IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2014-06-23
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06:24:49 <supermop> what's a good irc client for android?
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12:11:25 <DigitalFox> Hello, good morning! :)
12:20:02 <peter1139> What am I looking at?
12:22:58 <DigitalFox> A simple tutorial on how to make GRF Separators, nothing breathtaking :)
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12:33:16 <planetmaker> why did I read that as "bottletesting"?
12:33:26 * planetmaker goes and makes more tea
12:37:57 <peter1139> Not sure what I need GRF Separators for.
12:38:50 <V453000> it looks ogranized peter1139, but it isnt really useful
12:39:25 <V453000> I still think that "using newGRF for everything is a must" is not the best approach though
12:39:44 <V453000> which these separators usually come out of
12:40:09 <planetmaker> it's mostly useful when you don't know OpenTTD's filtering option for the grf list
12:41:48 <planetmaker> otherwise they make game exchange only more hasslesome. As one needs those very newgrfs as well in order to load savegames which use it
12:42:15 <Diablo-D3> so will openttd ever have autodownload from bananna?
12:43:06 <V453000> well if it is on bananas, it is ok
12:43:15 <planetmaker> maybe. But that does not add a single yota to the solution of the issue I just mentioned
12:43:41 <Diablo-D3> no, I was just asking
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12:44:37 <planetmaker> no-one knows the future. So who can tell?
12:44:53 <Diablo-D3> btw, does btpro.nl have an irc channel on this network?
12:45:23 <peter1139> btpro.nl looks like a domain name to me.
12:46:04 <peter1139> Ah look, there's a website there, with contact details on it.
12:46:29 <Diablo-D3> meh, its some weirdo irc channel
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13:30:20 <NGC982_> I think i need help to understand this
13:30:44 <NGC982_> I want an order that skips the current order and does something else when reliability is lower than 65.
13:30:58 <NGC982_> I thought i did it right, but it seems i did not.
13:31:34 <peter1139> I see the problem. It's in a funny language.
13:34:19 <planetmaker> NGC982_, it will work. But the check is only done once, when the conditional order is actually reached. When the reliability after it was considered drops, the next order is still executed
13:35:35 <planetmaker> so your vehicle had a reliability of >=65 when the check was done, pretty sure. But then drove around long enough to loose another 10%
13:36:21 <peter1139> What do the conditional orders do?
13:36:38 <peter1139> In this instance, obviously.
13:36:48 <peter1139> I kinda wasn't joking about the langauge :p
13:37:08 <planetmaker> if reliability <= 65 goto order XY
13:37:19 <planetmaker> and the order XY is goto nearest depot
13:37:33 <peter1139> Why would you use conditional orders for that?
13:37:35 <planetmaker> that's my interpretation without being able to speak finnish
13:37:43 <planetmaker> maybe it's a fixed depot. dunno :)
13:38:12 <peter1139> Vehicles already go to a depot when they need to...
13:38:27 <planetmaker> they should, indeed
13:40:29 <V453000> it has some uses, for example if you make an impossible conditional, the vehicle will never go to depot because it has it fulfilled in the depot already ... which can be useful for autoreplacing - trains autoreplace only when you force them to a depot; which gives you a lot of control ... not particularly good for road vehicles :D
13:41:05 <planetmaker> lol. But indeed, you can play the order system like that
13:41:40 <V453000> I still think it is better to simply put your depots in the right places, but well in some specific case it might be reasonable
13:42:21 <peter1139> If you need a specific depot, then you can use the service at depot order item.
13:43:10 <V453000> that is pretty bad as you can accidentally remove that depot at any point in the game
13:43:18 <V453000> waypoint -> go to nearest depot works better
13:43:43 <V453000> but even that is just pointless extra effort
13:43:47 <peter1139> then you get invalid order warnings
13:44:03 <V453000> why would you get invalid order warning
14:25:04 <peter1139> If the depot was removed...
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16:50:50 <V453000> OzTrans loves me too (: I think we will get married
17:01:42 <peter1139> Gosh, bold and capitals...
17:03:38 <V453000> that is pure love peter1139 , you wouldnt understand
17:06:47 * Alberth is glad not to understand that
17:07:29 <V453000> unfortunately for you Alberth, you do understand it
17:13:07 <Alberth> it's mostly a waste of letters, imho
17:13:31 <V453000> that I am very aware of, I just let him eat his own shit
17:13:51 <V453000> thinking it is anyhow useful and/or going to convince him about anything would be plain utopistic
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17:26:56 <toobored`> I live in Greece and I had to reach the airport today (250km)... they have dismantled our train network completely
17:27:16 <toobored`> we used to have some intercity trains connecting us to the capital but now that's dysfunctional as well :(
17:45:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26662 trunk/src/lang/lithuanian.txt (2014-06-23 17:45:13 UTC)
17:45:20 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:21 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 40 changes by Stabilitronas
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18:44:55 <fonsinchen> Party on V453000, give those pesky Canadians what they deserve!
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18:47:17 <V453000> I just loved the part where he tells me I have no idea ... while I might not be the most experienced, still... :D
18:47:42 <V453000> I am still missing his "Greater reasons" though
18:58:46 <fonsinchen> Some people have just such immense egos that you cannot avoid bumping into them here and there.
18:59:53 <fonsinchen> I mean, such a fuss over a bunch of numbers without any actual problem sort of speaks for itself.
19:05:37 <planetmaker> why is that topic still alive? Just don't feed the trolls...
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19:15:30 <Alberth> andythenorth: seen my glitchy squid fish picture yesterday?
19:16:08 <andythenorth> is it on devzone? o_O
19:17:18 <Alberth> only seems to be happening when loading but not getting cargo
19:17:47 <Alberth> in this case cdist was recalculating new routes
19:18:18 <andythenorth> sprite’s too big
19:18:24 <andythenorth> happens in depots as well
19:18:32 <andythenorth> might be something else, dunno
19:19:38 <MTsPony> why does disablng full animations not affect grf animations?
19:30:27 <frosch123> because still noone got around to rename it to "palette animation"
19:31:10 <frosch123> just like noone managed to rename "full details" into "road and track borders"
19:31:19 <frosch123> but i guess, all names are stupid :p
19:31:33 <frosch123> removing them is likely the best solution :p
19:32:08 <andythenorth> move them to the invisibility palette
19:38:00 <MTsPony> thanks for the smartass response
19:39:05 <planetmaker> no point to become offensive. That's the actual answer. And NewGRFs use other animation
19:39:27 <MTsPony> sorry if it offended you
19:54:08 <andythenorth> he wasn’t offended :)
19:54:12 <andythenorth> just a factual answer :)
19:56:01 <andythenorth> wtf are these chrome notifications?
19:56:06 <andythenorth> I didn’t ask for these on my mac
19:56:10 <andythenorth> they just appeared
19:59:36 <andythenorth> I fear a world designed by google
19:59:55 <andythenorth> if the choice came down to ‘Google’, or ‘the Ghost of Steve Jobs'
20:00:03 <andythenorth> I’d pick the spectre every time
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20:33:24 <andythenorth> bloody autoreplace fail
20:33:27 <andythenorth> I’d forgotten about this
20:33:39 <andythenorth> I have fucked up Iron Horse somehow so that some vehicles won’t autoreplace
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20:41:44 <andythenorth> 50,000hp, 299mph, 50,000l pump
20:41:54 <andythenorth> or 60,000hp, 218mph, 60,000l
20:41:58 <andythenorth> such interesting choices :P
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20:50:21 <Alberth> use the insanely fast one :p
20:52:03 <andythenorth> V453000: this PIPE thing is still worth a look :P
20:52:11 <andythenorth> even if I have to help you with industries
20:53:42 <V453000> well I want no slavery, I will just need to put together 2 industries, rest is just copypaste more or less, I can do that :)
20:53:50 <V453000> but yeah I could draw some pipey thing
20:54:01 <andythenorth> maybe I just include it in Iron Horse :P
20:54:39 <V453000> I would just add it as a separate newGRF I think
20:56:15 <andythenorth> that would need a grfid
20:56:21 <andythenorth> grfids are scarce
20:57:38 <V453000> funnily enough my initials are VB, not HA which NUTS has :P
21:00:13 <andythenorth> you should have use LOL
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22:07:41 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: would you like to check my math? :p
22:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> so, OzTrans has violated the first rule of trolling. don't respond... (neither if you're the troll, nor if you are being trolled)
22:25:11 <Eddi|zuHause> and V453000 of course violates it as well immediately :p
22:25:53 <V453000> I am innocent on all levels
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