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00:01:48 <Zuu> Never though that it could be a bug. :-p Have worked around that one quite a lot in my AI-testing by using town ids instead of names.
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00:02:51 <Zuu> Good night
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00:14:23 <Eddi|zuHause> * __ln__ received a flag of the federal republic of germany as a gift <-- as longa s it's not one with a circular hole in the middle :p
00:15:24 <__ln__> no holes :)
00:16:35 <Eddi|zuHause> (i'm not sure if people get this reference)
00:17:07 <__ln__> (i think i do, but whether i'm people is up to interpretation)
00:19:20 <__ln__> a german guy here promised to sing something in the middle of the market square if germany wins... and so he did. and another one was waving the german flag, but neither got hardly any attention from passers-by.
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00:24:18 <Katje_> whats the difference to the near end, far end thing in destintions?
00:25:12 <PeterT> only if the train is smaller than the station it goes to
00:25:25 <Eddi|zuHause> the stopping position on the platform
00:25:29 <PeterT> then near end will make it go to the near side, far end to the far side
00:25:30 <PeterT> etc..
00:25:37 <Katje_> right
00:25:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i suggest middle for best eye candy
00:25:48 <Katje_> ok
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01:53:28 <PeterT> huh
01:53:34 <PeterT> * #openttd *!*Peter@c-76-19-211-133.hsda1.ma.comcast.net reticulum.oftc.net 1272152844
01:53:34 <PeterT> * #openttd :End of Channel Quiet List
01:53:39 <PeterT> from how long ago is this?
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10:03:40 <andythenorth> morning
10:04:32 <Alberth> good morning
10:04:41 <Alberth> s/morning/afternoon/
10:09:56 * andythenorth is buying a large amount of Lego for entertainment
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10:36:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r19903 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Use SpecialMouseMode enum as type of _special_mouse_mode.
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11:29:56 <__ln__> what, the french want concorde to fly again
11:32:23 <Chrill> epic win
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12:06:30 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r19904 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp querystring_gui.h window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Make EventState usable outside Window context.
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12:15:40 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r19905 /trunk/src/ (viewport.cpp window.cpp): -Codechange: Use EventState for mouse handling routines.
12:19:22 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r19906 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: HandleMouseOver() never ends, so don't return an event handling state.
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12:26:43 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r19907 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Fix: [NewGRF] Call callbacks 14A, 14B and 14C after all industry variables have been assigned, so more variables are valid during the callbacks.
12:27:44 <OwenS> __ln__: Air France Concordes flying again? I wonder if that would make BA revive theirs to compete...
12:28:21 <frosch123> i thought they were not making any profit
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12:40:52 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r19908 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: Use a boolean value to assign to a boolean variable.
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13:05:49 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r19909 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Doc: Typo fixes, small doxygen improvements.
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13:17:02 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r19910 /trunk/src/ (settings.cpp window.cpp): -Doc: Doxygen additions.
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15:03:40 <Yexo> TrueBrain: did you already rent a car for the 19th? I could borrow my parents car otherwise for that weekend
15:04:04 <TrueBrain> tomorrow I will call the rental company, as I need a car for the next 4 weeks
15:07:39 <Yexo> if you rent the car anyway it's probably easiest to use that one
15:08:33 <Rubidium> Yexo: otherwise we have to travel to Vjenne (or maybe Almelo) first?
15:09:16 <Yexo> no, I'd pick the car up friday (my father is in den bosch friday
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15:33:00 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r19911 /trunk/src/ (gfx.cpp gfx_func.h viewport.cpp): -Codechange: Simplify text drawing by eliminating global variables and side effects. This also fixes the 'colour' parameter of DrawStringMultiLine().
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16:16:27 <Katje_> dbg: [ai] The AI died unexpectedly.
16:16:28 <Katje_> dbg: [ai] No suitable AI found, loading 'dummy' AI.
16:16:37 <Katje_> where can I get a sensible AI
16:16:50 <Yexo> main menu, click "dlownload online content"
16:16:56 <Yexo> select a few AIs and click download
16:17:03 <Katje_> aah
16:17:08 <Katje_> which do people recommend ?
16:17:24 <PeterT> It's your personal preference
16:17:29 <PeterT> try em all out
16:17:32 <PeterT> I like Simple AI
16:18:47 <Katje_> ok
16:48:48 <planetmaker> good evening
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16:58:22 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I will let you know no later than Wednesday; but I can also borrow my parents car for that weekend, so :)
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16:59:13 <Yexo> ok, that's fine
17:10:04 <andythenorth> planetmaker: hi hi
17:10:23 <planetmaker> moin andythenorth :-)
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17:45:40 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r19912 /trunk/src/lang/ (estonian.txt swedish.txt unfinished/irish.txt):
17:45:40 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:40 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: estonian - 73 changes by taavi
17:45:40 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: irish - 112 changes by tem
17:45:40 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: swedish - 6 changes by tool
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18:19:55 <scr4ve> Hey folks! :-)
18:19:59 <PeterT> hallo
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18:24:21 <scr4ve> First of all: Amazing game. But you might already know that. Anyway, I've got a small usability proposal: For inexperienced users it would be nice if you simplify the download page.
18:24:58 <Progman> in which way?
18:25:57 <scr4ve> Look how Ubuntu does it - one big download button for the standard download.
18:26:08 <scr4ve> ( http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download )
18:26:39 <Progman> and what is "standard"?
18:27:10 <Eddi|zuHause> theoretically the download page should "guess" which download is probably right for you
18:27:10 <Progman> there are different OS and versions/types
18:27:11 <Rubidium> scr4ve: but THEY don't have to care about the operating system you're running
18:27:11 <Eoin> standard would be x86
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18:27:32 <Rubidium> and our download page already tries to guess the right version
18:27:45 <scr4ve> Progman: Latest stable installer, no explanation on checksums and so on.
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20:08:33 <Eddi|zuHause> lmao... "this can only be in france, because the people cross the road while red" :p
20:08:59 <__ln__> i thought that's london
20:09:09 <frosch123> karambolage?
20:09:27 <Eddi|zuHause> yes ;) the question is always "was this scene shot in france or germany"
20:13:03 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: why wait if there's no car?
20:13:31 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: don't worry, it happens in germany as well... but probably on a slightly lower scale ;)
20:14:00 <Eddi|zuHause> oh great... arte.tv wants me to install silverlight...
20:14:44 <glx> better than flash ;)
20:16:21 <Eddi|zuHause> it's definitely time for html 5
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20:17:37 <glx> not until they agree on the codecs
20:17:59 <TrueBrain> so never
20:18:28 <glx> maybe with VP8 (but it's not as good as it seems)
20:18:59 <Rubidium> that's google's proposal, right?
20:19:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think they should "agree" on a codec, because the codecs probably get outdated/superceded pretty fast, and an update of the standard is probably very difficult
20:19:04 <Rubidium> in that case: I don't trust it
20:19:16 <TrueBrain> VP8 has license issues with x264
20:19:18 <TrueBrain> already ...
20:19:39 <glx> you mean h264 :)
20:19:42 <TrueBrain> oops
20:19:44 <TrueBrain> yes
20:19:55 <Rubidium> in any case... first abolish software patents world wide!
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20:20:03 <TrueBrain> the claim of google turned out to be false .. somewhat ...
20:20:24 <glx> just abolish USA ;)
20:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i fear that europe will get software patents some way or another within the next 10 years
20:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling the politicians will fold under the lobbying pressure
20:48:38 <Eddi|zuHause> gnah... i was just skimming through FIRS code, and wondered what a "Fruit Sand Vegetables" cargo might be...
20:50:10 <Xaroth> lol
20:51:05 <Eddi|zuHause> <spoiler>obviously it means "Fruits and Vegetables"...</spoiler>
20:51:50 <Eddi|zuHause> who the hell made a code style with all caps and no _?
20:52:21 <SpComb> sounds like BASIC to me
20:52:37 <SpComb> the original ASCII didn't have lowercase letters
20:52:42 * Xaroth shudders
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20:53:22 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: actually the proposal for the first display had no uppercase letters, but the church protested because you can't spell "GOD" that way...
20:53:38 <__ln__> LOWERCASE LETTERS NEED MORE 1-BITS AND CONSUME MORE ENERGY.
20:53:58 <SpComb> agreed, let's just write in control codes
20:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> technically, bit switches consume more energy...
20:55:04 <Eddi|zuHause> let's abolish the clock...
20:55:32 <SpComb>  
20:55:48 <SpComb> although hrm, that went down as a CTCP
20:55:59 <glx> an ignored CTCP :)
20:56:15 <SpComb> unfortunate, would probably be better without the \001
20:56:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe i also have CTCP on ignore...
20:58:41 <SpComb> on behalf of better ASCII utilization:  
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20:59:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that didn't look like ascii at all...
21:00:03 <SpComb> the first 0x1F of ASCII are undervalued
21:01:57 <Eddi|zuHause> well, IRC has some conflicting uses for some of the <0x20 codes...
21:02:35 <Eddi|zuHause> especially the code ^I is used for "italics" and "tabulator"...
21:03:36 <Eddi|zuHause> colours are disabled on most "sane" channels
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21:05:57 <PeterT> lololol
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21:22:46 <Mazur> But colours are pretty!
21:23:28 <__ln__> DorpsGek: come on, he obviously wasn't going to continue it.
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22:25:40 <Nite_Owl> Hello all
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