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00:18:10 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] dorobouNeko updated pull request #7573: Fix #7561: Remove assumption between power and cost https://git.io/fjnyI
00:18:44 <peter1138> Nearly
00:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause> CI needs retriggering...
00:19:45 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] dorobouNeko commented on pull request #7573: Fix #7561: Remove assumption between power and cost https://git.io/fjcUd
00:21:29 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf... github decided to not let me post anymore?
00:21:49 <Eddi|zuHause> "You can't comment at this time — your comment At least one email address must be verified to do that." wtf does that even mean?
00:22:04 <peter1138> Probably something broke.
00:23:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not going to bother with github tonight then...
00:26:56 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] dorobouNeko updated pull request #7573: Fix #7561: Remove assumption between power and cost https://git.io/fjnyI
00:27:41 <peter1138> Well, it's trying now.
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02:35:21 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stale[bot] commented on issue #7311: Wrong determination of personal directory https://git.io/fjckT
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08:39:19 <andythenorth> moin
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09:58:03 <peter1138> Indeed, it is.
10:06:49 <LordAro> omg, where?
10:12:56 <peter1138> https://soundcloud.com/johnbroomhallmusic/sets/transport-tycoon-john-broomhall-track-excerpts
10:13:00 <peter1138> Yum
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10:14:19 <LordAro> peter1138: https://youtu.be/jSFsrmLhC00 full version
10:14:40 <peter1138> *nod*
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11:12:14 <Arveen> so, my office has to listen to this now
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11:18:34 <peter1138> Hmm, maybe I can close the window now.
11:18:56 <peter1138> Is it lunch time yet?
11:23:09 <andythenorth> yes
11:24:10 <Arveen> no
11:26:14 <andythenorth> flip articulated vehicles?
11:34:01 <Artea> hello
11:34:09 <Artea> I gave up
11:34:32 <Artea> every single day there is aircraft crashes
11:35:29 <Artea> year: 3932
11:40:23 <Artea> 10 aircrafts in 20
11:40:41 <Artea> damn disasters :/
11:43:07 <Artea> huhu
11:43:15 <Artea> another disaster
11:43:22 <Artea> this time wasn't mine
11:51:50 <Eddi|zuHause> you know you can disable crashes, right?
11:56:49 <Artea> I know
11:56:53 <Artea> I set to reduced one
11:57:25 <Artea> but didn't think would be like 10 crashes per day
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11:58:55 <LordAro> Artea: are you using large aircraft on small airports or something?
11:59:10 <Artea> no
11:59:18 <Artea> large aircraft in large airport
11:59:24 <LordAro> that said, 24 hours of gameplay...
11:59:36 <LordAro> most people don't get nearly that far ;)
11:59:50 <Artea> server has been on for a week or so
12:00:17 <Artea> I think is very hard to start now
12:00:17 <peter1138> What's that, 110 years of gameplay?
12:00:22 <peter1138> Er, gametime.
12:00:23 <Artea> lol
12:00:30 <Artea> try 1932 :P
12:00:34 <peter1138> No, I mean 24 hours.
12:00:47 <Artea> 100 years
12:00:59 <Artea> not think is 110
12:01:13 <peter1138> 10 crashes in 100 years, real life would like that statistic :p
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12:01:34 <Eddi|zuHause> a year is about 12 minutes, so 5 years an hour?
12:03:35 <Artea> 4,1 years
12:03:41 <Artea> if my math isn't wrong
12:04:28 <Artea> also
12:04:32 <Artea> max loan cap sux
12:04:40 <Artea> where can I commit that ?
12:05:09 <peter1138> Your math is wrong, or your computer is just slow.
12:05:43 <Artea> 818,100,000 euros max loan is to low
12:06:10 <Artea> is my brain that is slow
12:06:12 <peter1138> It's ~13.5 minutes per game year.
12:06:42 <peter1138> 4.4 years per hour.
12:06:59 <Artea> well
12:07:07 <Artea> normal was wrong
12:07:24 <Artea> I made like x = (100 * 1) / 24
12:07:36 <peter1138> 100 * 1 is hard.
12:07:53 <peter1138> Bah, mplayer keeps disconnecting from my stream :/
12:08:06 <Artea> I don't know the name of math method
12:08:08 <Artea> grrrr
12:09:27 <Artea> "rule of 3 simple"
12:09:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i always forget, is it 30ms per tick (=33fps), or 30 fps (=33ms per tick)?
12:09:36 <Artea> seriously don't know the damn name
12:10:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Dreisatz?
12:10:25 <peter1138> 30ms per tick.
12:10:46 <peter1138> But possibly meant to be ~
12:10:57 <peter1138> ~27ms per tick, leading to 2 seconds per game day, not 2.22.
12:11:27 <Eddi|zuHause> alledgedly...
12:11:46 <Eddi|zuHause> that rumor existed since i joined here, not sure anyone really ever investigated
12:19:25 <Artea> almost year 4000
12:20:34 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 1/(30/1000/3600/24*(74*365.2425))
12:20:34 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 106.556380813
12:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause> so closer to 110 than to 100
12:40:05 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kiwitreekor opened pull request #7575: Feature: Add industry production graph https://git.io/fjc3i
13:44:10 <Artea> year 3941
14:03:58 <Flygon> ...
14:04:06 <Flygon> There's a game called OTTTD in the Switch eShop.
14:04:13 <Flygon> No relation to OTTD. :V
14:35:14 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7575: Feature: Add industry production graph https://git.io/fjcGS
14:36:06 <andythenorth> ^ interesting
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14:37:33 <peter1138> Was it lunch?
14:37:35 <peter1138> I did eat.
14:39:01 <andythenorth> salad, mac + cheese
14:39:04 <andythenorth> very carolies
14:39:49 <peter1138> I had salad (~100), clementine (~35) and a nature valley bar (~100)
14:39:55 <peter1138> Poor carol
14:40:21 <peter1138> That was also breakfast, cos I was a massive pig at the weekend.
14:53:44 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7575: Feature: Add industry production graph https://git.io/fjcZ8
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15:05:12 <Samu> hi
15:18:19 <Artea> I had Portuguese Beam Stew
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15:28:41 <lpx> did it rematerialize properly?
15:29:10 <lpx> I would've had them beam over something more kinky, orion slave girl or something
15:29:59 <Arveen> FeelsKinkyMan
15:30:00 <lpx> well, whatever. There's no way (atm) to have a 'shade' bind, is there?
15:30:39 <peter1138> There's no concept of window focus.
15:30:54 <lpx> pity that
15:31:03 <lpx> I also can't seem to bind TAB or SPACE
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15:45:38 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ
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16:21:53 <Artea> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUXfd4xEqG0
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16:37:20 <peter1138> I... don't know that tune.
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16:38:01 <peter1138> But I've watched her before, she's good.
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16:50:05 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #7575: Feature: Add industry production graph https://git.io/fjcC0
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16:50:33 <spnda> ugh another bluescreen
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17:06:32 <Alberth> o/
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18:03:57 <Samu> restarting all Trans games, because it was updated
18:16:38 <andythenorth> hmm
18:16:48 <andythenorth> depot-flip for articulated vehicles? o_O
18:19:34 <Alberth> flip all depots upside-down!
18:30:49 <Samu> looks like new Trans version is worse
18:31:07 <Samu> having traded a win to SynTrans
18:32:34 <Samu> it's generally losing faster too
18:32:50 <Samu> opponents that used to win before, are now winning faster
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18:50:15 <andythenorth> hmm
18:50:20 <andythenorth> moar Horse wagons
18:53:26 <andythenorth> oof I hope GarryG is ok https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1221496#p1221496
18:53:30 <andythenorth> he has long-term health issues
18:57:31 <Samu> another loss, to teshinet
18:57:34 <Samu> poor Trans
18:58:04 <Samu> teshinet, the AI that crashes and wins unmanaged
18:58:10 <Samu> lucky AIs
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19:18:45 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone updated pull request #7497: Feature: Selective demolition tool. https://git.io/fjq82
19:22:04 <Eddi|zuHause> why did i get a 95% discount for some random warship game?
19:22:54 <glx> uboat ?
19:24:36 <glx> hmm should be a different one, I got only -20% for it
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19:44:03 <Wolf01> o/
19:45:01 <Wolf01> Meh, workers cut again the fiber cable, the entire zone without internet for half a day
19:51:36 <Wolf01> Also, FF is still disabling half of my extensions
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19:54:56 <Wolf01> o/
20:01:31 <Alberth> o/
20:01:49 <Alberth> nice, ff thing, it disabled literally all my extensions :p
20:02:11 <Alberth> and I only have 5 or so :p
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20:16:32 <Wolf01> Just open the extensions.json and reenable them
20:23:35 <Eddi|zuHause> just open about:config and disable signature checking?
20:23:52 <Wolf01> Already did that, doens't work
20:24:03 <Wolf01> Doesn't, also
20:28:42 <nielsm> did you install the 66.0.4 update which should fix it?
20:30:38 <Wolf01> No, I won't install any update
20:31:13 <Wolf01> I'm on 56.0.2
20:31:51 <nielsm> then switch to one of the forks
20:34:15 <Wolf01> I should go back to 52 LTS
20:34:27 <spnda> I'm still happily using Chrome
20:34:57 <Wolf01> Which is the worst shit in the world after IE 6
20:35:56 <spnda> Chrome is faster than Firefox
20:37:32 <Wolf01> I'm not looking to fastest, I'm looking to features and being able to browse the web as I want, without autosuggest and autofill which break every single web app
20:39:21 <nielsm> using chrome is acceptance of google as your corporate overlord and big brother, no thanks
20:41:57 <milek7_> https://storage.googleapis.com/moz-fx-normandy-prod-addons/extensions/hotfix-update-xpi-intermediate@mozilla.com-1.0.2-signed.xpi
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20:42:15 <milek7_> this worked for me for fixing firefox on android
20:43:07 <milek7_> why you're still using 56?
20:43:51 <Wolf01> Extensions
20:44:00 <Wolf01> And RSS
20:56:38 <nielsm> https://www.waterfox.net/
20:56:41 <nielsm> https://www.palemoon.org/
20:56:51 <nielsm> just don't use old versions please
20:59:54 <rubenwardy> all of my extensions still worked in quantum :shrug:
21:04:03 <Eddi|zuHause> strange, for me setting "xpinstall.signatures.required" to "false" worked fine
21:04:27 <nielsm> Eddi|zuHause: then either you're running an ancient version or a non-"standard" version
21:04:45 <Eddi|zuHause> says 60.6.2esr
21:05:23 <Eddi|zuHause> (opensuse)
21:05:45 <nielsm> ah, ESR also counts as "non-standard"
21:09:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not even sure what exactly that means
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21:11:20 <nielsm> basically, that setting is only ignored on the main release branch but is honoured on "unbranded", "developer", and ESR versions
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21:19:21 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #7424: Add: Kdtree for AirportGetNearestTown https://git.io/fjcEg
21:25:45 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #7424: Add: Kdtree for AirportGetNearestTown https://git.io/fjU1d
21:25:52 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stale[bot] commented on pull request #7475: Fix #6618: Viewport vehicle draw flickering https://git.io/fjcEo
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21:57:59 <nielsm> https://steamcommunity.com/games/797400/announcements/ Railroad Corporation looks like it might be good
22:03:41 <dwfreed> I have railroad tycoon 2 somewhere, might even own it on a digital platform now
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22:50:59 <andythenorth> hmm
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22:57:20 <andythenorth> moar wagons
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23:25:01 <Eddi|zuHause> ... i feel so alone in the fight against newgrf_developer_tools
23:25:28 <andythenorth> I gave up :P
23:29:13 <Eddi|zuHause> we could add an autoreplace rule, like for "WITH!!"
23:32:25 <andythenorth> hmm
23:32:34 <andythenorth> I have lost all restraint in Horse
23:32:40 <andythenorth> this will be regrettable