IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2012-06-20
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00:02:55 <Mister_Argent> quick question -- do the radio antennas do anything?
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01:30:13 <Mister_Argent> as it turns out, linking the two largest cities on the map via rail is a GREAT way to make money.
02:00:22 <Mister_Argent> argh. my plane for 'clear across the map' flights just broke down.
02:00:34 <Mister_Argent> Curse you, Yate Hautigan.
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06:28:36 <NGC3982> Mister_Argent: Yate Haugan? ;)
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08:01:09 <NGC3982> not possible in terms of what people wish to do with their money in a nominal society.
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10:12:14 <Eddi|zuHause> in ireland they have sheep, do the same thing...
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10:50:29 <NGC3982> hopefully not in the same numbers
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16:36:35 * Rubidium is annoyed by telanus away messages
16:38:10 <__ln___> telanus: what makes you so important that everyone needs to know when you're gone and back?
16:38:37 <Rubidium> because if everyone would do that, you'd have mostly away notifications that not many people care about
16:38:43 <Rubidium> at least in this channel
16:40:30 <Rubidium> also the rail track should get some improvements over here. Thought the train would capsize when it passed a few switches straight (not even diverging)
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18:30:22 * Zuu keeps wondering why the window opened by GSGoal::Question use centered text. It makes the text much harder to read than regular right justified text. (or left for languages that use that)
18:31:00 <frosch123> centered text if fine for short questions
18:31:10 <frosch123> but not for paragraphs :)
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18:46:12 * Zuu tries to keep it short but tend to end up writing paragraphs
18:50:16 <frosch123> hehe, i was actually surprised that you did not hit some length limit :)
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19:13:41 <Alberth> Zuu: I like the Split idea, but it is quite easy to achieve, I didn't even need to go over the mountain
19:14:33 <Alberth> Also, I was too smart for my own good, I killed the AI :p
19:15:28 <Zuu> Perhaps I should rename the AI company to "diety money deposit" :-p
19:16:06 <Alberth> watch the company, and complain when it disappears
19:16:35 <Alberth> also, daily checking is not that much use with monthly cumulative production :)
19:17:01 <Zuu> That I got from the template GS I started from.
19:17:42 <Alberth> oh, it works, just mentioning you could reduce the cpu load further
19:18:17 <Zuu> I didn't consider daily checks very heavy, but it could be reduced further.
19:18:42 <Alberth> I agree they are not heavy
19:19:28 <Alberth> I just always watch out for wasted CPU cycles, it becomes a 2nd nature :)
19:29:01 <Zuu> Perhaps I should check every fourthnight if not else to get the opportunity to use this word :-)
19:32:03 <Zuu> How is it bent to get the same form as "daily"?
19:33:08 <Zuu> Anyway, a propper way to do it less often would be to bind the checks to eg. 1:st or 2:nd day each month.
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19:45:41 <Alberth> Forthnightly sounds sort of correct, although I'd just use "every two weeks" :)
19:46:19 <Alberth> don't know how you can wait until some date
20:34:12 <Eddi|zuHause> there is "biweekly", but it seems to be disputed whether that means "once every two weeks" or "twice a week"
20:35:46 <frosch123> sometimes "every second day" also means "twice per week" :p
20:37:16 <Eddi|zuHause> if you have a four-day-week, sure :p
20:38:07 <Eddi|zuHause> week is a strange thing, it's not based on any astronomical unit
20:39:01 <Eddi|zuHause> (technically, hour, minute, etc. aren't either, but those are rather late developments, when more fine-grained specification was necessary)
20:40:16 <__ln___> (depending on the definition of 'based')
20:40:24 <Eddi|zuHause> actually, how comes that months are not aligned to moon phases?
20:40:57 <frosch123> because the moon is not aligned to the sun
20:41:16 <frosch123> but afaik there are old cultures which used the moon instead of the sun
20:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i think the switch to sun-based calendar was around 2000 years ago
20:41:53 <Eddi|zuHause> the jewish calendar is moon-based
20:42:01 <Eddi|zuHause> the julian calendar is sun-based
20:42:11 <Eddi|zuHause> so somewhere inbetween there was a switch
20:42:48 <frosch123> i read about the theory that hunters go at night, so the moon is important
20:42:56 <frosch123> while farmers consider the sun important
20:43:09 <frosch123> so, the switch should be rather 4k-6k years ago
20:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause> the egyptians defined harvest season through some star appearing on the night sky
20:44:41 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i think the jewish calendar is around that age
20:46:14 <Eddi|zuHause> and hunters also need to know when it's getting colder
20:46:47 <Alberth> birds/animals moving away?
20:47:01 <Eddi|zuHause> but stonehenge also has some clear sun-based structure
20:47:11 <frosch123> well, question is, in which year was the jewish calender started
20:47:18 <Eddi|zuHause> so it may as well be some regional issues
20:47:33 <frosch123> i would expect it to be dated back at some point :)
20:48:17 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly, but that doesn't mean the way to count months was new at that time
20:48:23 <Alberth> 4k years ago, there was no world-wide communication, so it was regional by definition :)
20:49:02 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: well, there was some limited cultural contact within europe
20:49:13 <Eddi|zuHause> especially along the coasts
20:50:43 <Alberth> sure, but a channel was enough water as a barrier against such contact, I think
20:51:20 <Alberth> let alone Egyptian star watching vs Stone henge :)
20:55:27 <frosch123> hmm, wetonan cycle is a cool concept
20:55:48 <frosch123> merging 5-day and 7-day weeks into a 35 day cycle :)
21:00:30 <Alberth> working for 25 days? that's long
21:02:17 <frosch123> what's the point of a one-day week?
21:02:31 <frosch123> yay, today is Luang :)
21:02:50 <frosch123> hmm, maybe it actually translated to "today"
21:03:28 <Alberth> looks like a count since the start of the year
21:03:32 <frosch123> hmm, oh, according the table below, not every day is "luang"
21:03:41 <frosch123> there are some gaps between the one-day weeks
21:05:04 <Alberth> that would be too trivial to use :)
21:05:37 <frosch123> this calendar is awesome
21:05:59 <frosch123> there is no single part of it that makes any sense
21:06:10 <frosch123> it must be imported from some aliens
21:06:22 <frosch123> it might make sense on some other planet
21:08:55 <frosch123> ah, it's a rice-calendar :o
21:10:43 <frosch123> @calc 2 * 3 * 5 * 7
21:10:51 * FLHerne is baffled by that calendar ;o
21:11:53 <frosch123> so, if you multiply the primes which have one digit in a decimal system, you get the timespan of a rice cultivation season
21:12:21 <frosch123> i think rice is quite a clever vegetable, it knows primes :)
21:13:48 <FLHerne> So why do they bother with all the other overlapping weeks?
21:14:28 <FLHerne> I really don't get the point in (say) an irregularly-ocurring one-day week :P
21:14:38 <frosch123> i guess it's just a troll calendar. it uses religion to teach people about primes
21:17:33 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: are primes cleverer than fibonacci sequences?
21:18:38 <frosch123> did you spot fibonacci in that calendar?
21:19:13 <Alberth> frosch123 may have discovered more davinci codes :p
21:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> seriously, what's the point of the one-day week? whenever it's Luang in the one day week, it's Pept in the two-day-week. so it's completely redundant
21:38:32 <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: Because then they can claim to have all week lengths from 1 to 10?
21:41:19 <Zuu> Hmm that Pawukon calender is indeed weird
21:41:55 <Zuu> In the mean time I've made the Split scenario considerable harder. However, at this time of day I think it is better to release it tomorrow.
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