IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-04-13
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00:39:28 <quiznilo> ginger in very small amounts in some foods is very, very good
00:39:36 <quiznilo> lots of people use way too much of it
00:39:54 <quiznilo> I'm like ginger ale though, and love ginger candies and cookies
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02:21:18 <supermop_home> you are like ginger ale, quiznilo?
02:22:10 <quiznilo> yeah, whatever I meant to say
02:23:50 <supermop_home> I buy a little person shaped root of it every now and then, but never manage to use it all up
02:24:08 <supermop_home> very good in certain soups that I or my wife make though
02:24:17 <supermop_home> and pretty cheap to buy here
02:24:35 <supermop_home> for ginger ale, I prefer ginger beer
02:24:45 <supermop_home> ideally the cloudy kind
03:03:12 <supermop_home> need to buy some gochujang and fancy kimchi
03:03:43 <supermop_home> V453000for making Korean micheladas with OB or Hite beer
03:04:10 <supermop_home> also was looking at those old aus renders this afternoon
03:08:22 <V453000> aus stuff was cute but am spoilt with factorio now
03:08:41 <supermop_home> i figure when it comes to micheladas - you are starting with a crappy beer, so put as much spicy weird stuff in there as you can
03:09:41 <supermop_home> I am 'spoilt' with a real job rather than working holiday freelance stuff
03:10:08 <supermop_home> but it was kind of fun to have a whatever schedule to design whatever I could
03:10:20 <V453000> well factorio basically is a real working holiday XD
03:10:47 <supermop_home> had an interview for a much more corporate firm today
03:11:12 <supermop_home> place I've been at the last year+ is small and super disorganized
03:11:17 <supermop_home> but sometimes fun
03:11:46 <supermop_home> not going to be as fun as your job though
03:14:37 <V453000> well, making game graphics is a lot of hard work that aren't apparent from the outside :)
03:14:59 <supermop_home> I don't doubt that it is hard
03:15:30 <V453000> fun is often overriden by hard for some people :)
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09:31:41 <peter1138> need to stop being so tired :S
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09:46:00 <Wolf01> Me creator update kicked in
09:46:22 <Arveen2> assimilation in progress
09:47:18 <Wolf01> It assimilated all the possible download band now
09:48:03 <Wolf01> Even irc works because he can find a spare bit every now and then
09:48:05 <Arveen2> i downloaded the ISO and will do a clean install over the easter holidays i think
09:49:06 <Wolf01> I'm thinking to do a clean install since redstone, but looking at how much I need to re-download for VS...
09:49:49 <Wolf01> With a 3M ADSL is discouraging
09:59:22 <Arveen2> which version of VS you useing ?
10:00:57 <Wolf01> 2015, but I wanted to install 2017 too
10:01:20 <Arveen2> nice. i also got 2015 and was thinking to move on to 2017
10:16:15 <Arveen2> what do you think about eclipse ?
10:17:06 <Arveen2> i used that ages ago for c++
10:18:30 <peter1138> I just use vim for c++ :)
10:18:48 <Wolf01> Does it have intellisense?
10:19:05 <peter1138> can do if you can be bothered to set it up with the right plugins and library versions...
10:19:43 <__ln__> is there a computer built so far, powerful enough to run eclipse?
10:19:55 <Wolf01> I already have some difficulties to save and close with vim, I use nano
10:23:46 <Wolf01> Yeah, esc... I don't know why I keep forgetting it
10:25:39 <Arveen2> this editor is more complicated than putting a regex together :P
10:27:06 <Wolf01> I have to study the entire system when I need to write a regexp, and I usually resort to search stackoverflow for something already done which I need to finetune
10:27:57 <Arveen2> no doubt. i went to a power shell training 2 weeks ago and the hardest part was the regex day
10:29:58 <Wolf01> For example there are people I know who parse webpage and extract the results with a single regexp (which never works well)... I parse the page with dom functions and then get the single strings with the regexp
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12:23:22 <peter1138> I need to boot into Windows some time...
12:26:48 <Wolf01> Nice, next patch will add harvesting without terrain modeling
12:28:42 <Wolf01> Skip some minutes at the beginning
12:32:05 <Wolf01> I'll expect inserters to load fuel tanks on spaceships... that will ruin the game :D
12:34:42 <Wolf01> Oh, I'm going to run the Win10CU, I hope it will not take the entire day :P
13:36:27 <Wolf01> Back... mmmh, nothing changed yet, I don't feel any superpoweer
13:39:57 <Wolf01> Ok, drew little cock, now I'm happy
13:43:03 <V453000> almost half the size of mine
13:48:47 <Wolf01> I should be able to upgrade the linux kernel now
13:49:22 <Wolf01> Mmmh, dist still stuck at 14.04
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13:58:09 <Arveen2> wolf - what game was that screenshot you posted earlier ?
14:02:34 <Wolf01> It's a good game and has a lot of potential
14:04:18 <Arveen2> its still early access right ?
14:08:48 <Wolf01> Not much to play at the moment but it gives you some funny hours
14:09:18 <Arveen2> i added it to my watch list heh
14:21:29 <Wolf01> Ok, ubuntu subsystem updated to 16.04
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18:02:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Arveen2: your alternative facts are invalid, because it doesn't have the most bestest windowses of all, ME and Vista
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18:05:32 <Wolf01> I bet V is writing FFF
18:06:18 <Arveen2> today counts as Friday for me
18:07:13 <Wolf01> Btw, he should write one, last one was on march
18:07:17 <Arveen2> i still need to go shopping for the holidays ...
18:08:00 <Wolf01> Also my lego order has shipped
18:08:26 <Arveen2> what have you ordered ?
18:08:41 <Wolf01> Some ninjago for the parts
18:09:27 <supermop> i read that as 'for the pants'
18:09:41 <supermop> like you spent 190eur just for ssome lego legs
18:10:01 <Arveen2> my favorite is Blacktron
18:10:38 <Eddi|zuHause> <Arveen2> i still need to go shopping for the holidays ... <-- don't... shops look like everyone is shopping for the end of the world
18:10:40 <Wolf01> It could be even a good order, 190€ of legs which are useful for various stuff, like mecha hands
18:11:06 <Wolf01> I need to purchase some pasta :(
18:11:53 <Arveen2> yeah, we want to go like really late. i been to a Lidl during my lunch break and it was like its judgement day
18:13:32 <Wolf01> Eh, I need to go to lidl too
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18:36:23 <quiznilo> whoever did that skycrane newrgf, that thing is badass
18:37:42 <quiznilo> ships with av8 I think
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18:46:09 <fredcwbr> Hi there,. since I don't know where to start, would like to ask about some issues while playing ottd.
18:46:38 <Wolf01> Oh, we are plenty of issues if you want some :D
18:47:03 <quiznilo> aircraft are OP, nerf 'em
18:47:27 <fredcwbr> I'm using 1.6 Debian linux version., and was wondering if there is some GRF or other that would enable a train to have orders by there railstock,.,
18:47:45 <fredcwbr> or different orders to each wagon in the composition, .
18:47:57 <Wolf01> No, that's not possible
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18:48:26 <Wolf01> You could have station refit orders, that's the best we can offer
18:48:49 <fredcwbr> what would be "station refit orders"?
18:49:40 <Wolf01> You set a train to change the cargo (must be compatible with the wagons) directly on a station
18:50:40 <quiznilo> the amount of freight too and from a station needs to be fairly balanced... I've never had a use for it
18:51:04 <Wolf01> Like: you have open wagons, you can tell the train to load iron at station A, unload at station B (steel mill), load coal at station C and unload at station B again
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18:51:56 <quiznilo> hmm... I wonder if you could build power plants, one each next to a coal mine
18:52:07 <fredcwbr> I see... ;; is that a limitation on the overall engine?
18:52:09 <quiznilo> you wouldn't need to refit though
18:52:38 <fredcwbr> understood the proposition., ..
18:52:57 <fredcwbr> not exactly what I had in mind,.,
18:53:30 <quiznilo> I don't get how you could give different orders to wagons
18:54:48 <Wolf01> <quiznilo> hmm... I wonder if you could build power plants, one each next to a coal mine <- you get paid by distance and time, if too close you don't get paid so much
18:55:08 <quiznilo> assuming that they're optimal distances away
18:55:54 <quiznilo> aha! To solve the unbalanced freight problem, just set the lesser station order to not 'full load'
18:56:03 <glx> IIRC coal is always paying well
18:57:04 <glx> unless it's a really extra long line
18:58:02 <fredcwbr> thank you quiznilo., .. will look this aproach.,
18:58:04 <Alberth> passengers works too, as you have a full train in both directions
18:58:35 <glx> but you are easily overflowed by waiting passengers :)
19:00:15 <Alberth> no matter how many trains you throw at it, the station won't get empty :p
19:14:16 <Samu> is it possible to refit a whole group of aircraft?
19:14:37 <Samu> want to refit 4 aircraft with shared orders
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19:25:31 <supermop> remove coal from firs eh?
19:28:56 <frosch123> process it into gold
19:34:02 <Wolf01> Lead mine -> alchemic factory -> gold
19:34:18 <peter1138> remove firs from coal
19:35:19 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like a failed SQL query
19:39:01 <Eddi|zuHause> so... today's wtf is a spam mail, which uses as "sender" a name of a guy who i haven't talked to in like 10 years, and i don't think i ever got a mail from him at all
19:39:53 <Alberth> he may have your though, apparently :)
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20:11:16 <FLHerne> Samu: If they support refit-in-station, then you can do it that way
20:30:51 <andythenorth> also station names
20:31:44 <quiznilo> last night, ottd opponent clears giant patch at great expense, tears down part of a mountain to build his central prime hub, and a new power plant appears in the very middle
20:33:53 <andythenorth> need station names for
20:34:22 <frosch123> feature request: when detecting lots of landscaping, spawn radio towers
20:34:43 <quiznilo> you already got 'portage' as station name, right? I think I saw that one
20:34:43 <andythenorth> probably other industries could have better station names too :P
20:34:52 <andythenorth> shall I make the docs print them?
20:35:30 <quiznilo> there are a lot of 'portage roads' in US
20:35:35 <quiznilo> not sure where you are
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20:43:17 <andythenorth> can anyone else build FIRS? :o
20:44:29 <Alberth> nmlc ERROR: "src/lang/english.lng", line 5: Undefined command "TITLE" this should fail for you too?
20:56:04 <supermop> quiznilo: portages were traditionally where you had to take your raft/boat out of the stream and carry it to another stream
20:56:34 <supermop> or just carry the stuff in the boat to a different boat already in the other water
20:56:48 <andythenorth> I wonder if jenkins is using a makefile target that doesn’t work
20:56:56 <andythenorth> I think it’s failing on the extra tags
20:58:44 <andythenorth> I can’t login to see if there are any build artefacts
20:59:16 <andythenorth> my login fails :)
21:03:06 <Alberth> rm custom_tags.txt (it's a generated thing right?)
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21:07:07 <Alberth> add custom_tags.txt as dependency on $(GRF_FILE) ?
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21:28:49 <andythenorth> make bundle_tar fails locally for me too :)
21:29:02 <andythenorth> Alberth: I can just remove the --verbose flag?
21:42:59 <Alberth> can't you just give the bundle_dir/src to mk-archive ?
21:56:57 <andythenorth> standard yak-shaving: 90 minutes ago I wanted to include station names in docs
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23:49:34 <argoneus> good evening train friends
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