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06:10:23 <LSky`> morning
06:35:17 <planetmaker> moin
06:39:32 <V453000> moo
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12:45:05 <__ln__> https://www.portcullis-security.com/security-research-and-downloads/security-advisories/cve-2014-3445/
12:48:30 <planetmaker> Failure, wrong key. The right key is 5f17aca1ae2edea0f145e884116371a5
12:48:41 <planetmaker> ^ I call that an excellent password protection then ;)
12:49:24 <__ln__> it would be alarming if it were to accept the wrong key.
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13:21:09 <peter1139> Wow...
13:33:18 <Aristide> peter1139: HI :)
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13:48:11 <Eddi|zuHause> how long until i regret replying to NekoMaster?
13:49:20 <planetmaker> 3 - 2 - 1 - now?
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14:08:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Egypt: "Not enough people voted yet, we extend the voting period"
14:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> (and we start punishing people that don't vote)
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14:22:15 <V453000> 18% of people came to voting for european parliament btw :D
14:22:19 <V453000> in CZ
14:22:52 <Eddi|zuHause> who cares about those :p
14:23:22 <V453000> :)
14:23:39 <planetmaker> I was rather shoked to see that, V453000
14:24:24 <Eddi|zuHause> in slovakia it was 13%
14:24:55 <Eddi|zuHause> in germany it actually went up to 48% (from 43% last time)
14:25:09 <Eddi|zuHause> which is still a ridiculously low number
14:25:32 <V453000> nobody just gives a shit here
14:25:38 <planetmaker> maybe the better word is sad than shoked.
14:25:45 <V453000> :D myeah
14:26:34 <Eddi|zuHause> even the german constitutional court said something like "the EU parliament is not a real parliament, we don't need protection mechanisms like an entry barrier for marginal parties"
14:27:12 <Eddi|zuHause> in "normal" parliaments in germany a party needs at least 5% of the vote to get any seats at all
14:27:41 <Eddi|zuHause> for the EU parliament that limit was lowered to 3%, but even that limit was too high in the opinion of the court
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14:29:23 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/yeti/wiki/Wiki =D
14:30:32 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos wiki, its "cargos" and not "cargoes"
14:30:46 <planetmaker> wrong, Eddi|zuHause
14:31:00 <planetmaker> you're just americanized
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14:36:35 <Eddi|zuHause> or americanised?
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16:37:30 <kiike> hello everyone!
16:37:44 <kiike> just a quick question: is electric rail available in subtropical maps?
16:38:17 <Eddi|zuHause> not with the default vehicles
16:38:29 <kiike> i see, thank you Eddi|zuHause
16:38:45 <kiike> the subtropical map is my favorite one, that's why i ask
16:39:04 <Eddi|zuHause> if you use other vehicle sets, yes
16:39:13 <kiike> then i think i'll install some
16:39:18 <kiike> any personal recommendations, Eddi|zuHause?
16:39:26 <Eddi|zuHause> not really
16:40:47 <kiike> ok
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17:24:00 <Wolf01> ciao!
17:28:23 <Alberth> evenink
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17:45:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26620 /trunk/src/lang (russian.txt simplified_chinese.txt) (2014-05-28 17:45:13 UTC)
17:45:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:24 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 27 changes by chenwt0315
17:45:25 <DorpsGek> russian - 8 changes by Lone_Wolf
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18:18:04 <Alberth> o/
18:18:24 <andythenorth> lo
18:22:07 <Alberth> evenink
18:22:26 <andythenorth> anything? o_O
18:22:32 <Alberth> hmm, memory is awfully short tonight :)
18:22:47 <Alberth> been playing the game for a bit
18:23:27 * andythenorth had a game running
18:23:31 <andythenorth> where did it go? o_O
18:23:35 <andythenorth> oh, work happened
18:25:06 <Alberth> so, restart from last save?
18:25:48 <Alberth> or did you manage to hit F1 in time
18:26:35 <andythenorth> my game is here
18:26:42 <andythenorth> something was bugging me
18:26:44 <andythenorth> hmm
18:26:47 <andythenorth> building roads
18:26:50 <andythenorth> managing consists
18:26:53 <andythenorth> both boring busy work
18:26:58 <andythenorth> oh and IH is totally stupid
18:27:09 <Alberth> it is? :(
18:27:37 <andythenorth> if you want to delete a train (just one vehicle) from depot, the drag target has to hit the very first vehicle in the articulated consist
18:27:48 <andythenorth> which can often be 1/8 or 2/8 long
18:28:02 <andythenorth> but the sprite is 6/8 or 8/8 or whatever
18:28:09 <andythenorth> so it looks like you screwed up
18:28:22 <andythenorth> stupid stupid stupid
18:28:34 <Alberth> I have that problem often with ships
18:28:42 <Alberth> and aircraft
18:28:59 <andythenorth> ships are really poor for it
18:29:03 <Alberth> where you don't get any feedback that you are hovering above the target
18:29:19 <andythenorth> interestingly, if you use the ‘delete all trailing vehicles’ option in train depot, the problem disappears
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18:29:33 <andythenorth> one is clearly more strict about trailing parts than the other
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18:30:23 <Alberth> making them operate the same way would be too obvious of course :)
18:31:16 <andythenorth> hysterical raisins, no?
18:31:35 <Alberth> no idea, never touched that part of the code
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19:19:23 <Alberth> wb
19:21:20 <andythenorth> interruptions
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19:36:10 <Wolf01> http://englishrussia.com/2014/05/08/soviet-magnetic-levitation-train/#more-146660 could this be refitted to standard maglev tracks?
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19:39:31 <Alberth> no doubt it can, at least in OpenTTD :)
19:40:54 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on what you call "standard"
19:41:45 <Eddi|zuHause> in general, it looks closer to the german system (transrapid) than the japanese system (which the TTD maglev tracks are based on)
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20:50:47 <Sacro> http://i.imgur.com/Js7nS5o.jpg
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21:49:49 <planetmaker> good evening
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21:50:56 <ST2> evening :)
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22:10:23 <Eddi|zuHause> "The NSA says releasing records about Snowden's employment status "would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.""
22:12:02 <phmadore> lol
22:28:04 <Rubidium> you know that in the US corporations are seen as persons as well, right? So I guess they are saying it would invade the NSA's privacy too much
22:30:09 <Wolf01> 'night
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22:44:14 <phmadore> NSA is not a corporation
22:48:48 <Eddi|zuHause> are you sure?
22:49:54 <Eddi|zuHause> besides, in germany "freedom of information" requests, even for your own files, are frequently denied due to "3rd person privacy" and/or "trade secrets"
22:50:18 <Eddi|zuHause> like you can't get a list of calls you made, because it would invade the privacy of the persons you called
22:51:58 <Eddi|zuHause> or you can't get the conditions under which the water supply was outsourced to a corporation (that particular reject they overruled with a popular vote)
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23:06:39 <Rubidium> would be funny to see whether they will tell who your parents, spouse or children are
23:06:48 <Rubidium> I guess they wouldn't
23:06:56 <Rubidium> but then... what will they tell?
23:10:05 <Eddi|zuHause> well you can't get a fatherhood test without permission of the mother
23:11:13 <Rubidium> I think they should ask permission to me as well, after all... it's quite likely that the DNA of that person is quite similar to mine
23:11:52 <Eddi|zuHause> and even if you got one, the result won't matter if you're listed as father in the birth certificate
23:11:55 <Rubidium> even then... why do you need permission of only the mother? Why not need permission of the biological father?
23:12:30 <Eddi|zuHause> ... because gender bias is only bad when it's against women
23:12:56 <Rubidium> and who says that the person listed in the birth certificate is the actual biological mother?
23:15:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't matter either. once it's in the birth certificate, it's the law.
23:15:43 <Superuser> ya mum
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