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00:26:11 <Wolf01> Ok, for today I give up at the emergency office
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00:37:46 <Eddi|zuHause> oh i found the trick there pretty quickly, but i got lucky i guess
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00:50:43 <Eddi|zuHause> dangit, i think i missed an achievement option there
00:50:55 <Eddi|zuHause> in the post office
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01:10:24 <glx> this game is full of stupid achievements ;)
01:13:07 <glx> I just got 66/105 on my first run (without walktrough, except when blocked)
01:15:31 <Wolf01> I used a walkthrough once only on the 3rd episode because it was really weird
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08:13:21 <andythenorth> o/
08:14:05 <V453000> yo
08:14:34 <andythenorth> it’s morning as AF again
08:14:50 <andythenorth> this seems to happen every fricking day
08:15:40 <V453000> :D
08:15:45 <V453000> me is working afternoon today
08:15:53 <V453000> so geometrees right now
08:18:02 * andythenorth should FIRS or something
08:18:08 <andythenorth> nagh
08:18:42 <V453000> I'm considering if I actually really want to do the tropic trees before the release
08:18:49 <V453000> because it's another shitload
08:19:27 <andythenorth> is 0.x release?
08:19:48 <V453000> is
08:19:59 <andythenorth> no tropic
08:20:15 <V453000> we'll see
08:20:25 <V453000> if I manage to finish temperate today including materials, then there is chance
08:20:50 <V453000> the idea of not having to revisit trees is very appealing
08:20:58 <V453000> but at the same time it's just bonkers much
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11:49:50 <andythenorth> cat
12:38:25 <peter1138> well
12:40:09 <andythenorth> rope
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13:00:47 <V453000> rendering temperate trees ´D
13:00:49 <V453000> =D
13:00:50 <V453000> gg
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13:27:07 <Wolf01> o/
13:28:06 <crem> \o
13:29:08 <Wolf01> Also coffee
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16:12:17 <Alberth> o/
16:12:35 <Wolf01> o/
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16:13:43 <andythenorth> lo
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16:18:30 <Cadadadry> hello, world
16:18:42 <Alberth> world is here? :O
16:19:14 <Cadadadry> two neurones of it : you and me...
16:19:59 <Cadadadry> btw where can I DL Road hog ?
16:22:10 <Cadadadry> How nice, TS3 is working OK... How bad, nobody ever showing up...
16:22:14 <Alberth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/road-hog/releases/ or http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/road-hog/nightlies/ depending hot close to the edge you want to be
16:22:27 <Alberth> *how
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16:23:50 <andythenorth> Cadadadry: or bananas
16:24:14 <Alberth> good point andy
16:24:20 <Cadadadry> thx for the link - I wish the most stable release, I guess it's 1.2.0 ?..
16:25:40 <Cadadadry> andy : what do you mean by bananas ???
16:25:51 <Alberth> in-game content download
16:26:00 <Cadadadry> ah ok
16:26:34 <Cadadadry> stupid question I guess, can I add new content to an already started game ?
16:26:42 <Alberth> not
16:26:48 <Cadadadry> not stupid ?
16:26:54 <Cadadadry> ;) ^^
16:27:01 <Alberth> not add new content
16:27:16 <Cadadadry> ok ok I'll give it a try next game, it looks gorgeous :)
16:27:51 <Alberth> yep, although I typically only use the trams
16:28:19 <Cadadadry> what's the command to whisper pls ?
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16:28:41 <Cadadadry> I tried several but no result..
16:29:03 <Alberth> don't know what that means
16:29:13 <Alberth> there is /me does stuff
16:29:31 * Cadadadry scratching his head
16:30:28 <Cadadadry> it's been ages since I used iirc...
16:31:18 <Cadadadry> mumble and TS are so convenient when needing help..
16:31:37 <Wolf01> You can have provate chats on irc
16:31:40 <Wolf01> *private
16:31:50 <Cadadadry> yes, what's the command pls ?
16:31:53 <Wolf01> But here you might need to be registered
16:32:14 <Alberth> Cadadadry: try /help
16:32:20 <Wolf01> /query nick usually
16:32:52 <Cadadadry> already tryied /help, /whisper, /w : none working
16:32:59 <Alkel_U3> or /msg nick message to send directly without the query window
16:33:14 <andythenorth> using /msg can be annoying :)
16:33:29 * andythenorth is firmly against DMs except when already talking to someone and need to back-channel :P
16:33:31 <Alkel_U3> or /notice nick message
16:33:39 <Wolf01> Also querying is annoying
16:34:37 <Alkel_U3> true, if you don't need direct one-on-one conversation, it's better to leave it in the open where more people can contribute their wisdom
16:35:23 <Cadadadry> what is CTCP ?
16:35:42 <Alberth> search for "irc ctcp" ? :)
16:35:57 <Alkel_U3> client to client protocol. I was wandering what client you're using
16:36:10 <Alkel_U3> s/wa/wo/
16:36:59 <Cadadadry> I'm on Firefox
16:37:11 <Wolf01> Webchat
16:37:40 <Cadadadry> I admit I don't know, it's been automatically installed or triggered by FF
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16:39:41 <Cadadadry> This one : qwebirc v0.92 (?)
16:40:20 <Alkel_U3> yes, webchat
16:41:12 <Cadadadry> It's not visible in my FF addons, must be build-in...
16:41:56 <Alkel_U3> it's a web application, all server-side, your browser isn't getting any irc
16:42:27 <Cadadadry> ah ok, cool stuff :)
16:42:58 * Cadadadry smoke break 5 min.
16:43:00 <Alkel_U3> IIRC only old Opera among big browsers had a built-in IRC client
16:43:28 <Alkel_U3> a good one, I leked it
16:43:30 <Alkel_U3> *liked
16:43:57 <Wolf01> I used the thunderbird one, but meh
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16:49:23 <Cadadadry> Alkel, did I answer your request ?
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16:51:55 <Alkel_U3> Cadadadry: if you mean telling me what client you're on there was no need, I asked your client directly - hence the ctcp request you received :-)
16:52:28 <Cadadadry> ok Alkel, I get it now ;)
16:53:40 <Cadadadry> anybody for a coop game ?
16:54:16 <Cadadadry> pls don't wait until I'm 53...
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16:55:24 <Alkel_U3> I'm just gonna play a quick 'get home from work to get beer' game
16:55:25 <Cadadadry> Here is a deal : I coach you on WoT, you coach me on openTTD
16:55:48 <Cadadadry> (WoT = World of Tanks)
16:56:21 <Cadadadry> >Alkel_U3 I understand
16:57:30 <Alberth> most regulars here hardly play the game
16:58:16 <Cadadadry> wondering if there is any player still using TS or playing coop...
16:58:54 <Alberth> tried the coop server?
16:59:20 <Cadadadry> on TS3 ? yes I'm in
16:59:38 <Cadadadry> nobody showed up for at least 3 days
17:00:16 <Cadadadry> I don't know any other way, and wiki doesn't tell
17:01:35 <Cadadadry> On wiki the link for french community is out of action...
17:02:28 <Cadadadry> and about banana, I'm lost, dunno what to choose
17:02:42 <Alberth> don't know what TS3 is, but I mean this one : https://www.openttd.org/en/server/75624
17:03:07 <Alberth> ie public openttdcoop
17:03:40 <Cadadadry> thx, I didn't know that one
17:05:49 <Cadadadry> TS3 = Teamspeak3, voicechat server to use with a mike
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17:06:53 <Cadadadry> I see content to DL on coop server, but I don't see who's connected, how do I know ?
17:07:31 <Cadadadry> oh I see : 0 / 255 spectators :/
17:07:33 <Alberth> my server page said Clients:0 / 255 (1 / 1 companies; 0 / 255 spectators)
17:07:48 <Alberth> but that changes in time
17:07:50 <Cadadadry> yeah, same proble as TS3
17:08:12 <Alberth> for europe, you are just before dinner time
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17:08:21 <Alberth> in the middle of the week
17:08:30 <Alberth> quite bad time for playing a game
17:08:35 <Cadadadry> it's 5 1/4 pm here
17:08:52 <Cadadadry> but yes I guess it's a bit late in the day
17:09:08 <Cadadadry> however, what would you do to find a coop player ?
17:09:28 <Cadadadry> actually I mean a coaching coop player
17:10:48 <peter1138> early rather than late
17:11:02 <peter1138> wonder if the ts is still used
17:11:13 <peter1138> lots of people switching to that other thing these days
17:11:20 <peter1138> discord?
17:11:20 <Alberth> why don't you post and ask at the forum?
17:11:24 <Cadadadry> TS is still ON, but nobody visiting..
17:11:45 <Cadadadry> I'll try forum as last chance, I find it less direct than here..
17:12:13 <Cadadadry> but ok, I stop bothering you ;)
17:12:28 <Cadadadry> cya folks
17:12:34 <Alberth> the froum has room for a savegame, and lengthy discussions
17:12:49 <peter1138> Cadadadry, well
17:12:50 <Alberth> here you can mostly post images and a direct question only
17:12:55 <peter1138> there's another channel here for coop
17:13:09 <Cadadadry> ah ?
17:13:19 <peter1138> #openttdcoop? or something
17:14:08 <Cadadadry> thx for the info
17:31:33 <andythenorth> http://www.openttdcoop.org/
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17:41:29 <Cadadadry> thx guys for helping, I'm now going on on another channel, cya
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18:25:01 <longrin> is there a newgrf provides rail "dead ends" ? i mean these bumpers at the end of a track.
18:26:46 <andythenorth> several
18:27:04 <glx> I remember a station grf doing that
18:27:08 <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=29257&p=536529&hilit=Generic+Buffers#p536529
18:27:10 <andythenorth> ISR does it
18:27:14 <andythenorth> DB set probably does it
18:27:27 <andythenorth> CHIPs does it by magic, every dead end station tiles automatically gets buffers
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18:30:39 <V453000> many station grf do it
18:30:44 <V453000> maybe even most of them I'd say
18:40:01 <FLHerne> NewStations ones have the nice feature that they can be grass-only without any platforms
18:40:06 <FLHerne> Good for sidings
18:41:22 <longrin> ok, that term doesn't came onto my mind. buffers, alright. i think i'wll try generic buffers. i can't find scrennshots from dbset, but it sounds interessting
18:44:44 <Alkel_U3> DB set is trains, Andy probably meant NewStations (both from Michael Blunck)
18:45:46 <Alkel_U3> I'd say that newstations are the best pax station set but then again, I'm a bit biased by that being all I had for about 10 years
18:50:51 <andythenorth> Wolf01: need to make new branches for BGT eh?
18:51:01 <Wolf01> Yes
18:51:10 <andythenorth> dunno if they’re based on NRT, or whether we merge NRT patches in
18:51:16 <andythenorth> ottd and nml
18:52:59 <Wolf01> I don't know if it's better to start a new repository only for BGT as the NRT one is really dirty with broken branches and unused ones
18:54:13 <andythenorth> nah, it’s git, doesn’t matter eh
18:54:29 <andythenorth> branches are free
18:54:51 <Wolf01> Also are repos
18:55:53 <andythenorth> true, but meh
18:56:04 <andythenorth> we have repos at work with hundreds of branches
18:57:16 <Wolf01> Yes, but even if NRT and BGT are almost the same thing, there are branches for NRT with features being worked and there will be branches for BGT with other features for BGT only
18:58:53 <Wolf01> BTW, I need to build a Macross Valkyrie with only the parts I have... it will be difficult because I miss a lot of white parts :(
19:04:16 <andythenorth> is it a Transformer?
19:04:26 <Wolf01> Yes
19:05:25 <Wolf01> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/7a/8e/687a8ef920de3884cffcc7b9390c35ad.jpg
19:06:16 <andythenorth> nice hand parts
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19:07:42 <Wolf01> I've just finished to renew my old Macross SDF-1, fixed some colours and added a lot of detail, the head/bridge is still too big but I don't have any idea on how to fix it
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19:10:29 <Wolf01> http://imgur.com/a/fStO1
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19:11:42 <Wolf01> https://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/hsg/hsgmc05_1.jpg?v=1422248373 this is the one I have
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19:24:19 <V453000> omfg I had an if which was checking if a node group in blender exists, and inside of the if I was creating the node group if it doesn't exist .... so of course the script did not run after 1st iteration XD
19:24:31 <V453000> was debugging it for good while before realizing
19:25:24 <peter1138> :D
19:26:30 * andythenorth is bored again
19:26:36 <andythenorth> do something?
19:26:52 <peter1138> I am doing something.
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19:41:03 <NGC3982_> please dont.
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20:12:14 <andythenorth> such https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6620
20:16:57 <frosch123> if it is the sprite font, maybe some chars are provided by openttd.grf and others by some other baseset
20:17:48 <andythenorth> tl;dr andythenorth should fix it? :|
20:18:10 <andythenorth> I have to go look in a lot of fonts?
20:18:14 <frosch123> first need to figure out which baseset :)
20:18:25 <andythenorth> and switch to spanish to repro it
20:18:29 <andythenorth> FFS :)
20:18:36 <andythenorth> frosch123: we need branches for BGT then
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20:18:52 <Wolf01> Quak
20:19:11 <frosch123> i thought some more about some todos, but did not update the spec yet
20:19:21 <andythenorth> work bug count is down to 35
20:19:26 <andythenorth> 95 feature requests
20:19:30 <andythenorth> 100 other backlogged items :P
20:19:39 * andythenorth uses FS as practice for real work
20:20:09 <frosch123> internal or external tracker?
20:20:19 <andythenorth> staff only
20:20:34 <andythenorth> but the 95 feature requests are on behalf of paying customers
20:20:41 <andythenorth> we group them, so there are probably 300 requests thre
20:20:43 <andythenorth> there *
20:22:30 <andythenorth> ~9,000 users
20:24:07 <andythenorth> oh 70 tickets hidden away under ‘not now'
20:24:10 <andythenorth> useful
20:24:26 <andythenorth> they tend to self-close over time by no longer being relevant
20:25:28 <frosch123> so every that involves eu stuff :p
20:26:21 <andythenorth> sadly that will generate more tickets
20:26:54 <andythenorth> the GDPR tickets will get doubled over as Special UK GDPR Post Brexit Special Regime
20:27:36 <andythenorth> by being in the EU I got all the fun of cookie law
20:27:52 <andythenorth> and now by being out of EU, I will get all the fun of dual data protection regimes
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20:29:14 <Eddi|zuHause> even after brexit they will have to follow pretty much all eu laws anyway
20:30:26 <andythenorth> yes but there will be two governance regimes :P
20:30:41 <andythenorth> I’m sure it’s all for the best
20:30:46 <andythenorth> in the best of all possible worlds
20:30:58 <Eddi|zuHause> sure.
20:31:02 <Eddi|zuHause> when did that ever happen :p
20:34:07 <andythenorth> 1848?
20:35:50 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848
20:35:55 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartism#1848_Petition
20:36:05 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I need 10 of one part, which only appears on an exclusive set which is sold on bricklink at ~200€ and only 4 are sold
20:36:32 <Wolf01> Also one is sold at 612€
20:37:28 <andythenorth> change colour scheme :P
20:37:53 <Wolf01> Eh, easy when that's the colour you really need
20:38:09 <Wolf01> Changing it to another colour doesn't make sense
20:40:38 <andythenorth> frosch123: anything I can do to help with BGT?
20:45:15 <frosch123> i think it's too early to do anything meaningulf
20:45:43 <andythenorth> strikes me that having fake example tiles might help
20:46:06 <andythenorth> probably a photoshop job
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21:24:29 * andythenorth should finish FIRS 3 http://www.railpictures.net/photo/542533/
21:25:10 <Alberth> +1
21:27:54 <V453000> YEAH RUSTY WAGONS
21:27:55 <V453000> FUCK YEAH
21:27:57 <V453000> DIRTY
21:30:11 <frosch123> whats' the round thing?
21:31:09 <frosch123> you know, the yeti-hand-bellow thingie
21:34:55 <andythenorth> yes, that’s where the Yetis blow the air into the blast furnace
21:36:46 <frosch123> ah, the engine is remote controlled
21:36:53 <frosch123> i wondered how a yeti would fit inside
21:38:50 <frosch123> isn't it weird to write "remote controlled" on an engine?
21:41:44 <andythenorth> not if you don’t want people phoning the police to report runaways
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22:00:51 <nekomaster> Hello everybody! :)
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23:58:09 <Eddi|zuHause> dangit, stuck again...
23:58:31 <Eddi|zuHause> he says i should take a sip from the bottle, but he doesn't let me fill my bottle from his bottle