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00:18:40 <Samu> Who's Charles Pigott? is it LordAro ?
00:19:23 <Samu> github sending me notifications to my email :(
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00:56:33 <LordAro> Samu: ono
00:56:42 <LordAro> you have discovered my secret identity
00:56:58 <LordAro> (there are various settings for email notifications)
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07:54:48 <andythenorth> moin
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10:27:55 <andythenorth> oof
10:28:02 <andythenorth> the stupid things I do for easter eggs :)
10:28:05 <andythenorth> in Horse
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10:53:06 <Wolf01> o/
10:59:07 <andythenorth> o
10:59:09 <andythenorth> yo
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11:59:37 <Wolf01> Mmmh in Factorio I wonder if there's a way to tell in a blueprint what goes on a belt
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12:30:46 <andythenorth> Wolf01: minis https://www.flickr.com/photos/andythenorth
12:31:41 <Wolf01> Child#1?
12:32:26 <andythenorth> me
12:32:31 <Wolf01> :D
12:32:34 <andythenorth> for child #2
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12:34:54 <andythenorth> bbl
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12:40:38 <Samu_> what is the plane speed factor for WAS?
12:40:42 <Samu_> the recommended
12:43:45 <Samu_> I assumed 1/4
12:44:15 <Samu_> av8 recommends 1/1
12:44:25 <Samu_> vanilla are 1/4
12:44:31 <Samu_> are there other aircraft sets?
12:44:50 <Samu_> ST2: do you know?
12:48:22 <Samu_> jesus, the cost of some was aircraft is overly prohibitive
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13:09:03 <Samu_> how can an aircraft with 100% reliability break down?
13:09:22 <Samu_> speaking of which, why doesn't reliability decay?
13:09:32 <Samu_> there's something wrong with this newgrf
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13:12:41 <Samu_> it decayed abruptly to 80% in 1 step
13:12:54 <Samu_> 100% to 80%
13:13:03 <Samu_> something's fishy
13:18:53 <Samu_> I don't think I can trust World Airliners Set as a reliable NewGRF
13:19:06 <Samu_> models expire the same year they're released
13:19:19 <Samu_> weird stuff
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14:29:16 <Samu_> my AI reached 5000 aircraft for the first time
14:29:22 <Samu_> success!
14:30:32 <Samu_> https://imgur.com/S8Y7T0W
14:30:47 <Samu_> can't get him to get 5000 road vehicles though :(
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16:11:45 <Samu_> it's funny
16:12:24 <Samu_> why do I always find problems and bugs after uploading
16:12:34 <LordAro> that's quite common :)
17:04:48 <Samu_> crashes when there are no bus models available at all
17:04:54 <Samu_> working on a fix
17:05:05 <Samu_> should also crash for mail trucks
17:06:04 <Samu_> ai wasn't smart enough, started construction of a road route without any bus model available, waste of money and effort
17:09:16 <Samu_> the articulated code could be improved
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17:09:47 <Samu_> build drivethrough only if there's only articulated engines
17:09:58 <Samu_> something like that
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18:49:22 <Samu_> found typo
18:49:24 <Samu_> https://noai.openttd.org/api/trunk/classAIRoad.html#9150ac89121ae1ca4778eb13ac7995c7
18:49:36 <Samu_> Precondition: IsRoadTypeAvailable(railtype)
18:49:41 <Samu_> railtype?
19:05:48 <Samu_> it really should be possible to know refit prices beforehand :(
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19:09:30 <LordAro> Samu_: documentation typo, i bet
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19:12:49 <Samu_> i'm trying to estimate a road cost
19:12:56 <Samu_> the entire route
19:13:06 <Samu_> with at least 2 road vehicles
19:13:16 <nielsm> oh cool, a full replica of the first locomotive in denmark was unveiled today: http://www.jernbanen.dk/forum/index.php?id=132814
19:13:18 <Samu_> but I can't find a way to get refit costs
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19:42:12 <andythenorth> moin
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20:19:59 <Samu_> very funny stuff... found a bug in wrightai
20:20:16 <Samu_> getting cargo production of passengers wasn't working as i intended
20:20:35 <Samu_> should be getting 70 for passengers, 18 for mail
20:20:41 <Samu_> turns out it was always using 18
20:21:12 <Samu_> the funny thing is that now that I made it work correctly, 70 is a too high number and no airports are built
20:21:18 <Samu_> lel
20:22:12 <andythenorth> stupidity https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9107/easter_horse.png
20:22:29 <andythenorth> the hoppers swap from grey to brown if flipped
20:22:32 <andythenorth> the CC is random
20:22:52 <andythenorth> BAD EASTER EGGS
20:23:36 <Samu_> the engine is reversed?
20:23:59 <Samu_> train 107
20:25:51 <andythenorth> engines are reversible
20:25:55 <andythenorth> sometimes
21:00:11 <Samu_> AIList.SORT_DESCENDING is true or false?
21:02:56 <Samu_> doesn't make sense
21:04:00 <Samu_> https://imgur.com/9QLFLaQ look at the airport at Marningwell Valley
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21:04:06 <Samu_> production at that tile is 0
21:04:21 <Samu_> i used SORT_DESCENDING
21:04:38 <Samu_> why then it builds at 0?
21:05:46 <Samu_> testing SORT_ASCENDING brb
21:07:48 <Samu_> SORT_DESCENDING was correct
21:07:56 <Samu_> must be something else
21:09:18 <Samu_> oh right... the is_friendly is influencing
21:09:22 <Samu_> dumb me
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22:52:31 <Samu_> how do I get the passenger + mail capacity of an aircraft?
22:52:50 <Samu_> my estimator only retrieves passenger portion
22:52:59 <Samu_> miscalculates viable aircraft
22:53:05 <Samu_> into unviable
22:53:26 <Samu_> because... reasons?
23:04:12 <nielsm> looks like that's not possible
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23:13:32 <Samu_> perhaps there is a way
23:13:43 <Samu_> a lame workaround
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23:18:52 <Samu_> oh crap, newgrf's getting in the way
23:18:55 <Samu_> there isn't
23:38:08 <Samu_> it sucks that there is no way to get the refit cost of an aircraft
23:38:17 <Samu_> have to use clone
23:38:25 <Samu_> that would require me having an aircraft already
23:38:36 <Samu_> already refited
23:41:49 <Wormnest> Can´t you use test mode
23:43:06 <Samu_> yes, but i need to have the aircraft bought
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23:43:39 <Samu_> aircraft costs 50000, refitting to mail costs 6000
23:43:59 <Samu_> i wanna estimate the cost of building an aircraft refitted to mail
23:44:12 <Samu_> can't do it, without buying the aircraft first
23:45:03 <Samu_> there is a way with clone vehicle, but requires me to have the same model of aircraft already refitted
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23:45:53 <Samu_> if I am doing this for the first route/engine, i'm screwed
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23:47:05 <Wormnest> Just make a rough guess until you know the real costs
23:47:44 <Samu_> inflation ruins the cost estimators
23:47:47 <Samu_> :(
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23:57:52 <Samu_> i'm gonna change the unprofitable rules a bi
23:57:53 <Samu_> t