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00:11:01 <Wolf01> 'night
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03:07:14 <supermop_> yo
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04:27:20 <kamnet> Good morning Pikka
04:28:50 <Pikka> good afternoon kamnet
04:37:30 <kamnet> how goes it in your part of the world?
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04:39:17 <Pokka> It goes alright :)
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06:21:12 <supermop_> pikka what's this secret 2005 pineapple?
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06:36:33 <Pokka> olde pineapples? some bad newgrf from many years ago :)
06:37:41 <supermop_> looks cute
06:37:55 <supermop_> small queenslanders
06:37:55 <Pokka> haha
06:38:06 <Pokka> well, I have those in new pineapples also
06:38:10 <Pokka> :)
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06:40:45 <supermop_> starting to panic about not documenting enough houses before leaving here
06:41:13 <supermop_> i'd like to create a procedural melbourne terrace generator
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06:41:41 <supermop_> either for 3d printing, or generative artwork/illustration
06:42:14 <supermop_> then maybe come up with a post-hoc architectural theory rationale behind it
06:43:53 <supermop_> i'd like a shirt that's just street after street after street of generative terraces in isometric or axonometric
06:44:30 <supermop_> also an aloha shirt with pineapples instead of pineapples
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07:55:06 <Pokka> ooh
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07:55:21 <Pokka> I had been thinking about other merchandising for pineapples ;)
08:00:07 <V453000> SELL IT EVERYWHERE
08:08:37 <supermop_> i mostly want the shirt for myself, but it would sell well amongst the australian expats on the lower east side in nyc
08:08:59 <supermop_> who tend to really play up australian pop culture
08:09:23 <supermop_> now as an aloha shirt it needs at least two images repeating
08:10:01 <supermop_> i was thinking an A$50 and a tram? or avocado?
08:10:36 <supermop_> or birds of paradise flower, as those seem to be all over the place in arangements down here
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08:28:36 <andythenorth> o/
08:39:29 <kamnet> o\
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09:38:03 <kamnet> Huh. neat. I've got an advertisement to try Windows 10 in my taskbar.
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09:47:51 <planetmaker> moin
09:56:21 <Pikka> didn't we all
09:56:46 <Pikka> moin planetmaker
09:58:41 <kamnet> I don't know if we all did or not. I dunno if my laptop is ready to be upgraded
10:03:17 <planetmaker> ho ho Pikka :)
10:03:38 <planetmaker> an no, I didn't get such advertisement ;)
10:03:41 <V453000> wat up in da hood
10:04:09 <planetmaker> still shaky on the legs. Still feels like the waves rolling under them, even on solid ground ;)
10:04:30 <planetmaker> I need back the boat and the waves :P
10:06:06 <planetmaker> and what's been up here all time long?
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10:14:51 <supermop_> freezing in here
10:15:08 <supermop_> at least i can get back to the warm hemisphere in a month
10:16:42 <planetmaker> hehe... I can't say that the weather on the Baltic Sea was warm either... around 10...15°C maximum. And much more rain than sun shine
10:22:32 <supermop_> well, hawaii in 40 days - just keep thinking that
10:29:31 <planetmaker> :) I don't dare sail that far accross the ocean (yet)
10:43:22 <supermop_> hehe
10:43:55 <supermop_> well i'll try going out on the the ocean in a very very small boat while i'm there
10:44:12 <supermop_> with just enough room to stand on
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11:26:38 <kamnet> I miss my cat. :(
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16:51:28 <Taede> o/
16:52:27 <Alberth> moin
16:52:38 <Alberth> we had one customer for you :p
16:55:01 <andythenorth> :P
16:55:49 <Alberth> hi hi
16:58:04 <Taede> a customer?
16:58:17 * Taede takes the dust off the counter
16:59:38 <Alberth> weren't you busy writing a new grfmaker?
17:00:04 <Taede> me? no
17:00:09 <Taede> soap is my only product
17:00:24 <Alberth> oh, I am mistaken then, sorry
17:00:29 <Taede> no worries
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18:25:07 <planetmaker> good evening :)
18:29:18 <Alberth> evenink planetmaker, welcome home :)
18:30:40 <planetmaker> thanks :) As nice as the trip has been, it's nice to be back
18:35:34 <Alberth> otherwise nobody would come home again :)
18:38:12 <planetmaker> true
18:38:37 <peter1138> So do I want to upgrade to Windows 10... :p
18:39:55 <V453000> :)
18:40:06 <Taede> run a vm and see if you like it
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18:40:21 <Taede> or a 2nd hdd you werent using anyway
18:42:09 <peter1138> Yeah, might image the disk before doing it :p
18:44:37 <andythenorth> will FIRS compile faster on Windows 10?
18:44:43 * andythenorth considers switching
18:46:47 <planetmaker> tired of OSX?
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18:47:04 <Alberth> it's more likely a matter of having decent hardware? :)
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18:48:15 <Alberth> but personally, I give BSD much better chances of giving you the best performance
18:59:56 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: always assume that switching will make everything worse.
19:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause> no matter what you switch from or to.
19:01:05 <andythenorth> this attitude avoids disappointment
19:01:07 <andythenorth> I like it
19:01:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i would never have switched to linux if my windows wasn't totally fucked up
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19:19:31 <planetmaker> quak
19:20:49 <frosch123> yay, a planetmaker !
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19:23:55 <planetmaker> :) Blown back home by the winds :P
19:24:09 <planetmaker> or maybe washed back home by the rain. I guess I could choose :P
19:24:41 <frosch123> was there no option to sail with the sun wind?
19:26:43 <planetmaker> that proved not very successful on the Baltic Sea
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19:45:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27296 trunk/src/lang/estonian.txt (2015-06-01 19:45:13 +0200 )
19:45:20 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:45:21 <DorpsGek> estonian - 93 changes by Jaropower
19:45:27 <kamnet> I'm interested in upgrading to Windows 10. It claims to run much faster than Windows 7 or 8 on the same hardware.
19:46:30 <frosch123> every fresh installation of windows run faster than a old one
19:48:17 <V453000> :D
20:17:53 * LordAro has had an SSD sitting in his computer for a couple of months now
20:18:05 <LordAro> will probably put win10 on it
20:28:07 <__ln__> are you sure it's sitting and not lying?
20:37:09 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27297 /branches/1.5 (5 files in 3 dirs) (2015-06-01 20:37:06 +0200 )
20:37:10 <DorpsGek> [1.5] -Update: Documentation
20:38:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27298 /tags/1.5.1 (10 files in 4 dirs) (2015-06-01 20:38:36 +0200 )
20:38:40 <DorpsGek> -Release: 1.5.1
20:38:45 <Supercheese> zounds
20:40:23 <LordAro> :o
20:40:34 <__ln__> http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/rolling-stock/dsb-to-withdraw-ice-td-fleet-as-db-terminates-lease.html?channel=529
20:40:45 <LordAro> __ln__: fairly sure
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20:44:41 * andythenorth wonders if other makefiles have the same potential for speedup
20:44:45 <andythenorth> one way to find out...
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21:08:40 <Wolf01> hi hi
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21:18:33 <andythenorth> hmm 2-3s faster on Iron Horse for ‘:=‘ instead of ‘?='
21:18:36 <andythenorth> not very interesting
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21:21:46 <Wolf01> mmh 256€ of a lego order, I have another 53€ of the mini cooper, there is still a little bit of tax refund I could use :P
21:22:30 <andythenorth> :o
21:23:29 <Wolf01> the benefits of 340€ of tax refund :D
21:23:55 <Wolf01> now that I got money too bad I don't have enough space
21:25:10 <__ln__> you know that tax refund is not actually a gift from the state, but your own money given back to you?
21:27:17 <Wolf01> yes I do
21:27:49 <frosch123> @topic set 1 1.5.1
21:27:49 *** DorpsGek changes topic to "1.5.1 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: hg, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | Logs: @logs | #openttd.dev for dev-talk"
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21:30:16 <andythenorth> ‘free money’
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21:30:33 <andythenorth> Wolf01: buy the new red cargo train?
21:31:03 <Wolf01> I'm not a train gui :/ not enough space, that's why I play ottd
21:31:15 <frosch123> or wait for the blue one, and get them in a bundle
21:33:21 <Wolf01> uhm, strange, the blue one is already available but the red one is not
21:34:06 <Wolf01> if you mean this blue one http://shop.lego.com/en-IT/Cargo-Train-60052
21:35:51 <Wolf01> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxkllcas6nr8wp0/P_20150601_131615.jpg?dl=0 btw, look at what my friends just purchased at Billund
21:36:18 <andythenorth> too much
21:36:29 * andythenorth has one floor of a three floor house stacked with lego
21:36:37 <frosch123> sometimes i think i lack an expensive hobby :p
21:36:39 * andythenorth knows when too much is too much :P
21:36:59 <V453000> http://www.rouming.cz/upload/what_the_hell_does_she_want.jpg
21:37:00 <V453000> top class
21:37:09 <andythenorth> computing used to be expensive :P
21:37:24 <Wolf01> ahhah V :D
21:40:04 <Wolf01> it's strange, I have 2 internal drives C: and E: and D: is really the external drive which is always connected, I have F: too, while G: is the external dvd burner I purchased because I'm too lazy to mount an internal one
21:40:54 <V453000> my D is disk thingy
21:41:04 <V453000> I never actually used it on this pc I have for 2,5 years :D
21:44:29 * andythenorth misses A:
21:44:30 <andythenorth> :(
21:45:05 <Wolf01> I used to have A: and B: on the good ol' times :P
21:46:03 <peter1138> B: was a 5.25" drive on my first PC :D
21:46:40 <Alberth> I mostly had /dev/fd0 :p
21:47:04 * andythenorth never actuall had A:
21:47:08 <andythenorth> it was ADFS:0
21:47:19 <andythenorth> or occasionally ADFS:1, if the machine was really shiny
21:47:32 <frosch123> anything about 360kB is a joke :p
21:47:35 <frosch123> *above
21:47:59 <andythenorth> does OpenTTD fit on a floppy?
21:48:01 <peter1138> ADFS traitor... DFS was the one true filesystem.
21:48:10 <frosch123> andythenorth: it fits on a zipdisk :p
21:48:37 <Wolf01> I had a nice time with boot disks
21:48:55 <andythenorth> nostalgia :|
21:51:23 <peter1138> http://store.steampowered.com/app/332310/
21:51:25 <peter1138> Oh dear...
21:51:41 <Wolf01> the what?
21:53:33 <Wolf01> 1st place of wanted list
21:54:06 <frosch123> do you also have all the other weird lego games?
21:54:19 <frosch123> like lego potter and lego lotr
21:54:34 <Wolf01> yes, about all, I miss one or two of them
21:54:34 <peter1138> Nope.
21:57:06 <Wolf01> I still have an old 386 with dos 6 or 7 and windows 3.11, but I installed so much ram, a good soundblaster 16 and a 40MB HDD that is not the same thing
21:57:27 <Wolf01> too powerful
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22:22:08 <Alberth> haha, I had a 386 with 1.5GB disk :p
22:22:23 <andythenorth> nah
22:22:34 <andythenorth> that’s excessive :P
22:22:43 <Alberth> yep, it was
22:23:01 <andythenorth> what could you ever have done with it?
22:23:06 <andythenorth> :o
22:23:17 <andythenorth> also it must have cost about 3 months salary
22:23:28 <Alberth> I bought a 386 when the 486 just appeared
22:23:34 <Alberth> and installed Linux on it
22:23:41 <andythenorth> you could have stored *2 entire CD-ROMS on it* :O
22:24:02 <Alberth> I figured I needed some space, so added a 500MB disk, which was already big
22:24:20 <Alberth> didn't work, my flatmates filled it in a few weeks
22:24:35 <Alberth> so after some time I bought an extra disk, of 1GB.
22:24:42 <Alberth> was full in a few months
22:24:48 <Alberth> then I gave up :p
22:24:51 <andythenorth> ripping CDs to AIFF?
22:25:00 <andythenorth> you had a fast connection and it was warez? :P
22:25:05 <Alberth> nah, Internet from the uni
22:25:22 <peter1138> 1.5GB... rich kid :S
22:25:22 <Alberth> lots of free software in source form
22:25:37 <peter1138> We also had a 40MB, in the 386 era.
22:25:59 <Alberth> it was of course the most expensive part of the machine
22:27:02 <Alberth> I bought it just after the 386 era
22:27:15 <Alberth> so that's quite a few years later
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23:04:55 <Eddi|zuHause> my 386 had an 80MB and a 420MB disk
23:05:58 <Eddi|zuHause> <Alberth> was full in a few months <-- data acts like an ideal gas. available space will be filled immediately.
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23:08:51 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: andy hasn't left yet, so you can still talk to him
23:09:09 <Eddi|zuHause> what would be the point of that :p
23:09:24 <andythenorth> talk to pikka instead
23:09:37 <Pikka> why would you?
23:09:55 <andythenorth> well
23:14:05 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: it's not that i like to talk to andy when he's gone, it's that he always leaves immediately after posting a question
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23:20:04 <andythenorth> well you need time to consider the answer :)
23:20:13 <andythenorth> there’s no point me sitting waiting ;)
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23:26:07 <Eddi|zuHause> most of that time is usually me not noticing the question :p
23:26:52 <frosch123> i thought eddi might fear opposition, so only posts when noone is around of objecting
23:34:15 <andythenorth> he :)
23:34:42 <andythenorth> implausible, but funny :)
23:35:17 <andythenorth> also bye
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23:42:12 <Eddi|zuHause> well, if you fear opposition, you're probably in the wrong place anywhere on the internet :p
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