IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2010-07-12
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00:44:35 <Eddi|zuHause> sound comes from opensfx
00:44:51 <Eddi|zuHause> you can download it from within the game
00:45:04 <zzux> i prefer to install them manually
00:45:15 <Eddi|zuHause> you can do that, too ;)
00:45:24 <zzux> will look in google, thanks :)
00:45:51 <Eddi|zuHause> it's all available from the website
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07:11:36 <planetmaker> good morning sirs :-)
07:12:03 <planetmaker> (and ladies, should there be some, of course, too)
07:15:26 <SmatZ> congratulations on the football, Terkhen :)
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07:39:24 <Samu> Yesterday I remembered something
07:40:09 <Samu> I was able to chose a different midi type
07:40:22 <Samu> it listed a win32 option
07:40:31 <Samu> I used that and the songs played perfectly
07:40:57 <Samu> and I could chose the synth table in the sound panel on windows
07:41:07 <Samu> that must be what Winamp uses
07:42:27 <Rubidium> but... it crashes OpenTTD on some songs
07:43:03 <Samu> they all played and the list repeated
07:44:13 <Samu> I used the original windows pack
07:47:32 <Samu> I don't have winamp here or a sound blaster
07:48:22 <Samu> this one is a Advance AC97 Audio, lol
07:48:46 <Samu> it only has 1 synth, the microsoft one
07:49:24 <planetmaker> ha, indeed Terkhen. Spain well deserved the title :-)
07:49:39 <planetmaker> Even though I'd like to have the German team win, Spain was clearly better
07:49:46 <planetmaker> And also clearly better than the Dutch
07:50:32 <Rubidium> and the Dutch are just whining
07:50:36 <planetmaker> Samu, your windoze media player will happily play any midi file
07:50:43 <SmatZ> it was not very clean game from the netherlands yesterday
07:50:45 <Samu> well guys, I must go, I have an appointment for checking my invalidity, see you later
07:55:54 <Terkhen> both matches were really hard; the match against Germany was one of the best I have ever seen
07:56:31 <Terkhen> but that karate kick to the chest yesterday was too much
07:56:34 <planetmaker> Terkhen, they played very well there. The match itself IMHO could have been better, if the Germans had played better
07:56:45 <planetmaker> it was a rather one-sided thing ;-)
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07:59:12 <planetmaker> yeah, the karate kick yesterday... that was worst I've seen so far
08:02:45 <Terkhen> I can understand playing dirty as a tactic, since the referee would probably not dare to expel anyone in a final... but that kick was just for causing harm
08:02:57 <Terkhen> fjb: yesterday's match
08:03:53 <planetmaker> fjb, one guy kicked the other player straight into the chest
08:04:43 <planetmaker> deserving immediate sending off the playground
08:05:45 * fjb likes peaceful games like TTD.
08:06:52 <Rubidium> blind simultaneous chess :)
08:09:49 <Terkhen> people will always find a way to play dirty (like flooding all land in the map or destroying other players' trucks with trains)
08:36:15 <SmatZ> ah Terkhen already posted that :)
08:37:32 <planetmaker> SmatZ, yes, I watched the game ;-)
08:38:52 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: the picture is a bit out of context :)
08:39:00 <TrueBrain> the kick was on the ball .. the other player really walked into his foot
08:39:11 <TrueBrain> then again ... watched the kick on the nose of the previous match? :)
08:39:31 <TrueBrain> or the kick on a player who was on the ground the one before that? :p
08:39:35 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: the problem with dutch players is they play very offensively - they don't mind going to other's people body
08:39:54 <TrueBrain> (mind you, the last two were against Dutch players ;))
08:40:04 <TrueBrain> Soccer is nowedays a contact-sport
08:40:08 <TrueBrain> and it sucks to watch
08:40:26 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, the kick was no-way to the ball
08:40:38 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: looked from the other angle, yes :)
08:40:47 <TrueBrain> he wanted to hit the ball
08:41:20 <TrueBrain> all about perspective :)
08:42:01 <TrueBrain> don't get me wrong, the Dutch players did a horrible game .. they should never ever try to be so .. abusive .. they suck at it (the Spain players were much better at hiding away what they did :p)
08:42:05 <planetmaker> Jumping feet at head-height at another player has nothing to do with football. IMHO irrespective of persepective
08:42:07 <TrueBrain> no clue what got into them to play like that :p
08:42:17 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: it was dangerous play, that for sure
08:42:27 <TrueBrain> both parties did that over and over and over
08:42:34 <TrueBrain> personally, I think they all wanted a yellow card
08:42:37 <TrueBrain> for their collection
08:42:40 <planetmaker> Oh, it was mostly the Dutch ;-)
08:43:01 <TrueBrain> 4 yellow cards for Spain because of dangerous play, was it not? :)
08:44:08 <TrueBrain> but okay ... worst final ever, and I noticed little soccer during :)
08:44:27 <TrueBrain> I clocked ... it took 100 minutes before they could play for 2 minutes without any error of any party :p
08:44:46 <TrueBrain> yes, he is sitting in your chair atm
08:45:02 <svip> Oh, I thought he was your arch nemesis.
08:45:18 <svip> Your answer was far less interesting.
08:45:19 <planetmaker> svip, you might well become that :-P
08:45:23 <planetmaker> It's easy. Just continue
08:45:37 <TrueBrain> planetmaker knows me too well :)
08:45:52 <svip> Nobody cares enough about me in any fashion to consider me a nemesis or enemy or even bother hating me.
08:46:19 <svip> ;) It has its advantages being unnoticeable.
08:46:21 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, I can already see you play with the @kick command
08:46:29 <planetmaker> and that's the friendly version :-P
08:48:26 <planetmaker> I must have mixed it up with the ignore button then
08:49:04 <TrueBrain> really, just 3 players missed a yellow card ... sad ... they could have made a perfect yellow board
08:49:58 <TrueBrain> what I hate about FIFA, is that they didn't show someone almost took the cup :)
08:50:05 <svip> Well, it was obvious that Spain would win.
08:50:14 <svip> I mean, could the Netherlands *actually* win?
08:50:28 <svip> Read line 7 and 8 of their national anthem again.
08:50:37 <svip> Clearly would be in contradiction with their anthem.
08:51:22 <svip> "den Koning van Hispanje heb ik altijd geëerd"
08:51:25 <Fixer> svip: 2 really serious moments (1 on 1) with goalkeeper
08:51:59 <svip> I used history to make my prediction.
08:52:17 <svip> Because football should not be judged by the skill of the play, but by the relationships between nations.
08:52:50 <TrueBrain> you are seriously weird
08:52:55 <TrueBrain> this is not the eurosongfestival
08:52:57 <TrueBrain> you know that, right?
08:53:12 <svip> Anything international competition should be judged this way.
08:53:16 <svip> Otherwise it is just sport.
08:53:25 <svip> Which doesn't really interest me.
08:53:32 <Fixer> eurofootballfestival :)
08:54:56 <TrueBrain> just fun if you win ;)
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09:00:14 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: paste's down
09:00:36 <TrueBrain> not even a hi, how are you?
09:01:04 <TrueBrain> I am fine, tnx for asking; you? :p
09:01:24 <SmatZ> fine here too, thanks :)
09:02:37 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: pastebin won't be fixed any time soon; I finally put down the old host to rest
09:03:15 <TrueBrain> and I couldn't find a good alternative
09:03:19 <Rubidium> and no rain any time soon either :(
09:04:07 <TrueBrain> there is a django-pastebin which we might be able to include
09:04:11 <TrueBrain> and maybe make it sign-in only
09:04:35 <planetmaker> <TrueBrain> and maybe make it sign-in only <-- why?
09:04:41 <b_jonas> can't you just use any other pastebin?
09:04:43 <b_jonas> do you want some urls?
09:04:49 <planetmaker> is it that much spam, if the period is short enough?
09:05:00 <planetmaker> b_jonas, we know them
09:05:04 <b_jonas> or do you need a notification on the channel? that can be arranged too
09:05:09 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: you don't want to know the amount of spam that gets posted :)
09:05:29 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, well... I only see from time to time the recent pastes.
09:05:45 <planetmaker> Which was ... well... moderate for an open pastebin
09:05:58 <TrueBrain> true, still annoying like hell
09:06:01 <planetmaker> but my impression there might of course be grossly off scale
09:06:13 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, why... it just goes by
09:06:24 <planetmaker> no one looks at it, especially as it has no links
09:06:33 <TrueBrain> true; well, it seemed like a nice idea, to make it sign-in only :)
09:06:49 <planetmaker> well... easier to use, if not :-)
09:07:30 <planetmaker> but probably it doesn't matter too much. At least for the regulars
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09:08:14 <b_jonas> just make it require a short password that goes in the topic here and changes every few days
09:08:23 <TrueBrain> but yeah, I maybe should spend a bit of time looking at the django-pastebin
09:13:08 * Rubidium thought you had plans with Xen
09:13:48 <TrueBrain> means we need to email LW and get a new server :p
09:14:42 <TrueBrain> owh, and it is raining here :p
09:20:48 <planetmaker> <TrueBrain> owh, and it is raining here :p <--- lucky guy!
09:21:15 <TrueBrain> yeah, it feels nice
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10:08:08 <b_jonas> yeah, it's getting hot here too
10:09:01 <SmatZ> it was 39°C here yesterday (shaded)
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10:21:26 <Samu> I could put my electronic keyboard playing tycoon music
10:22:04 <Samu> there is a connector on the sound card, I think it's called MPU-401
10:23:06 <Samu> instead of listening to the music on my speakers, I would listen via the keyboard
10:23:23 <Samu> using the keyboard own's synth :p
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10:24:58 <Samu> the other way around is also possible
10:25:36 <Samu> I could play a song on the keyboard and use the computer to receive it
10:25:55 <Samu> it would then use the computer's own synth
10:26:08 <Samu> I could also save it as a MIDI file
10:26:20 <Samu> if I have an appropriate program
10:29:26 <Samu> that should help a lot in the compatibility issues
10:29:49 <TrueBrain> Celestar: it yells back: HARDER! HARDER!
10:30:45 <Noldo_> I've heard the Vmware is a bit kinky
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10:36:47 <Samu> no one wants music for tycoon?
10:37:48 <b_jonas> I'm sorry, I don't. I rather just listen to different musing with no game sound.
10:38:05 <b_jonas> but then I'm strange.
10:38:09 <Samu> my brother could play on his keyboard
10:38:38 <Samu> it would turn into a midi file
10:44:07 <Samu> I found the scream tracker, but that's for mod/s3x files
10:44:14 <Samu> can't find the program for mid
10:49:20 <Samu> who the hell u think u are?
10:50:01 <Samu> there's me offering to make some music and u want me to go
10:51:49 <__ln__> you are flooding the channel. if you have something important to say, why not post it on the forum or something.
10:52:02 <__ln__> a monologue like that just gets ignored here most likely.
10:53:26 <Samu> can't post on the forum and can't post on irc. ok bye
10:53:45 <peter1138> that was someone wittering on about playing with keyboards, not making music
10:54:07 <blathijs> __ln__: That was slightly impolite...
10:56:00 <__ln__> i don't remember anymore why i used so many ____
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11:04:03 <fjb> Flooding the channel is also unpolite.
11:05:10 <Rubidium> yay... rain's starting! Now lets see how long it takes to lose 10 degrees C
11:06:13 <fjb> Oh, rain? We only have some light thunder here.
11:07:41 <Rubidium> apparantly it's slightly windy (100-120 km/h gusts)
11:07:54 <Ammler> I work underground, so no need for rain :-)
11:11:51 <Rubidium> hmm... can't even get to my parents by train right now without going via Germany
11:12:53 <Rubidium> somehow trees have fallen on catenary, lightning struck catenary, transformers were struck by lightning
11:13:11 <Rubidium> what a lovely Dutch summer weather
11:39:11 <dihedral> __ln__: for the first time i must say, way to go :-P
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11:48:21 <Rubidium> yay... 10.8 degrees cooler in 20 minutes
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11:48:35 <Celestar> everything below 30C is cold for me
11:48:41 <planetmaker> I envy you, Rubidium
11:48:53 <Celestar> evertthing below 20C is unacceptable
11:49:19 <Celestar> this past weeked ... perfect
11:49:24 <planetmaker> everything above 25°C is unbearable hot. Anything below -15°C is too cold :-P
11:49:49 <Celestar> you sound like Deutsche Bahn
11:49:55 <planetmaker> 15 ... 20°C is ok :-)
11:49:59 <Celestar> for them everything above 20C is too hot
11:50:04 <Markk> We've had 32-35C the last couple of days.
11:50:07 <Celestar> and evertthing below 20C is too cold
11:50:09 <Noldo_> planetmaker: around zero is bad too
11:50:09 <planetmaker> yeah. and everything below 10°C too cold
11:50:18 <Celestar> I feel fine with 32.
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11:50:31 <Markk> Celestar: Are you from .de?
11:50:38 <Noldo_> planetmaker: snow won't stay snow
11:50:40 <planetmaker> just because water may freeze around 32F?
11:51:03 <Noldo_> planetmaker: -5 C is ideal winter temperature
11:51:27 <Celestar> sorry I have little sympathy. I was freezing my butt off for the past 9 months :P
11:52:38 <Rubidium> and he wanted to go to space... as if it's hot there
11:52:56 <Celestar> hot enough in the suits tbh >P
11:54:16 <planetmaker> Rubidium, that very much depends. On average it may be quite hot
11:54:22 <planetmaker> in the Earth's vicinity
11:55:05 <planetmaker> Noldo_, only because -5°C is nicer than 0°C it doesn't make 0°C unacceptable ;-)
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12:18:14 * Zuu wonders why he has 3 instances of OpenTTDAU open.
12:19:40 <Rubidium> because Zuu wants to be up-to-date?
12:20:06 <Zuu> Possible or I'm just to lazy to close them.
12:20:51 <svip> Is this an Australian version with less gore?
12:21:02 <svip> Because OpenTTD without the gore is no fun.
12:21:36 <Zuu> It fetches the latest nightly for you on the click of a button
12:22:40 <Zuu> Except that this tool gets binaries for windows only, shows the changelog etc.
12:23:05 <planetmaker> and updates to the important MP servers :-)
12:23:09 <svip> Well, it isn't that auto if you have to click the button.
12:23:19 <svip> planetmaker: The servers run Windows?
12:24:05 <Zuu> Well after the update it starts OpenTTD, and you can even configure it so that when you click on a shortcut on your desktop it do not show any GUI, just update and then start OpenTTD.
12:24:54 <svip> Game should be playing itself for me!
12:25:17 <Ammler> [14:24] <svip> I love automatic. <-- then make a patch, so openttd does automatically update bananas :-)
12:25:45 <svip> I am missing something funny.
12:25:58 <Ammler> something like ./openttd --autofruits
12:26:17 <TrueBrain> funny, OpenTTD should automatically update BaNaNaS .. I wonder with what it should update it? Random new grfs?
12:26:18 * planetmaker enjoys the new silence
12:26:34 <TrueBrain> pickle your cache and composite random stuff?
12:26:56 <svip> TrueBrain: I am not sure.
12:27:26 <Ammler> TrueBrain: in combination with joining a server
12:27:38 <Ammler> ./openttd -n... --auto
12:27:59 <TrueBrain> maybe read cosmic rays and make something worth uploading to BaNaNaS ..
12:28:06 <Zuu> Updating local grfs from bananas wolud make sense, but you wrote that OpenTTD should update bananas. :-p
12:28:20 <TrueBrain> Zuu: ssstttt, don't tell him
12:28:25 <TrueBrain> lets wait how long it takes before he catches on
12:28:38 <Zuu> Sorry to spoil your joke :-)
12:28:54 <Ammler> oh well, I except some brain, specially from True... ;-)
12:29:05 <TrueBrain> I expect readable english
12:29:07 <TrueBrain> we all have issues :D
12:29:16 <svip> Readable English? On the Internet?
12:29:21 <svip> TrueBrain: You aim to be disappoint.
12:29:40 <TrueBrain> only he who expects the most, gets the biggest disappointment :D
12:30:18 <TrueBrain> and of course then there is PeterT :p
12:30:20 <svip> Why are you all smiling?
12:30:23 <TrueBrain> awh, that is just mean
12:30:35 <Ammler> because that looks awesome in my client :-)
12:30:47 * TrueBrain hugs PeterT, I take thatone back :)
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12:31:53 <Zuu> Smiling makes one happy. :-)
12:32:15 <TrueBrain> a day not smiles is a day not lived
12:32:19 <svip> If you do it too much, it hurts your cheeks.
12:35:20 * Zuu wishes for thunderstorms tonight - would be awesome - at least until the power goes down :-p
12:35:34 <TrueBrain> here the rain just left
13:07:25 <Belugas> fuuuurrrrrrrr furrrrrrrrr furrrrrrrrrrr
13:07:40 <Belugas> hi there you sweeties :)
13:09:29 <planetmaker> I hopy you, too :-)
13:10:22 <Belugas> was underwater both days :)
13:10:44 <Belugas> i just used two cylinders, but they are dry empty :)
13:11:26 <Belugas> like, when i got out of the water, i would have to suck to get a little breath
13:11:44 <Belugas> too bad, tough... i missed the football final
13:12:42 <planetmaker> it was a karate final. Not football
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13:16:55 <TrueBrain> it was touchbal, not?
13:19:02 <TrueBrain> only show the Dutch people as bad people :p
13:20:02 <Belugas> ho? spanish did not get that brutal?
13:20:12 <TrueBrain> less, but they were not very nice either :)
13:20:17 <SmatZ> Dutch people are not bad :) just the football players aren't very nice :-p
13:20:22 <TrueBrain> 9 yellow cards for Netherlands, 5 for Spain .. says enough :p
13:20:44 <planetmaker> and a red one ;-)
13:20:52 <TrueBrain> the red was a production of 2 yellow
13:20:54 <SmatZ> there could be two more I would say :-p
13:20:55 <TrueBrain> so that is not really red :)
13:20:56 <planetmaker> <SmatZ> Dutch people are not bad :) just the football players aren't very nice :-p <-- I subscribe to that, too :-)
13:21:04 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: well .. just 2? :p
13:21:18 <TrueBrain> even the keeper almost had one ..
13:21:22 <planetmaker> SmatZ, 4 more ;-)
13:21:32 <planetmaker> 14 all in all per team
13:21:41 <planetmaker> which is... 5 more :-P
13:22:06 <TrueBrain> never a final had that many yellow cards
13:22:15 <TrueBrain> then again, I remember another game of the Netherlands, which had the same :p
13:24:03 <SmatZ> one of Dutch players deserved second yellow card in 23. minute, in my opinion :)
13:24:08 <SmatZ> but it would be too cruel
13:24:50 <TrueBrain> many more should have been given
13:24:54 <TrueBrain> but you also need to keep a game going :)
13:25:04 <planetmaker> it seemed that after 15 minutes it was decided that by fair play the Spain would win ;-)
13:25:22 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: that is not completely true :) Spain is only better trained to hide it :)
13:25:33 <planetmaker> and then hack & slay on both parts continued till... dunno. way in the 2nd half
13:25:58 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, nah :-)
13:26:04 <TrueBrain> but I laughed my ass off when NL got Yellow for talking to the referee over and over :p
13:26:12 <planetmaker> Spain played allegedly the fairest world championship
13:26:58 <TrueBrain> halfway in the game we were wondering what would happen if we put things like robots in the field
13:27:03 <TrueBrain> which randomly bump you
13:27:09 <TrueBrain> or flamethrowers :)
13:27:17 <TrueBrain> btw, did you see that someone almost stole the cup before the match?
13:27:58 <planetmaker> not really. I only afterwards saw that *some person* was draged away for *some reason*
13:28:13 <TrueBrain> he came VERY close to touching it :)
13:30:14 <Belugas> mmh... so it sems i missed quite a circus then :)
13:30:57 <SmatZ> [15:27:09] <TrueBrain> or try to hurt you <== hehe
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13:40:07 <Belugas> and ho boy... so much beauties at those dives :)
13:40:16 <Belugas> lucky i brough my camera ;)
13:41:06 <Belugas> but...hey... it's a little bit ...hem... disturbing to shoot those cuties
13:41:26 <Belugas> l mean... the lens is big and it's noticeable, so they KNOW you are shooting them
13:41:53 <Belugas> and then, you have to analyse the shots at home with your wife over your shoulder
13:42:27 <Zuu> So maybe it is good that they see when you shoot them :-)
13:42:28 <Belugas> "they asked me to do so, I swear! I was just for the dragonflies!!"
13:43:05 <Belugas> indeed Zuu, indeed :)
13:43:48 <planetmaker> "they forced me, honestly! I had no choice...!" ;-)
14:02:11 * fjb got forced once because they didn't belive that a person with a SLR is not from the press.
14:02:55 <Belugas> slr is good to pick up girls
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14:48:16 <Eddi|zuHause> So... "Dutch Hattrick", eh?
14:48:34 <Eddi|zuHause> [3 times finals, 3 times lost]
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16:26:54 <SpComb> "not a Cargodist problem perse"
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17:03:11 <planetmaker> Rubidium: we got a mass-desync...
17:03:39 <Rubidium> ... and we didn't run with desync debugging turned on
17:03:42 <planetmaker> If you care... I enabled the desync debug level 3, not long before
17:03:58 <planetmaker> I saw one before and enabled it.
17:04:10 <Rubidium> in any case... don't have the time to get into any debugging
17:04:19 <planetmaker> you want to get the data?
17:04:54 <Rubidium> well... you shouldn't throw it away
17:14:52 <planetmaker> well... ok. I put stuff in a separate dir.
17:15:00 <planetmaker> May it rest in pieces
17:15:15 <planetmaker> anything else than the command log, the dmps and the start savegame?
17:33:50 <planetmaker> ok... crashes instead of desyncs on current nightly...
17:38:47 <planetmaker> zoom function:NOT_REACHED triggered at line 139 of /Users/ingo/ottd/autostart/ps.openttdcoop.org-3979-svn/src/slope_func.h
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17:45:39 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r20131 /trunk/src/lang/ (bulgarian.txt korean.txt portuguese.txt russian.txt):
17:45:39 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:39 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 6 changes by kokobongo
17:45:39 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: korean - 5 changes by junho2813
17:45:39 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: portuguese - 9 changes by ABCRic
17:45:40 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: russian - 9 changes by Lone_Wolf
17:46:33 <Rubidium> planetmaker: stack traces are more useful than telling some NOT_REACHED got triggered
17:47:04 <planetmaker> Vitus posted the full thing
17:47:05 <Rubidium> compare "I did desync" vs "desync and here is the log and everything needed to reproduce it"
17:47:21 <planetmaker> and I knew he uploads it the moment I posted it here :-)
17:48:15 <Rubidium> ah well... so there's something for glx to decode
17:48:23 <planetmaker> [00] openttd 0x00000001001736eb (CrashLog::FillCrashLog(char*, char const*) const + 331)
17:48:24 <planetmaker> [01] openttd 0x0000000100268f34 (HandleCrash(int) + 228)
17:48:26 <planetmaker> [02] libSystem.B.dylib 0x00007fff858b335a (_sigtramp + 26)
17:48:27 <planetmaker> ^ that's my full one
17:48:38 <planetmaker> join server, zoom and crash
17:49:12 <planetmaker> I guess I add it there, too
17:49:16 <Rubidium> planetmaker: and does it happen when you're scrolling around?
17:49:29 <Rubidium> planetmaker: that stack trace is worse than useless :(
17:50:11 <Ammler> [19:48] <planetmaker> join server, zoom and crash <-- zoom?
17:50:21 <planetmaker> Rubidium: I joined. Map was zoomed in. Then I zoomed out and maybe a bit downwards.
17:50:45 <Ammler> then it looks quite much like something with the new zoom patch?
17:50:58 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I would say it has nothing to do with the actual zooming, but rather with more of the map being drawn
17:51:29 <Ammler> is it possible that something like that is network aware?
17:51:30 <Rubidium> i.e. likely frosch123's snow stuff
17:51:31 <planetmaker> which may well be true
17:52:22 <glx> if it's clean trunk and you have the dmp, I can do something
17:52:43 <planetmaker> Rubidium: yes. It's not zoom
17:52:51 <planetmaker> moving around on the paused server is sufficient
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17:53:38 <planetmaker> but there was no snow visible where it crashed
17:54:31 <Rubidium> that doesn't mean it can't be one of frosch snow related commits
17:55:07 <frosch123> i guess i added only one usage of GetHighestSlopeCorner
17:55:42 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: WT3 made a big snafu when committing; it completely empties bulgarian.txt (and it's still locked)
18:00:31 <frosch123> yup, that is the GetHighestSlopeCorner i added yesterday
18:02:36 <glx> but I don't know if the value is still right
18:06:30 <glx> called with SLOPE_FLAT it seems
18:07:33 <frosch123> for me with 37, which is invalid afaik :)
18:09:08 <frosch123> ah, i know what case i forgot...
18:14:09 <frosch123> did someone already report, that bridgetransparency does not affect the track on the bridge... or is that a feature?
18:15:51 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r20132 /trunk/src/elrail.cpp: -Fix [FS#3944](r20126): There can also be halftile foundations on slopes with opposite corners raised.
18:15:58 <frosch123> anyway, you reported 30 minutes too late :p
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18:52:49 <frosch123> btw. who broke #notice :)
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18:55:34 <Ammler> frosch123: #openttdcoop uses r20080, why does r20132 fix that?
18:56:14 <frosch123> "Crash in recenty nightly (r20128) "
18:56:19 <frosch123> what is about 20080 ?
18:56:46 <Ammler> #3944 is reported with that
18:56:52 <frosch123> This happened after updating server from r20080 to r20128.
18:58:42 <planetmaker> Ammler: I updated to r20128 in order to avoid possibly the desyncs or get that data at least for a more recent nightly
18:58:58 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: looks like 4bit city
18:58:59 <planetmaker> But... there we didn't get that far. Thus 20080 again
18:59:13 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: maybe ;)
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19:36:19 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r20133 /: -Revert (r20130): Vehicles could deadlock themself in roadstops.
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20:36:08 <Sacro> anyone here running ubuntu?
20:36:49 <__ln__> everyone's too ashamed to admit
20:37:02 <Sacro> i need to konw what package contains /etc/pam.d/other
20:37:19 <Sacro> there was a ... incident
20:37:22 <b_jonas> I tried it once and decided not to, but there are some people on irc running it
20:37:37 <orudge> an incident, I think you'll find.
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21:09:28 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: sounds bad
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21:11:09 <TrueBrain> sh: line 1: 7218 Killed translator/scripts/language-output-openttd.py trunk 'Bulgarian' IGNORE > tmp/bulgarian.txt
21:12:09 <SpComb> check process exit status
21:12:22 <TrueBrain> svnserve was consuming 400+ MiB
21:12:25 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: didn't you limit that?
21:13:51 <TrueBrain> either way, I can make a commit now which corrects it
21:13:57 <TrueBrain> or let tomorrow WT3.0 commit do it
21:14:14 <Rubidium> and it should've been killed by then... maybe there were multiple svnserve processes?!? I seem to remember it spawning others which aren't under the influence of the memory limiter though
21:14:46 <Rubidium> does the lock on WT3 bother translators?
21:14:52 <TrueBrain> yes, there were 5 of 70+
21:18:58 <TrueBrain> meh, WT3.0 made boo-hoos now
21:19:11 <TrueBrain> lost the headers :p
21:19:57 <TrueBrain> the 6 changes will be lost
21:21:18 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: truebrain * r20134 /trunk/src/lang/bulgarian.txt: -Revert (r20131): OOM is a nasty person
21:22:28 <TrueBrain> reloading the Bulgarian language in WT3 now
21:23:29 <TrueBrain> should be okay again
21:23:34 <TrueBrain> only lost the 6 changes
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21:45:41 <PeterT> TrueBrain: you highlighted me?
21:46:00 <PeterT> oh, there was hugging when I was not present
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23:20:48 <functionofxy__> is there some way to issue an order for all buses with less than a certain # of profit to go to depot? I want to get rid of a few hundred buses the ai created.
23:21:01 <functionofxy__> (i bought the ai company)
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23:22:28 <Eddi|zuHause> functionofxy: no
23:22:47 <Eddi|zuHause> functionofxy: you can sort by profit, and drag each bus to a group
23:22:54 <Eddi|zuHause> then send all of that group to depot
23:23:06 <functionofxy> I was hoping for a console trick. oh man, this is going to take a while
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23:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause> there is unfortunately no mass-move-to-group, except for shared orders...
23:41:54 <OwenS> Well, the new stack has landed on the Deepwater Horizon at last
23:43:00 <OwenS> Interesting sticker on the side. "Transocean\n THINK twice, Act once!!"
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