IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2018-07-05
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00:50:42 <argoneus> also good evening train friends
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08:18:57 <andythenorth> 105 horses drawn
09:01:25 <andythenorth> I should do a web feed :P
09:13:45 <Eddi|zuHause> isironhorsedoneyet.com?
09:16:16 <andythenorth> somebody registered it already :(
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15:22:40 <supermop_work> no ac in the office
15:26:25 <peter1138> Just a couple of fans here.
15:26:35 <peter1138> It's not unbearable.
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15:30:29 <supermop_work> ive been working from home most of the past week but today i need to do some welding so have to be in to use the shop
15:32:19 <planetmaker> this reads here like "other places, identical problems" :P Hi :)
15:33:08 * andythenorth should stop playing Tanks eh
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16:36:30 <Eddi|zuHause> "● Fixed: Animated citizens on Piggy train periodically are missing cloth textures" <-- so they had naked people in the park in C:S?
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17:14:33 <Eddi|zuHause> how does steam think "Goat Simulator" is similar to "Kerbal Space Program" and "Transport Fever"?
17:17:49 <andythenorth> 'games people play'?
17:17:56 <andythenorth> or just "it's a game"
17:24:37 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i now have collected a cart full of games worth 50€ over the course of this sale, but do i really want to purchase them in the next hour before the sale ends?
17:25:52 <andythenorth> I rarely regret not purchasing something
17:26:02 <andythenorth> I sometimes regret purchasing something
17:26:52 <Eddi|zuHause> but if you multiply that with the probability, what is the expected value of regret?
17:27:17 <andythenorth> how many games is it?
17:28:07 <Eddi|zuHause> a pack of expansions for Cities Skylines, Two adventure/story games, and a few mini-puzzle games
17:28:36 <Eddi|zuHause> each of these blocks makes about 1/3 of the total price
17:29:14 <andythenorth> you'll probably regret in equal measure
17:30:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i thoroughly enjoyed the last two adventure games i purchased, the deponia series and thimbleweed park (although the latter laid there around a year between purchasing and playing it)
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19:08:03 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, simutrans is on steam?
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19:20:12 <planetmaker> I wonder whether OpenTTD should go there, too. If it weren't for the extra legal hassle
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21:27:21 <masse> I have a late-game going on and distrib mode has stopped well .. distributing
21:28:35 <masse> distribution mode for passengers is 'asymmetric'
21:34:22 <masse> All of the passengers are 'from this station via any station to any station'
21:34:37 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, yes, but it's still horrible to play.
21:35:05 <peter1138> The configuration makes our settings system seem reasonable.
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21:46:52 <masse> I have tried setting dist mode to manual and back to asymmetric
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21:53:10 <nielsm> masse, I don't know if anyone who actually understands the link graph stuff is around, but it'd probably help if you could share your savegame
21:55:23 <masse> Uhm, sure, how do you share ~6M files nowadays?
21:55:26 <andythenorth> is it bikes peter1138 ? o_O
21:57:05 <nielsm> I think github does allow attaching files that large, so maybe report this as a bug (because it might be)
21:58:47 <nielsm> I'll try taking a look at it in a bit
22:06:52 <nielsm> hmm I wonder if it has to do with the star structure of your route?
22:07:14 <nielsm> i.e. that it visits the same station multiple times
22:08:14 <masse> Really? I've been using it a lot
22:08:38 <nielsm> as soon as I removed e.g. Marnwell East from repeating on a schedule it got a sensible link graph
22:08:39 <masse> Unless it's something like it's steadily been worse and worse until I hit the limit just now
22:09:04 <nielsm> or maybe it was just the fact that I changed any route at all
22:10:02 <nielsm> hm no it does seem to dislike that pattern
22:11:18 <masse> Damn. It's been working until now.
22:13:28 <nielsm> but it's probably a bug
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22:18:35 <masse> "Please don't report issues with games where you changed NewGRFs." I have a lot of newgrfs, I'll play this game as is and then try a more vanilla approach
22:28:12 <masse> Now it works again? I added a link to a main train line and had 'transfer' set for a while
22:29:00 <masse> at least the 'marnwell east' star is
22:32:38 <nielsm> it's probably worth investigating if the link graph code has trouble with star topographies :)
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23:08:04 <masse> Maybe the links just got overwhelmed? I removed some AIs and maybe it's now working better
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