IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2018-02-15
            
00:09:56 <Samu> ST2: still busy?
00:13:41 <Samu> https://imgur.com/H8vsBwT
00:14:13 <Samu> which colours would go well into that global list?
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00:15:25 <Samu> btw, an AI won the game
00:15:28 <Samu> sad
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00:30:35 <ST2> sorry Samu, yes, kinda busy yet
00:30:42 <ST2> with our #00
00:30:47 <ST2> it's a nightmare :S
00:31:48 <Samu> oki
00:32:15 <Samu> i feel like sending this to bananas, seems ready
00:32:33 <Samu> besides, i'm not getting much feedback :(
00:32:51 <ST2> now that you're making a CV GS, I'm making a sandbox server xD
00:33:10 <ST2> with no goals
00:33:31 <ST2> and no newgrf's, if that matter ^^
00:33:33 <Samu> there is a goal mode that only ranks companies
00:33:38 <Samu> no goal
00:33:52 <Samu> only sorts them by value, with the most valuable always at 100%
00:34:09 <ST2> yup
00:34:28 <ST2> most value (measure of CV and perf.)
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00:34:37 <ST2> at least the one I'm working on
00:35:09 <Samu> oh you're also working on one
00:35:41 <ST2> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2z6a8s2r9ykf7ha/Screenshot%202018-02-14%2023.35.16.png?dl=0
00:35:43 <Samu> will it be available on bananas?
00:35:57 <ST2> doesn't use GS
00:36:03 <ST2> it's pure xShunter
00:38:11 <Samu> I'm thinking of changing the amount of debug messages my GS is showing
00:38:23 <Samu> it's insane atm
00:38:54 <ST2> add debug levels
00:39:21 <Samu> every other tick, it shows about 2 pages full of text
00:39:51 <Samu> yes, debug levels, good idea
00:41:45 <Samu> it's been a long time I've uploaded anything to bananas, i forgot what to do
00:42:21 <Samu> it needs 4 unique characters or something, but not sure where I read that
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01:57:59 <Samu> where do i find older openttd versions? forgot
01:58:04 <Samu> like 1.2.0
02:12:42 <Samu> is this page supposed to be empty? http://uk.binaries.openttd.org/index.html
02:16:13 <glx> try http://uk.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/
02:18:06 <Samu> ah nice, thx
02:19:14 <Samu> it only got 1.7.2?
02:31:52 <ST2> Samu... sec
02:32:39 <ST2> on the link to download Stable: https://binaries.openttd.org/releases/1.7.2/openttd-1.7.2-windows-win64.exe
02:32:49 <ST2> remove the unecessary things
02:32:57 <ST2> and https://binaries.openttd.org/releases/
02:33:14 <ST2> tada xD
02:33:44 <ST2> did it worked?
02:34:02 <Samu> http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/openttd/binaries/releases/index.html
02:34:07 <Samu> nice, it went to here
02:34:27 <ST2> it can goes to several places
02:34:37 <ST2> I only told you the way to get them ^^
02:39:08 <Samu> ok, the minimum API version for my GS appears to be 1.4
02:39:13 <Samu> OpenTTD 1.4.0
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02:40:22 <ST2> that's why compat_#.#.nut files exist ^^
02:41:43 <Samu> that's not how it works
02:42:07 <Samu> openttd 1.4 added GSGoal::SetProgress
02:42:08 <ST2> if you say so
02:42:27 <Samu> can't set the GS to API 1.2
02:42:48 <Samu> on openttd 1.2 the GS will crash
02:42:53 <ST2> why you need that?
02:43:47 <Samu> gotta go, take care
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02:44:07 <ST2> a propper answer, thank you xD
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12:39:50 <Samu> hi
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12:45:45 <Wolf01> o/
12:52:09 <__ln__> the daily wolf
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13:09:22 <Samu> hey
13:09:41 <Samu> https://bananas.openttd.org/en/manager/new doesn't let me select versions past 1.6
13:10:20 <LordAro> they have to be added manually, iirc
13:10:38 <Samu> what kind of file do I upload? a .zip?
13:10:41 <Samu> a .tar?
13:10:46 <LordAro> tar
13:10:53 <Samu> ok
13:14:33 <Samu> oh, i gotta select a license, I got no idea
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13:15:41 <LordAro> https://choosealicense.com
13:19:04 <Samu> lol, that's even more confusing
13:21:17 <Samu> screw it, I'm not uploading
13:21:39 <Samu> i have no idea wtf are licenses for
13:21:51 <Samu> don't know what to chose
13:22:59 <LordAro> licenses determine how other people can use your source code
13:24:36 <LordAro> the same follows for any code you've copied from elsewhereoften you have to acknowledge where it's come from and use the same (or similar) licence
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13:26:53 <Samu> why do I have to chose a license file
13:27:04 <Samu> i have the thing ready to upload
13:27:24 <Samu> just wanted to upload it
13:27:42 <Samu> don't care about license files
13:28:01 <LordAro> pick one then
13:28:49 <ST2> flip a coin :P
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14:08:01 <Wolf01> https://youtu.be/51leE1rwS20 ahahahahah this one killed me
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14:28:02 <Samu> i need a readme.txt
14:28:16 <Samu> optionally, but will create one anyway
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15:50:42 <Samu> all that is missing is a license
15:50:46 <Samu> do be do
15:50:56 <Samu> gonna check which license I picked previously
15:51:04 <Samu> for my newgrfs
15:52:32 <Samu> CC-0 v1.0
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16:10:14 <Samu> uploaded
16:10:17 <Samu> le me check if it's there
16:20:48 <Samu> ok, now waiting for testers
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16:40:27 <Samu> check out the new text colours https://imgur.com/zkYhpXo
16:40:36 <Samu> do like, moar visible
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17:07:25 <Samu> ST2: https://imgur.com/nTOIG3U
17:07:36 <Samu> rip btpro
17:08:10 <Samu> also, your server names are too big, it doesn't fit
17:08:23 <Samu> long*
17:08:45 <ST2> http://openttd.btpro.nl/index.php/forum/7-general-openttd-talk/3006-find-missing-content-newgrf-s
17:08:55 <ST2> maybe an image tutorial will help you :P
17:09:22 <Samu> i don't like newgrfs
17:09:50 <ST2> I don't like rice but I don't bother people that eats it
17:10:03 <Samu> only 3 servers i can join :(
17:10:05 <Samu> keks
17:15:55 <Samu> when will the sandbox be ready? will i be able to join it, or will you newgrf it?
17:17:16 <Samu> also, that map size is a bit toooooooo big
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17:31:52 <Samu> hi wormnest
17:32:24 <Wormnest> hi Samu
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17:35:00 <Samu> i was recently experimenting with NoAI and I came across the issue of pathfinder becoming bridge friendly
17:35:29 <Samu> it's the pathfinder penaly of building a bridge tile
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17:36:09 <Samu> wormai uses the same library?
17:36:17 <Samu> rail.pathfinder something v1?
17:38:14 <Samu> i really should extract wormai.tar file
17:38:19 <Samu> and look at it myself :p
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17:43:57 <Samu> i think this is it
17:43:59 <Samu> this._cost_bridge_per_tile = 150;
17:44:28 <Samu> this cost has to be higher than this._cost_tile + this._cost_slope = 100;
17:44:42 <Samu> 150 > 100 + 100
17:44:51 <Samu> else the pathfinder goes bridge happy
17:45:17 <Samu> at least that was my observations when i tampered with those values
17:46:17 <Samu> Wormnest:
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18:50:23 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: but he didn't even mention Nürnberg. note how there is no "m" in "Nürnberg"
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18:51:03 <Wolf01> Ahahah my entire life is a lie XD
18:51:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no clue how that one even developed
18:53:05 <Wolf01> In italian there is the rule to always put a "m" before "b" or "p", never a "n"
18:53:41 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: now you explain to me how to say "Venedig" :p
18:54:10 <Wolf01> It's easy: v-e-n-e-z-i-a
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18:55:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i played eu4 as venice once. was fun trying to screw the mameluks out of their possession of alexandria and suez, then dominate the india trade
18:57:16 <Wormnest> Samu: I think I use an adapted version but I am aware that I should have a look at the bridge costs when I have more time
18:59:54 <Wolf01> Eddi: I will always remember when a german asked us for indications for "Trevisio"... after asking if it was A) Treviso, B) Tarvisio, C) Travesio, we choose a random direction
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19:01:57 <Wolf01> Quak
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19:03:24 <frosch123> moi
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19:38:27 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: i've only heard of A
19:39:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: also, all paths lead to rome anyway... :p
19:40:56 <Wolf01> :)
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19:52:26 <andythenorth> o/
19:53:38 <supermop_work> YO
19:55:45 <andythenorth> SUSHI
19:55:50 <Wolf01> o/
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20:14:28 <Eddi|zuHause> don't put sushi anywhere near the cat
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20:58:54 <andythenorth> suchi
21:21:49 <__ln__> http://www.airliners.net/photo/British-Airways/Boeing-777-236-ER/4844419/L
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23:42:13 <bob123> hello
23:43:51 <bob123> i dont have the + behind the passengers waiting list like in https://wiki.openttd.org/Passenger_and_cargo_destinations
23:43:58 <bob123> what do i wrong?
23:45:54 <Wolf01> Did you enable cargo destinations (symmetric or asymmetric)? If you just enabled it you might need to wait a bit to let the cargo to update
23:49:39 <bob123> okay - this was the error
23:50:18 <bob123> if i don't set this to sym or asym the passengers just leave at the next station?
23:52:23 <Wolf01> Those are the ones which enable the system
23:52:42 <bob123> i see thank you :)
23:54:24 <Wolf01> BTW, use this as reference: https://wiki.openttd.org/Passenger_and_cargo_distribution
23:56:11 <bob123> ahh way better this is helping me a lot! thanks for your time!
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23:58:28 <Wolf01> 'night
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