IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-06-19
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06:32:03 <Jockr> Can anyone tell me why latest version of Open TTD is not available on Ubuntu Software Center?
08:05:43 <peter1138> Because Ubuntu Software Center gives you the version that is in Ubuntu.
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09:32:22 <Alberth> how are the non-white rectangles working?
09:33:54 <andythenorth> distracted by tyres so far
09:35:26 <Alberth> you need tyres too :)
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12:34:39 <skrzyp> I'm wondering who's an author of Polish cities name generator
12:34:59 <skrzyp> They're looking very accurate, but sometimes actually funny
12:36:50 <frosch123> i would bet on "pasky"
12:37:17 <frosch123> hmm,... or was that guy czech?
12:42:18 <skrzyp> Nevermind, that's not important, not any bug or something.
12:45:11 <frosch123> well, it has not been touched for over 10 years :p
12:55:36 <andythenorth> trucks trucks trucks :P
12:55:41 <andythenorth> and their man configurations
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15:13:45 <Eddi|zuHause> well, "MAN" probably has lots of truck configurations as well :p
15:32:54 * andythenorth can’t find the picture of the truck he needs to draw
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16:21:12 <andythenorth> Road Hog beta 3 is now on bananas
16:21:19 <andythenorth> some feedback would be handy
16:21:45 <andythenorth> especially the appearance across generations of open / box / flat trucks
16:23:17 <V453000> me is playing factorio now
16:29:06 <Alberth> unplug computer from wall, and problem is solved in a few hours
16:35:47 * andythenorth thinks the box trucks are boring
16:43:56 <Alberth> different coloured boxes on them :)
16:45:56 <V453000> sez 10 hours remaining
16:47:34 <skrzyp> It would be nice to share infrastructure between companies if company has more than 25% shares in each other
16:49:40 <V453000> argument like in real world doesn't tend to be very good in openttd
16:54:48 <andythenorth> I never played an infra-sharing game
16:54:55 <andythenorth> seems bizarre to me
16:55:06 <V453000> it is great until the other guy disconnects or you start having problems
16:55:15 <V453000> in other words, cooperating in one company is better
16:56:23 <Alberth> no problem for me, can you stay up that long?
16:58:22 <frosch123> andythenorth: it's essentially "liveries" :p
16:58:54 <andythenorth> I don’t get it tbh
16:59:10 <andythenorth> play together = coop
16:59:21 <andythenorth> companies compete for tiles in openttd
16:59:27 <andythenorth> it’s the fundamental mechanic of MP
16:59:44 <andythenorth> can you buy opponents in MP?
17:05:39 <Alberth> coop between companies means separate books, and no shared amount of money, giving better control over spending it :)
17:24:47 * andythenorth reworked box trucks :P
17:59:09 <andythenorth> so steam tanker truck?
17:59:20 <andythenorth> oil, petrol, chemicals...
18:00:46 <Alberth> petrol is a bit silly :p
18:02:03 <Alberth> where does it go, to a tank station for cars? :D
18:03:24 <V453000> Alberth: how much do money matter in openttd? :P <3
18:06:01 <Alberth> until I make more than I spend
18:09:27 <Alberth> MP at first is always bad, too many people spending money :p
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19:45:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27603 trunk/src/lang/spanish.txt (2016-06-19 19:45:36 +0200 )
19:45:47 <DorpsGek> spanish: 12 changes by SilverSurferZzZ
20:03:55 <NGC3982> I can't seem to install openttd properly, since my system uses libicu55.
20:06:45 <NGC3982> Aptitude only offers 1.5.3 wich works.
20:07:34 <Eddi|zuHause> tried the generic binary?
20:08:45 <blathijs> NGC3982: You could probably also pick up the 1.6.0 from Debian
20:14:35 <NGC3982> How do i install a generic binary?
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20:42:00 <Samu> hey Wormnest , just started testing more trains AIs
20:43:07 <Wormnest> nice, I hope it´s not doing too bad
20:44:06 <Samu> i'm on a much smaller monitor today
20:44:57 <Samu> virtual super resolution not supported for this mon :(
20:48:15 <andythenorth> ^ should I rework the Honister dump truck to match the progression of the box / tank trucks?
20:49:26 <Alkel_U3> I think it's nice to have some nonuniformity
20:51:41 <Samu> trAIns is leading in profit
20:51:57 <Samu> nocab is also right after
20:52:17 <Samu> but the game has just started
20:53:26 <Samu> there's competition here
20:54:15 <Eddi|zuHause> looks fine to me..
21:08:49 <Wormnest> trAIns often tends to slow down after a while
21:11:33 <Samu> currently: TracAI, then trAIns, then WormAI
21:12:31 <Samu> then NoCAB, then SimpleAI, then Otvi, then Syntrans. Trans is last place, no trains built so far
21:20:17 <NGC3982> My server is being followed by a bot filling the company slots with AI's..
21:21:03 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: Thanks, by the way.
21:22:30 <Samu> NoCAB overtakes WormAI, and trAIns overtakes TracAI
21:24:15 <Samu> WormAI overtakes NoCAB again, lel, it's going to be like this for a while
21:29:53 <Samu> trAIns is the first to reach £1000 in a quarter
21:30:33 <Samu> he's distancing himself from the rest now
21:42:08 <Samu> rats, Trans was crashed all this time, i foget he can't start on company 0
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22:39:09 <NGC3982> Bots with german names are flooding servers in the entire public list.
23:08:02 <Samu> trAIns leads, then NoCAB, then WormAI
23:08:43 <Samu> something went wrong with TracAI, his profit graph is diminishing instead of increasing
23:09:39 <Samu> OtviAI network is sub-optimal
23:10:05 <Samu> trains wait too much time at signals
23:10:42 <Samu> I'm surprised that network still didn't create a jam
23:16:39 <Samu> okay i see what's wrong with TracAI, he got several train jams
23:17:09 <Samu> it is overestimating capacity in some places
23:17:44 <Samu> too bad, TracAI started really good
23:18:13 <Samu> seemed like it was gonna be a serious competitor, but now he's got many routes with jams, that 's why I see his profit graph decreasing
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23:23:12 <Eddi|zuHause> these pesky germans. why do we tolerate them?
23:33:31 <Rubidium> they ruined a lot of good words in conversation
23:34:35 <Rubidium> e.g. I'm getting weird faces when talking about partial solutions resulting in a final solution
23:35:15 <Rubidium> and likewise the world "collaborate" or "collabarator" should be avoided by Germans when talking to the Dutch
23:35:38 <Rubidium> although these are more problematic to the older generations than the younger ones
23:42:59 <Rubidium> and as mr. Cleese said: don't mention the ... ;)
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23:51:42 <Samu> NoCAB server became extremely slow
23:53:21 <Samu> Wormnest: did you fix some bug about NoCAB causing it to become extremely slow? An Oil Refinery announced closure, NoCAB last message is that it's removing a connection to that Refinery, and now it's horribly slow
23:53:26 <glx> Rubidium: same for french ;)
23:55:04 <Wormnest> Are you using the NoCAB on bananas? In that case I have not changed anything there
23:56:03 <Wormnest> It´s probably removing the connection it had using that industry and for that it needs to wait for all trains to arrive in depot
23:56:48 <Wormnest> And since you´re using the original NoCAB it won´t even sell the trains after they have arrived in depot
23:57:42 <Samu> his server is already delayed by 2 years
23:57:50 <Wormnest> probably because it´s continually checking for all vehicles to arrive in depot
23:58:21 <Wormnest> and in general yes it´s doing a lot of computations continually
23:58:47 <Samu> that computation doesn't usually slow this bad
23:59:22 <Samu> game seems to be advancing 2 ticks per second, it's really slow
23:59:23 <Wormnest> well train pathfinding is usually more intensive and takes longer than for roadvehicles
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