IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2012-10-23
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07:50:20 <Markk> Can anyone recommend a good dutch newspaper?
07:51:21 <NGC3982> poof woof pofen wofen
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08:20:41 <dihedral> TrueBrain, noaddedsugar.net 502 Bad Gateway ;-)
11:00:09 <NGC3982> Did you guys see the Soyuz launch?
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16:13:45 <andythenorth> can we have GS-like greeble scripts?
16:13:53 <andythenorth> to place newobjects?
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16:29:23 <TyrHeimdal> 7 mill liters of oil waiting at a station
16:29:28 <TyrHeimdal> and my main line is clogged
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16:37:58 <planetmaker> don't worry. Be happy. Cash-in ;-)
16:39:09 <planetmaker> there rarely is a main line which can't be expanded ;-)
16:42:52 <TyrHeimdal> I'm just not sure how to merge these lines
16:42:59 <TyrHeimdal> and get them unclogged
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17:45:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24624 /trunk/src/lang (afrikaans.txt unfinished/tamil.txt) (2012-10-23 17:45:12 UTC)
17:45:21 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:22 <DorpsGek> afrikaans - 5 changes by Oomjcv
17:45:23 <DorpsGek> tamil - 119 changes by aswn
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18:45:18 <andythenorth> someone was talking the other day about multiple units on head end of a train
18:45:37 <andythenorth> that's quite small power, so 6 of them
18:47:01 <Eddi|zuHause> they're crazy these americans
18:48:45 <V453000> spartan train would have had 10
18:48:46 <Kjetil> 2000hp.. that's what we had in 1942
18:49:09 <andythenorth> those units are 50 years old
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18:59:12 <peter1138> 2000hp each or total?
18:59:41 <Eddi|zuHause> 2000 in total would be a little ridiculous :p
19:00:16 <peter1138> heh @ foreign radio
19:00:23 <peter1138> where "www" is pronunced "veh veh veh"
19:00:51 <andythenorth> indians pronounce 'v' as 'w'
19:01:18 <Eddi|zuHause> vat's the difference?
19:01:55 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: that is perfectly sane since you'd get a knot in your tongue for saying "doubleyou" three times
19:03:25 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone seen a pencil?
19:03:37 <andythenorth> it's under your keyboard
19:03:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i looked there already
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19:41:44 <Belugas> [14:59] <andythenorth> indians pronounce 'v' as 'w' <- a colleagu here, from Bangladesh, pronounces "Value" as "Bellew". very destabilizing
19:42:05 * andythenorth has indian family
19:42:09 <andythenorth> the accent is awesome
19:42:14 <Belugas> and "HO" (head Office) as "ESSEHO"
19:42:15 <andythenorth> I don't get call-centre rage
19:42:39 <Belugas> i guess it depends of the region
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19:46:32 <__ln__> are you talking about "welcome to our casino" indians or "technical support, how can i help you" indians?
19:46:59 <Belugas> the later, i'd say :)
20:14:58 <Wolf01> Too bad for them we have one that develops, play songs, chat :D
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20:30:13 <Belugas> have you been drinking coffee all day long, peter?
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20:35:02 <andythenorth> rollercoaster tycoon ^
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20:36:32 <Simonn> I can't build any more things cuz the station is too big
20:36:47 <frosch123> increase max station spread
20:36:59 <frosch123> or build a separate station
20:37:03 <Simonn> but it's CLOSE enough to the station
20:37:06 <frosch123> or use the platforms more efficiently
20:37:10 <Simonn> but for some reason it only lets me build 1 more platform
20:37:36 <Simonn> what you mean drop station
20:39:32 <Simonn> I have one big ass station that acts as a hub
20:39:38 <Simonn> and for some reason it doesn't accept any mor platforms
20:39:45 <Simonn> even if it is close enough
20:40:17 <V453000> either way putting stuff through a station instead of a junction might not be the smartest thing to do
20:40:25 <V453000> hubs have their purpose
20:40:55 <V453000> cant tell much without seeing it
20:42:01 <Yexo> if a 64x64 station is not enough, you likely need more efficiency, not more platforms
20:44:00 <Simonn> the hub at the bottom left I4m trying to expand
20:45:56 <Simonn> I need about 20 more platforms
20:47:22 <Yexo> Intrahub / SimonPort, are those the same station?
20:47:32 <Simonn> Intrahub is just a satelite station
20:47:40 <Simonn> Simonport is everything that has no label above them there
20:48:35 <Yexo> try to change more platforms to drive-through platforms
20:49:03 <Yexo> and get rid of the very long tunnels, the entrance/exit is probably more of a problem than the amount of platforms
20:49:17 <Simonn> there aren't any very long tunnels
20:49:23 <Yexo> because than trains wanting to enter won't have to wait as much for trains leaving
20:49:25 <Simonn> most of them have little "gaps" between them
20:49:39 <Yexo> under the airports "Little Mefinghill City South"
20:50:12 <Simonn> what the problem there?
20:50:26 <Simonn> those 2 platform things are just transfer stations
20:50:35 <Simonn> they transfer passengers from simonport to the airport
20:50:59 <Simonn> but the tunnels really aren't a bottleneck
20:51:02 <Simonn> they barely have to wait there
20:51:10 <Simonn> it's just the platforms are always full
20:51:11 <Yexo> I don't see those platforms filled with trains
20:51:44 <Yexo> all platforms, there are quite a lot of trains but the station isn't full
20:51:46 <Simonn> some rails aren't connected yet
20:51:53 <Simonn> I am expanding in advance
20:51:56 <Simonn> so I don't run into trouble in th future
20:52:08 <Simonn> I am already building platforms and moving rails through the city
20:52:14 <Simonn> and just leaving the rails "be" for a while outside the city
20:52:20 <Simonn> until I connect something to them
20:52:21 <Zuu> "Predict and provide" have been proven to not work :-p
20:52:56 <Simonn> okay but if it is not today or tomorrow
20:53:01 <Simonn> in couple of years I need more platforms
20:53:05 <Simonn> is there any patch or something or cheat
20:53:08 <Simonn> to expand max allowed platforms
20:53:32 <Zuu> As said, you will never be able to remove all bottle necks.
20:53:36 <Yexo> it's easy enough to patch it though
20:53:49 <Zuu> Its a pure fact that you can't get rid of all bottle necks, you can only move them.
20:53:53 <Simonn> with an exisitng game?
20:54:03 <Yexo> sure, but I'm not going to do it
20:54:25 <Simonn> when you say 64x64 is the max
20:54:28 <Simonn> do you mean station spread?
20:54:35 <Simonn> because I KNOW the station i'm trying to build is in range
20:54:44 <Simonn> but when I build more than couple platforms it doesn't want to work
20:54:50 <planetmaker> you surely miss one tile, Simonn
20:54:51 <Simonn> but when I build one, even if it's further away, it works
20:55:08 <Yexo> find the tile most top-left and the tile most botom-right, max distance between them is 64 tiles
20:55:16 <Zuu> Simonn: 64x64 means that all parts of the station have to fit within a rectangle of 64x64 tiles.
20:55:17 <Yexo> same for top-right and bottom-left
20:55:40 <Simonn> its not 64 tile sfrom the center?
20:56:47 <Zuu> I guess you could argue that the setting is labled such that you could read it as it gives the radius. But that's not the case.
20:56:53 <Yexo> if you want to try your hand at patching openttd, download the source, first compile it to test if that works, than find src/table/settings.ini, look for "station_spread" and change "max=64" to "max=200", compile again and you're set
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21:03:20 <Simonn> I'll take a look at it tomorrow
21:03:25 <Simonn> I don't have the energy to figure it out all right now :p
21:03:39 <Kjetil> that file.. looks special.
21:04:23 <Pinkbeast> I think you may be abusing station spread there just a smidge
21:06:53 <Yexo> Kjetil: it is special, but it's also very easy to read
21:07:17 <planetmaker> Kjetil, that ini file is compiled to a .cpp (or .h) file. It's a separate build step
21:07:43 <Kjetil> probably. I have never quite liked ini-files. As they usually come with no documentation :P
21:07:56 <Kjetil> But when one has the source all that changes :P
21:09:18 <Kjetil> someone had fun with macros
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