IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-08-26
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00:12:45 <__3298> Wolf01, I've dealt with openttd windows resizing themselves before, perhaps you should check out how existing windows with that ability do it, e.g. the finances window
00:13:45 <__3298> as far as i remember, stuff gets hidden completely via SetDisplayedPlane(0) followed by a ReInit
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00:35:05 <Wolf01> I'm just mocking it to learn how the ui works, I was used to the old one
00:39:18 <__3298> i think ReInit is missing after the SetDisplayedPlane calls
00:40:17 <Wolf01> I didn't see a ReInit on other UIs
00:40:26 <Wolf01> Maybe a finishInitNested?
00:41:51 <__3298> company_gui.cpp, struct CompanyFinancesWindow
00:43:19 <__3298> it doesn't even use NWID_SELECTION, but with some SetDisplayedPlane and ReInit it resizes itself to a tiny window and back to the full one
00:44:00 <__3298> scratch that, it does use NWID_SELECTION, i just missed it
00:45:13 <Wolf01> ReInit does nothing O_o
00:46:10 <__3298> maybe it's some secret ingredient in the construction. i know i copied it and got a transparency window with a working resize button
00:46:13 <Wolf01> Ok, it does change the window size
00:46:18 <Wolf01> But I don't really wanted that
00:48:16 <Wolf01> I get the same behaviour but with tabs vertically stacked
00:49:07 <__3298> i think i need to compile that to understand
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00:52:39 <__3298> bah, base language changes, they always make the thing recompile everything. sooo slow
00:53:14 <Wolf01> Yes, that's why I asked if it was possible to use a string :P
00:55:18 <__3298> it is possible with those raw string thingy, but i think it's too much trouble because you need to make sure the parameter is set when the string is drawn
00:55:34 <__3298> ah, it finished compiling
00:56:53 <__3298> aaahhh, i see what you mean about vertically stacked
01:09:46 <__3298> i have a suspicion, currently recompiling to confirm/deny
01:13:16 <__3298> having three widgets of type NWID_SELECTION isn't the right way, one is what you need
01:14:02 <Wolf01> I started with one and named containers but got null pointers when trying to hide them
01:14:16 <__3298> then you stuff your tabs in it, one composite (is that the right term?) widget like NWID_HORIZONTAL per tab
01:14:46 <__3298> on the selection one you call SetDisplayedPlane with a parameter 0, 1, 2, ...
01:16:35 <__3298> the order window's delete/stop sharing button works that way (dunno why, they could have made it one button which changes text and checks the context in its Onclick, but instead it's two buttons that get exchanged via NWID_SELECTION)
01:18:38 <__3298> great, glad to be helpful for once
01:20:04 <__3298> it's been years since i last messed with that stuff, without grep i wouldn't have remembered that order window button, but that was the key
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01:23:27 <__3298> or, as andy would put it: /me -> bed
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08:57:40 <V453000> andythenorth: seen the shit?
09:00:56 <andythenorth> I like the one tilted on its side
09:01:30 <V453000> btw there is no growth stages so the screen will get a lot more busy ._. I will probably turn some trees into rocks or grass patches
09:01:36 <V453000> kind of hate grass patches though
09:02:01 <andythenorth> and yeti with fire hose
09:02:07 <andythenorth> landscape is just...flames
09:03:55 <V453000> btw I was editing it to get a nicer conversion XD when the trees were darker the conversion looked more fucked
09:04:05 <V453000> it looks better overall though
09:04:50 <andythenorth> consistent tones eh
09:04:57 <andythenorth> don’t really want to notice trees
09:06:04 <andythenorth> is background foreground or is foreground background? Blah blah
09:06:26 <V453000> well I think trees are something in the middle
09:06:51 <V453000> terrain-trees-tracks-trains-gui
09:09:14 <andythenorth> “background is foreground” is some art quote
09:09:32 <andythenorth> I think it means - what’s behind the main subject, makes the main subject appear
09:09:47 <andythenorth> in game, main subject is…TRAINS
09:15:56 <V453000> you don't want to see what I am going to do to ships
09:29:49 * andythenorth bbl today or tomorrow…stuff to do :)
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13:16:14 <V453000> XD some time ago I was making a simple research on which tree goes where
13:16:20 <V453000> obviously most of it was wrong XD
13:16:43 <V453000> but the thresholds of IDs between climates are borkd
13:21:01 <Wolf01> Fuck I want an inline diff on VS
13:21:11 <Wolf01> Like the one on PHPStorm
13:21:31 <Wolf01> Maybe resharper has it... but 120€ license fuck me
13:25:17 <LordAro> Wolf01: have you tried CLion?
13:27:18 <Wolf01> I'm considering the all-in-one pack for 250€... when I'll find a job which pays
13:27:29 <Wolf01> I already have PHPStorm
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13:54:42 <Wolf01> I should work with alberth to make a UI designer which generates the NWidget structure
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14:13:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27899 trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp (2017-08-26 14:12:59 +0200 )
14:13:04 <DorpsGek> -Feature: Draw vertical separators at tile distance in the train depot GUI. This only applies if all vehicles use consistent lengths, i.e. either if only using default vehicles, or if only using NewGRF vehicles with 32px reference width. (based on patch by Wolf01)
14:13:48 <Wolf01> Andy would be happy ;)
14:15:20 <Wolf01> @summon andythenorth, alberth
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17:31:54 <Wolf01> ;o; I forgot how to develop in javascript
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18:39:47 <peter1138> that setting used to be global anyway
18:39:55 <peter1138> confusing if it is no longer :S
18:40:30 <peter1138> if it isn't global now, how it does work with mixed consists?
18:42:13 <frosch123> every vehicle sets its own length
18:42:39 <frosch123> when mixed, every train looks fine on its own
18:42:55 <frosch123> but two trains may look differently long in depot when they have the same length
18:44:34 <frosch123> but shortened vehicles generally fail when not using 32px
18:44:55 <frosch123> since int(29/2) + int(29/2) != 29
18:45:09 <frosch123> you can see that in nuts
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20:40:39 <Wolf01> I hate so much when I config a thing and it doesn't follow what I set... :|
20:49:59 <Wolf01> Alberth: how well do you remember the base mechanics of the UI?
20:50:34 <Wolf01> I would like to try to make a UI designer, at least to generate the base structure
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21:26:03 <Alberth> it's not that difficult
21:26:36 <Alberth> not sure it's worth the trouble, but fair enough
21:32:58 <Alberth> line 666 widget.cpp, line 808 widget_type.h it is probably dated, so treat it as mostly describing the global idea, with pointers to a subset of the widgets
21:33:44 <Alberth> I didn't implement zooming, and scrollbars changed considerably afterwards
21:35:40 <peter1138> < frosch123> but two trains may look differently long in depot when they have the same length
21:35:51 <peter1138> that's why it was always global
21:36:27 <LordAro> that does seem pretty wrong
21:36:29 <peter1138> the global setting could be set by any grf
21:36:42 <peter1138> it wasn't meant to be a per-grf setting
21:38:36 <LordAro> that is excessively detailed
21:39:55 <Alberth> Space widget is somewhat obsolete, there are simpler methods now
21:40:19 <Alberth> main menu still is very much old-style iirc
21:42:24 <frosch123> peter1138: gaps between vehicles also look bad
21:43:27 <frosch123> also, 29px never worked correctly
21:43:53 <frosch123> 29 is not divideable by 8 or even by 2, so fractional length never add up to the whole
21:44:17 <frosch123> so with 29px "trains with same length have same depot length" never works
21:45:08 <frosch123> for example nuts early vehicles are 4/8+4/8 and shorter than the second generation
21:46:51 <frosch123> LordAro: see, back then patchers wrote pdf documents before they started coding :)
21:49:05 <Alberth> filling is now much closer to resizing
21:58:08 <peter1138> gaps between is better than different lenghts
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21:59:25 <frosch123> haha, andy show up at the same time as a mail notification :p
22:00:02 <andythenorth> anyone know who Stampy?
22:00:36 <frosch123> did you get the reopen request from george?
22:01:10 <andythenorth> got a pm from george with required/not for all his requests
22:01:22 <andythenorth> mostly required, but closed a few
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22:09:27 * andythenorth has a tactic in work bug tracker
22:09:55 <andythenorth> "yes, but not a current goal (nobody will work on it"
22:10:15 <andythenorth> and then we set the bug tracker to hide those in queries :p
22:10:48 <andythenorth> and then it's more fun
22:11:40 <andythenorth> left alone, tickets tend to be opened faster than tickets can be closed
22:12:07 <andythenorth> fighting a losing war is very uninteresting :)
22:12:47 <_dp_> I think it's called "on hold" in some other trackers
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22:15:50 <andythenorth> flakey client :x
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22:17:13 <andythenorth> "on ice" was what I used
22:17:29 <andythenorth> now I just use "not in next 12 months"
22:17:42 <andythenorth> beyond then, who knows eh? :)
22:20:30 <LordAro> well with that kind of attitude, no, it won't
22:21:00 <_dp_> one more reason to redo subtile movement
22:21:46 <andythenorth> lordaro we should start a betting market on fs tasks :D
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22:30:09 <andythenorth> meh unstable connection :p
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23:09:37 <peter1138> definitely inspired by...
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