IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2015-08-15
            
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00:46:46 <Wolf01> night
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01:27:07 <Ether_Man> Anyone have a pic or guide for how to make high throughput merging? Been looking at a lot of different station designs, but I just cannot get anything I try to work very well. Testing various designs in a quite short loop where a 9 line ro-ro station needs to merge into a lower number, but even trying to merge them to three lines (any to any style), it creates massive problems even with a quite low amount of trains where it creates long queues on the in line
01:27:07 <Ether_Man> s because trains cant leave the station fast enough, even though 3 lines to 1 works flawlessly.
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01:30:02 <Eddi|zuHause> just make 3 3-to-1 merges
01:30:07 <Eddi|zuHause> no need to mix things
01:30:43 <Ether_Man> With the design I have in mind, it kind of does.
01:31:40 <Eddi|zuHause> why? as long as the 3 lines run in parallel, and every exit can be reached from each of the 3 lines?
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01:32:36 <Ether_Man> Because the 3 lines only run in parallell for testing the station design. They're not intended to do so for the final thing
01:38:06 <_dp_> that's too much trains for one line, afaik 3-4 platforms per line is about max you can get without building some ridiculously complex compressors
01:38:18 <_dp_> at least that goes for 7 tile trains and TIM or Asia
01:39:23 <Ether_Man> _dp_, 9 to 3, is 3 platforms per line.
01:40:12 <_dp_> ah, I though you wantet to merge them to one line
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01:51:00 <Sylf> eh... any "good design" denpends on the context, when I build anything
01:55:55 <Ether_Man> Sylf, was gonna have a try at basically a star design network where all trains either feed the station or picks up any of their type that is there.
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01:59:42 <Eddi|zuHause> mixing 9 platforms into 3 single track lines seems to me as an unnecessarily tight goal
02:00:10 <Sylf> without any context, I don't have any specifics... but you can read TRAIN_FLAG_FLIP
02:00:13 <Sylf> er
02:00:18 <Sylf> read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Merging_Tracks
02:00:48 <ChrisSawyer> You won't believe who I am
02:01:06 <Sylf> nope.
02:01:36 <Sylf> ChrisSawyer connecting from an American ISP? Nope.
02:01:54 <ChrisSawyer> I made the original transport tycoon
02:06:29 <Ether_Man> You might share a name with him, but it's highly doubtful that Chris Sawyer would be connecting from a home line in the US...
02:06:49 <Ether_Man> As in, the Chris Sawywer who made TT
02:08:19 <ChrisSawyer> just enjoying my flat screen TV in my lamborghini bought with the millions of dollars i made from RCT
02:09:53 <Ether_Man> In the words of Jeremy Clarkson, "Only a complete twat would actually buy one"...
02:21:05 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i believe that you are onision
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03:50:04 <Afdal> Hay what % of ocean covered do Low and Very Low correspond to?
03:50:37 <Afdal> And Medium I guess
03:50:52 <Afdal> Sea Level*
04:00:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i think the actual results vary widely
04:01:05 <Eddi|zuHause> so just use what gives good results, without sticking to absolute numbers
04:02:48 <Afdal> :I
04:02:52 <Afdal> doesn't anyone know
04:06:37 <Eddi|zuHause> src/tgp.cpp:static const amplitude_t _water_percent[4] = {70, 170, 270, 420};
04:06:38 <Eddi|zuHause> src/tgp.cpp: const amplitude_t water_percent = sea_level_setting != (int)CUSTOM_SEA_LEVEL_NUMBER_DIFFICULTY ? _water_percent[sea_level_setting] : _settings_game.game_creation.custom_sea_level * 1024 / 100;
04:06:58 <Afdal> I:}?
04:07:24 <Afdal> @_@
04:07:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so 0 is 0 and 1024 is 100%
04:08:00 <Afdal> uhh...
04:08:20 <Afdal> @_@
04:09:23 <Eddi|zuHause> do i need to spell this out for you?
04:09:31 <Eddi|zuHause> have you skipped 5th grade maths?
04:10:11 <Afdal> Where are the numbers for Very Low, Low, and Medium???
04:11:00 <Afdal> oh are those Very Low to High?
04:11:18 <Afdal> so Very Low = 70/1024%?
04:11:29 <Afdal> 6.8%
04:12:48 <ChrisSawyer> Afdal, if i had to hire people to help code RCT in assembly, i would definitely not hire you
04:12:59 <Afdal> wow seriously
04:13:00 <ChrisSawyer> I made RCT all by myself, and now i'm a rich millionaire who doesn't care about anyone
04:13:19 <Afdal> excuse me for not immediately understanding a bunch of code jargon
04:13:29 <ChrisSawyer> I just lean back in my recliner and watch pay-to-view shows on my plasma TV while eating truffles and caviar
04:13:33 <ChrisSawyer> Screw OpenTTD
04:13:43 <Afdal> Also Chris why did you release Railroad Tycoon as "Transport Tycoon" for smartphone crap :'(
04:13:46 <ChrisSawyer> My buggy version of Transport Tycoon is far superior
04:14:04 <Ether_Man> Afdal, it's not him...
04:14:08 <Afdal> xd
04:14:21 <Eddi|zuHause> obvious troll is obvious
04:14:31 <Afdal> so 70, 170, 270, 420 = Very Low, Low, Medium, High?
04:14:48 <Ether_Man> The real Chris Sawyer lives in Scottland. ChrisSawyer is from the US.
04:15:42 * Afdal pokes Eddi|zuHause
04:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Afdal: presumably. but i have not actually read any of the surrounding code
04:16:24 <Afdal> hmm
04:16:26 <Afdal> well
04:16:29 <Afdal> thanks for the info
04:17:25 <ChrisSawyer> the OpenTTD has immortalized me and my contributions to the gaming world, but I take that for granted
04:17:29 <ChrisSawyer> Who wants to be immortal, anyway?
04:18:32 <Afdal> oh hey
04:18:36 <Afdal> I have some old notes here actually
04:18:39 <Afdal> hmm
04:19:23 <Afdal> according to someone else... the numbers are 20/1024, 80/1024, 250/1024, 400/1024
04:19:31 <Afdal> Think they got changed recently?
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04:21:39 <Eddi|zuHause> @commit 27228
04:21:39 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Commit by alberth :: r27228 trunk/src/tgp.cpp (2015-04-11 20:42:48 +0200 )
04:21:40 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: -Change: Slightly more water in the non-custom sea levels (chillcore)
04:22:05 <Eddi|zuHause> presumably part of the more height level tweaks
04:22:33 <Afdal> :o
04:22:35 <Afdal> I see :3
04:23:24 <Eddi|zuHause> these changes are probably not part of 1.5
04:24:39 <Afdal> what about 1.5.1?
04:25:10 <Eddi|zuHause> that means any 1.5.x (including future ones)
04:25:26 <Afdal> hmm
04:25:47 <Afdal> thanks
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09:53:31 <Alberth> meep meep
09:56:36 <Supercheese> doot doot
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10:09:30 <Wolf01> hi hi
10:13:31 <Alberth> o/
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13:16:45 <Wolf01> mmmh how do you shut up Cortana when she does not understand and lists all the softwares you have installed again and again and again... like a call center
13:18:08 <Alberth> ./install linux
13:23:17 <Alberth> may cause some collateral damage
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13:30:33 <Eddi|zuHause> you turn off all the spyware settings in windows, that shuts this off as well
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13:36:27 <Wolf01> meanwhile she shut down my audio completely
13:36:56 <Wolf01> she didn't like I closed her stuff
13:43:08 <frosch123> the longer you play factorio the more useless the minimap becomes
13:43:19 <frosch123> it is mostly red now
13:44:13 <Wolf01> I'm angry with that game, every time I try to defend a side there is a zerg swarm from the other side -.-
13:45:58 <Wolf01> and I need a train to get to the other side
13:52:23 <TrueBrain> moar laserssssszzzz
13:53:14 <Wolf01> yeah, I have something like 16 of them, and every time they fire I drain the energy from the future and the past at the same time
13:53:41 <Wolf01> even from other savegames
13:54:01 <TrueBrain> moar solaarrzzzzzz
13:54:13 <Wolf01> shit always happen at night
13:54:40 <Wolf01> and I don't have capacitors yet
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13:59:22 <Wolf01> mmmh, windows 10 seem to be like the overly attached girlfriend, it just suggested me to "click here to clean up the old windows version files"
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14:35:01 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/avLAg3M_460s.jpg which grf is this, I want it
14:38:21 <Alberth> reality.grf
14:39:35 <Alberth> V may have made it, judging by the colour use
14:39:43 <Wolf01> :)
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15:36:14 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, there definitely was a grassy tram grf
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16:05:38 <frosch123> hmm, you cannot put raw fish into a furnace
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16:06:45 <peter1138> You can
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16:32:36 <quinn> anyone?
16:32:49 <quinn> umm..
16:33:06 <frosch123> 130
16:33:40 <quinn> what?
16:33:41 <frosch123> about 110 or them idles who i cannot remember talking ever
16:33:55 <Taede> ello
16:33:59 <quinn> heyy
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19:18:22 <Swissfan91> Greetings everyone. I'm trying to upload something to BANANAS but I get an Unhandled Exception error when I press Upload New. Am I doing something wrong?
19:27:02 <Alberth> sounds likely
19:27:44 <Alberth> tried musa?
19:28:31 <Alberth> it's said to give better error messages
19:34:54 <Swissfan91> I'll give it a try!
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