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17:10:39 <RavenlStl> Hey everybody. I've got pretty dumb question but is it any way of changing newgrf list in created scenario?
17:10:50 <gynter> no
17:11:03 <RavenlStl> you killing me
17:11:09 <Supercheese> No officially supported way, you can do it but only if absolutely necessary
17:11:18 <gynter> but it usually breaks things a lot
17:11:23 <planetmaker> there's the scenario_developer setting
17:11:23 <Supercheese> yep
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17:11:48 <RavenlStl> it is, i understand what can happen & i'll back up
17:11:48 <planetmaker> use with caution. And be prepared that your scenario is more screwed than before. As ^ said
17:12:18 <planetmaker> I'd recommend to not even try to touch anything related to industries
17:12:26 <planetmaker> the failure there is nearly 100%
17:12:34 <RavenlStl> it is trams
17:12:51 <RavenlStl> and i want to change eGRVTS to EeGRVTS2
17:12:52 <planetmaker> open console. enter set scenario_developer 1
17:13:26 <planetmaker> removing a NewGRF is not without issue
17:13:46 <planetmaker> changing means removing and adding. Thus...
17:15:01 <Supercheese> in newgrf utopia, changing eGRVTS1 to 2 would simply disable all 1 vehicles by changing their climate_available to none, and then add the 2 vehicles
17:15:21 <Supercheese> still that may have issues
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17:15:49 <RavenlStl> seems to be working, trying to loan a game
17:15:52 <Supercheese> although if it's a scenario and no companies or vehicles are yet created, I'm not sure if there'd be any difference
17:16:03 <planetmaker> 'seems' is nice... but many things seem to work.
17:16:09 <planetmaker> until you played a few game years :-)
17:16:47 <planetmaker> but chances are that it indeed works. but who knows... changing newgrfs is like changing the engine of a car while driving
17:17:27 <Supercheese> the only newgrf changes I consider 'safe' are upgrading from an earlier version of a newgrf to a current version when the min_compatible_version allows upgrading
17:18:04 <Supercheese> which usually means the newgrf author is confident that the updates won't bork the game, but even then they may not be correct
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17:18:55 <planetmaker> :-)
17:19:24 <RavenlStl> thx for help, i just cross fingers for luck & try to play, cause recreating this scenario in 6th time is absolutely the disaster
17:19:59 <Supercheese> You could offer to pay dev(s) to work on the extended scenario format ;)
17:20:55 <planetmaker> that format would be most welcome, yes
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17:45:17 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25895 trunk/src/lang/ukrainian.txt (2013-10-21 17:45:10 UTC)
17:45:18 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:19 <DorpsGek> ukrainian - 3 changes by Strategy
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18:35:53 <frosch123> where is the "shortlog" button on github?
18:37:31 <frosch123> ah, i need to click on the "10000+ commits" button
18:37:37 <frosch123> how logical
18:38:36 <Alberth> so this would only work for repos with 10K+ revisions? :)
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19:23:11 <andythenorth> o/
19:23:26 <andythenorth> what is up?
19:24:26 <Alberth> nothing much
19:29:29 * andythenorth goes back to work in that case :)
19:29:38 <andythenorth> haven't played the game for months :P
19:29:43 <andythenorth> except with child #1
19:31:08 <Alberth> sorry, can't help you with that
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19:53:06 <andythenorth> Alberth: so does eints track any stats?
19:53:21 <andythenorth> number of contributors, number of edits, number of translations etc?
19:53:45 <Alberth> not really
19:54:00 <andythenorth> might be fun?
19:54:03 <andythenorth> or don't care really?
19:54:06 <Alberth> oh, I added a few FIRS commits yesterday
19:54:30 <andythenorth> I'll pull, and wait an age for it to build :P
19:54:54 <frosch123> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/users/2064 <- andythenorth: redmine collects stats
19:54:57 <Alberth> russian language fix, adding traditional chineese, and 2 plural fixes
19:55:46 <andythenorth> so it does :)
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20:45:21 <andythenorth> bye
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20:51:07 <frosch123> night
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21:18:43 <Wolf01> 'night
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21:19:38 <LordAro> /o zeknurn
21:19:43 <LordAro> /o Zuu, even
21:19:56 <Zuu> hello
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21:23:08 <Xaroth|Work> LordAro: poor zeknurn will be all like "OMG I GOT GREETED TO BY LordAro" .. to then realise it was just a typo
21:23:29 <LordAro> and now you too Xaroth|Work :p
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21:23:43 <Xaroth|Work> yeah, but I'm known to troll :P
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22:31:44 <__ln__> нигьхт алл
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22:34:54 <NGC3982> Yes, indeed.
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