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09:43:23 <andythenorth> moin
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09:47:22 <Wolf01> o/
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10:28:05 <andythenorth> such pixels
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11:42:02 <andythenorth> hmm
11:42:04 <andythenorth> oops
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12:06:02 <nielsm> famous last words
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12:40:35 <andythenorth> is there any rationale to have a wagon with no CC pixels?
12:40:56 <andythenorth> original baseset wood wagon does it
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13:07:45 <frosch123> maybe your coal wagons are covered in coal
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13:22:34 <andythenorth> I crow-barred some CC pixels in
13:22:37 <andythenorth> kind of works
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13:50:46 <andythenorth> 73% :P
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13:53:09 <LordAro> APTX|: fix yo connection
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14:17:12 <frosch123> wasn't it 80% yesterday?
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14:52:04 <andythenorth> it was 80%, then it was 67% or something
14:52:13 <andythenorth> $reasons :P
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14:59:16 <Wolf01> So it's really that my 3 different routers, one never used, which don't work, while the one of the company works flawlessly
15:06:00 <andythenorth> :o
15:06:44 <andythenorth> anyway, I made the Edibles Tankers quite toylandy http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#edibles_tank_car_pony_gen_2A
15:06:49 <andythenorth> I like them :P
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15:33:16 <stefino> hi, is patching really so easy like 4th post in this topic? https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=21678 I downloaded source, Tortoise but no result :D
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15:43:33 <Wolf01> Interesting, if I restrict the DHCP range and configure my pc with a static IP out of the range I can't access internet anymore
15:44:27 <Wolf01> I need to set the DHCP range to the full range and set the clients as static IP from the router itself
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15:47:29 <stefino> I downloaded source from GIT and whe I try to patch this "folder" it says that it isnt a working copy. Where is the problem?
15:48:38 <LordAro> stefino: how did you download the source?
15:49:39 <stefino> manualy from git web page ...is it the problem?
15:49:47 <LordAro> yup
15:50:11 <LordAro> you need to download it with git itself, be that through tortoisegit, git cmdline, or some other client
15:50:35 <stefino> oh okay...I try it again
15:53:25 <stefino> Unable to download...Server https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD.git doesnt support HTTP/DAV protocol O.o
15:54:43 <stefino> I'm using Checkout with SVN
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15:55:31 <LordAro> well no, because it's git, not svn
15:55:43 <LordAro> svn is old, OTTD migrated away from it at the beginning of this year
15:56:01 <LordAro> (hence why all the documentation you're finding doesn't work)
15:56:21 <stefino> yes yes I read it but it says Use Git or checkout with SVN using the web URL...so I thought that I can use SVN too
15:56:49 <LordAro> yes, that was the case until the switch happened
15:56:54 <stefino> SO I need to download Tortoise Git?
15:57:01 <LordAro> probably
15:59:45 <Wolf01> Git should be able to provide the repository to svn too, if that doesn't work maybe there is some other problem
16:06:04 <stefino> downloading due Tortoise GIt works
16:06:30 <stefino> first good news :D
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16:11:47 <stefino> so I have a folder hat I made OTTD_Source and in this folder I have new downloaded folder Open TTD with downloaded source . What I have to do now? :/
16:14:59 <stefino> tried right click on the diff, Apply patch serial - select folder, press Apply and it write to me that "Patch format detection failed."
16:15:54 <nielsm> first make sure you can compile the non-patched source code to a working executable
16:16:51 <stefino> I think this is "clean" official version or not? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD
16:17:03 <nielsm> yes that's the current master version
16:17:41 <stefino> okay...compile..this is the next what what I have no idea how to do it atm. :D
16:18:18 <nielsm> windows, mac, linux?
16:18:23 <stefino> win
16:18:34 <nielsm> okay, get visual studio 2017 express from microsoft
16:18:39 <nielsm> uh not express
16:18:41 <nielsm> community
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16:19:21 <nielsm> (if you don't have it already... just be aware that it's a rather large download and probably takes about 30-60 minutes to install)
16:20:33 <stefino> no I dont have it
16:22:14 <stefino> so give me some time to install it :)
16:23:12 <andythenorth> 74% :P
16:23:58 <nielsm> andythenorth, stop measuring completion rate and then suddenly you might have broken the wall, it's the safest way to proceed
16:24:13 <andythenorth> it's measured on every compile :P
16:24:25 <stefino> nielsm: I need only basic editor? +- 620MB to download?
16:24:28 <andythenorth> I don't usually believe in % complete, it's a myth for $reasons
16:25:56 <stefino> there is a window with a lot of component or functions what I can download if I fill checkboxes
16:26:14 <nielsm> stefino you need the C++ compiler and features to build (classic) Desktop applications
16:28:37 <stefino> 6,5GB...relly? :D
16:29:16 <nielsm> yep it's pretty big
16:32:51 <stefino> it is better to make only new grfs :D :D this looks like hardcore. but we like to play with roadtypes and another features from patches
16:41:32 <andythenorth> roadtypes is currently broken
16:41:46 <andythenorth> you won't be able to use it with recent OpenTTD master
16:41:58 <stefino> oh no :/
16:42:09 <andythenorth> :|
16:42:10 <Wolf01> My fault
16:42:24 <andythenorth> potato potato
16:42:29 <andythenorth> it's been cleaned up ready for merge twice
16:42:40 <andythenorth> and had two reviews
16:42:59 <andythenorth> there's no point keep banging head on same problem for no result
16:43:17 * andythenorth decided to do stuff that actually can be shipped
16:43:47 <stefino> and where is the problem with roadtypes or trolley buses in the game? It looks like it is almost done
16:44:04 <andythenorth> it's incompatible with current master
16:46:05 <stefino> and will be compatible in the future or is it dead project?
16:46:07 <nielsm> in other words, it will take a lot of re-jiggering to make work again
16:46:17 <nielsm> someone will have to put in the work
16:47:21 <nielsm> as far as I know, it's not that there are anything fundamentally different, it's just a lot of little things that are no longer quite the same, so to get the same effect you'll need to make slightly different changes
16:47:52 <stefino> :/ mmm...my patch-elan dissapears :D
16:50:01 <andythenorth> last update to NRT pull request was Jul 20th
16:50:19 <andythenorth> so give it until Jan 20th, then it's dead
16:50:38 <andythenorth> 6 months is 'enough'
16:51:51 <stefino> okay :)
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16:56:59 <stefino> nielsm: I think that visual studio is ready :)
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17:00:40 <nielsm> okay now the annoying part, setting up the build environment
17:01:53 <stefino> done
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