IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-03-14
            
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00:46:09 <drac_boy> hi
00:48:54 <drac_boy> just wondering as I'm not sure how common they are but..any of you ever seen these turntables that basically look like a cd placed flat to ground .. rather than the other type where theres a pit in the ground and a bridge-like trestle sitting in center instead?
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00:53:07 * drac_boy also wonder if flygon is still asleep too :)
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01:19:31 <Flygon> Derp
01:23:54 <drac_boy> flygon :p I got something for you re gauge gone wonky ;)
01:24:03 <Flygon> Hum?
01:25:28 <drac_boy> http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/russ/russrefr.htm read about the first locomotive especially the part that says "wrecked every" too :)
01:25:46 <Flygon> Ahh, the 2-14-2?
01:25:55 <Flygon> Oh, 2-14-4
01:25:58 <Flygon> Was going by memory
01:26:10 <drac_boy> you were close :)
01:26:31 <drac_boy> it actually came out as a 4-14-4 revision as the photo shows..and even a man standing next to it for size idea too
01:26:41 <Flygon> In some ways, having this in 2CC set would be nice
01:26:45 <drac_boy> crazy big thing tho :)
01:27:00 <Flygon> But in others, we haven't implemeneted preventing turns for shorter than 2 tiles :B
01:28:02 <drac_boy> btw on the other hand there is one steam locomotive that looks big for its gauge but it actually runs pretty well (still around today too) one moment I'll find it for you :)
01:29:50 <Flygon> Just a note, that I do gotta do the dishes in a few minutes x.x
01:31:26 <drac_boy> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kBmwGTBBWgY/maxresdefault.jpg thats a Harz 99.23 ... 2-10-2T tank that overshadows the usual wagons for this 1000mm railway :)
01:31:51 <drac_boy> as I recall that chunky big thing was designed as a mallet replacement (the 0-4-4-0T's yeah)
01:32:14 <drac_boy> either way have fun with your kitchen dishes
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02:09:29 <Flygon> Actually, I JUST finished
02:09:33 <drac_boy> ;)
02:10:01 <Flygon> Still kind of odd to see such large loading gauges on Meter or Cape Gauges
02:10:08 <Flygon> Queensland, the 1067mm capital here
02:10:20 <drac_boy> mm
02:10:27 <Flygon> Not only has the world's largest 1067mm network, but one of the world's smallest loading gauges >_>
02:10:48 <Flygon> For a network at or above 1000mm >_>
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02:13:49 <drac_boy> well flygon whats up with these africa diesel locomotives that look like a pug with a squashed up nose? :)
02:13:56 <drac_boy> (yep 1067mm too)
02:14:03 <Flygon> Better loading gauge
02:14:33 <Flygon> (and yet, most bafflingly, Queensland holds the NG speed record (STILL!!), and, officially, the Australian speed record. 210km/h)
02:14:49 <Flygon> (unofficially, and contestedly, VLocity DMUs have hit 230km/h during stress testing)
02:14:53 <drac_boy> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/SAR_Class_34-400_34-401.JPG this is not the most squashed one I have seen but you get the idea
02:15:05 <Flygon> Looks like a T to me :3
02:21:05 <drac_boy> btw 210kph...I sure hope the ballast crew were on their best that day too ;)
02:31:49 <drac_boy> either way going now so have fun flygon
02:32:04 <Flygon> 'ave fun mang
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03:03:48 <Flygon> sim-al2: These flyovers are getting more and more nightmarish
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03:57:40 <Eddi|zuHause> <Flygon> Still kind of odd to see such large loading gauges on Meter or Cape Gauges <-- the loading gauge is actually much larger on most of that network, as they often carried standard gauge wagons on carriers
03:58:20 <Flygon> Eddi: Ding :D
03:58:26 <Eddi|zuHause> and later they regauged standard diesel engines to run on that track
03:58:43 <Flygon> Bloody hell :D
03:58:52 <Flygon> You guys have your shit sorted
03:59:11 <Eddi|zuHause> that is more of a local knowledge
04:00:08 * Flygon nod
04:00:13 <Flygon> I gotta brb, either way
04:00:20 <Flygon> Picking family member up from train station
04:00:26 <Eddi|zuHause> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-Baureihe_V_100#Baureihe_199.8_.28heute_HSB_199.8.29
04:00:29 <Flygon> We're halfway between Europe and USA >_>
04:00:38 <Flygon> PT consious enough to use the Train
04:00:42 <Eddi|zuHause> on the regauged engines
04:00:49 <Flygon> But automobile dependant enough to be a 35 minute walk from the station
04:00:54 <Flygon> And she has a borked foot
04:01:05 <Eddi|zuHause> you see how it's much larger than the wagon
04:02:10 <Eddi|zuHause> 35 minutes is like 4km
04:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause> if you're actually travelling at "we need to get somewhere" speed
04:03:42 <Eddi|zuHause> tbh, sometimes inner-city car trips take almost as long, with detours and finding a parking spot :p
04:04:05 <Eddi|zuHause> comparison gets even worse if you consider bikes
04:37:12 <Flygon> Eddi: This took 20 minutes longer than it should have, sorry
04:37:24 <Flygon> Said passenger got stuck into a conversation with her friend >_>
04:38:02 <Flygon> I WISH I had a bike
04:38:10 <Flygon> A Recumbant would be nice, but parking them is difficult
04:38:26 <Flygon> If you park it in a motorcycle spot, it'd get stolen too easily
04:38:30 <Flygon> But they don't fit bike racks
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05:02:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know what that is
05:03:46 <Eddi|zuHause> but i do know the feeling of people getting stuck in conversations :p
05:14:35 <Flygon> Recumbants are amazing
05:14:39 <Flygon> LOTS of storage room
05:14:42 <Flygon> And comfy as all fuck
05:14:44 <Flygon> And easy to drive
05:15:10 <Flygon> http://www.recumbentbikesdenver.com/images/trikes/WizWheel/ttrside.jpg
05:15:13 <Flygon> This is a more basic model
05:15:19 <Flygon> Really weird seeing the basic stuff
05:15:21 <Flygon> Because, as a kid
05:15:34 <Flygon> I used to participate in races. There was actual organized events.
05:15:45 <Flygon> And it's so weird seeing a 'basic' one with no extra gear
05:15:49 <Flygon> Or aerodynamic shell
05:17:11 <Flygon> http://kororoitcreekps.vic.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/95/2015/08/DSC_0282.jpg It's kinda funny, because, it's impossible to see out the rear of them
05:17:25 <Flygon> So you need internal rear view mirrors, with the shell on
05:17:31 <Flygon> And they roll if you corner too fast
05:17:40 <Flygon> (the shell is a safety feature...)
05:19:31 <Flygon> ...
05:19:34 <Flygon> Looking up videos
05:19:41 <Flygon> They've only gotten more crashy since I raced
05:19:54 <Flygon> How the fuck do these drivers not understand the laws of physics? O_o
05:20:15 <Flygon> I mean, it's simple. If you take a corner at 35km/h, you're going to roll!
05:23:13 <Flygon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGblVQlpILQ Maybe handing children pedal powered vehicles that can actually break the speed limit of the road they're racing on isn't a good idea >_>
05:25:35 <Flygon> (a lot of these are particulary bad for the team, due to the lack of a reverse gear)
05:29:05 <Flygon> I'm just astounded how bad a lot of these drivers are
05:29:13 <Flygon> A tight S bend is not a straight...
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06:34:24 <Flygon> Arrrgh
06:34:33 <Flygon> Trying to turn a busy quad-track line
06:34:35 <Flygon> Into octo-track
07:16:15 <Flygon> Gaaaah
07:16:16 <Flygon> I need to
07:16:23 <Flygon> Tunnel below sea level D:
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07:43:50 <Flygon> YEEERS
07:43:55 <Flygon> UP BIG BOOOY
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08:03:23 <andythenorth> o/
08:03:59 <Flygon> Eyy
08:04:02 <Flygon> Whelp
08:04:24 <Flygon> Even pretty much THE most tractive loco in this game has ssues with the load
08:07:34 <Supercheese> Scotty, we need more power!
08:15:47 <Flygon> They're giving all they got, man
08:15:56 <Flygon> This's the highest TE loco in the entire set D:
08:18:05 <Supercheese> MOAR POWAH
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08:23:48 <Flygon> Supercheese: You must be the son of Jeremy Clarkson and Tim Taylor
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08:31:31 <andythenorth> freight weight multiplier is what?
08:31:36 <andythenorth> Flygon: ^
08:31:56 <Flygon> Oh, wtf
08:31:58 <Flygon> It's set to 1
08:32:00 * Flygon sets it to 2...
08:32:15 <Flygon> I thought it was going conspicuously well
08:32:16 <Flygon> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
08:33:05 <andythenorth> I would recommend 2
08:33:08 <andythenorth> eh?
08:33:09 <andythenorth> no
08:33:15 <andythenorth> I would recommend 1
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08:45:21 <peter1138> 10
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08:58:45 <Flygon> I usually have it on 2 x3
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09:11:02 <Wolf01> moin o/
09:25:39 <Flygon> Menta menta
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10:06:50 <Flygon> Grrr, really annoyed I can't build station under bridge :D
10:44:58 <Wolf01> and over bridges too
10:49:27 <Flygon> Got Big Boys running the same freight on 2x multiplier
10:49:29 <Flygon> They're...
10:49:36 <Flygon> Having an interesting time
10:49:47 <Flygon> 6.5k HP might not be enough for 14k tonnes
10:50:28 <Flygon> But they are keeping over 50km/h
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10:54:58 <Flygon> kay
10:55:08 <Flygon> It works @ 62.5km/h...
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12:26:19 <Wolf01> o/
12:27:02 <andythenorth> o/
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15:44:22 <sim-al2> Seems legit: http://cdnstatic.visualizeus.com/thumbs/19/22/carriage,japan,motionblur,railroad,train-192224ae49df11f268ea0a3ad60a173c_h.jpg
16:06:39 <Wolf01> :D
16:22:36 <peter1138> it would fit into ottd perfectly
16:24:27 <andythenorth> chibi
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16:35:28 <degasus> hi, is there a patch/option for the GUI to hide all elements below/above a level? I guess so it's easier to plan bigger railways
16:36:12 <peter1138> there's Ctrl-X for transparency/hiding stuff
16:36:42 <Alberth> you can zoom out to get a more global view
16:37:20 <degasus> *landscape level
16:37:42 <peter1138> height level? no
16:37:42 <degasus> would be funny to display tunnels if the hill above is hidden ;)
16:37:53 <Alberth> ah, no there isn't
16:38:08 <Alberth> but you can use the info tool to query height of arbitrary tiles
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17:39:51 <argoneus> good morning train friends
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17:47:11 <peter1138> about that
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18:41:19 <Alberth> o/
18:41:24 <andythenorth> o/
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19:44:22 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7696/steel_mill_2.mov
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19:46:25 <V453000> mov?
19:46:29 <V453000> sprites gone wild
19:46:48 <andythenorth> does .mov work for other people?
19:47:00 * andythenorth is out of date on videos
19:47:09 <V453000> mov should work
19:47:12 <andythenorth> VLC plays everything for me :P
19:47:13 <V453000> VLC plays everything anyway
19:47:14 <V453000> ye
19:47:22 <andythenorth> I gave up worrying about video formats
19:47:27 <V453000> I love the smelting crane
19:47:30 <V453000> awesome detail
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19:47:42 <V453000> mov is a good format I believe
19:47:46 <andythenorth> Dan did all that :)
19:47:51 <V453000> :)
19:47:59 <andythenorth> animation rate might be a bit choppy
19:48:05 <andythenorth> I tried faster and slower, not better
19:48:10 <V453000> yeah needs yeti like animation spede :P
19:48:12 <andythenorth> I could add more frames
19:48:16 <V453000> ye
19:48:35 <andythenorth> too fast or too slow?
19:48:43 <V453000> moar frames
19:50:35 <andythenorth> could spend too long on this :P
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20:04:18 <Alberth> animated liquid iron looks great
20:05:07 <andythenorth> industry layout lacks something
20:05:09 <andythenorth> dunno what
20:05:50 <Alberth> ground? it's all filled with buildings :)
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20:12:16 <andythenorth> but empty tiles are _so_ hard to draw :P
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22:43:16 <Wolf01> 'night
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