IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2018-08-16
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13:21:44 <stefino> hi, has OTTD any limit of sprites? number of sprites in all newgrf files
13:31:34 <Eddi|zuHause> limitation disturbs me very sprites
13:35:47 <peter1138> goes it throw out limitation?
13:37:33 <stefino> i read something that there is a limit +-65k
13:37:55 <peter1138> It's around 16.7 million. There is a limit, but you won't reach it.
13:37:56 <Eddi|zuHause> no, that was increased
13:38:13 <Eddi|zuHause> like 10 years ago
13:39:36 <stefino> oh...so this is ok :D that's good to know. I was scared caue due long vehicles we have really a lot of sprites.
13:44:37 <stefino> but on the other hand, big grf files make the game more laggy or not? It is due multiplayer maybe but when we built big infrastructure, it was laggy when zoom out the map. Is it general problem of big 32bpp graphics sets?
13:46:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a general problem of how zoom out works
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17:32:26 <Samu> is there anything you can do about "excessive CPU usage in valuator function"?
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18:01:47 <Samu> there is a Valuate inside a Valuate, is this what causes excessive cpu usage?
18:04:50 <Samu> tileList.Valuate(Utils.valuateTruckStopTile, cargoClass, stationId);
18:05:46 <Samu> and inside valuate truck stop tile there is: cargoList.Valuate(AICargo.HasCargoClass, cargoClass);
18:07:50 <Samu> Looking at LuDiAI source code
18:13:51 <acklen> cargoList is probably pretty small though? tileList may be huge
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18:22:45 <Samu> It adds rectangles to rectangles?
18:23:02 <Samu> that's confusing, I better give up
18:23:36 <LordAro> Samu: it's defining an area of tiles to search
18:24:04 <LordAro> if it decides to define an overly large area (could be that a coordinate is mismatched or something), that could take a long time to search through
18:25:38 <Samu> the town it was working on, was a big one, already serviced with a bus stop and with an airport, it crashed evaluating here
18:27:18 <Samu> the evaluation should return 0, meaning it was already serviced
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18:39:06 <Samu> strange that I'm not getting it to crash
18:39:30 <acklen> perhaps you should reduce the amounts of valuations in valuateTruckStopTile()
18:39:37 <Samu> it was the first time I had a excessive CPU usage on LuDiAI
18:39:47 <acklen> the cargoList could be created once and then passed in
18:40:15 <acklen> other valuations like AITile.IsBuildable, etc could reduce the tile set as well
18:40:26 <acklen> then pass the reduced array to valuateTruckStopTile()
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19:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm screwing up my system now, was nice knowing you guys...
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19:53:51 <Samu> I think I found the issue
19:54:23 <Samu> local rectangleCoordinates = estimateTownRectangle(town);
19:54:56 <Samu> this creates a rectangle consisting of tiles where the town has influence
19:55:07 <Samu> if the town is too large
19:55:23 <Samu> it will be valuating all those tiles
19:57:24 <Samu> i got to retry this AI with very large towns, and hope it crashes early
19:57:30 <LordAro> still, i wouldn't expect that to go over the cpu limit
19:57:38 <LordAro> unless it's doing something expensive inside
20:01:32 <Samu> right on the first service
20:03:23 <Samu> town was sized like that
20:03:53 <LordAro> guess you need to check what that valuator function is doing
20:04:19 <LordAro> unless you've fiddled with the AI execution count
20:04:24 <LordAro> i seem to recall you doing that?
20:04:46 <LordAro> i mean the config setting
20:04:51 <LordAro> can't remember what it's actually called
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20:06:08 <LordAro> mm, that's the default
20:06:59 <Samu> tileList.Valuate(Utils.valuateTruckStopTile, cargoClass, stationId);
20:07:33 <Samu> gonna try edit the code a bit
20:09:02 <Samu> the tileList at this point is a giant rectangle
20:09:28 <Samu> given by that estimation
20:09:34 <Samu> local rectangleCoordinates = estimateTownRectangle(town);
20:21:36 <Samu> it is valuating 1600 tiles
20:23:20 <acklen> is that just the count of tileList?
20:23:24 <Wormnest> Looks like it wants to do too much inside the Valuator. Valuators should be short functions
20:23:42 <Samu> tileList contains 1600 tiles
20:25:07 <Wormnest> yes, which has another for loop in it and another valuator
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20:52:27 <Samu> i got a crash in CargoList now
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21:14:30 <Samu> if I use break inside 2 for cycles, does it break only the last for cycle? or breaks all fors?
21:20:01 <LordAro> only breaks the inner most
22:00:56 <Samu> how do I square a number in code?
22:03:51 <Samu> oh, i would have to use a variable to store the first result :(
22:04:34 <Samu> I want to ^2 here local areasize = (AIMap.GetTileX(rectangleCoordinates[1]) - AIMap.GetTileX(rectangleCoordinates[0]) + 1);
22:05:19 <Samu> areasize = areasize * areasize;
22:09:35 <Samu> local areasize = (AIMap.GetTileX(rectangleCoordinates[1]) - AIMap.GetTileX(rectangleCoordinates[0]) + 1); areasize = areasize * areasize; AILog.Info("Estimated " + AITown.GetName(town) + " area: " + areasize + " tiles [(" + AIMap.GetTileX(rectangleCoordinates[0]) + "," + AIMap.GetTileY(rectangleCoordinates[0]) + ") - (" + AIMap.GetTileX(rectangleCoordinates[1]) + "," + AIMap.GetTileY(rectangleCoordinates[1]) + ")]");
22:26:18 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone familiar with hwmon/fancontrol stuff?
22:26:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i have 3 fans connected to my mainboard, and hwmon provides me with 3 pwm controls
22:26:45 <Eddi|zuHause> but they don't match up
22:27:00 <Samu> guess it's not the same program
22:27:06 <Eddi|zuHause> fan1 seems to be controlled by both pwm1 and pwm3, and fan3 is unaffected by everything
22:27:49 <Eddi|zuHause> is that a driver fail? or a bios fail? or what?
22:29:29 <Eddi|zuHause> that fan running at constant speed is driving me nuts
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