IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2014-03-17
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04:46:19 <Pikka> cheap at half the price
04:52:25 <Eddi|zuHause> now at score of 112988
04:52:58 <Pikka> I'm only playing it for the second time
04:53:14 <Pikka> got to 1024 and 6416 the first time
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06:27:35 <V453000> wat is the maximum (if any) length of an animation? for industries for example
06:31:09 <Flygon> Depends on if you rewrite the graphics rendering engine to support generating fractals on the fly
06:41:22 <Pikka> one should probably assume he doesn't
06:42:38 <Pikka> it's 128 frames for houses, 256 for industry tiles and practically unlimited for vehicles
06:44:18 <V453000> 256 sounds nice enough
06:44:32 <V453000> ... any idea about the animation speed?
06:44:38 <V453000> like frames per second?
06:45:13 <Supercheese> I think there's a global animation counter you can use
06:45:21 <Supercheese> so any integer multiple of its base unit
06:45:31 <Supercheese> if I'm not mistaken
06:47:20 <Pikka> "global animation counter" is a vehicle variable
06:47:57 <V453000> I know that one ... wondering about industries atm
06:49:45 <Pikka> industry tiles have the property "animation_info" and the variable "animation_frame", both a single byte
06:50:35 <Pikka> + the aforementioned animation_speed, and a callback to start or stop the animation
06:51:25 <Pikka> industries are a pain to code
06:51:38 <Pikka> the only thing worse is stations
06:51:50 <V453000> that I assumed so far :d
06:52:09 <V453000> might still give it a try :)
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11:07:41 <Xaroth|Work> LordAro: plz review my patch kthx
11:07:56 <LordAro> oh, it's better than just that :)
11:17:52 <Eddi|zuHause> why did you even reply to a random query?
11:20:30 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: because getting random queries is not something i'm used to
11:20:48 <LordAro> and judging by his attitude, "she" would've kept messaging me
11:24:35 <peter1139> why can't people take other people on face value about their gender?
11:24:57 <peter1139> it's only something that matters if you're getting in to bed with them.
11:26:23 <V453000> some "she" kinds apparently want to take advantage peter1139 :)
11:26:35 <V453000> e.g. sac not even being female
11:28:42 <V453000> it showed when she put DMCA complaint on my dropbox claiming to have the stolen trees there
11:29:12 <V453000> but who cares, I just found it interesting
11:29:35 <Pikka> is the right answer. :)
11:30:19 <peter1139> find it interesting all you like, that sort of accusation is unneeded and in some cases potentionally harmful
11:31:10 <Pikka> __ln___'s was the right answer, I meant. and yes, peter1139.
11:31:14 * LordAro puts stolen trees in his dropbox, to prove a point
11:31:56 <V453000> what strikes me is that anybody who just "claims" something without any reason can completely remove your whole dropbox just by one accusation
11:32:26 <peter1139> V453000, that's "DMCA" for you.
11:33:32 <Pinkbeast> Probably not just DMCA but that a cheap/free service can't spend any effort on wondering if you're in the right...
11:34:17 <LordAro> why didn't i hear about this before?
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11:37:27 <V453000> my specific case? I probably had no need to ventilate it and make a noise around it as I dont care :D
11:37:49 <LordAro> but you usually make noises about everything :p
11:37:58 <V453000> that isnt exactly true :)
11:42:08 <V453000> ok maybe about things that matter and "dudes" know shit about
11:42:11 <V453000> this matter doesnt :P
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12:02:07 <peter1139> They didn't use the i9 name in the end :p
12:04:27 <Xaroth|Work> depends on which i5 and which i7
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12:20:25 <Erdzengel> Hm... Im Using IRC my first time and its... terrible... but i need help about the Terms of Conditions. Who can help me?
12:20:48 <Xaroth|Work> what can possibly be requiring help with the T&C?
12:22:11 <Pikka> I guess we'll never know.
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12:23:06 <Erdzengel> I want to know, if it is possible to make screen captured Videos of the Game for Youtube and if i can monetize them?
12:23:27 <Erdzengel> Im sorry but IRC makes many problems on my System...
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12:24:03 <Erdzengel> Or maybe someone knows where i can find the Information about capturing?
12:24:15 <Xaroth|Work> I'm not at right to give that permission, so can't help you with that
12:24:33 <Erdzengel> Who has the rights?
12:24:43 <Xaroth|Work> that really depends who you ask
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15:08:08 <andythenorth> can have my life back
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16:32:42 <Eddi|zuHause> life is totally overrated
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17:33:39 <Eddi|zuHause> things that are overrated (according to grep): animations, comments, developing, employment, food, internets, life, money, nights, shutdowns, sleep, that, truth, university, work
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17:50:40 <frosch123> hmm, quite interesting log today
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18:01:22 <Eddi|zuHause> which animal makes bau bau in which country? :p
18:12:59 <Supercheese> Dogs go "bau bau" in Latin
18:13:27 <Supercheese> And cattle, well, still muuuuu
18:13:35 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately, latin is not a country.
18:13:49 <Supercheese> You know what I mean
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18:33:11 <Phreeze> that "work is ovverrated" has been said yesterday
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18:45:33 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26404 trunk/src/lang/unfinished/persian.txt (2014-03-17 18:45:11 UTC)
18:45:34 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:35 <DorpsGek> persian - 91 changes by rkarimabadi
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18:55:47 <Wolf01> oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to change the language processor :P
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19:31:54 <Phreeze> service sucks big a$$
19:35:54 <planetmaker> then let some steam off ;)
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19:53:36 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26405 branches/1.4/ (2014-03-17 19:53:30 UTC)
19:53:37 <DorpsGek> [1.4] -Branch: Less excuses to not do stuff in trunk.
19:57:04 <planetmaker> we have uncountable many
19:57:11 <planetmaker> even fractional ones
19:57:20 <planetmaker> and irrational as well
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20:02:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26406 /trunk (9 files in 6 dirs) (2014-03-17 20:02:30 UTC)
20:02:36 <DorpsGek> -Change: heading for 1.5 now
20:05:42 <andythenorth> not sure what to do now that 2048 is dead to me
20:05:44 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26407 /trunk/bin (9 files in 2 dirs) (2014-03-17 20:05:38 UTC)
20:05:45 <DorpsGek> -Fix: __ln__ never read the script compatibility files.
20:05:47 <andythenorth> I guess I have to write code
20:06:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26408 /trunk/bin/baseset (8 files) (2014-03-17 20:06:16 UTC)
20:06:23 <DorpsGek> -Update: Baseset translations.
20:07:39 <frosch123> andythenorth: ottd is dieing, there will be no more 1.4 nightlies!
20:16:11 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26409 /trunk (6 files in 6 dirs) (2014-03-17 20:16:05 UTC)
20:16:12 <DorpsGek> -Update: Version number in some more places.
20:28:54 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26410 /trunk/bin (4 files in 2 dirs) (2014-03-17 20:28:48 UTC)
20:28:55 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Missing svn properties
20:30:18 <andythenorth> "Farm tram" or "Agricultural tram"?
20:30:28 <andythenorth> the direct analogue is Feldbahn afaict
20:33:31 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r26411 /trunk/src/linkgraph (demands.cpp linkgraph.cpp) (2014-03-17 20:33:26 UTC)
20:33:32 <DorpsGek> -Change [FS#5941]: Use better distance metric for link graph (MildaIV)
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20:40:29 <planetmaker> andythenorth, 'Feldbahn' sounds military
20:40:43 <frosch123> Feldbahn is the correct term
20:40:54 <andythenorth> planetmaker: it definitely acquired military usage in WW1
20:40:59 <andythenorth> but it dates to 1870s or so
20:41:12 <andythenorth> most of the HEQS trams are feldbahn-ish
20:41:43 <planetmaker> I confess to not have heard that word so far. But I'll believe frosch :P
20:41:46 <andythenorth> the irony here is I need a reverse translation :)
20:42:06 <andythenorth> anyway, it's a tram for farms :)
20:42:07 <planetmaker> "country-side tram" would fit better
20:42:27 <andythenorth> AgriTram would be the modern brand name :P
20:42:38 <planetmaker> AgriTram [TM] :DD
20:42:52 <planetmaker> and soon people would call it AgroTram ;)
20:43:12 <andythenorth> AgroTram Dynamic Haulage System TM
20:43:14 <planetmaker> And paint fear-imposing faces in the front with grafities
20:43:24 <frosch123> planetmaker: google for Feldbahntreffen
20:43:36 <frosch123> it's like "Pfadfinder", just with trains
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20:46:04 <planetmaker> are you in one of those clubs? :D
20:47:20 <frosch123> but the friends of my sister are running one, where i was also around as child (about 10 years)
20:48:45 <andythenorth> that's close to something in HEQS :P
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20:51:23 <planetmaker> makes one wonder how many of those kind of vehicles are produced in that class :)
20:52:09 <frosch123> well, they are about the same as mining trains
20:52:10 <frosch123> same difference as with S and U bahn :p
20:52:50 <frosch123> (assuming you get the quote)
20:57:08 <frosch123> ubahn run under ground except where they run over bround; sbahn run over ground except where they run under ground
20:57:17 <frosch123> same as with feldbahn and grubenbahn
20:59:35 <frosch123> though maybe also mostly standing in the way (age 10)
20:59:55 <andythenorth> is that the Faller coal mine?
21:03:49 <frosch123> but well, those are only those which do not run, the rest is inside ofc
21:04:27 <andythenorth> glad I don't work down a mine
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21:06:54 <andythenorth> what is a 'SimCity 4' ?
21:07:22 <frosch123> it is said to be the best simcity so far
21:07:29 <frosch123> though i have not played it since 2000
21:07:59 <andythenorth> looks quite compelling
21:08:07 <andythenorth> I haven't played SimCity since 1994
21:08:34 <frosch123> "simcity 5" is considered weird or so, and the latest from last year is not even worth mentioning
21:11:53 <LordAro> note to self, don't click on the changeset for a branch
21:12:23 <frosch123> funnily ottd's changesets for tags or non-empty
21:12:26 <LordAro> not on hg.openttd.org ;)
21:12:46 <frosch123> what does it do? crash?
21:13:54 <frosch123> LordAro: i believe if you reverse that diff, you fix all bugs
21:15:09 <LordAro> anyway, this means an RC1 build is in progress?
21:16:03 <andythenorth> this newgrf compile is seriously slow :(
21:16:19 <andythenorth> 2s for templating just a few vehicles
21:16:31 <andythenorth> and at least another 1s to compile
21:16:47 <andythenorth> 9s in total in fact
21:18:25 <andythenorth> I need a faster computer
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21:44:04 <andythenorth> mail / valuables trucks should always be non-articulated?
22:02:42 <planetmaker> andythenorth, I sometimes see mail trucks with trailer. But for gameplay articulation is not needed, I guess
22:03:01 <planetmaker> Those mail trucks do the long-distance mail haul, though. On the motorway
22:03:12 <andythenorth> I have long distance trucks for mail ;)
22:03:16 <andythenorth> these are for town stuff
22:05:24 <andythenorth> 'Express Truck' or 'Mail Truck' ?
22:05:36 <andythenorth> refits mail, valuables, diamonds, gold etc
22:05:41 <andythenorth> maybe goods and food, maybe not
22:06:23 <planetmaker> +-0 on the refit options :) Food or goods might make sense, though. Houses accept it
22:06:45 <planetmaker> What about "Delivery Truck"?
22:08:57 <planetmaker> My mail man certainly doesn't deliver with an armoured truck my letters :P
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22:09:30 <planetmaker> tbh, one door always seems to miss from those UPS trucks
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22:10:21 <andythenorth> saves on the cost of a door
22:10:35 <planetmaker> all the armour would be wasted :P
22:11:35 <Endymion_Mallorn> Hey all, dumb question. NewGRFs for 1.3.3 can be copied from a Windows machine to a Linux machine and used without a problem, correct?
22:11:36 <andythenorth> I'll try Courier Truck and see if it looks odd
22:11:53 <planetmaker> Endymion_Mallorn, yes
22:12:38 <Endymion_Mallorn> planetmaker: Thanks. You just saved my LAN party :-P
22:13:22 <Endymion_Mallorn> Oh, btw, all you NewGRF makers - thanks! You really have changed my gaming pattern forever.
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22:24:50 <andythenorth> 'Tipper Truck' or 'Dump Truck' ?
22:25:01 <andythenorth> I guess en-GB and en-US for each
22:26:15 <planetmaker> dump truck is easier to understand. But that probably is just me
22:26:32 <planetmaker> 'Muldenkipper' :)
22:27:14 <andythenorth> that's a Mining Truck :)
22:27:23 <andythenorth> also dump truck :P
22:27:37 <andythenorth> English is probably, on average, less precise than German
22:32:37 <planetmaker> wonder how they managed *that*
22:33:08 <planetmaker> that's a 'muldenkipper', yes. Did you mean something else?
22:36:34 <planetmaker> Kippwagen or Kipplaster then
22:37:16 <planetmaker> dict.cc seems to offer tipper truck <--> Kippwagen and dump truck <--> Muldenkipper
22:39:02 <planetmaker> getting these names right is already difficult in the native language :)
23:02:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't use "-wagen" for a truck
23:03:30 <Eddi|zuHause> althoug technically both "Laster" and "Wagen" could be short for "Lastkraftwagen" ("LKW")
23:04:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd rather use "-laster" instead of "-wagen"
23:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln___: i think that's way eaaier
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