IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-08-04
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05:29:30 <MonkeyDrone> anyone has a spare Ultraedit license lying around? :D
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07:21:51 <archlinuxrussian> hi, anyone around at this hour? :)
07:23:41 <MonkeyDrone> me but im' just a civ
07:24:34 <archlinuxrussian> just a Civ? O_o
07:24:49 <archlinuxrussian> Anyway, just curious if anyone here uses the "joker patchpack" of OpenTTD...
07:25:09 <MonkeyDrone> never heard of it :P
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07:26:11 <archlinuxrussian> MonkeyDrone: o.o uhm...okay? Lol. And it's fine.
07:27:23 <archlinuxrussian> Just been having it crash on me a tonne...but it has something amazing included: automatic spacing of vehicles...
07:28:18 <MonkeyDrone> probably why it crashes, lol
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07:29:34 <archlinuxrussian> Pretty much...just saddened lol.
07:29:39 <Alkel_U3> you mean autoseparation?
07:29:43 <archlinuxrussian> I love playing OpenTTD and it scratches an itch o.o
07:29:45 <archlinuxrussian> Alkel_U3: yep
07:29:53 <archlinuxrussian> I believe so at least...
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07:31:48 <Alkel_U3> that's included in a lot of patchpacks. Namely I'd recommend JGR's patchpack, he seems to take the stability quite seriously (not saying others aren't but this one I'm following the most). The feature list of that pack is also quite good imho.
07:33:07 <Alkel_U3> I even learned that some sort of autoseparation is present in trunk, but it's quite awkward to use
07:34:07 <archlinuxrussian> That system where you control+click on "start date" and it issues dif start dates?
07:34:29 <Alkel_U3> also if you encounter a crash or a bug with a patchpack, probably write a post in its thread on forums so the author canremedy it
07:34:50 <archlinuxrussian> Alkel_U3: I already made an issue on the joker patchpack github
07:35:06 <Alkel_U3> yeah, I guess that's it.Not very powerfull and needs to be corrected with every change
07:36:22 <archlinuxrussian> when I add a new train, it'll just make things more convoluted haha
07:38:43 <archlinuxrussian> Alkel_U3: thanks for the new patchpack recomendation :)
07:41:09 <archlinuxrussian> JGR while compiling spurted out an error
07:41:38 <Alkel_U3> I've always compiled without trouble on ubuntu
07:43:33 <archlinuxrussian> pssh...git-cloned from a fork of JGR's stuff
07:43:39 <MonkeyDrone> wooo finally got my nginx going again
07:44:12 <Alkel_U3> I usually just download the source from the thread
07:44:50 <Alkel_U3> probably less efficient, but not so much I care :-)
07:46:43 <Alkel_U3> nginx... I'm still battling it regarding a reverse proxy. My URL shotener for weechat still doesn't work due to that :(
07:47:46 <archlinuxrussian> Alkel_U3: yeah, I'd prefer to pull from git :P so if I wana update it's "git pull ; and make
07:58:55 <MonkeyDrone> great, my internet is dead because windows anniversary update download is sucking up all the juice :D
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08:18:28 <archlinuxrussian> MonkeyDrone: lol
08:25:59 <Alkel_U3> argh! Vampire! And it turned out to be my best broker and mechanic :(
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08:37:12 <Flygon> <Flygon> The most frustrating thing with the Chinese straddlebus (why does that sound so sexy), is that they didn't even bother making it Double Deck. Even though they basically have unlimited vertical loading gauge.
08:38:08 <Alkel_U3> maybe they wanted to fit it under some street fixtures or bridges?
08:38:32 <Flygon> I was running under the assumption they weren't putting it under bridges <_>
08:39:00 <Alkel_U3> oh, I also just assume, I veven't bothered to read up on details :-)
08:39:32 <Flygon> I think the whole concept is silly anyway
08:40:03 <Flygon> If it were up to me, and it HAD to be above the traffic, inside an ultra-compact space. I'd just use one of those monorails like in Germany
08:40:08 <Flygon> Where the floor has nothing under it
08:40:10 <Alkel_U3> so do I but let's see how it works out for them
08:40:14 <Flygon> And the thing powers itself on the roof
08:41:23 <Alkel_U3> well, this seems like the construction cost for the infrastructure might be lower than elevated monorail
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09:15:44 <archlinuxrussian> Alkel_U3: thanks again for the recommendation! It's working quite well :) now to find a good map >___> lol. Can't wait to set up my own Amtrak company now xD lol
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09:22:39 <MonkeyDrone> Sweet, i can stalk ze irc from my cellphone.
09:22:54 <V453000> in replace blocks, can I do something like 2733-2736 and replace all those vehicles with a single spritesheet template?
09:23:07 <V453000> or do I have to have a single replace block for each sprite ID?
09:30:17 <V453000> because it would mean I need 8 templates per zoom level and 8bpp/32bpp for trains
09:30:23 <V453000> 1 template for each rotation
09:49:50 <Alberth> templates are just conveniences in writing down repeated patterns, you can always expand the template yourself to "bare" code.
10:05:06 <V453000> I just read that putting 2733 there automatically loads all 8
10:10:04 <Alberth> ok, don't understand what that means, but you apparently do
10:12:41 <V453000> replace WAGONS_RAIL_PASSENGER (2733) { template_x1_8bpp_vehicle8 (0,"gfx/TRAINS_8bpp.png") }
10:12:49 <V453000> with template which uses 8x []
10:12:57 <V453000> loads 4 or 8 views automatically
10:13:10 <V453000> and automatically replaces these sprite IDs, first one being 2733
10:13:21 <V453000> I am especially surprised that it automatically knows whether to use 4 or 8 views
10:13:46 <V453000> oh yeah it just replaces 8 of them in a row
10:13:53 <V453000> ok that is a slight oversight XD
10:14:04 <V453000> in other news, BRIX vehicles will be awesome
10:18:21 <Wolf01> Nice, windows ready to update even here
10:24:15 <Wolf01> It seem really more usable now on my tablet
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11:11:01 <Wolf01> Good, let's see how many ages it takes to update, bbl
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12:16:44 <Wolf01> hey, look who's back :D
12:17:00 <Wolf01> The tablet took 6 hours to update this night :(
12:24:41 <MonkeyDrone> Wolf01 ,win tab? My pc w10 update took 15 minutes after having whole thing downloaded.
12:25:28 <Wolf01> Maybe even this one, I wasn't here while it updated
12:45:13 <MonkeyDrone> who's going to push ottd 1.6.1 stable to ubuntu repo?
12:45:54 <MonkeyDrone> damn, have to download 161 like a savag
12:49:37 <Alkel_U3> just use playdeb repository
12:49:50 <Alkel_U3> like a civilised man :-)
12:52:03 <MonkeyDrone> playdeb, will google that Alkel_U3, ty
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12:53:07 <MonkeyDrone> holy crap it has NFS2
12:53:12 <MonkeyDrone> so installing that
12:54:55 <Alkel_U3> optionally append apps after games in the second command to get also the getdeb repo
12:55:29 <MonkeyDrone> already done, installing nfs2 :P
12:57:18 <MonkeyDrone> damn, should have done this trhough terminal, atleast i would have seen it's size, taking its sweeet time
13:01:18 <Alkel_U3> damn, it must be new. Only for Xenial. I really should upgrade my Trusty soon :-)
13:01:56 <Alkel_U3> especially now that a service pack is out
13:03:13 <MonkeyDrone> Alkel_U3: hehe, yeah you should :P
13:03:28 <MonkeyDrone> quiet a few decent games in there that have my attention
13:03:53 <Alkel_U3> most of those are available for older releases of ubuntu as well
13:04:47 <MonkeyDrone> indeed, well i just downloaded it yesterday so i'm on 16.04.1
13:05:23 <MonkeyDrone> some of these games are really old from game console age
13:05:41 <MonkeyDrone> heh got goonies on the last page :P
13:07:30 <Alkel_U3> I was surprised that ScummVM got support for The Neverhood Chronicles recently
13:09:19 <MonkeyDrone> Beneath a steel sky, only game on the list i've played there
13:11:11 <Alkel_U3> your question was aimed at scummvm, not neverhood, I pressume
13:11:23 <MonkeyDrone> both, but i found Scummvm
13:11:33 <MonkeyDrone> i assume neverhood is a game for it
13:12:39 <Alkel_U3> well, not "for it" in all aspects. ScummVM is engine that can run old adventure games
13:13:17 <Alkel_U3> Neverhood is an amazing claymation game from around 1995
13:16:35 <MonkeyDrone> heh, when i was only 10 years old ;P damn we gotten old :Pp
13:16:44 <MonkeyDrone> well enjoy it when it comes :D
13:20:02 <MonkeyDrone> i mean enjoy it when you get time to play it :D
13:20:18 <MonkeyDrone> congrats on teh breakthrough :p
13:23:04 <MonkeyDrone> making headway along with the project:D
13:24:24 <V453000> moar effortz in the evening
13:41:05 <MonkeyDrone> lol @ Edge, sneaking it's shortcut into the taskbar after the anniversary update. good try M$
13:46:51 <Wolf01> Edge is really better now
13:48:21 <Wolf01> Also I noticed it doesn't hang up anymore with multitouch
13:48:56 <Eddi|zuHause> "it doesn't crash" is now the standard level for a microsoft program being "good"?
13:49:17 <Wolf01> And they reintroduced the swipe for the history
13:50:00 <Wolf01> It's really fast on rendering
13:56:20 <MonkeyDrone> lol Eddi|zuHause, straight for the low blow xD
13:56:36 <MonkeyDrone> Wolf01: maybe it works well on the tab
13:56:45 <MonkeyDrone> Wolf01: but as a desktop windows user, i'll stick to FF and Chrome
13:57:32 <MonkeyDrone> i've been using FF since forever, only for a few months i switched to Chrome because their support / implementation was horrible as hell during the W8 stage
13:57:35 <Wolf01> ff started to annoy me, chrome is going safari
13:57:51 <MonkeyDrone> they couldn't manage to get their shit together for quiet a while, the memory leaks...
13:58:16 <MonkeyDrone> Ff seems to be on a stable edition now, hopefully they don't go fuck it all up again
13:58:32 <MonkeyDrone> Chrome is my backup, Edge can be my last resort. I still have Opera before that :P
13:58:42 <Alkel_U3> nothing else has vimperator or pentadactyl. cvim is close-ish but not quite there :(
13:58:58 <Alkel_U3> otherwise I'd start considering Vivaldi
13:59:40 <Wolf01> Ff fucked up again with 48, I'll wait at least 48.3 before considering to update
13:59:43 <MonkeyDrone> Vivaldi, i see opera cofounder ris working magic on it
14:00:17 <MonkeyDrone> ok i am on 47.0.1 but now its downloading an update, 22mb, at this speed, needs 10 mins :P
14:00:19 <Alkel_U3> it really bothers me that one can't use addons like cvim or mouse gestures on special pages in chrome-based browsers
14:00:34 <MonkeyDrone> Wolf01: then again it fucked up your RSS feed right, i don't use that so i probably won't notice anything different with it
14:00:59 <MonkeyDrone> Alkel_U3: never heard of cvim, good tuff?
14:01:27 <Wolf01> Not my RSS, every single RSS which looks malformed
14:01:34 <Alkel_U3> MonkeyDrone: adds vim-style commands to chrome-based browsers, similar to vimperator in FF
14:01:55 <Alkel_U3> good for me, not good for everybody
14:02:26 <Alkel_U3> it really depends on one's preferences
14:06:53 <MonkeyDrone> vim style commands, yeah i'll pass on that :P
14:09:08 <MonkeyDrone> Vivaldi looks promising, gonna install that.
14:19:25 <MonkeyDrone> Vivaldi is based on chrome,
14:24:11 <Alkel_U3> still, it's closer to the original Opera. There was hope (however small) that Opera would retain it's functionality and just swap Presto for Blink when they announced it. Unfortunately, they effectively performed lobotomy on it.
14:27:56 <MonkeyDrone> ah shame, but they can work towards making Blink better and getting most of the love from Presto in there
14:28:06 <MonkeyDrone> but that would take time and money and do they even want to
14:28:33 <MonkeyDrone> oh well, i'm gonna take a nap :P
14:28:37 <MonkeyDrone> feel super sleeeepy
14:28:55 <MonkeyDrone> sleeeep for 30 mins :P
14:51:58 <Wolf01> I coffee for 30 minutes instead
14:57:33 <Alkel_U3> I'd also coffee but I'm picky and will have to wait a week before the coffee machine at work runs out of this crappy supermarket coffee :(
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16:23:48 <MonkeyDrone> Well nap time went too long xD
16:33:27 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on your definition of 30 minutes
16:39:22 <MonkeyDrone> hehe , 30 mins is 30 mins xD. Well off to get some workout done. Laters :p
17:00:28 <MonkeyDrone> Nope, too lazy to workout today. Gonna chill here at the park. Hehe
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17:51:49 <Alkel_U3> great tragedy fell upon me. I ran out of beer.
17:53:18 <Alkel_U3> luckily my flatmate has some leftover jugs of mead
17:53:46 <Alkel_U3> so I will not go insane today
17:57:10 <Alberth> quick, run to the shop and buy new beer
17:57:34 <Alkel_U3> sure, I need to return the empty bottles anyway
17:58:06 <Alkel_U3> I'm not sure I can fit it all into my hiking backpack anymore
18:00:15 <Alkel_U3> I need to get gass accesory for my beer tap, then I can have draft beer from one barrel for two weeks
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18:40:29 <Alkel_U3> aaand a vile force of darkness has arrived. That's gonna be... fun.
18:40:44 <Alkel_U3> MonkeyDrone: how is your "fun" doing, anyway? :-)
18:41:02 <Hiddenfunstuff> You have a beer tap?
18:41:17 <Alkel_U3> sure, that's very handy stuff
18:41:27 <Hiddenfunstuff> Do you need anything else than a beer barrel for it?
18:41:31 <Alkel_U3> a basic model with hand-pump
18:42:05 <Hiddenfunstuff> Can you use air for the tap?
18:42:12 <Alkel_U3> no, but i pressurize it with air, which means the beer will oxidize if not drunk quickly (a day at most)
18:42:27 <Hiddenfunstuff> Hmm thats problematic
18:42:43 <Hiddenfunstuff> Solution: gravity fed tap
18:42:50 <Hiddenfunstuff> mount the barrel on the ceiling
18:43:02 <Alkel_U3> that's not gonna work due to how the barrel works :-)
18:43:03 <MonkeyDrone> Fun is good, hot wind today :( arabs need to build that artificial mountain here asap
18:43:13 <Hiddenfunstuff> flip the barrel around
18:43:37 <Hiddenfunstuff> Assuming the barrel is like a gas bottle
18:43:37 <MonkeyDrone> Probably using walmart barrel,hence problems
18:44:00 <Alkel_U3> we don't have walmart in czech republic :P
18:44:18 <MonkeyDrone> Not played df since yesterday. The whole server rework kept me busy
18:44:35 <Hiddenfunstuff> wooden or steel?
18:44:46 <Hiddenfunstuff> Hmm shouldnt be a issue
18:44:54 <Hiddenfunstuff> they usually have even perfect handles to mount it up side down
18:45:23 <Alkel_U3> problem is, even if you empty it using gravty, you need to put something else in it, you can't just pour it out and leave vacuum
18:45:39 <Hiddenfunstuff> punch a hole in it
18:45:42 <MonkeyDrone> Hidden, alkel is just too drunk to understand gravity
18:45:53 <Hiddenfunstuff> or a 1 way ball valve
18:46:06 <Alkel_U3> a hole will, again, introduce air
18:46:11 <MonkeyDrone> When you pour it out, air goes in.....
18:46:23 <MonkeyDrone> If it had vacuum inside, nothing would co e out
18:46:24 <Alkel_U3> if the presuure drops too much, it won't pour out
18:46:29 <Hiddenfunstuff> yes but if the air goes back in from the same hole beer comes out
18:46:35 <Hiddenfunstuff> the beer doesnt come out proplery
18:46:39 <MonkeyDrone> Not unless it3upside down, hehe
18:46:45 <MonkeyDrone> Seriously, get better barrels
18:46:52 <Hiddenfunstuff> its like a weak flow of an 80 year old male trying to dump liquid waste
18:47:06 <MonkeyDrone> Sounds like some shoddy craftsmanship on them barrels
18:47:38 <Alkel_U3> but I don't want the air to get inside because that will oxidize the beer! And I can do that with my pump tap already
18:47:46 <Alkel_U3> Alberth: right, tank beer!
18:48:11 <Alberth> use next bag of beer as weight to get good flow :p
18:48:25 <Hiddenfunstuff> Hmm.. introduce CO2 in it?
18:48:27 <Hiddenfunstuff> rather than air?
18:48:30 <MonkeyDrone> Just suck the beer right out the tap
18:48:39 <MonkeyDrone> Fucking genius right
18:49:57 <Alkel_U3> unfortunately my favorite breweries (the smaller ones) don't do tank beer and I don't drink _that_ much
18:50:01 <Alberth> Keg looks like a good solution, internal spear :)
18:50:24 <Alkel_U3> Hiddenfunstuff: CO2? Well, that's what I was talking about with the gas system :-)
18:50:40 <Hiddenfunstuff> yeah, punch a hole in it and then just push CO2 at higher pressure into the keg
18:50:51 <Hiddenfunstuff> though you need to figure out how to generate CO2
18:51:03 <Alkel_U3> usually, but between parties i want the keg for myself and I can't empty it fast enough
18:51:22 <Hiddenfunstuff> Depending on where you live, that shouldnt be a problem
18:51:32 <MonkeyDrone> U sure love your beer
18:52:12 <Hiddenfunstuff> Come on, a 120l keg isnt htat hard to empty
18:52:31 <Hiddenfunstuff> was thinking of an oil barrel
18:53:08 <Alkel_U3> first, if i punch a hole in the keg, it will cost me around $50 on the keg. Second, I can just spend around $180 to purchase the equipment and it will then cost just 1/25 USD extra for every bear drought :-)
18:53:31 <Alkel_U3> it is, if you have it all for yourself and you need to do it in two days :D
18:54:01 <Alkel_U3> but for a grill party with 20 people, the 50l keg is ideal
18:54:14 <Hiddenfunstuff> Is there not some sort of plumbing work that CO2 goes in from 1 port and the beer comes out of another port, and that thing plugs into the hole in the keg that is normally used to fill/empty it
18:54:43 <Alkel_U3> yeah, I was talking about it
18:54:58 <Hiddenfunstuff> shouldnt be too hard to manufacture
18:55:18 <Alkel_U3> but you don't want to use pure CO2, that will dissolve in the beer and it will be to fizzy
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18:55:49 <Alkel_U3> you want to use mixture of CO2 and N2
18:55:57 <Hiddenfunstuff> So its like gas welding
18:56:08 <Hiddenfunstuff> bit of that and more of that
18:56:32 <Alkel_U3> also you need to use a pressure regulator valve
18:56:42 <Hiddenfunstuff> yeah, all basic plumbing elements
18:57:38 <Alkel_U3> ideal ratio for beer is 20% CO2 : 80% N2, ierc
18:58:40 <Hiddenfunstuff> Either way, i envy you
18:59:02 <Hiddenfunstuff> btw how much is the beer for a barrel straight from brewery?
19:00:20 <Alkel_U3> it's something like $0.5 for 0.5 l, simmilar to bottled beer
19:00:37 <Alkel_U3> but you can get better stuff in kegs
19:00:56 <Hiddenfunstuff> 50$ for a keg of beer?
19:01:50 <Alkel_U3> but that's here in Czech Republic, where in restaurants the cheapest drink you can order is usually beer (often even over tap water :D)
19:02:30 <Hiddenfunstuff> Gotta strike a deal with a brewery..
19:02:57 <Hiddenfunstuff> +20e for a 12 pack of .33l cans is ripoff, and thats the cheapest sewegage
19:04:16 <Alkel_U3> I was to Finland once. it was funny, 3 m wide shelf dedicated to beer, half of it Czech. Even the crappiest crap started out at 3.20€ :D
19:04:33 <Hiddenfunstuff> fucking alcohol tax is ridiculous
19:04:45 <Alkel_U3> and 5€ for .33 of Heineken in a club? Hahaha lolnope
19:05:02 <Hiddenfunstuff> wanna guess the price inside concerts and festivals?
19:05:03 <MonkeyDrone> Well alcohol related diseases and medical bills cost $$$
19:05:20 <Hiddenfunstuff> usually around 8e for a small pint
19:05:48 <Hiddenfunstuff> now they are now ramping up the tobacco taxes and prices too
19:06:11 <Hiddenfunstuff> and want to ban the e-cig liquids too, so that there must be no any flavour..
19:06:59 <Alkel_U3> but it was also funny how every green area of Helsinki got filled with drunks on Friday evening and the up to then clean city got a little makeover overnight :D
19:07:00 <Hiddenfunstuff> you want to try to quit smoking? and move to e cigs? HAHA fuck you.. we'll tax it even harder and ban all the flavours of it
19:07:03 <MonkeyDrone> I like my shrooms and lsd. :D
19:07:56 <Hiddenfunstuff> Helsinki is fairly clean place, apart from the other colored people and black hairs
19:08:17 <Alkel_U3> it seemed to recover pretty quickly, though
19:08:18 <Hiddenfunstuff> Go elsewhere and you'll see regular fights in lines for food etc
19:09:26 <Hiddenfunstuff> but also only time when you see natives outside: weekend nights
19:09:49 <Alkel_U3> but I'd like to revisit Romania someday. The printed guide said to try their beer and it said so for a reason :-)
19:10:24 <Hiddenfunstuff> never would've thought Romania would make good beer
19:10:59 <Alkel_U3> hehe, night... I was visiting on the second weekend of July - what the F, the store's closed already? It's only... oh, it's 23:30.
19:11:26 <Alkel_U3> Hungaria on the other hand was quite a letdown in this regard
19:11:32 <Hiddenfunstuff> Just few weeks ago it was first evening in the north
19:11:35 <Hiddenfunstuff> for like a month
19:12:33 <Alkel_U3> now excuse me, I'm gonna have to go play Super Mario
19:12:42 <Alkel_U3> (kitchen sink clogged)
19:12:51 <Hiddenfunstuff> remember to use enough lubrication
19:13:24 <Alkel_U3> I'm just gonna launch fireballs at it until it gives
19:18:34 <MonkeyDrone> just hire some isis
19:18:44 <MonkeyDrone> tell em infidel in the pipes
19:18:45 <Hiddenfunstuff> now thats rude
19:21:18 <Alkel_U3> I can blow the pipes up myslef, thank you very much :P
19:21:30 <Alkel_U3> also, that was easier than expected
19:21:37 <MonkeyDrone> you like to blow pipes eh
19:21:57 <Hiddenfunstuff> it makes funny noise
19:22:13 <Alkel_U3> prior application of KOH was quite effective
19:22:24 <Alkel_U3> I like to blow on beer bottles :P
19:23:07 <MonkeyDrone> beer, what goes in also comes out right, beer?
19:23:33 <Hiddenfunstuff> they put beer in the keg in brewery, then you take it out and put it in your mouth at home
19:26:08 <MonkeyDrone> Hiddenfunstuff: good save :D
19:26:30 <Hiddenfunstuff> What did your pervy mind think about?
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19:29:03 <MonkeyDrone> you don't want to know Hiddenfunstuff:p
19:29:16 <MonkeyDrone> make addiction feel better
19:29:25 <Arveen> id take those meds every day
19:29:35 <Hiddenfunstuff> even if its anti depressants or other horirble meds
19:29:55 <Alkel_U3> hm, Arven? Son of Quater? Or just a coincidence? :-)
19:31:35 <Arveen> its defo not my father :P
19:31:47 <Alkel_U3> Quater is a creation of Father
19:32:09 <Hiddenfunstuff> i'm still confused
19:32:13 <Alkel_U3> Ah, nobody here played Neverhood, I see :D
19:33:56 <Arveen> nope. never heard of that
19:34:21 <MonkeyDrone> back in those days, internet was rare and stuff was hard to go around :D
19:34:21 <Arveen> we only know ottd and thats it :D
19:34:22 <Alkel_U3> shame, it's a bloody brilliant game
19:34:30 <Hiddenfunstuff> we only OTTD and factorio
19:34:34 <Alkel_U3> And Factorio and Dwarf Fortress :P
19:34:34 <MonkeyDrone> i know what cookies are though
19:34:45 <MonkeyDrone> hah, i'm playing factorio right now on my vps, it's running pretty smooth :P
19:34:58 <Hiddenfunstuff> you have VPS running factorio 24/7?
19:37:07 <MonkeyDrone> so trying it out, i don't know how well it will work with a full fledged company
19:37:14 <Hiddenfunstuff> heh, /r/factorio would like to have word with you
19:37:58 <Alkel_U3> I think the ssd is about the last important parameter
19:38:14 <Hiddenfunstuff> SSD generally are least important thing in such small game
19:39:03 <MonkeyDrone> it's the CPU i know
19:39:13 <MonkeyDrone> my setup is bare and empty, i just started mining copper
19:39:18 <MonkeyDrone> don't even have electricity :P
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19:39:30 <Hiddenfunstuff> tell us when you past 50 hours
19:39:32 <MonkeyDrone> i have not playedf acotorio isnce hte last major update came out
19:39:37 <MonkeyDrone> will keep you updated
19:39:53 <Arveen> i cant decide yet if i should try it
19:39:55 <Hiddenfunstuff> 80h in in a .13 beta thing
19:40:04 <Hiddenfunstuff> cant update to newer game version yet
19:40:04 <Alkel_U3> <MonkeyDrone | don't even have electricity :P> for a second I thought you're talking about the server :D
19:40:06 <Hiddenfunstuff> have to finish this
19:40:50 <MonkeyDrone> i'm on the latest experimental
19:40:56 <MonkeyDrone> just grabbed it today afternoon
19:41:57 <Alkel_U3> oh, shoot, I forgot, I have the siege at hand :(
19:41:59 <Hiddenfunstuff> 80 hours in and still not even producing processing units..
19:42:14 <Hiddenfunstuff> I kinda lost like 15 hours when i was doing train stuff
19:44:43 <MonkeyDrone> you savages are welcome to play on it if you want :P
19:45:05 <TrueBrain> oeh, I see an invite for a DoS! :D
19:45:15 <Hiddenfunstuff> i'll rather dont take your virginity of factorio out
19:45:34 <MonkeyDrone> virignity, what are you talking about
19:45:40 <MonkeyDrone> i lost that long long time ago
19:45:50 <MonkeyDrone> i've lost months to this game
19:45:53 <MonkeyDrone> god damn bobsmods
19:46:08 <Hiddenfunstuff> you made it seem like you never played it
19:48:02 <MonkeyDrone> naah, i had the server running on a dedicated machine before
19:48:07 <MonkeyDrone> so i don't know how well a vps will work
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19:52:48 <MonkeyDrone> hmmm my bigger problem with factorio might be the ram
19:53:03 <MonkeyDrone> i only have 2gigs, it's using 370mb as it stands
19:53:26 <MonkeyDrone> overall usage is 773M/1.91GB
19:54:49 <Hiddenfunstuff> factorio is actually quite light
19:55:30 <MonkeyDrone> i don't remember how much memory it used to use before. Was quiet a while ago
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20:02:29 <Hiddenfunstuff> a happy dwarf?
20:03:08 <Alkel_U3> happy wouldn't be a problem. They're just a bit too... dead.
20:10:18 <MonkeyDrone> poor dead dwarves
20:12:00 <Alkel_U3> only the locked-up vampire remains now, all others are dead. The trolls are going through the fortress and destroing the doors...
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20:15:34 <MonkeyDrone> Alkel_U3: you have failed again! for the last time dammit!
20:15:56 <Alkel_U3> MonkeyDrone: let's wait how your fort turns out :P
20:16:43 <Alkel_U3> oh, cool... I forgot to seal off one last bit of the cavern. One gob slipped out into it, got eaten by a GCS
20:18:50 <Alkel_U3> yes, you horrible monster, avenge my poor dorfs
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20:23:02 <MonkeyDrone> freakin nights in factorio
20:23:12 <MonkeyDrone> what kind of stupid sun do we have in this world that there's hardly any light at night
20:32:13 <MonkeyDrone> why are there so many games to play and so little time!
20:36:13 <Alkel_U3> booyeah, vampire mayor scores fatality with bare hands! One down, 35 to go! :D
20:36:51 <V453000> it's not possible to define mono/mglv water/rubber wagons, right?
20:36:55 <V453000> they have to be same as rail
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20:47:13 <frosch123> you can see that in src/table/engines.h
20:53:05 <frosch123> i found your hg commit hook yesterday :)
20:55:37 <frosch123> we had to configure brix to allow pushing zips
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20:57:05 <Alberth> nice piece of magic, that code :p
20:57:48 <frosch123> it was documented enough, so i did not have to read the code :p
20:58:45 <Alberth> I have been busy adding more sense into the fios stuff
20:59:11 <Alberth> and killing a duplicate enum here and there
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21:00:41 <Alberth> still have to code the console file list storage
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21:02:12 <Alberth> I think I have arrived at the _file_to_saveload now, or at least its enum data members
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21:40:51 <MonkeyDrone> one of my hdds is starting to die, bad sectors starting to pop up
21:41:43 * andythenorth wonders how many bad blocks his ssd has
21:43:03 <MonkeyDrone> HDD is old school kool is what it is
21:43:25 <andythenorth> I do miss the gyroscope effect in my laptop
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21:47:41 <Alberth> just add a dummy hdd that you don't actually use :p
21:47:59 <andythenorth> it was nice when walking down the stairs
21:48:05 <andythenorth> I go one way, the laptop tries to go another
21:48:25 <andythenorth> also it vibrated a bit
21:48:32 <andythenorth> and there was always a faint hum
21:48:38 <andythenorth> SSD is so boring by contrast
21:49:33 <Alberth> I do have a hdd, but it's sitting in my desktop that is standing on the floor and is never moved :)
21:49:54 <MonkeyDrone> well my main OS is on an SSD, i revel in that glory
21:50:03 <Samu> still got 2 maxtors from 2003/2004
21:50:10 <Samu> 13 years old, still using
21:50:59 <Alkel_U3> main OS is great, I have it this way, too, but something has to hold the data :-)
21:51:00 <MonkeyDrone> anyway to check if the ottd server is windows or linux?
21:51:03 <Samu> not like i had another option
21:51:08 <Samu> the main seagate hdd died
21:51:30 <MonkeyDrone> my last hdd died, lost 2TB of stuff
21:51:52 <MonkeyDrone> need to setup RAID 5 one of these years
21:52:15 <Samu> i opened it up to see what happened
21:52:18 <Alkel_U3> aaand that's when I learnt to backup
21:52:32 <Samu> the disks had sealing glue on the platters
21:52:52 <Samu> part of the seal stuff fell appart into the platter :(
21:53:44 * andythenorth doesn’t have 2TB of data :P
21:54:04 * NGC3982 can solve that pretty quickly.
21:55:21 <Alberth> V can help you there, he's an expert in big files :p
21:57:30 <MonkeyDrone> Alkel_U3: i did, i now pay for google storage online, everything is backed up there :P
21:57:43 <MonkeyDrone> Alkel_U3: soon i'll be uploading another 80Gigs to Google's N-line storage.
21:57:50 <MonkeyDrone> should cost me around $2 USD per month
22:00:13 <Alkel_U3> you just have to do it Wally-style
22:02:54 <MonkeyDrone> Alberth: it's all encrypted :)
22:03:04 <MonkeyDrone> the NSA can suck a bag of MnMs
22:03:22 <MonkeyDrone> lol brilliant Alkel_U3
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22:06:36 <andythenorth> they dwarf the train, and that’s not small
22:09:31 <Alberth> doesn't fit in openttd scale :p
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22:10:41 <Alberth> one heap would be like 64 tiles square or so :)
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23:34:39 <Samu> there's something very wrong with wmdot
23:35:11 <Samu> when he duplicates ships, he uses a depot that is almost on the other side of the map
23:40:19 <sim-al2> Yeah, I've seen some strange boat-related stuff from WMDot
23:40:34 <sim-al2> Also, it doesn't really understand how rivers work
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