IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-06-29
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00:36:45 <supermop> ok yet another version posted to forums
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10:50:20 <Wolf01> Ads suggesting "speak italian like you've always wanted to", "5 reasons you should start learning italian now"
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11:41:16 <__ln__> i think you have a great potential to learn speak italian like you've always wanted to
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11:50:50 <Wolf01> Good, I finally managed to balance the energy consumption and production
11:51:27 <Wolf01> 828 solar panels and 507 accumulatora
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16:30:21 <supermop> so running cost factor cannot be more than 255
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18:42:01 <supermop> other than for the road trains, the costs seem to be pretty well balanced now though - i fear that if i scale everything downwards to get enough headroom for the road trains to be more expensive
18:42:36 <supermop> everything else will be trivially cheap and there won't be any meaningful distinction between diesel and electric trucks
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20:42:34 <supermop> i think i will now make running costs convoluted and arcane
20:46:18 <andythenorth> you have to try it
20:46:21 <andythenorth> so you learn not to
20:46:44 <andythenorth> I should finish fricking FIRS 3
20:46:51 <andythenorth> I would like it out of my head :P
20:47:19 <supermop> andythenorth: the problem is making things arcane in subtle ways so no one ever complains about it
20:47:30 <supermop> so then i will never learn not to
20:47:45 <supermop> i might put trams in a separate set. this one is too big
20:48:56 <supermop> also these 1910 roadtrains look stupid
20:52:53 <andythenorth> bet my laptop drops the connection in 2 mins
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21:01:11 <supermop> andy, either they are too weak to use, or there is no point using anything else
21:01:22 <supermop> maybe i'll make them haul only
21:03:09 <andythenorth> what capacity are they?
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21:47:27 <supermop> early ones are probably like 60 ish
21:51:40 <andythenorth> yeah that’s a lot
21:52:07 <andythenorth> but that’s the nature of the beast
21:54:54 <supermop> trying to figure out how to set run cost
22:00:14 <supermop> i liked the way the costs were, but there's no room to make triples cost even 1.5 times the equivalent semis
22:00:56 <andythenorth> you hit the top of the range?
22:00:57 <supermop> because last semi mineral truck is already like 240
22:01:02 <andythenorth> set the run cost multiplier
22:01:06 <andythenorth> and shift everything
22:01:23 <supermop> running_cost_factor: 240
22:01:38 <supermop> what is the multiplier
22:03:01 <supermop> does that affect all RVs or just the ones in this grf?
22:03:07 <andythenorth> the ones in the grf iirc
22:03:38 <supermop> because the point of the param was to balance against ogfx+/hog/egrvts
22:03:51 <andythenorth> bounce it to x2, and halve your current values
22:04:03 <andythenorth> looks like I used 3
22:05:03 <supermop> was thinking id figure out what the 4th gen triple costs then scale everything so that equals 250
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22:14:40 <supermop> im splitting running cost out into fuel, mechanical, staff, truck body
22:14:47 <supermop> just for the hell of it
22:16:01 <supermop> mostly so i can make ref. trucks cost more than box trucks or whatever
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22:39:25 <supermop> so your internet is messed up?
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22:43:36 <andythenorth> I can’t stop it going to sleep
22:47:18 <andythenorth> I should caffeinate it
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22:54:43 * andythenorth gave it amphetamine
22:54:54 <andythenorth> suprised Apple allowed that on the app store
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