IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2014-05-22
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06:01:01 <V453000> I disagree regardless
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09:14:52 <Youbi> Hello, I can’t play the game musics with OpenTTD 1.4.0 on SalixOS (Slackware based distro), I only have the sounds (like horns etc). I get an error on the command line:
09:15:08 <Youbi> "ALSA lib pcm.c:7843:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occured"
09:16:03 <Youbi> When I open the ingame jukebox, I see the track titles appearing quickly one by one, but no song is played.
09:16:11 <Youbi> Should I open a bug report ?
09:18:24 <LordAro> Youbi: do you have timidity installed?
09:18:31 <Youbi> Hum, going to check that.
09:18:53 <Youbi> I used the package manager of the distro to install openttd, so I’d think it would have installed it from me -_-
09:19:54 <LordAro> blame the maintainer :p
09:22:28 <Youbi> Are you bashing my lovely (beuah) country?
09:22:46 <NeuhNeuh> Youbi: I'm French :')
09:31:07 <NeuhNeuh> SNCF ? Source Nationale de Catastrophe Ferroviaire ( National Source of Rail Disaster )
09:34:02 <Youbi> I often take the train (~4 times a month), and my train is *always* late.
09:39:57 <NeuhNeuh> Youbi: I take only bus, tramway, trolleybus, or subway
09:40:36 <NeuhNeuh> Youbi: In live in Lyon ^^
09:47:30 <Youbi> I do prefer my bike, it’s quite faster than the tramway and I don’t have to wait.
09:50:55 <NeuhNeuh> Youbi: Yes but sleep on your bike is not very ... x)
09:51:27 <NeuhNeuh> Youbi: And here, I have 4 bus lines at my home (69, 37, C17, C26)
09:51:41 <NeuhNeuh> And C17 / C26 are hight frequency (8/10mn)
09:51:47 <NeuhNeuh> And 37 too (10/12 mn)
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09:52:10 <Youbi> Here in Nice, we do have a tram every 5 mn :Þ
09:52:38 <Youbi> Is there a way to get fonts bigger in openttd (jukebox fonts, vehicles profit description fonts, per example)
09:53:15 <NeuhNeuh> Youbi: Sorry I don't know
09:59:03 <Youbi> Don’t have any *_font setting nor misc category
09:59:20 <LordAro> i'd be surprised if you don't
10:00:32 <Youbi> oh. Well. I actually have a misc category /o\
10:00:58 <LordAro> ctrl+f is useful in these cases :p
10:01:33 <LordAro> the default font is a fixed size, so if you want to change the font size, you'll have to define a different font as well
10:02:00 <Youbi> (in vim it’s not ctrl+f :Þ)
10:02:06 <Youbi> (it was a Youbi problem)
10:06:36 <Youbi> Well, I’ve fixed my font problem \o/
10:07:24 <Youbi> Is it possible to turn the map while playing?
10:08:24 <LordAro> what do you think this is? locomotion? :p
10:08:31 <planetmaker> you could turn your monitor, though ;)
10:08:53 <V453000> I am actually considering to provide multiple rotations in yeti
10:08:56 <TinoDidriksen> You can turn the map in 90 degree intervals.
10:09:11 <planetmaker> TinoDidriksen, uhm no?
10:09:43 <LordAro> clearly someone should implement this feature
10:10:09 <V453000> -> make newgrfs have 4 times more size, require rotations :D
10:10:09 <TinoDidriksen> I thought for sure that was a feature. I guess I'm confusing it with SC2k.
10:10:10 <planetmaker> yes... Clearly someone should draw the required 3000 ... 4000 sprites first :)
10:10:30 <planetmaker> probably more like 3k than 4k. Don't remember. I once did the math
10:10:33 <Youbi> Well, transparency is quite handy for now, when buildings hide something I want to see, but turning the map would be best.
10:10:38 <LordAro> planetmaker: quite :p
10:10:54 <TinoDidriksen> No need for new sprites for 90d rotations. You can trick that with mirroring.
10:10:55 <planetmaker> not to speak of breaking all industry and house and station grfs
10:11:02 <planetmaker> TinoDidriksen, no, you can't
10:11:05 <LordAro> V453000: since everything's rendered 32bpp sprites now, i don't see how that matters :p
10:11:12 <planetmaker> give it a try and you'll quickly find out
10:11:43 <V453000> LordAro: e.g. my industry set is probably going to have like 1gb or more already
10:12:03 <planetmaker> anyway, ice cream time
10:12:03 <V453000> and that is just 16 industries with nice animation
10:13:02 <V453000> obviously, having 100 frame long animation is considerably different from other openttd animations
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10:33:52 <NeuhNeuh> Lol Youbi I have take many videos in bus x)
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11:13:26 <dihedral> I thought it had a similarity at least :-D
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11:17:04 <V453000> I cant imagine anybody similar to this
11:24:17 * planetmaker is also clueless as to whom imagines to refer to :)
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11:40:53 <dihedral> i thought there was some resemblance with Rubidium :-P
11:42:52 <planetmaker> that resembles him as much as a pear resembles an apple. IMHO
11:43:43 <dihedral> see, so there is some similarity
11:44:34 <planetmaker> bad selfie, btw :P
11:59:33 <peter1139> Nice wide streets there, in that video...
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12:21:28 <Youbi> Is it possible to share an airport with another company?
12:21:35 <Youbi> In multiplayer (obviously)
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12:33:52 <Eddi|zuHause> only oil rigs are shared
13:03:10 <planetmaker> you can actually use oil rigs to transfer cargo to other companies. Fun ahead there :)
13:04:47 <dihedral> are there capacity limits? :-P
13:05:10 <Eddi|zuHause> there used to be a limit of cargo waiting at stations
13:05:18 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what happened to it
13:06:09 <planetmaker> I don't know of a limit. Sure, cargo starts to decay... but so what? :)
13:11:38 <Eddi|zuHause> it was something about a soft limit, where no cargo would be added from industires, and a hard limit where even transfer cargo would just be dropped
13:13:42 <planetmaker> probably like MAX_INT and MAX_UINT or so :)
13:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i remember it more in the order of 4k or 16k
13:31:59 <planetmaker> I've had large transfer stations with transiently > 30k waiting already
13:32:28 <planetmaker> the rating was abysmal, even though the individual passenger only waited way less than a game day
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14:03:51 <Pinkbeast> Simutrans has a limit which lets you gum up the network in _really_ exciting ways.
14:05:07 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: well if the limit still exists, it might now be per-link
14:31:07 <Youbi> Is it possible to allow a client, in multi-player mode, to pause the game?
14:31:40 <Youbi> Because I’m sometimes leaving a multi-player game I’m running with a friend, and I would allow hiw to pause the game.
14:35:05 <planetmaker> give him rcon access
14:35:25 <planetmaker> or set the min_active_clients to the number that it only unpauses when you two (or at least one) plays
14:40:11 <Youbi> Ok, I think I will do the first as we don’t log off the server.
14:41:27 <Guest11323> would it be a good idea to change the default acceleration models to 'realistic'? I keep seeing people having them on original and complaining about it
14:45:26 <Youbi> How can I give rcon access to a friend permanently?
14:45:45 <Youbi> To avoid him having to type the passwd each time he wants to pause the game.
14:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause> Guest11323: i suggested that years ago, when a bunch of default values were discussed, but it didn't make the cut.
14:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember the reason, though
14:47:31 <Guest11323> Youbi: IIRC, he can set up a shortcut containing the password
14:56:46 <planetmaker> Guest11253, I would argue that 'realistic' accel is the better default, yes. Maybe during the next settings revision :P
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15:22:02 <Guest11253> planetmaker: actually, guest11323, not me :P
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17:17:06 <rubenwardy> Incrediably unoptimised, because there is no waiting space
17:25:08 <Pinkbeast> _First_ junction? :-)
17:25:15 <Alberth> and too many tight corners
17:25:42 * Alberth never builds such symmetric junctions
17:26:02 <Pinkbeast> I haven't felt the need to do that sort of thing since PBS, to be honest.
17:26:24 <Alberth> my land is never that flat :)
17:27:22 <Pinkbeast> If I were doing that, I'd separate the tracks on the mainlines and do the right turns in the middle of the space thus opened.
17:28:16 <Pinkbeast> But these days I build Y junctions and flyovers when they get congested, no more.
17:29:54 <rubenwardy> First fully organised junction
17:32:21 <Alberth> making and fixing those is much more fun :)
17:32:38 <rubenwardy> I forgot to mark in the coal route
17:35:13 <rubenwardy> do i see a duck in that train?
17:36:35 <Alberth> I am told nuts has more ducks, but I haven't seen another one yet
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17:39:15 <Alberth> why does that train in the middle-bottom go under the bridge?
17:39:44 <Alberth> wouldn't it be easier to split to the other direction before the bridge?
17:40:55 <rubenwardy> True. I did it like that to tesselate with the other tracks, but that sounds more efficient
17:46:07 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26605 /trunk/src/lang (8 files) (2014-05-22 17:45:52 UTC)
17:46:08 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:46:09 <DorpsGek> dutch - 16 changes by habell
17:46:10 <DorpsGek> english_AU - 17 changes by mrtux
17:46:11 <DorpsGek> french - 17 changes by glx
17:46:12 <DorpsGek> german - 20 changes by planetmaker
17:46:13 <DorpsGek> italian - 17 changes by lorenzodv
17:46:14 <DorpsGek> korean - 22 changes by telk5093
17:46:15 <DorpsGek> russian - 1 changes by Lone_Wolf
17:46:16 <DorpsGek> slovak - 11 changes by Milsa
17:47:45 <Alberth> there are a lot of tight corners, trains move much faster if you avoid those
17:48:08 <Alberth> although close to a station it's not so bad, as they slow down anyway
18:04:27 <Alberth> as you can see, I rarely build with a plan, it's all just incremental fiddling until it works :)
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18:54:22 <Wolf01> I don't know, but this is wolf if you need one
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19:03:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26606 trunk/src/os/windows/win32.cpp (2014-05-22 19:03:14 UTC)
19:03:22 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6022]: Filename capitalisation (NG)
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