IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2015-10-01
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00:07:10 <Ram-Z> this is just hacked together, there's nothing nice about it but I *CAN* now pause with SPACE \o/
00:07:39 <Ram-Z> and still close news windows with some other hotkey
00:16:41 <Ram-Z> I haven't touched src/error_gui.cpp, so am not sure how this is handled now
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12:42:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm probably not spending 50$ on a game ever (again)
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19:02:48 <andythenorth> I think my won_goals patch isn’t savegame safe :)
19:03:03 <andythenorth> after reloading my game, I am getting the same set of goals again
19:03:05 <Alberth> hmm, it eats savegames? :p
19:03:46 <andythenorth> I may also have somehow broken the “don’t choose goals already active"
19:03:52 <Alberth> ah, so don't quit playing until done? :)
19:03:56 <andythenorth> I currently have the same cargo-destination pair twice
19:04:06 <andythenorth> yes, I think that’s a valid solution btw
19:04:30 <andythenorth> hmm the same pair is false report
19:04:45 <andythenorth> two separae industries with same name
19:05:06 <Alberth> ah, yeah, highly annoying and confusing
19:05:20 <andythenorth> but the repeating already won goals is real
19:05:26 <Alberth> you added stuff to save and load?
19:05:36 <andythenorth> that is the problem
19:06:08 <Alberth> now you know why you want to do that :p
19:07:56 <andythenorth> and this is why it’s not committed to default :P
19:09:16 <Alberth> mostly it was to keep the option of having to make an emergency patch, imho
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19:44:37 <andythenorth> 190 FIRS downloads since yesterday :P
19:44:44 <andythenorth> ‘update all content’ :P
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20:25:32 <andythenorth> forum day is quiet
20:26:00 * andythenorth has been playing openttd
20:27:00 <andythenorth> current wishlist: station GUI more usable on 2x UI Zoom
20:27:37 <andythenorth> otherwise, nothing
20:27:56 <andythenorth> although tropic map gen is washed out rubbishes
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20:40:04 * andythenorth fiddles with chips
20:42:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i never got very far in tropic
20:43:11 <Eddi|zuHause> something about it is very unappealing
20:47:03 <andythenorth> the map is very flat
20:47:10 <andythenorth> the industry set is obviously awesome
20:47:27 <andythenorth> I can make money with 350hp trains with moderately heavy loads though :P
20:47:46 <andythenorth> grr, chips won’t compile
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20:48:17 <andythenorth> manually maintaining counts of entries :P
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20:53:18 <Ram-Z> will work on it a bit more today to get some of the obvious bugs out
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21:03:12 <andythenorth> when the only way to remember how to add features to a newgrf
21:03:18 <andythenorth> is to read previous diffs
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21:06:12 <Alberth> rather than read existing code?
21:06:44 <andythenorth> the significant thing is what I need to change :P
21:09:17 <frosch123> ah, that explains it
21:09:32 * andythenorth wonders if CHIPS should have just one group, not two
21:09:37 <frosch123> i guess everyone now and then andy acidentially wrappes the reivisions and reads a reverse diff
21:10:03 <frosch123> *every now and then
21:10:33 <andythenorth> that is actually something that happens with git :P
21:11:02 <andythenorth> git revert a premature merge or cherry-pick, then later do the actual merge intended
21:11:06 <andythenorth> ‘wtf is my code?’
21:12:41 <Eddi|zuHause> cat is blocking my chair (as usual)
21:12:59 <andythenorth> bananas and chips
21:13:21 <Eddi|zuHause> you brits get weirder and weirder with your food...
21:17:04 * andythenorth wonders how to make a zip for CHIPS
21:19:22 <andythenorth> can’t release that
21:19:43 <andythenorth> can anyone figure out how to get this onto bananas?
21:19:51 <andythenorth> on the openttdcoop account
21:21:07 <Eddi|zuHause> no funny intentions?
21:21:16 <andythenorth> no fricking idea
21:21:45 <andythenorth> I absolutely don’t understand bananas, and I’m wary of touching it
21:22:03 <andythenorth> it won’t accept a .zip or a tar.zip
21:22:15 <andythenorth> OS X doesn’t produce .tar trivially
21:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause> unzip the zip and try that?
21:22:29 <andythenorth> I can’t get the makefile to produce a .tar
21:22:38 <andythenorth> if I unzip the zip, I get a directory
21:22:42 <andythenorth> can’t upload a directory
21:22:43 <Eddi|zuHause> make bundle_tar?
21:23:35 <Eddi|zuHause> whose bright idea was to zip the tar anyway, and not gzip or xz it like normal people?
21:24:11 <andythenorth> people who now know better :)
21:25:24 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you could teach bananas to handle zips...
21:26:56 <andythenorth> many things are possible...
21:28:03 <andythenorth> stations are awful
21:28:11 <andythenorth> but adding cargos to CHIPS is not awful
21:29:47 <Supercheese> ho, a CHIPS update
21:32:13 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: the reason is probably that people are not supposed to untar
21:32:22 <frosch123> so win people get a zip, and keep the tar
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21:33:20 <andythenorth> OS X untars when unzipping
21:33:41 <Alberth> problem of current tar bundling is that the version number is not properly inserted
21:38:34 <frosch123> didn't redistributors complain about changing bundle names?
21:41:44 <Alberth> so it's useful to have all firs version get named "firs.tar" ?
21:42:15 <Alberth> and inside the tar firs/firs.grf ?
21:42:45 <Alberth> ie absolutely no indication what version some file is
21:54:52 <Eddi|zuHause> wasn't it rather a bananas limitation that the filename can't be changed between versions?
22:08:37 <andythenorth> goals won’t get won on their own
22:18:57 <peter1138> goal: don't play ottd.
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