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09:46:54 <LordAro> that's an impressively bad connection
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10:46:16 <Eddi|zuHause> that does look exactly like my problem, however i'm not sure there's a solution in there
10:48:18 <Alberth> it broke, -force-opengl worked for a while, and now it's broken in upstream drivers
10:48:50 <Alberth> do we have some standard place for example DOS palette image?
10:50:57 <Eddi|zuHause> hm. there's not actually an image there
10:54:34 <Alberth> oh, and of course the NML tutorial already links to it :p
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11:14:39 <Wolf01> Cthulhu cookies for breakfast, yummm
11:30:10 <Eddi|zuHause> that thread mentions something about llvm 4.0
11:30:20 <Eddi|zuHause> but i have no real idea how i should update that
11:30:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't have llvm installed, only libllvm, and it says 3.8.0
11:33:10 <Alberth> libllvm is likely the runtime support for the technology
11:33:39 <Alberth> you could check which packages use it, to see what you pull over if you upgrade
11:34:15 <Alberth> other side of llvm is in the compiler and the linker, afaik, but tbh, no idea what it exactly does
11:35:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: yeah, that's what i'm afraid of, if i just pull a new version of libllvm, i might break random stuff
11:35:47 <Alberth> since it's a major version change, likely it's the difference between latest stable and current unstable
11:36:59 <Wolf01> Meh, windows store on phone is broken, can't update/download apps, and since it auto-updates itself I think I must wait for another windows update for a fix :|
11:48:22 <Wolf01> Oh, they have just broken the install on sd card again..
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12:15:44 <andythenorth_> Short > medium > long
12:16:21 <andythenorth_> IH is weird, engines get longer then shorter
12:19:45 <Wolf01> I've always seen it as natural development order: first version -> more power more space -> even more power in compressed space
12:20:35 <andythenorth_> That is what IH does
12:20:57 <Wolf01> But you are free to not give a shit and make all the same size
12:21:13 <Wolf01> Or even long -> medium -> short :D
12:24:49 <andythenorth_> Wagons: 4/8 > 4/8 > 8/8....weird jump?
12:25:04 <andythenorth_> Unless there are 4 generations....
12:25:24 <andythenorth_> Realism says 6/8 for gen 2
12:25:53 <andythenorth_> But that prevents integer train length
12:26:42 <Wolf01> Even "medium" prevents integer train length, or "short" if "medium" is 4/8
12:27:47 <andythenorth_> Medium is probly 6/8
12:28:46 <Wolf01> I don't care about train lenght while it fits the station, so I don't care about integer lenght, that's only your decision
12:29:02 <Wolf01> I would play it anyway
12:30:55 <andythenorth_> I could make the last wagon change length
12:31:10 <andythenorth_> So it always reports integer
12:31:41 <andythenorth_> Or I could offer multiple wagon lengths on refit
12:32:08 <andythenorth_> The non-integer lengths are quite unbearable :D
12:32:25 <andythenorth_> The rounding is not even consistent
12:32:43 <Wolf01> Just don't give a shit?
12:34:15 <andythenorth_> There's no meta-game that way :p
12:34:45 <andythenorth_> Somebody devised this as a challenge to newgrf authors ;)
12:35:04 <andythenorth_> Now I have to beat it
12:35:58 <Wolf01> Make a newobject yard with an animated shunting puzzle
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13:03:18 <Flygon> <Wolf01> Make a newobject yard with an animated shunting puzzle
13:03:25 <Flygon> So basically that Thomas the Tank Engine DOS game.
13:04:12 <Wolf01> I've never played it, but it should be enough to keep andy busy for a nice amount of time :P
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13:18:09 <andythenorth_> Will 2/8 wagons look silly? o_O
13:20:25 <andythenorth_> Possibly it's impossible to make a train grf?? :)
13:21:00 <Wolf01> If you put hard limits, then maybe it is
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21:18:10 <V453000> LMFAO train acceleration model is still Original as default?
21:25:28 <Wolf01> Yeah, don't you like it?
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