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04:37:30  <kamnet> how goes it in your part of the world?
 
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06:21:12  <supermop_> pikka what's this secret 2005 pineapple?
 
06:36:33  <Pokka> olde pineapples? some bad newgrf from many years ago :)
 
06:37:55  <supermop_> small queenslanders
 
06:38:06  <Pokka> well, I have those in new pineapples also
 
06:40:45  <supermop_> starting to panic about not documenting enough houses before leaving here
 
06:41:13  <supermop_> i'd like to create a procedural melbourne terrace generator
 
06:41:41  <supermop_> either for 3d printing, or generative artwork/illustration
 
06:42:14  <supermop_> then maybe come up with a post-hoc architectural theory rationale behind it
 
06:43:53  <supermop_> i'd like a shirt that's just street after street after street of generative terraces in isometric or axonometric
 
06:44:30  <supermop_> also an aloha shirt with pineapples instead of pineapples
 
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07:55:21  <Pokka> I had been thinking about other merchandising for pineapples ;)
 
08:08:37  <supermop_> i mostly want the shirt for myself, but it would sell well amongst the australian expats on the lower east side in nyc
 
08:08:59  <supermop_> who tend to really play up australian pop culture
 
08:09:23  <supermop_> now as an aloha shirt it needs at least two images repeating
 
08:10:01  <supermop_> i was thinking an A$50 and a tram? or avocado?
 
08:10:36  <supermop_> or birds of paradise flower, as those seem to be all over the place in arangements down here
 
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09:38:03  <kamnet> Huh. neat. I've got an advertisement to try Windows 10 in my taskbar.
 
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09:58:41  <kamnet> I don't know if we all did or not. I dunno if my laptop is ready to be upgraded
 
10:03:38  <planetmaker> an no, I didn't get such advertisement ;)
 
10:04:09  <planetmaker> still shaky on the legs. Still feels like the waves rolling under them, even on solid ground ;)
 
10:04:30  <planetmaker> I need back the boat and the waves :P
 
10:06:06  <planetmaker> and what's been up here all time long?
 
10:15:08  <supermop_> at least i can get back to the warm hemisphere in a month
 
10:16:42  <planetmaker> hehe... I can't say that the weather on the Baltic Sea was warm either... around 10...15°C maximum. And much more rain than sun shine
 
10:22:32  <supermop_> well, hawaii in 40 days - just keep thinking that
 
10:29:31  <planetmaker> :) I don't dare sail that far accross the ocean (yet)
 
10:43:55  <supermop_> well i'll try going out on the the ocean in a very very small boat while i'm there
 
10:44:12  <supermop_> with just enough room to stand on
 
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16:52:38  <Alberth> we had one customer for you :p
 
16:58:17  * Taede takes the dust off the counter
 
16:59:38  <Alberth> weren't you busy writing a new grfmaker?
 
17:00:09  <Taede> soap is my only product
 
17:00:24  <Alberth> oh, I am mistaken then, sorry
 
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18:29:18  <Alberth> evenink planetmaker, welcome home :)
 
18:30:40  <planetmaker> thanks :) As nice as the trip has been, it's nice to be back
 
18:35:34  <Alberth> otherwise nobody would come home again :)
 
18:38:37  <peter1138> So do I want to upgrade to Windows 10... :p
 
18:40:06  <Taede> run a vm and see if you like it
 
18:40:21  <Taede> or a 2nd hdd you werent using anyway
 
18:42:09  <peter1138> Yeah, might image the disk before doing it :p
 
18:44:37  <andythenorth> will FIRS compile faster on Windows 10?
 
18:44:43  * andythenorth considers switching
 
18:47:04  <Alberth> it's more likely a matter of having decent hardware? :)
 
18:48:15  <Alberth> but personally, I give BSD much better chances of giving you the best performance
 
18:59:56  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: always assume that switching will make everything worse.
 
19:00:14  <Eddi|zuHause> no matter what you switch from or to.
 
19:01:05  <andythenorth> this attitude avoids disappointment
 
19:01:44  <Eddi|zuHause> i would never have switched to linux if my windows wasn't totally fucked up
 
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19:20:49  <frosch123> yay, a planetmaker !
 
19:23:55  <planetmaker> :) Blown back home by the winds :P
 
19:24:09  <planetmaker> or maybe washed back home by the rain. I guess I could choose :P
 
19:24:41  <frosch123> was there no option to sail with the sun wind?
 
19:26:43  <planetmaker> that proved not very successful on the Baltic Sea
 
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19:45:19  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27296 trunk/src/lang/estonian.txt (2015-06-01 19:45:13 +0200 )
 
19:45:20  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
 
19:45:21  <DorpsGek> estonian - 93 changes by Jaropower
 
19:45:27  <kamnet> I'm interested in upgrading to Windows 10. It claims to run much faster than Windows 7 or 8 on the same hardware.
 
19:46:30  <frosch123> every fresh installation of windows run faster than a old one
 
20:17:53  * LordAro has had an SSD sitting in his computer for a couple of months now
 
20:18:05  <LordAro> will probably put win10 on it
 
20:28:07  <__ln__> are you sure it's sitting and not lying?
 
20:37:09  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27297 /branches/1.5 (5 files in 3 dirs) (2015-06-01 20:37:06 +0200 )
 
20:37:10  <DorpsGek> [1.5] -Update: Documentation
 
20:38:39  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27298 /tags/1.5.1 (10 files in 4 dirs) (2015-06-01 20:38:36 +0200 )
 
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20:44:41  * andythenorth wonders if other makefiles have the same potential for speedup
 
20:44:45  <andythenorth> one way to find out...
 
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21:18:33  <andythenorth> hmm 2-3s faster on Iron Horse for ‘:=‘ instead of ‘?='
 
21:18:36  <andythenorth> not very interesting
 
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21:21:46  <Wolf01> mmh 256€ of a lego order, I have another 53€ of the mini cooper, there is still a little bit of tax refund I could use :P
 
21:23:29  <Wolf01> the benefits of 340€ of tax refund :D
 
21:23:55  <Wolf01> now that I got money too bad I don't have enough space
 
21:25:10  <__ln__> you know that tax refund is not actually a gift from the state, but your own money given back to you?
 
21:27:49  *** DorpsGek changes topic to "1.5.1 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: hg, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | Logs: @logs | #openttd.dev for dev-talk"
 
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21:30:33  <andythenorth> Wolf01: buy the new red cargo train?
 
21:31:03  <Wolf01> I'm not a train gui :/ not enough space, that's why I play ottd
 
21:31:15  <frosch123> or wait for the blue one, and get them in a bundle
 
21:33:21  <Wolf01> uhm, strange, the blue one is already available but the red one is not
 
21:36:29  * andythenorth has one floor of a three floor house stacked with lego
 
21:36:37  <frosch123> sometimes i think i lack an expensive hobby :p
 
21:36:39  * andythenorth knows when too much is too much :P
 
21:37:09  <andythenorth> computing used to be expensive :P
 
21:40:04  <Wolf01> it's strange, I have 2 internal drives C: and E: and D: is really the external drive which is always connected, I have F: too, while G: is the external dvd burner I purchased because I'm too lazy to mount an internal one
 
21:41:04  <V453000> I never actually used it on this pc I have for 2,5 years :D
 
21:45:05  <Wolf01> I used to have A: and B: on the good ol' times :P
 
21:46:03  <peter1138> B: was a 5.25" drive on my first PC :D
 
21:46:40  <Alberth> I mostly had /dev/fd0  :p
 
21:47:04  * andythenorth never actuall had A:
 
21:47:19  <andythenorth> or occasionally ADFS:1, if the machine was really shiny
 
21:47:32  <frosch123> anything about 360kB is a joke :p
 
21:47:59  <andythenorth> does OpenTTD fit on a floppy?
 
21:48:01  <peter1138> ADFS traitor... DFS was the one true filesystem.
 
21:48:10  <frosch123> andythenorth: it fits on a zipdisk :p
 
21:48:37  <Wolf01> I had a nice time with boot disks
 
21:53:33  <Wolf01> 1st place of wanted list
 
21:54:06  <frosch123> do you also have all the other weird lego games?
 
21:54:19  <frosch123> like lego potter and lego lotr
 
21:54:34  <Wolf01> yes, about all, I miss one or two of them
 
21:57:06  <Wolf01> I still have an old 386 with dos 6 or 7 and windows 3.11, but I installed so much ram, a good soundblaster 16 and a 40MB HDD that is not the same thing
 
22:22:08  <Alberth> haha, I had a 386 with 1.5GB disk :p
 
22:22:34  <andythenorth> that’s excessive :P
 
22:23:01  <andythenorth> what could you ever have done with it?
 
22:23:17  <andythenorth> also it must have cost about 3 months salary
 
22:23:28  <Alberth> I bought a 386 when the 486 just appeared
 
22:23:34  <Alberth> and installed Linux on it
 
22:23:41  <andythenorth> you could have stored *2 entire CD-ROMS on it* :O
 
22:24:02  <Alberth> I figured I needed some space, so added a 500MB disk, which was already big
 
22:24:20  <Alberth> didn't work, my flatmates filled it in a few weeks
 
22:24:35  <Alberth> so after some time I bought an extra disk, of 1GB.
 
22:24:42  <Alberth> was full in a few months
 
22:24:51  <andythenorth> ripping CDs to AIFF?
 
22:25:00  <andythenorth> you had a fast connection and it was warez? :P
 
22:25:05  <Alberth> nah, Internet from the uni
 
22:25:22  <peter1138> 1.5GB... rich kid :S
 
22:25:22  <Alberth> lots of free software in source form
 
22:25:37  <peter1138> We also had a 40MB, in the 386 era.
 
22:25:59  <Alberth> it was of course the most expensive part of the machine
 
22:27:02  <Alberth> I bought it just after the 386 era
 
22:27:15  <Alberth> so that's quite a few years later
 
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22:48:32  * frosch123 ponders reusing the rc1 topic for the release
 
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23:04:55  <Eddi|zuHause> my 386 had an 80MB and a 420MB disk
 
23:05:58  <Eddi|zuHause> <Alberth> was full in a few months <-- data acts like an ideal gas. available space will be filled immediately.
 
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23:08:51  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: andy hasn't left yet, so you can still talk to him
 
23:09:09  <Eddi|zuHause> what would be the point of that :p
 
23:09:24  <andythenorth> talk to pikka instead
 
23:14:05  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: it's not that i like to talk to andy when he's gone, it's that he always leaves immediately after posting a question
 
23:20:04  <andythenorth> well you need time to consider the answer :)
 
23:20:13  <andythenorth> there’s no point me sitting waiting ;)
 
23:26:07  <Eddi|zuHause> most of that time is usually me not noticing the question :p
 
23:26:52  <frosch123> i thought eddi might fear opposition, so only posts when noone is around of objecting
 
23:34:42  <andythenorth> implausible, but funny :)
 
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23:42:12  <Eddi|zuHause> well, if you fear opposition, you're probably in the wrong place anywhere on the internet :p
 
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