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04:56:55 <maddy_> morning folks
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05:32:37 <planetmaker> moin
05:39:15 <maddy_> 4
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06:29:24 <maddy_> did anyone try my patch yet?
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07:00:23 <dihedral> good morning
07:02:36 <maddy_> morning
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07:15:42 <LordAro> /o
07:20:00 <LordAro> i'm doing something wrong with extern, can someone tell me what? :L http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2533/
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07:24:23 <planetmaker> maddy_, I didn't have time to actually test it, it looks very clean. There are few places where even a few more doxygen comments would be handy (rail_map.h, logic_signals.cpp).
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07:29:38 <maddy_> planetmaker: ok, thanks for the tips
07:30:15 <planetmaker> from first-time patches it's as well-documented though as I've seen so far :-)
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07:35:50 <dihedral> planetmaker, that is the 'initial effort'
07:35:51 <dihedral> :P
07:37:36 <peter1138> hi
07:37:51 <peter1138> Can I go back to bed?
07:39:23 <maddy_> peter1138: go ahead
07:39:53 <peter1138> \o/
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09:59:40 * LordAro pokes a random online dev http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2533/
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10:47:05 <Rubidium> LordAro: what if the news caused the crash?
10:47:47 <Rubidium> also... returning stuff on the stack is bad
10:47:59 <LordAro> yeah, still getting that warning
10:48:13 <LordAro> along with my misuse of extern
10:48:18 <LordAro> not sure what to do about it though
10:49:15 <LordAro> s/misuse/wrong use/ :L
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10:52:20 <LordAro> although, personally i think all of news_gui.cpp needs refactoring
10:52:29 <LordAro> lots of non-gui (window) stuff in there
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10:58:49 <LordAro> Rubidium: any clues for me regarding the extern?
10:58:59 <LordAro> or your other points, for that matter
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11:43:35 <DanMacK> Hello all
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11:54:03 <Lakie> Hi DanMacK.
11:54:21 <DanMacK> Hey Lakie, LTNS
11:54:36 <Lakie> Yeah, I know...
11:55:03 <Lakie> Good work on the new Finnish steamer sprites. :)
11:55:19 <DanMacK> ty
11:56:31 <Lakie> Nice to see that project developing and playable, heh.
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11:59:03 <DanMacK> yeah
11:59:14 <DanMacK> Speaking of the FTS... Hey Oskari :P
11:59:48 <Lakie> Heh.
12:00:20 <oskari89> DanMacK: Hello, and Lakie: Hello to you too, long time no see :P
12:00:23 <oskari89> :)
12:01:05 <Lakie> Hi / Bye, going shopping...
12:01:23 <Lakie> (Convention tomorrow you see).
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12:35:01 <planetmaker> calc 2**16
12:35:06 <planetmaker> @calc 2**16
12:35:06 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 65536
12:37:04 <LordAro> you needed a calculator for that? :p
12:37:50 <__ln__> @calc 1<<15
12:37:50 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
12:38:33 <planetmaker> 1<<15 works so badly in bash ;-)
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12:44:50 <Belugas> hello
12:46:01 <LordAro> /o
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14:13:51 <maddy_> tt-forums has been pretty slow lately
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14:14:54 <DanMacK> hey alluke
14:15:11 <alluke> hi dan
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14:29:55 <LordAro> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2534/ <-- "undefined reference to _<...>_news" i don't like externs, can someone give me an idea what i'm doing wrong?
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15:02:21 <Eddi|zuHause> just include the appropriate header file?
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15:18:13 <LordAro> i have, as far as i can tell
15:19:19 <LordAro> in fact, i'm sure of it
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15:31:07 <maddy_> it's hard to find an error in a long paste like that without reading it thoroughly
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15:35:05 <planetmaker> hm, that's a first... "i have a good english do you need someone to translate to $LANGUAGE ?
15:35:07 <planetmaker> and does it for free or i get paid ?"
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15:41:36 <Terkhen> hello
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15:54:47 <planetmaker> hi Terkhen
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16:23:59 <alluke> planetmaker: whats with the snowy coasts?
16:24:28 <planetmaker> not working
16:24:42 <alluke> why?
16:24:44 <planetmaker> I could add a switch that coasts are displayed snowy. But then always
16:24:54 <planetmaker> because. because no-one made it so?
16:25:13 <peter1138> LOL @ GTA IV
16:25:15 <alluke> do the graphics exist?
16:25:25 <planetmaker> no. yes.
16:25:30 <peter1138> It won't let me configure the graphics because it thinks my can't isn't good enough.
16:25:52 <planetmaker> I do have all graphics for OpenGFX
16:26:00 <planetmaker> they're rather easily generated
16:26:24 <planetmaker> doesn't make the TTD or zBase graphics appear all of a sudden though :-)
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16:31:06 <alluke> seaside buoys dont have snow effect when snowline is 0
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16:31:38 <planetmaker> snowline 0 means level of the land
16:31:46 <planetmaker> I think
16:32:04 <alluke> seems
16:32:24 <alluke> need to add -1 to get it to sea level
16:32:48 <alluke> and cover the holes in the snow on 0-level
16:33:44 <alluke> coast trees are green too
16:34:45 <Supercheese> grfspecs wiki is being very slow
16:35:08 <alluke> tt-forums too
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16:37:47 <LordAro> /o
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16:44:33 <Supercheese> Hey, it's spritemaster DanMacK
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16:50:27 <DanMacK> heh, wouldn't go that far :P
16:50:44 <Supercheese> Well, I really like your sprites anyway :)
16:56:37 <DanMacK> ty
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17:32:18 <Wolf01> evening
17:35:22 <LordAro> /o
17:38:37 <maddy_> anyone else play a lot more temperate than arctic or desert because the landscape just looks better?
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17:45:10 <frosch123> no, temperate got boring
17:46:05 <frosch123> i played temperate in the past mostly, because it was the only climate with a tertiary industry
17:46:19 <frosch123> but that criterion is obsolete these days
17:48:50 <V453000> frosch and paper? :P
17:49:29 <Belugas> frosch and Lego?
17:50:37 <maddy_> I would like FIRS, but I don't like delivering supplies to industries in small chunks (by using a truck or something)
17:52:31 <frosch123> V453000: hmm, good point
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17:56:30 <DanMacK> Supplies isn't imperitive
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18:34:16 <juzza1> anyone know a decent way to estimate steam engine HP (for newgrf purposes) if the weight, speed and tractive effort values are known?
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18:38:52 <V453000> testing / experience from testing
18:40:56 <andythenorth> bonsoir
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18:42:00 <LordAro> "There are 2 hard problems in computer science: caching, naming, and off-by-1 errors."
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18:59:16 <frosch123> juzza1: iirc there is a very long sticky topic in newgrf dev forum
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19:20:58 <juzza1> ok, will check that
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19:57:30 <andythenorth> quiet eh?
19:58:58 <LordAro> yup
20:20:47 <Belugas> [14:41] <LordAro> "There are 2 hard problems in computer science: caching, naming, and off-by-1 errors." <-- you can had stupid, bring, useless and long meetings :P
20:20:57 <Belugas> <boring>
20:21:12 <LordAro> :D
20:21:29 <frosch123> yeah, meetings are the biggest problem in general
20:21:38 * andythenorth likes meetings
20:22:01 <V453000> I dont think they mean alcohol apocalypse-style meetings andythenorth
20:22:08 <andythenorth> oh :(
20:22:14 <V453000> indeed :(
20:22:19 <andythenorth> all our best meetings happen in the pub
20:22:29 <V453000> pure coincidence
20:22:45 <andythenorth> correlation != causation
20:24:23 <andythenorth> meetings are where I get to do management
20:24:33 <andythenorth> how else do I validate my existence, if not by meetings?
20:25:19 <Alberth> pay salary of employees?
20:25:19 <V453000> well I do some serious management on such meetings too
20:25:37 <V453000> like managing to count amount of beer
20:26:10 <Alberth> and not running out of the gold stuff :)
20:26:44 <frosch123> V453000: managing what? your countenance?
20:26:45 <alluke> whos the first to pass out in the meetings
20:27:00 <V453000> managing everything
20:29:26 * Belugas prefers meetings under a green and white tent, with geeks and beer
20:29:30 <Belugas> and smokes...
20:30:08 * LordAro suspects Belugas is referencing a recent event...
20:30:18 <Belugas> me?? naaah...
20:30:27 <LordAro> ... but cannot confirm, as i haven't seen any pictures :p
20:30:29 <Belugas> [16:26] <alluke> whos the first to pass out in the meetings <-- that was me!
20:30:55 <frosch123> LordAro: when you get older stuff can appear recent even if it is ten years ago :p
20:31:17 <LordAro> D:
20:33:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember any secret meeting
20:34:39 <Alberth> too much beer? :)
20:34:59 <Alberth> or you failed to notice the secret meeting in the meeting :)
20:35:08 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: meetings were you slaughter unicorns and eat them together, must be kept secret!
20:35:34 <frosch123> +h
20:36:55 <andythenorth> unicorn pie
20:37:11 <andythenorth> slow forum is slow?
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20:37:30 <Alberth> looks that way
20:37:53 <andythenorth> do we need to buy orudge a bigger server? o_O
20:38:04 <LordAro> he should get more RAM :p
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20:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause> the forum is slow rather a lot lately
20:44:04 <frosch123> yeah, ever since pm became global moderator :p
20:44:22 <frosch123> they are overloading the forums with posts in the private section
20:44:38 <Eddi|zuHause> man i love this ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vg2h_nW0bA
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21:19:18 <LordAro> night all
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22:57:02 <Bad_Brett> hello
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