IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-09-28
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00:31:59 <Wolf01> Uhm, I'm trying to host a server, but it's not accessible, firewall and nat are ok
00:33:42 <Wolf01> Just want to play with a friend
00:33:56 <Wolf01> Neither IP nor serverlist (it's advertised)
00:34:06 <Wolf01> Both have the same problem
00:42:23 <glx> stupid ISP doing nasty stuff with UDP ?
00:44:32 <glx> maybe wrong private IP in NAT (I think you checked that already but can happen)
00:57:05 <Wolf01> It could be that I have some virtual machines?
00:57:17 <Wolf01> Maybe OTTD listen on the wrong interface
01:06:08 <glx> it should listen on all interfaces
01:19:37 <glx> anything in [server_bind_addresses] section ?
01:26:38 <Wolf01> Oh yes, I have that, empty
01:27:51 <glx> ok so it really listen on all interfaces
01:28:40 <glx> I don't know what's wrong
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01:34:56 <Wolf01> Uh, I didn't think you could estimate a cost to change a config setting O_o
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11:42:06 <Wolf01> Uhm, I think there's something wrong with hosting a server, if I run it in dedicated mode I can see it on master-server and lan, if I try to host it from client I can't see it anywhere but I can access it adding the lan ip
11:45:31 <Wolf01> Uhm, no, I can't see it on master-server, it shows with the stupid ip class 169.254
11:46:43 <Wolf01> Also, after the first succesful connection with master-server it now shows me the message to open the ports.. which are already forwarded in nat
11:48:59 <Wolf01> Also it closes the connection as soon as I try to connect with the client
12:31:18 <Wolf01> Btw, I also recreated the openttd.cfg, nothing changed
12:42:36 <peter1138> fix your system if it has a 169 ip
12:43:35 <Wolf01> But I have the right ip on lan
12:44:20 <Wolf01> I think is the windows phone emulator, I have 8 network interfaces and that is the only one always active without dhcp
12:45:29 <Wolf01> Yes, disabling that now works
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13:48:07 <Samu_> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_DYNAMITE_RIVER :Allow removal of rivers: {STRING2} STR_CONFIG_SETTING_DYNAMITE_RIVER_HELPTEXT :If disabled, rivers are indestructible and a permanent part of the landscape
13:48:36 <Samu_> does it need a better helptext description?
14:00:04 <Samu_> and become a permanent part
14:06:26 <Samu_> if (_game_mode == GM_NORMAL && !_settings_game.construction.dynamite_river && !_cheats.magic_bulldozer.value) {
14:14:47 <Samu_> i assume in the scenario editor, ppl still want rivers to be removed when bulldozing them, right?
14:16:14 <Samu_> ok, then it stays like this
14:17:54 <Samu_> Money base_cost = IsCanal(tile) ? _price[PR_CLEAR_CANAL] : IsRiver(tile) && _game_mode == GM_NORMAL && !_settings_game.construction.dynamite_river && !_cheats.magic_bulldozer.value ? 0 : _price[PR_CLEAR_WATER];
14:20:52 <Samu_> alright, i'm creating the patch
14:29:11 <Wolf01> Why does OTTD need to scan grfs every 3 runs?
14:30:51 <Samu_> hopefully it's bug free, i'm running out of time today, going on a voyage :(
14:31:15 <Eddi|zuHause> because it checks every run, but after the 3rd it flushed them out of your disk cache?
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17:23:20 <Fujk> how much cheaper are advertised vehicles vs buying them later?
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17:35:04 <Alberth> not, but you get them earlier, (and keep them longer iirc)
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18:50:49 <Fujk> anyone have a good alpine map with big mountains where you need to make tracks between them?
18:57:04 <Alberth> generate an arctice map with high variation?
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20:18:28 <andythenorth> supermop go again?
20:18:36 <andythenorth> anyone for MP goals game?
20:18:55 <supermop> i'm down if it can be less fast paced than yesterday
20:19:11 <andythenorth> that’s how NCG goes :)
20:19:11 <supermop> have a few work things to juggle and need to grab coffee
20:19:21 <andythenorth> if we played over 2 nights that would be better
20:19:36 * andythenorth went to bed too late and is paying for it today
20:19:38 <supermop> i think V453000 is running some yeti game on the pro server so we need another
20:20:20 <supermop> also, that Tassie height map probably would've worked better at a different scale
20:20:32 <V453000> nobody is playing there so it is absolutely no issue to load a game there guys
20:20:36 <V453000> or we can load it on stable
20:22:12 <andythenorth> Alberth: MP game? o_O
20:22:23 <andythenorth> supermop: happy to play same map, but needs much higher industry density
20:22:34 <V453000> if we feel like it is a problem, we will just revive .nightly
20:22:42 <andythenorth> and if you want slower pace, we need to plan to play over 2 nights, for about 10-12 years, not 7
20:22:42 <V453000> no worries :) that's what the servers are for
20:22:51 <supermop> i just hit add random industries once
20:23:01 <supermop> let me alter the scenario
20:23:11 <Alberth> where, and what version?
20:23:19 <V453000> andythenorth: our pro zone
20:23:24 <V453000> join #openttdcoop.pro
20:23:33 <supermop> im going to save it as 1.6.1 tho
20:23:42 <andythenorth> should be fine, backwards compatible
20:23:42 <supermop> will post in 5 min approx
20:23:43 <V453000> that's not an issue supermop
20:23:50 <V453000> we can use stable version if you want
20:23:53 <V453000> it's not an issue either
20:23:57 <andythenorth> supermop: also if the goals are mail or pax, we need more 50% towns
20:24:02 <andythenorth> and a few larger ones
20:24:23 <andythenorth> 1965 was a nice start year
20:24:28 <V453000> you might get other people playing on stable too, or we could just set password / company limit :)
20:24:39 <andythenorth> more is more fun
20:24:58 <andythenorth> supermop: also if you want a relaxing game, and there’s more of us, set £500k loan, not £300k
20:25:00 <V453000> in that case it's not an issue to load a map to the welcome server
20:25:09 <andythenorth> otherwise first 30 mins are people waiting to spend money
20:25:46 <andythenorth> we got completely owned yesterday
20:25:56 <andythenorth> oh remember that NCG has an obiwan in the year also :P
20:25:57 <supermop> any other newgrf wanted?
20:26:07 <andythenorth> I was fine except for adding AV9
20:26:18 <andythenorth> goal window said ‘end of 1972'
20:26:30 <andythenorth> but game stopped at end of 1971
20:26:41 <andythenorth> it’s a known issue, there might be a newer NCG that fixes it
20:26:55 <supermop> thats newest on nanas
20:27:04 <andythenorth> ok, well we just need to remember
20:27:20 <andythenorth> I think we might have at least won food if it wasn’t for that date bug :P
20:28:29 <V453000> Alberth: I guess we use .stable
20:29:11 <andythenorth> #openttdcoop.stable ?
20:29:44 <supermop> cdist on for all cargoes?
20:29:50 <andythenorth> I wouldn’t bother
20:29:53 <andythenorth> it was quite nice not to
20:30:06 <andythenorth> cdist buys very little, except pax transfers tbh
20:30:33 <supermop> town growth speed normal?
20:31:51 <andythenorth> Alberth: what time is bed time for you? I am one hour behind, and want to stop playing at 22.00 my local time :)
20:31:57 <andythenorth> that is maybe a bit late for you?
20:32:18 <andythenorth> supermop: any is fine
20:32:25 <andythenorth> whatever AV9 recommends
20:32:30 <Alberth> I tend to go to bed at 10.00 local time too, ie one hour before you
20:32:56 <andythenorth> supermop: what TZ are you in?
20:33:29 <supermop> 10 years, 10,000 cargo?
20:33:37 <andythenorth> supermop: 14.33 where you are?
20:33:48 <andythenorth> 13 years, 50k cargo :)
20:33:50 <andythenorth> there are 3 of us
20:33:58 <andythenorth> that’s 12 years of playing, due to the bug :P
20:35:06 <andythenorth> it reports the game will last 1 year longer than it does
20:37:01 <andythenorth> supermop: same FIRS economy?
20:38:37 <andythenorth> In A Hot Country :)
20:44:33 <supermop> gah should have added american roads
20:44:42 <supermop> anyway have at it lads
20:44:53 <supermop> im gonna get coffee be on in a sec
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21:04:42 <Wolf01> So... TL;DR, what happened today?
21:13:23 <andythenorth> Wolf01: play coop game?
21:13:28 <andythenorth> #openttdcoop.pro
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21:43:45 <frosch123> ah, xkcd features andy again
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22:23:02 <andythenorth> frosch123: we’re in #openttdcoop.pro btw
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