IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2014-08-11
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00:01:16 <Eddi|zuHause> but if you load a savegame, the value from cfg is ignored
00:25:02 <ATS63> Weird. Why would anyone just donate bitcoins for no reason? Because we're nice?
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01:43:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose even the most stupid of scams will find victims
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10:23:38 <Wolf01> mmh those stupid martens seem to have made a nest in my chimney, the noise is coming from here
10:24:15 <Wolf01> or at least, my chimney is amplifying all the noises, that's why I can hear it really loud in my room
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11:32:09 <Pikkaphone> what's the difference between a dog?
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12:00:28 <Wolf01> because dogs here bark loudly with many different voices, that noise is always the same, only changes the rythm
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12:13:29 <Wolf01> or it could be a pikka birds which is actracting a herd of perfectly normal beasts, you might know it
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13:12:19 <ATS63> weird... something I've never noticed before...
13:12:57 <ATS63> says on the Boeing 747 specs when you buy it "Upgrade: 747-400 (1989)"
13:13:10 <ATS63> except I can't figure out how to upgrade it :(
13:15:04 <ATS63> o right, nevermind, I found it... depends on the year built, but if I build one today, its the 747-400
13:15:30 <ATS63> I might turn down the autoreplace interval in that case
13:16:15 <Pikka> vehicle models changing stats
13:18:07 <ATS63> 747's, and many other aircraft, did infact do that
13:19:08 <Pikka> but in TTD, if you release a new "model", it should be a new vehicle. far less confusing, and allows the use of autoreplace etc to upgrade.
13:19:39 <ATS63> autorenew will do it anyway
13:20:11 <Pikka> sure, when it gets old. but you can autoreplace immediately, and autoreplace only within certain groups, etc.
13:21:05 <Pikka> there is a hysterical raisin why av8 and NARS have "generational" vehicles; the vehicle limit in TTDP. but now in OpenTTD there's no reason to do it at all.
13:24:34 <ATS63> hmm, fair... there are heaps of diffent types of aircraft already in av8 tho
13:24:58 <ATS63> although I only ever seem to use a few of them, nowhere near what it offers
13:26:15 <ATS63> I've never actually used autoreplace. Does it work with refitted vehicles too?
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13:45:02 <Pikka> although I only ever seem to use a few of them <- hence av9.8 ;)
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14:23:47 <ATS63> there isn't much documentation about that one
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15:29:32 <Wolf01> wtf, a game called OTTTD
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15:50:30 <peter1138> Over The Top Tower Defense?
15:53:50 <Wolf01> it might be that one, I didn't looked about it, but I read it's a tower defense in the description
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17:45:57 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26727 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2014-08-11 17:45:47 UTC)
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18:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause> # ihr seid so leise
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18:45:44 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: danmack was last seen in #openttd 5 days, 3 hours, and 51 seconds ago: <DanMacK> hmmm never thought of that
18:50:38 <Alberth> yeah "seen" actually means "spoke" :)
18:59:47 <Pikka> andythenorth, he was in a couple of hours ago
19:02:03 <andythenorth> they seek him here
19:02:05 <andythenorth> they seek him there
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19:06:10 <andythenorth> Pikka: also what ho?
19:06:31 <Pikka> so no excuse for not getting on with ships
19:06:49 <andythenorth> is that an electric GP38?
19:06:54 <andythenorth> there is something wrong with my eyes
19:07:01 <andythenorth> so maybe I mis-saw
19:07:09 <Pikka> well, they're all fictional, so... :)
19:07:41 <Pikka> hull shapes are hard though
19:07:53 <andythenorth> I did model a ship once
19:07:56 <andythenorth> about 18 years ago
19:07:56 <Pikka> also something about a uni assignment due on friday, so I'll have to do that at some point.
19:08:15 <andythenorth> excitingly I used Bryce 3D
19:08:24 <andythenorth> which is designed for modelling canyons, not ships
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19:15:09 <Eddi|zuHause> for sure canyons float on the earth's mantle
19:17:09 <Alberth> everything floats on it :)
19:17:31 <andythenorth> canyons are v shaped too
19:19:34 <planetmaker> boats come in round and v - shape. Depends ;)
19:19:36 <Eddi|zuHause> has anybody ever witnessed an actual conversation between dan and andy? it's always just "<A> @seen B" and "<B> @seen A"
19:19:45 <planetmaker> sea-faring usually only in v, though
19:19:50 <planetmaker> for the sake of a keel
19:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause> but you don't usually see the v part
19:20:52 <Eddi|zuHause> most of it is under water
19:21:46 <Alberth> but bits of you are sailing across the globe!
19:22:14 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: it tends to be on dm :)
19:22:34 <Alberth> bringing back exciting new stories and adventures :)
19:22:42 <andythenorth> it would be even noisier than usual if we talked in here
19:36:26 <andythenorth> river barges don’t change much :D
19:36:40 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, yeah... though that doesn't tell you anything about the shape. It only shows a face-on view of the deck :)
19:37:03 <NGC3982> All i can think of is that man's poor camera.
19:38:05 <andythenorth> now bloody names and stats and stuff
19:38:11 <andythenorth> really someone else should do all this for me
19:38:14 <planetmaker> hehe. Had that the other day. Like "here, please make a photo of us, too". *splash*. "Just pick it up and throw it back, we'll then pick it up again"
19:38:16 <andythenorth> can I outsource?
19:38:54 <planetmaker> you could outsource names
19:39:12 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i think there was also some photo with the boat upside down
19:39:28 <Pikka> outsource names, stats, graphics and coding
19:39:34 <Pikka> then you don't have to do anything!
19:41:05 <andythenorth> project management
19:41:09 <andythenorth> that needs doing
19:43:56 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, when we go sailing, we're required to wear life jackets... unlike those McAllister & Co ;)
19:44:40 <andythenorth> they don’t have to be Danube
19:44:44 <andythenorth> it’s just a name
19:44:52 <andythenorth> could be Elbe, Rhone, Rhine, Seine whatever
19:44:57 <andythenorth> just mainland Europe
19:45:11 <andythenorth> most of the names are glaciers or lakes, or tributaries of major rivers
19:47:00 <andythenorth> pretty much all barges or tugs, squat and low
19:49:26 <planetmaker> what's wrong with those ship names, andythenorth ?
19:49:50 <andythenorth> the DANUBE XYZ ones are a bit uninspiring...
19:50:09 <andythenorth> the rest are good
19:50:33 <andythenorth> ideally the names are mini easter eggs for anyone who can be bothered to wikipedia
19:50:33 <planetmaker> what's the two ship sections there anyway?
19:50:49 * andythenorth learns a lot while looking for vehicle names
19:50:55 <andythenorth> mostly about castles and bridges and stuff
19:51:46 <planetmaker> can you rephrase 'roaster' with synonym?
19:52:10 <andythenorth> gameplay equiv. of FIRS economies
19:52:13 <andythenorth> choose one for your game
19:52:24 <planetmaker> different spelling makes dictionary return results, too :)
19:52:30 <planetmaker> ok, it's a grf parameter then :)
19:52:33 <andythenorth> roasting is many other things :P
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20:08:22 <andythenorth> well I did scrap a lot of stuff
20:08:49 <andythenorth> which one did you drive?
20:09:30 <Pikka> sometimes the diesel MAN 18.310
20:09:55 <andythenorth> which is faster? o_O
20:09:55 <Pikka> and very occasionally the B10Ms, which is what I learned to drive in.
20:10:06 * andythenorth childish obsession with speed
20:10:31 <Pikka> as far as power goes, the scanias were useless
20:11:07 <Pikka> but they were 100 limited, the newer volvos are 90 limited
20:11:13 <Pikka> according to the sticker on the back, at least
20:12:11 <Pikka> of course, if it was raining and you got water in the speedo, it registered 100km/h when you were doing about 20. good times.
20:14:11 <Pikka> the scanias also occasionally exploded while being refueled, so that was also good.
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20:26:45 <NGC3982> You guys sound like the truckers i insure trucks for.
20:41:10 <planetmaker> hm... didn't expect to find this: "The only one I would like to keep is NUTS. I prefer gameplay to realism so for me NUTS is the most appealing"
20:41:29 <planetmaker> you must do something wrong, V453000 ;)
20:50:51 <Alberth> nah, it's the start of a revolution, even players start to realize gameplay is the only relevant cirterium :D
20:51:18 <frosch123> where did you find that?
20:51:22 <frosch123> i assume not on simuscape :p
20:52:03 <Zuu> Pikka: In Sweden all trucks are limited to 90 km/h. Buses just got their speed limit raised to 100 km/h (given that everyone has a seat belt).
20:52:34 <frosch123> here trucks are even limited to 80 km/h
20:52:35 <planetmaker> I found that on the reddit forums
20:52:57 <frosch123> ah, yes, reddit is quite nuts/yeti/redfish
20:53:46 <frosch123> i guess they are a little younger and more openminded than the usual grandpas around tt
20:55:26 <andythenorth> probably less “I like trains"
20:56:51 <Pikka> trains are alright, I suppose
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21:05:48 <Pikka> they should totally drop NARS and UKRS
21:05:53 <Pikka> everyone should drop NARS and UKRS
21:06:34 <andythenorth> I ran over them with a horse
21:07:18 <andythenorth> NARS 2 is lovelys
21:09:13 <Zuu> Different than default, but still not insane amount of choices as in 2CC.
21:09:42 <Pikka> too many bad features though
21:10:08 <Pikka> and nars 2 has regearing, not lovelys at all
21:14:31 <andythenorth> oh I don’t listen to that
21:14:39 <andythenorth> I might even have broked it with FIRS
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