IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2010-06-09
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07:00:10 <Rubidium> goooooood morning Spain! :)
07:00:26 <borgfish> good morning from germany !
07:00:33 <borgfish> our 12 points go to: holland
07:00:57 <Rubidium> borgfish: are you insane?
07:01:15 <borgfish> no, i am unsane, but not jet insane
07:01:28 <borgfish> (thats part of the song i like)
07:01:49 <Rubidium> *why* would you give even 1 point to the recent Dutch ESC entries?
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07:04:08 <Terkhen> oh, my virtualbox changed its name
07:04:37 <Rubidium> to Oracle something?
07:05:24 <Terkhen> java is now called Oracle Java too? :P
07:05:56 <Rubidium> although probably only with 1.7
07:08:30 <Terkhen> it won't affect me then... I'm forced to use an old version of JRE
07:08:51 <borgfish> i wasn't so serious about it
07:08:54 <Rubidium> what is considered old?
07:10:53 <Rubidium> as that's from dec 2006, so 3.5 years old
07:11:17 <Rubidium> otherwise 1.5 from sep 2004, so almost 6 years old
07:13:40 <Terkhen> yes... seems that the RMI plugin we were given only works with that exact version
07:14:49 <peter1138> java software seems good at that
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11:49:24 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: so if FMSP should be transported with tanker wagons, would you mind adding "liquid" to the cargo class?
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16:56:03 <elho> ah, the "negative income with feeder systems" page on the wiki just confirmed why i suddenly see negative income after migrating from an airport hub on one side of a few towns to a maglev one on the other side, the latter is more of a detour :/
16:57:35 <elho> and i was moving the maglev station even further away in a first attempt, as i thought the "last mile" transports where too short and therefore showing negative income :P
16:59:42 <elho> but if it works that way and the final destination is not accounted for in transfer income, you could actually make money by transfering goods to some far away station and let them rot there?
17:00:07 <elho> (it would be silly to do, of course)
17:09:57 <Eddi|zuHause> that is precisely why it doesn't work that way
17:10:45 <Eddi|zuHause> ahh! it's a wolf!! hide!!!
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17:27:39 <elho> Eddi|zuHause: the transfer to nirvana would not work, or are you referring to the earlier normal case?
17:28:43 <Eddi|zuHause> elho: i mean you only get actual money at the final destination
17:29:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and only for "air distance" between the first and last station
17:29:52 <__ln__> a wolf!! terrifying beast!
17:30:07 <Eddi|zuHause> where "air" is measured along the grid lines
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17:32:45 <Wolf01> manhattan distance, Pythagoras's or whatelse?
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17:35:24 <elho> oh, so you are trying to say, that the transfer income displayed when a vehicle arrives at a station is only virtual and not added to the balance? (i thought it was and that the negative income when transporting it part of the way back later corrects the balance)
17:35:40 <elho> yes, i get the "air distance" part :)
17:36:51 <Wolf01> and you need to calculate the exact length of travelled tiles to get the right income?
17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r19950 /trunk/src/lang/ (french.txt indonesian.txt unfinished/irish.txt):
17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 35 changes by ElNounch
17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: indonesian - 28 changes by prof
17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: irish - 58 changes by tem
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17:56:45 <heffer> the account system is being silly
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17:57:10 <heffer> it tells me that my username/pw combination is invalid
17:57:33 <heffer> then i try to recover my password and it then tells me that my username/email combination is unknown
17:57:51 <heffer> it used to work, i merged my accounts some time ago already
18:07:44 <Ammler> you need both to recover?
18:08:16 <Ammler> that would be too much security anyway ;-)
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18:42:50 <elho> those new (0.7+) orders look interesting, but AIUI you can still not do two-way collect&distribute setups, right? (as in a bus that collects passengers from town dropping them of at the airport and on its way back taking only those passengers that arrived by plane and not those that arrived with a bus from another town)
18:52:47 <Zuu> elho, yep that's right. For that you need either two airports or CargoD[ie]st
19:07:00 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... somehow this train doesn't get uphill...
19:13:18 <Zuu> I came up with a great idea of how to learn some basic train German, run OpenTTD in German. :-) Much better than a random German tutor page where they have things like "hello my name is .. " and other random stuff.
19:28:03 <Zuu> The sales staff at bahn told me there is no wap service in English where you can get visual train information. The answer was written in a way that it implyed that there is one in German. So for random I tried with m.bahn.de and there was even an "english" link that changed the service into Engilsh. :-D
19:30:29 <Zuu> On the other hand, the Swedish equivalent is rather unherd of outside the group of transport neerds.
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20:08:57 <Zuu> Sacro: Of course it's that game, what other games could it be?
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21:08:53 <Vadtec> is there a scenario editor that allows you to prelay tracks/companies?
21:09:37 <Vadtec> id like to create some scenarios that have companies already in place for people to play as
21:09:58 <SmatZ> you can start the game, cheat yourself money, build tracks/companies, save it, and rename the save to .scn
21:10:16 <SmatZ> I am not sure what will happen with your money
21:10:40 <SmatZ> don't forget to spend money so companies don't have too much
21:11:14 <SmatZ> also, such a "scenario" isn't much different from regular "save game"
21:11:24 <Vadtec> not really what im after, but i had considered the idea
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