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07:20:10  <DDR> Hello. Just wanted to say I had a dream about this game. Then I installed it. It was as good. I love you all. Goodnight.

07:21:00  <Forked> ¯\(º_o)/¯

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07:25:05  <Eddi|zuHause> your face looks weird, you should see a doctor about that

07:29:03  <Forked> you like it? I found it on the internet

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08:40:01  <Terkhen> good morning

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12:45:40  <IceGuest_75> Hello

12:46:04  <Rubidium> 'lo

12:46:31  <IceGuest_75> I'm trying to make a dedicated server with !goal feature

12:46:42  <IceGuest_75> But i can't find anything relevant to how to install a script like that

12:46:46  <IceGuest_75> Or whatever software it is

12:47:00  <Rubidium> primarily because they're quite secretive about that

12:47:19  <Noldo> who's they?

12:47:28  <KenjiE20> 'the wizards'

12:47:45  <Noldo> Gandalf and his friends?

12:47:50  <Rubidium> the people with a goal server, e.g. I tried to contact Ex but never succeeded with that

12:47:55  <IceGuest_75> Rubidium so no chance of finding out how to do it ?

12:49:08  <Rubidium> I wouldn't say no chance

12:49:16  <IceGuest_75> I see

12:49:45  <IceGuest_75> Any idea how one would go about writing the software/script

12:49:50  <Noldo> can it be done with an autopilot like thing?

12:49:56  <IceGuest_75> What scripting/programming language should one know ?

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12:52:03  <dihedral> nope

12:52:10  <dihedral> cannot be done with ap

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12:52:24  <dihedral> openttd must be heavily patched to make a goal server

12:52:31  <IceGuest_75> Oh

12:52:43  <Noldo> what kind of goal do they use?

12:53:06  <IceGuest_75> A goal like who reaches company value of X $ wins would be hard to make

12:53:22  <IceGuest_75> I mean you would make a timer or on each end o month get the company value of each company

12:53:47  <IceGuest_75> And if one has over the constant pause the game declare the winner restart the server in X time

12:54:29  <IceGuest_75> Doesn't seem too complicated :P

12:55:12  <dihedral> that could be done

12:55:19  <dihedral> company value is fetchable

12:55:34  <IceGuest_75> I did find a complicated feature

12:55:38  <dihedral> however, if 2 had reached the value, you could not tell which one was first

12:55:57  <IceGuest_75> dihedral whichever has the best value :P

12:56:21  <IceGuest_75> Either that or one could make a timer to check the company value at each X seconds or minutes

12:56:59  <dihedral> why do you want yet another goal server?

12:57:05  <dihedral> are the other ones full already?

12:57:30  <IceGuest_75> dihedral for my local community

12:57:37  <IceGuest_75> local as in for my country :)

12:58:33  <dihedral> how many openttd players do you have from that country?

12:58:36  <IceGuest_75> I already have a couple of other gaming servers and want to promote OTTD

12:58:39  <IceGuest_75> Quite a few

12:58:45  <IceGuest_75> I'm from Romania

12:58:58  <dihedral> well.... have fun ^^

12:59:07  <IceGuest_75> Myeah...

12:59:20  <IceGuest_75> I found a more complicated goal server. You would build your HQ in a city and do /claim to claim the city. The scenario was desert and you would need to bring in water food goods diamonds to flourish the city. The one who makes X population city wins

12:59:55  <IceGuest_75> If i'm not mistaken might have been from Ex too, i know it's named City Mania

13:00:11  <IceGuest_75> Is there a way to disable terraforming ?

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13:00:30  <glx> not without patching

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13:00:51  <IceGuest_75> patching as in applying a new grf ?

13:01:06  <glx> no as changing the source

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13:01:12  <IceGuest_75> Oh i see

13:01:29  <IceGuest_75> What language is it ?

13:01:39  <glx> C++

13:02:03  <IceGuest_75> yeah probably in the following years i'll achieve this on my own =)

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13:03:10  <Luukland> Its me Luukland from the misssisssippi

13:03:28  <Goulp> nice entry Luuk

13:03:39  <Luukland> uhu uhu

13:03:41  * Luukland knobs

13:05:12  <Luukland> I sat upon a solid rock

13:05:26  <Luukland> Making the flowers dance before the morning dew

13:05:42  <Luukland> I was listening to their moist sound

13:05:56  <Luukland> Just like as if I were together with you

13:05:57  <Luukland> :)

13:06:02  <Goulp> hey IceGUest75, try with Luukland, he is a kind of pro in goal server

13:06:24  <Luukland> Someone wanting to speak the old men?

13:06:59  <IceGuest_75> Yeah Luukland can you share knowledge on how to make a company value goal server?

13:07:31  <Luukland> Sure I can

13:07:41  <Luukland> Let me ask you first, do you know C++?

13:07:46  <IceGuest_75> Hardly

13:07:57  <IceGuest_75> I know PHP up to OOP

13:08:18  <IceGuest_75> I've only given other languages a chance up to pointers

13:08:26  <Luukland> ouch, well, first you need to checkout the svn source

13:08:27  <IceGuest_75> like C

13:08:44  <Luukland> if you use Tortoise in windows for example

13:09:17  <Luukland> u use windows?

13:09:20  <IceGuest_75> Yup

13:09:24  <IceGuest_75> So first step get Tortoise

13:09:27  <Luukland> yes

13:09:31  <Luukland> and checkout the svn

13:09:44  <IceGuest_75> Downloading it now

13:09:57  <Luukland> What compiler do you use on windows?

13:10:02  <IceGuest_75> None

13:10:12  <Luukland> will need one also :P

13:10:22  <IceGuest_75> I've used wy.... something for C

13:10:23  <IceGuest_75> I think

13:10:46  <IceGuest_75> cygwin !

13:10:47  <IceGuest_75> :D

13:11:11  <Luukland> cygwin is for linux right?

13:11:20  <IceGuest_75> Used it with netbeans

13:11:23  <IceGuest_75> I can't really remember

13:11:26  <dihedral> oh my word

13:11:27  <IceGuest_75> As i was doing it blindly

13:11:37  <dihedral> Rubidium, looks like 2 pro's have met eachother ^^

13:11:43  <IceGuest_75> But i did make a hello world and few micro projects on C

13:11:51  <Luukland> Uhu, well I would recommend visual C++ Express

13:11:55  <Luukland> With a free licence

13:12:15  <IceGuest_75> Getting visual C++ express too

13:13:17  <Luukland> There are some pages on the wiki with some more tools you would need

13:14:07  <Luukland> Here you have the link: http://wiki.openttd.org/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B_2008_Express_Editions

13:14:14  <Luukland> Follow these steps closely

13:14:18  <IceGuest_75> Ok

13:14:25  <IceGuest_75> visual c++ express vs visual studio 2008

13:14:48  <Luukland> Visual Express 2008

13:15:02  <Luukland> studio needs licence

13:15:24  <Luukland> Express = free

13:15:30  * dihedral extends his ignore list ^^

13:15:39  <dihedral> \o/

13:15:47  <IceGuest_75> I'm sure i could've found one for visual studio

13:15:56  <IceGuest_75> but i'll get express then if you insist

13:16:39  <Luukland> U ask me how to do it, so I tell you :p

13:16:46  <IceGuest_75> Yup

13:16:57  <Luukland> if you manage other way around, please be my guest :)

13:17:16  <IceGuest_75> No i'm fine with what i have :D

13:17:54  <Luukland> ok then the next step is understanding of the openttd source code

13:18:15  <deBoerIsTroef> Done!

13:18:25  <Luukland> just compile, test, change something, compile again, see if it works

13:18:34  <Luukland> also known as the "Scientific method"

13:19:00  <Luukland> What are u spamming about deBoerIsTroef?

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13:19:16  * deBoerIsTroef is done understanding the source code

13:19:23  <Luukland> good

13:19:25  <Luukland> for u

13:19:49  <IceGuest_75> Microsoft Silverlight Runtime Do i need this ?

13:19:53  <deBoerIsTroef> Nope

13:20:04  <IceGuest_75> It comes with the visual C++ isntall

13:20:04  <dihedral> you are done understanding ALL the source code??

13:20:05  <dihedral> nice

13:20:07  <dihedral> impressive

13:20:13  <Luukland> If you just need to compile OpenTTD it's enough if you don't select any options

13:20:27  <Luukland> read the wiki guide :P

13:20:38  <Luukland> http://wiki.openttd.org/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B_2008_Express_Editions

13:20:45  <IceGuest_75> Ok

13:21:17  <deBoerIsTroef> dihedral: I _was_ being a bit ironic of course... i thought it was funny to call the next step 'understanding the source code' ;)

13:21:21  <deBoerIsTroef> kind of a big step :)

13:22:16  <Luukland> still if you want ever to reach the top, you need to understand every part below you

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13:22:33  <Luukland> understand isn't the same as knowing

13:22:57  <IceGuest_75> Till visual express installs i'm going to wash the dishes before they rot in the sink

13:22:59  <IceGuest_75> so brb

13:23:55  <Luukland> You also need to understand clients and servers IceGuest_75

13:24:21  *** fjb_ is now known as fjb

13:24:23  <Luukland> and then, patch, play and enjoy (something some others have problems with)

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13:37:59  * IceGuest_75[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes

13:42:58  <IceGuest_75[A]> restarting pC

13:42:59  <IceGuest_75[A]> brb

13:43:01  * Eddi|zuHause petitions for an auto-away-kick

13:43:50  * Luukland signs it

13:44:13  <IceGuest_75[A]> bah DirectX Software Development Kit 468 MB

13:44:15  <IceGuest_75[A]> Brb :)

13:45:09  <Goulp> DirectX: just for music playing

13:45:55  <Belugas> hello

13:45:58  <Belugas> music>

13:46:00  <Belugas> playing?

13:46:02  <Belugas> yeah!

13:46:06  <Goulp> Helo Belugas

13:46:10  <Belugas> where's my guit???

13:46:23  <Goulp> in the central heating

13:46:40  <Luukland> heated up until 80 degree

13:46:46  <Luukland> warming my cosy little cottage

13:52:12  <Eddi|zuHause> how much is that in real temperatures?

13:53:25  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc(80-27)*5/9

13:53:30  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (80-27)*5/9

13:53:30  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 29.4444444444

13:53:52  <Eddi|zuHause> that can't be right...

13:55:42  <Goulp> he didnt precise the real unit of degree (°C, °K, ...)

13:56:11  <Luukland> K does not excist actually

13:56:14  <Luukland> its K

13:56:21  <Goulp> right

13:56:28  * Goulp thought °F

13:59:51  <Luukland> Graden celsius	Fahrenheit	F =  C  1.8 + 32

14:00:13  <Luukland> @calc (80-32)/1,8

14:00:13  <DorpsGek> Luukland: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.

14:00:23  <Luukland> @calc ((80-32)/1,8)

14:00:23  <DorpsGek> Luukland: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.

14:00:44  <Luukland> @calc ((80-32)/(1+4/5))

14:00:44  <DorpsGek> Luukland: 26.6666666667

14:01:10  <Eddi|zuHause> so, 32, why did i remember that as 27?

14:01:40  <Luukland> I dunno?

14:02:03  <Eddi|zuHause> and why does my table not feature this conversion?

14:02:13  <Luukland> I dunno either

14:03:10  <Luukland> Fahrenheit	Raumur	Re = (F - 32) / 2.25

14:03:49  <Luukland> @calc ((80-32)/(9/4))

14:03:49  <DorpsGek> Luukland: 21.3333333333

14:03:54  <Luukland> That is it :)

14:04:18  <Eddi|zuHause> google says 26.666...

14:04:24  <Luukland> my cosy little cottage temperature

14:04:37  <Luukland> then the bot must be broken

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14:06:19  <Eddi|zuHause> Réaumur is some different scale...

14:06:35  <Eddi|zuHause> where 100°C = 80°R

14:07:17  <Eddi|zuHause> according to my table...

14:09:11  <Goulp> Linear ?

14:09:41  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, temperature scales tend to be linear (at least it doesn't tell any different here)

14:10:02  <Eddi|zuHause> 0°C=0°R and 100°C=80°R

14:10:08  <Eddi|zuHause> 0°C=32°F and 100°C=212°F

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14:17:26  <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, 26°C sounds a little high for a room temperature

14:18:07  <IceGuest_75[A]> depends on what you're wearing Eddi|zuHause

14:18:40  <Eddi|zuHause> shorts and a t-shirt, and it can't be more than 18°C in here...

14:19:08  <IceGuest_75[A]> 25 oC in my room

14:19:15  <IceGuest_75[A]> Heater on

14:20:31  <Eddi|zuHause> is romania continental or mediterranean climate?

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14:21:03  <Eddi|zuHause> or something else?

14:21:56  <IceGuest_75[A]> between temperate and continental.

14:22:48  <IceGuest_75[A]> You'd have temperatures between -25 oC and 30 oC

14:22:50  <Eddi|zuHause> continental is part of temperate... temperate is split into oceanic and continental

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14:23:32  <IceGuest_75[A]> Pretty decent air OC on computers in the winter

14:23:35  <IceGuest_75[A]> =)

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14:23:54  <Eddi|zuHause> where oceanic zone is britain, intermediate zone in central europe and continental is in russia

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14:24:03  <IceGuest_75[A]> I hate geography.

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14:24:39  <IceGuest_75[A]> or meteorology

14:25:14  <Oberzten> guys

14:25:16  <Oberzten> its k

14:25:18  <Eddi|zuHause> the difference is that oceanic has little variation between summer and winter, and continental has high variation

14:25:20  <Oberzten> imbakiddo is here

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14:26:01  <Eddi|zuHause> it's imba, he should be nerfed

14:26:07  <Imbaaa> indeed

14:26:12  <Belugas> hoooooo.... that is such a good news!  I'm all excited

14:26:30  <Imbaaa> Luukland sap

14:27:07  <Imbaaa> Luukland's goalserver starting in 3 min!!

14:27:21  <Imbaaa> be there and see my imba skills

14:27:51  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think anybody cares

14:28:05  <Imbaaa> thats too sad

14:29:33  <Imbaaa> is people here all about coding and programming stuff?

14:30:26  <Belugas> well... for sure, not admiring the skills of all newcomers...

14:30:43  <Sacro> printf("Oh yes");

14:30:51  <Belugas> coding, programming, ttd talking, enjoying life in general

14:31:23  * Goulp wonders if he can remove his coat or has to  wait stable temperature

14:31:49  <Belugas> dpends what is your goal :)

14:31:59  <Goulp> i have a goal server

14:33:22  <Imbaaa> mby im a newcomer here

14:33:44  <Goulp> wellnewcome then

14:33:52  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ok

14:33:56  <IceGuest_75[A]> installed direct X SDK

14:33:57  <Belugas> indeed, and enjoy life

14:34:04  <IceGuest_75[A]> Next openttd_useful.zip ?

14:34:22  <Goulp> yes, and dont forget to updates includes and lib folders

14:34:38  <Belugas> is it next step on the install sheet of the wiki?  been so long...

14:34:44  <IceGuest_75[A]> updates includes and lib folders ?

14:35:16  <Goulp> yes, in order for the compiler, then the linker to use the include files and lib files

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14:35:45  <IceGuest_75[A]> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-openttd-useful

14:35:56  <IceGuest_75[A]> You are reffering to this: Headers/libraries to compile with MSVC for Windows  ?

14:37:01  <Goulp> http://wiki.openttd.org/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B_2008_Express_Editions

14:37:21  <IceGuest_75[A]> Oh

14:37:23  <Goulp> Copying from OpenTTD needed includes and libraries

14:37:25  <IceGuest_75[A]> Haven't reached that point yet :D

14:37:36  <Goulp> you have some extra stuff to do

14:38:11  <Goulp> from SDK : Go to Tools -> Options, then to Projects and Solutions -> VC++ Directories. Add the following lines:

14:38:18  <Imbaaa> http://stefan.bleibinhaus.de/ottd-archive/EternalRankings.html

14:38:23  <Imbaaa> miss u :):)

14:39:42  <IceGuest_75[A]> Imbaaa

14:39:49  <Goulp> hey i'm at 784

14:40:00  <IceGuest_75[A]> I'm looking at position 412

14:40:18  <IceGuest_75[A]> Wtf is with the Login Logged in as Kurt

14:41:47  <Imbaaa> because he took the screenshot

14:41:58  <IceGuest_75[A]> Goulp Go to Tools -> Options, then to Projects and Solutions -> VC++ Directories. Add the following lines:

14:42:03  <IceGuest_75[A]> I do this in visual express ?

14:42:08  <Imbaaa> or not the screenshot

14:42:12  <Imbaaa> but made the list

14:42:18  <Imbaaa> from several pages

14:42:37  <Imbaaa> mby he forgot to remove something from the side

14:42:38  <Goulp> yessss

14:42:40  <Imbaaa> dunno

14:43:09  <IceGuest_75[A]> Imbaaa it has a html submit input

14:43:14  <IceGuest_75[A]> That's not a screenshot =)

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14:43:30  <Imbaaa> ye i figured

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14:53:49  <Luukland> back

14:56:26  <Imbaaa> yao

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14:56:39  <Luukland> Woah :)

14:56:50  <Imbaaa> im playing to win now

14:57:01  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ok

14:57:01  <IceGuest_75[A]> Well

14:57:04  <Luukland> Woah nice

14:57:05  <IceGuest_75[A]> I've downloaded the useful zip

14:57:14  <IceGuest_75[A]> I had 4 archieve

14:57:18  <IceGuest_75[A]> i extracted from them also

14:57:27  <IceGuest_75[A]> But i can't find \shared\include

14:57:30  <Imbaaa> -7k though

14:57:35  <Luukland> Hmmmm IceGuest_75[A]

14:57:46  <Luukland> Maybe openntd useful 2.3 is better to use

14:57:50  <Luukland> then the newer 2.4

14:57:57  <IceGuest_75[A]> "then" ?

14:58:42  <IceGuest_75[A]> The one i downloaded is openttd-useful-2.4-source

14:58:45  <Luukland> yeah

14:58:52  <Luukland> they updated it recently

14:59:04  <IceGuest_75[A]> Did i get the wrong one ?

15:00:11  <Luukland> I dunno

15:00:15  <Luukland> it should be the same

15:00:29  <Luukland> can you google for the 2.3?

15:00:37  <Luukland> if the /shared is in that one

15:00:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> http://binaries.openttd.org/extra/openttd-useful/2.3/

15:00:49  <IceGuest_75[A]> I'll download it now

15:02:56  <IceGuest_75[A]> openttd-useful-2.3-source

15:03:02  <IceGuest_75[A]> Can't find shared folder in this one either

15:03:19  <Luukland> skip the shared folder step :P

15:03:21  <Luukland> I dunno

15:03:30  <IceGuest_75[A]> Copying from OpenTTD needed includes and libraries

15:03:33  <IceGuest_75[A]> Seems pretty important

15:04:00  <deBoerIsTroef> IceGuest_75[A]: you really need to get 2.4

15:04:00  <deBoerIsTroef> http://binaries.openttd.org/extra/openttd-useful/2.4/

15:04:06  <Luukland> ah yeah

15:04:09  <Luukland> that step

15:04:13  <IceGuest_75[A]> Which one should i download?

15:04:16  <Luukland> there is a minor button at the top

15:04:19  <Luukland> 2.4

15:04:20  <Luukland> :)

15:04:32  <deBoerIsTroef> http://binaries.openttd.org/extra/openttd-useful/2.4/openttd-useful-2.4-win.zip

15:04:39  <IceGuest_75[A]> Oh

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15:04:48  <Luukland> just click everything

15:04:49  <Luukland> :P

15:05:17  <IceGuest_75[A]> Thanks deBoerIsTroef

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15:09:06  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ok

15:09:07  <IceGuest_75[A]> Now

15:09:13  <IceGuest_75[A]> Connected to svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk

15:09:30  <IceGuest_75[A]> Do i copy everything ?

15:09:40  <Luukland> create new project

15:09:44  <Luukland> svn checkout

15:09:56  <IceGuest_75[A]> Where?

15:10:07  <Luukland> right click

15:10:07  <IceGuest_75[A]> in Visual Express ?

15:10:10  <Luukland> no

15:10:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> right click -> Checkout...

15:10:32  <Luukland> yes

15:10:44  <IceGuest_75[A]> Checkout directory wherever i want to right>?

15:10:48  <Goulp> need to choose trunk or particular relase from tags

15:11:09  <IceGuest_75[A]> i've clicked on Trunk

15:11:34  <Luukland> you can checkout to any directory

15:11:47  <Luukland> trunk = rblabla

15:11:59  <Luukland> you can also checkout release 0.7.3

15:12:04  <IceGuest_75[A]> checking out now :D

15:12:33  <IceGuest_75[A]> Done

15:13:11  <IceGuest_75[A]> Open projects/openttd_vs90.sln. This will open your IDE with the project loaded

15:13:38  <Luukland> yeah, there are 2 of them or even 3 in the folder

15:13:44  <Luukland> you need to pick the right one

15:13:44  <IceGuest_75[A]> dd the DirectX headers subdirectory through the openttd project properties -> C/C++ -> General -> Additional Include Directories

15:14:09  <IceGuest_75[A]> Huh?

15:16:16  <IceGuest_75[A]> I don't understand

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15:16:34  <Luukland> that is if you want to compile :

15:16:44  <Luukland> I will ask

15:16:50  <Luukland> brb

15:16:54  <deBoerIsTroef> weekend!

15:18:06  <IceGuest_75[A]> Sebastian and Desolator (aka Mircea Chirea) for creating/updating the Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Express guide.

15:18:15  <IceGuest_75[A]> Mircea Chirea is Romanian :D

15:18:44  <Eddi|zuHause> so?

15:18:52  <Luukland> TROLLS!!

15:18:59  <Luukland> and what did I say about trolls?!

15:19:04  <Luukland> DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

15:19:08  <Luukland> I warn you all

15:19:15  * IceGuest_75[A] laughs

15:20:28  <Chris_Booth> nom nom nom

15:20:35  <Chris_Booth> thanks for the Troll food

15:20:35  <deBoerIsTroef> IceGuest_75[A] so what, you are romanian too. (or at least, you are in Bucuresti)

15:20:49  <Eddi|zuHause> but it's friday...

15:20:52  <IceGuest_75[A]> deBoerIsTroef hacked me

15:20:55  <Imbaaa> we be trollin'

15:21:00  <Eddi|zuHause> friday is feed the trolls day...

15:21:59  <Imbaaa> soon its kick a ginger day

15:22:06  <Imbaaa> we be kickin'

15:22:25  <Eddi|zuHause> what's a ginger?

15:22:32  <Luukland> red hairy

15:22:34  <Luukland> troll!!

15:22:48  <Luukland> Goulp need help here

15:22:56  <Luukland> they are about to feed the trolls!

15:23:05  <deBoerIsTroef> IceGuest_75[A]: did you install the DirectX SDK?

15:24:58  * Goulp feeds the bird

15:25:27  <Chris_Booth> Ohh ginger tolls they are Troll with red hair from Scotland

15:25:30  <MyCatVerbs> Eddi|zuHause: really mean, horrid, basically racist slang term for human being with red hair.

15:26:00  <Chris_Booth> Eddi|zuHause: these people can also be called lepracorn and gingas

15:26:35  <MyCatVerbs> Eddi|zuHause: it's funny because it's actually just as hurtful to yell 'ginger!' at someone as most other racial slurs, but political correctness hasn't actually noticed yet. :P

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15:27:24  <Chris_Booth> well MyCatVerbs i think it is more hurtfull as some racis slag can be correct

15:27:32  <MyCatVerbs> Hence Tim Minchin's song "Taboo" at the Secret Policeman's Ball one year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0IVuGK7sAw

15:27:36  <Chris_Booth> yet it is never correct to call someone ginger

15:27:47  <deBoerIsTroef> ooooh it's going totally offtopic here

15:27:53  <Chris_Booth> Tim Minchin is a ledgend

15:28:12  <MyCatVerbs> Chris_Booth: it isn't accurate? How does that work?

15:28:33  <MyCatVerbs> Also, seconded. Tim Minchin++.

15:29:14  <Chris_Booth> well no one that you call ginger is actualy ginger

15:29:27  <Chris_Booth> MyCatVerbs: ginger is a root of a plant used in cooking

15:29:39  <Chris_Booth> so how can someone with red hair be a ginger?

15:30:00  <MyCatVerbs> It's also the name of a hair colour.

15:30:14  <Chris_Booth> yet if you call someone from pakistan a pakki (ok it is very nasty term) and i dont like the work, but it is correct

15:30:30  <Chris_Booth> not realy the hair colour is abourn

15:31:15  <Imbaaa> LOL GUYS THERE IS A ABOURN

15:31:18  <Imbaaa> OMOMOMOMOGM

15:31:27  <Chris_Booth> lol

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15:33:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> deBoerIsTroef Yes

15:33:30  <IceGuest_75[A]> Sorry i was afk

15:33:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> I also added the folders like wiki said

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15:34:40  <IceGuest_75[A]> But i don't understand how to do this step: dd the DirectX headers subdirectory through the openttd project properties -> C/C++ -> General -> Additional Include Directories

15:34:59  <Luukland> easy

15:35:01  <Luukland> go to options

15:35:06  <Luukland> properties :p

15:35:12  <Luukland> Next -> C/C++

15:35:18  <Luukland> Etc etc :p

15:35:20  <Goulp> IceGuest_75[A]: follow steps

15:35:23  <Luukland> Yeah :P

15:35:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> Proprities?

15:36:16  <Goulp> select project properties

15:36:43  <Goulp> take care to use modify both config (Debug & Release) together

15:36:46  <IceGuest_75[A]> Tools -> Options

15:37:13  <IceGuest_75[A]> I'm confused

15:37:32  <IceGuest_75[A]> Or Project -> Proprieties

15:37:37  <Goulp> which one are you playig with ? (2005 or 2008)

15:37:45  <IceGuest_75[A]> 2008

15:38:07  <Goulp> is step sdk fully made ?

15:38:17  <IceGuest_75[A]> I think so

15:38:43  <Goulp> also add include folder and lib files to vc++ direcorties ?

15:38:45  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ok

15:38:46  <IceGuest_75[A]> Im there

15:38:46  <IceGuest_75[A]>  openttd project properties -> C/C++ -> General -> Additional Include Directories

15:38:57  <IceGuest_75[A]> Yes gouki

15:38:59  <IceGuest_75[A]> Goulp*

15:39:38  <IceGuest_75[A]> ..\objs\langs;..\src\3rdparty\squirrel\include this is what i have there

15:39:43  <Goulp> so in the additional incl dir, you just add the folders from sdk include and openttdusedelfull includes

15:39:57  <Goulp> you should have a button to add a folder

15:40:20  <deBoerIsTroef> he's in project properties, not general folders for whole VC

15:40:34  <IceGuest_75[A]> That's correct deBoerIsTroef

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15:40:59  <deBoerIsTroef> gotta go, good luck

15:41:12  <IceGuest_75[A]> Thanks

15:41:22  <Goulp> then go to tools/options/projet&sol/vc++ dirs

15:41:39  <Goulp> from menu bar

15:41:55  <IceGuest_75[A]> Yes i'm there

15:42:19  <IceGuest_75[A]> i have the SDK\Include folder in Include FIles

15:42:24  <IceGuest_75[A]> At the bottom of the list

15:42:27  <Goulp> you shoud have a cmbox with displau folder for "type of file"

15:42:36  <Goulp> on upper right

15:42:48  <IceGuest_75[A]> And ottd essentials \ shared \ include   on the top of the list

15:42:48  <Goulp> choose in this box "include files"

15:42:54  <IceGuest_75[A]> This is for Include Files

15:43:03  <IceGuest_75[A]> I am there Goulp

15:43:21  <Goulp> the you shoud have a button to add folder

15:43:29  <IceGuest_75[A]> Yup

15:43:35  <Goulp> beeween check mark and delete cross

15:43:39  <IceGuest_75[A]> I know it

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15:43:54  <Goulp> then use this button to add the include folder for sdk

15:43:54  <IceGuest_75[A]> What do i add?

15:44:00  <IceGuest_75[A]> I already did that

15:44:13  <Goulp> ok, same for library

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15:44:25  <IceGuest_75[A]> i have added SDK\Include   and ottd essentials \ shared \ include

15:44:30  <Goulp> ah ok

15:44:33  <IceGuest_75[A]> I added in library too

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15:44:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> SDK \ Lib \ x86

15:44:46  <IceGuest_75[A]> and win32\library

15:44:55  <Goulp> then it should be ready to compile

15:45:00  <Luukland> Puram puram pam pam

15:45:02  <IceGuest_75[A]> Now i am looking at Compiling

15:45:05  <IceGuest_75[A]> http://wiki.openttd.org/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B_2008_Express_Editions

15:45:08  <Goulp> open the project

15:45:11  <IceGuest_75[A]> Add the DirectX headers subdirectory through the openttd project properties -> C/C++ -> General -> Additional Include Directories

15:45:15  <IceGuest_75[A]> It's open

15:45:17  <IceGuest_75[A]> ed*

15:45:20  <Goulp> you checkout the trunk ?

15:45:25  <IceGuest_75[A]> Yes

15:45:35  <Goulp> then start the build

15:45:36  <IceGuest_75[A]> Opened projects/openttd_vs90.sln

15:45:57  <IceGuest_75[A]> How do i add directx headers subdirectory through the openttd project properties

15:46:17  <IceGuest_75[A]> I am in C/C++ -> General -> Additional Include Directories But don't know what to do

15:46:30  <Goulp> if sdk folder has been alreadey added, there is no need to do it again

15:46:39  <IceGuest_75[A]> Oh ok

15:46:51  <Goulp> so project open, then request for a build

15:46:59  <Goulp> and watch output window

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15:47:30  <IceGuest_75[A]> objs/Win32/Debug. where is this ?

15:47:51  <Goulp> in the openttd folder

15:48:14  <Goulp> openttd project folder

15:48:15  <Eddi|zuHause> IceGuest_75[A]: subdirectories of your checkout

15:49:09  <IceGuest_75[A]> Eddi|zuHause nope

15:49:33  <IceGuest_75[A]> Folders i have in the checkout are .svn (hidden) bin docs media os projects src

15:49:36  <Goulp> Debug will be created as soon as you request a build to the compiler

15:49:41  <Eddi|zuHause> IceGuest_75[A]: they only exist once you made a successful build

15:49:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ok

15:49:58  <IceGuest_75[A]> Building solution now

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15:52:25  <IceGuest_75[A]> Wow

15:52:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> I guess it will take some time

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15:52:47  <IceGuest_75[A]> Shows on the status bar on the bottom Ln 300

15:52:52  <IceGuest_75[A]> I believe that's line 300 ?

15:53:02  <IceGuest_75[A]> How many lines are there?

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15:54:35  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ah

15:54:36  <IceGuest_75[A]> 400 :D

15:54:37  <IceGuest_75[A]>  Build: 4 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========

15:56:02  <IceGuest_75[A]> SVN\projects\Debug

15:56:12  <IceGuest_75[A]> == objs/Win32/Debug  ?

15:56:29  <Goulp> then you have a win32 binary

15:56:34  <Imbaaa> ITS OVER 9000!!!

15:56:44  <Luukland> 9000??!

15:56:46  <IceGuest_75[A]> objs/Win32/Debug is the one who wiki is refering to

15:56:51  <IceGuest_75[A]> But i can't find this folder

15:57:10  <Imbaaa> like in this is sparta

15:58:29  <Luukland> IceGuest use windows search :P

15:58:37  <IceGuest_75[A]> OH

15:58:38  <IceGuest_75[A]> LOL

15:58:39  * Luukland grabs a stone

15:58:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> I'm blind sorry

15:58:50  <Goulp> in the folder created by svn you should have an objs folder

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15:59:26  <IceGuest_75[A]> the combination of the letter objs somehow made a camoflauge

15:59:57  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ok

16:00:02  <IceGuest_75[A]> Copied data folder from the game

16:00:05  <IceGuest_75[A]> to the debug folder

16:00:14  <IceGuest_75[A]> Now what?

16:00:23  <Goulp> start openttd

16:00:26  <IceGuest_75[A]> openttd.exe should work

16:00:33  <IceGuest_75[A]> Error

16:00:38  <IceGuest_75[A]> No available Language Packs

16:00:47  <IceGuest_75[A]> (invalid versions?)

16:00:49  <Luukland> download the latest R19000

16:00:52  <Goulp> they are in the bin folder

16:00:53  <Luukland> or R1800

16:00:54  <Luukland> @ver

16:00:57  <Luukland> @ ver

16:01:00  <Luukland> >_<

16:01:16  * Goulp slaps luukland with a troll

16:01:29  <Luukland> @reversion

16:01:37  <Luukland> At what are we nw?

16:01:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> Where do i put them ?

16:01:51  <Luukland> in the lang folder :p

16:01:52  <Luukland> lolz

16:02:08  <Goulp> same place as data folder

16:03:07  <IceGuest_75[A]> Failed to find a sound set

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16:04:11  <IceGuest_75[A]> no sound folder in bin hehe

16:04:42  <Luukland> so :p

16:04:45  <Luukland> play without sound :p

16:04:51  <IceGuest_75[A]> It doesn't start

16:04:54  <IceGuest_75[A]> It gives that error

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16:05:18  <Goulp> sample.cat file ok ?

16:05:22  <Rubidium> simple... it can't find the data directory and the important files in there

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16:06:22  <IceGuest_75[A]> I have sample.cat in there alright

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16:06:36  <Goulp> and all trg* stuff

16:06:53  <Rubidium> ... and those pesky .obs/obg files?

16:06:56  <IceGuest_75[A]> Rubidium i did copy the data folder from my game

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16:07:25  <Rubidium> not to mention openttd[dw].grf

16:08:01  <IceGuest_75[A]> This is what my data folder contains:    openttdd.grf openttdw.grf opntitle.dat orig_dos.obg orig_dos_de.obg orig_win.obg sample.cat trg1r.grf trgcr hr ir tr

16:08:48  <IceGuest_75[A]> where do i get the missing files?

16:08:51  <Rubidium> so you're missing the obs file(s)

16:08:58  <Rubidium> in the bin/data directory in your checkout

16:09:03  <IceGuest_75[A]> Oh.

16:09:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> Replace existing files i believe?

16:09:45  <Rubidium> those files are generally also the files you want to have in the data folder instead whatever you copied from somewhere else, otherwise you might get missing graphics

16:09:50  <IceGuest_75[A]> YAY

16:10:09  <IceGuest_75[A]> Yeah i will put them in my game also

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16:11:10  <IceGuest_75[A]> Hurray!

16:11:29  <IceGuest_75[A]> Thanks for the help so far

16:11:34  <IceGuest_75[A]> Luukland now what :D /

16:12:08  <Goulp> Now, start to modify source code with your needs

16:12:12  <Luukland> Understanding the code :)

16:12:26  <IceGuest_75[A]> No man ?

16:12:26  <Luukland> Change something, test :)

16:12:26  <Luukland> and change more

16:12:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> Manual*

16:12:33  <Goulp> put your name in the about box

16:12:37  <Luukland> xD

16:12:44  <Luukland> start with that

16:12:51  <IceGuest_75[A]> ok :D

16:18:29  <IceGuest_75[A]> Umm

16:18:52  <IceGuest_75[A]> Can't find a file related to it

16:19:14  <IceGuest_75[A]> Any folder you might suggest?

16:19:31  <Luukland> xD

16:19:34  <Luukland> Nice start :p

16:19:39  <IceGuest_75[A]> Yeah :(

16:19:54  <IceGuest_75[A]> My first bet was lang files

16:20:02  <Luukland> Naha

16:20:13  <Luukland> just search for rubidium in the files

16:20:17  <Luukland> and delete his name

16:24:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> misc_gui

16:25:14  <Luukland> change it

16:25:16  <Luukland> compile

16:25:21  <Luukland> and see if you succeeded

16:25:50  <IceGuest_75[A]> Building

16:26:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> Worked!

16:27:37  <Luukland> Good

16:27:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> Now i should try to make the game 3D right?

16:27:51  <Luukland> well next step is set max loan to 600000

16:27:54  <IceGuest_75[A]> As in 360 spin

16:27:56  <Luukland> instead of the 500.000

16:28:00  <Goulp> 3D hollogram in the middle of the room

16:28:03  <Luukland> cos Who cares about soo little loan

16:28:03  <Luukland> :P

16:28:09  <IceGuest_75[A]> On it Luukland

16:28:29  <Luukland> or make the max loan 400000000000

16:28:32  <Luukland> Whatever you like :)

16:28:47  <Goulp> maxloan : config setting...

16:29:06  <Luukland> still max is defined in source

16:29:12  <Goulp> sure

16:29:16  <Luukland> since 80000000 will be capped :)

16:33:57  <IceGuest_75[A]> should it be in economy.cpp ?

16:41:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> _economy.max_loan = (_settings_game.difficulty.max_loan * _economy.inflation_prices >> 16) / 50000 * 50000;

16:41:43  <IceGuest_75[A]> Is this it?

16:42:57  <Goulp> yeap

16:42:59  <Luukland> uhu uhu

16:43:30  <Luukland> now make it 2Million

16:43:31  <IceGuest_75[A]> >> 16 ?

16:43:32  <Luukland> :)

16:43:33  <IceGuest_75[A]> What

16:43:36  <IceGuest_75[A]> What's that ?

16:43:56  <Goulp> bitshift to right 16 pos

16:43:56  <Luukland> Hmmmm looks like bit steps to me

16:44:08  <IceGuest_75[A]> Uhu...

16:44:28  <IceGuest_75[A]> I'll just mess with the numbers see what happens

16:44:48  <Luukland> :)

16:46:02  <Luukland> its easy, loan goes from 100K to 500K

16:46:05  <Luukland> which is 400K

16:46:12  <Luukland> 400/50 = 8

16:46:16  <Luukland> 8 x 2 = 16 :P

16:46:38  <Luukland> Naahh dunno

16:46:44  <IceGuest_75[A]> _economy.max_loan = (_settings_game.difficulty.max_loan * _economy.inflation_prices >> 16) / 50000 * 50000;

16:46:54  <IceGuest_75[A]> What's the use of   /  50000 * 50000

16:46:58  <IceGuest_75[A]> It's the same thing without it

16:47:01  <Luukland> step size?

16:47:15  <Luukland> I dunno

16:47:16  <Luukland> :P

16:47:19  <Luukland> change it

16:47:20  <IceGuest_75[A]> 10/2 * 2 = 10

16:47:25  <IceGuest_75[A]> I did nothing happened

16:48:48  <IceGuest_75[A]> I don't think it's that

16:49:52  <IceGuest_75[A]> I mean i changed it to _economy.max_loan = (_settings_game.difficulty.max_loan >> 10) ;

16:49:56  <IceGuest_75[A]> SOmething should have happened

16:50:02  <IceGuest_75[A]> But the maximum amount is still 500k

16:50:44  <Xaroth> IceGuest_75[A]: it's for rounding

16:50:57  <Xaroth> it means that it'll be rounded to the nearest 50000

16:51:06  <IceGuest_75[A]> Oh

16:51:10  <IceGuest_75[A]> Aaaah yes

16:52:21  <Xaroth> and the fact it's >> 16 doesn't mean there's 16 steps :P

16:53:25  <Xaroth> a small hint, set your max loan difficulty setting to max, quit, open config, check max_loan config entry

16:53:34  <Xaroth> set it to minimum, quit, check max_loan config entry

16:54:14  <Xaroth> inflation adjustment comes with time played, as you'll also notice that your effective max loan changes while playing

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16:55:46  <IceGuest_75[A]> Xaroth you are reffering the one in My Documents?

16:55:49  <IceGuest_75[A]> Openttd.cfg ?

16:56:08  <Xaroth> the one that's being saved to, dependant on your environment and what args you're giving it :)

16:56:16  <Xaroth> but most commonly, for windows users, the one in my documents

16:56:24  <IceGuest_75[A]> I'm trying to make it possible in the game to increase the limit to 1 mil pounds

16:56:42  <IceGuest_75[A]> Or is the limit stated in the config as well? :D

16:56:45  <Xaroth> er, then check the limitations on _settings_game.difficulty.max_loan?

16:56:57  <IceGuest_75[A]> That's what i'm trying to find out

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16:57:11  <Xaroth> then don't check where it's being applied, check where it's being validated and/or loaded :)

16:57:47  <Xaroth> the game will force it to be within certain bounds, change those bounds and yer pretty much done.. maybe some tweaking of the difficulty menu to allow for bigger ranges (if that even applies)

16:57:53  <Xaroth> time for me to go out for dinner

16:58:07  <IceGuest_75[A]> enjoy dinner

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17:05:51  <IceGuest_75[A]> Damn gotta go

17:06:07  <IceGuest_75[A]> Be back later tonight >3 hours

17:06:13  <IceGuest_75[A]> thanks again for the help

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17:18:05  <_ln> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6507969/Adolf-Hitler-was-a-German-football-coach-say-one-in-20-children.html

17:18:55  <Eddi|zuHause> british children?

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17:20:20  <Luukland> >_<

17:20:23  <Luukland> Trolls!!

17:20:30  * Luukland makes the alarm sound

17:20:56  <_ln> probably british

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17:21:34  <Eddi|zuHause> well, american children wouldn't know that german has a "Football" team

17:21:53  <Eddi|zuHause> +y

17:22:10  <Prof_Frink> Football teamy?

17:22:49  <Eddi|zuHause> reminds me: "Why does the german military vehicles have an 'Y' on their license plate?" - "Because it's the end of Germany."

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17:26:28  <Eddi|zuHause> i wonder how many british children can tell Frederic I "Barbarossa" and Frederic II "the Great" apart

17:27:17  <Luukland> guys how to make   scoresystem.png      show in a wiki?

17:27:43  <Luukland> <img> </img>

17:28:08  <Luukland> Blergh

17:28:10  <Luukland> not working

17:28:47  <Eddi|zuHause> ever tried the wiki formatting help??

17:29:04  <Luukland> Yeah, but it broke on ours

17:29:29  <Luukland> there should be a normal img button in the edit box

17:29:32  <Luukland> but someone broke it

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17:31:11  <Eddi|zuHause> then make a bug report?

17:31:20  <Luukland> xD

17:35:20  <frosch123> who is frederic ii ?

17:35:34  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: king of prussia

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17:36:25  <frosch123> which century? 18, 19?

17:36:32  <Eddi|zuHause> 18th

17:37:26  <Eddi|zuHause> one of the most influental persons of that time... his actions still have effect in modern germany (e.g. code of law, or the widespread use of potatos)

17:37:46  <frosch123> ah, the potato guy

17:39:01  <Eddi|zuHause> he also let the hugenottes settle in prussia, and as a humanistic leader spread the idea of freedom of religion

17:39:11  <Prof_Frink> King of the potato people!

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17:40:06  <Eddi|zuHause> his reforms are also responsible that there was no revolution in prussia similar to the one in france

17:40:42  <Eddi|zuHause> and in his fights with the french he helped england win their fights with the french over the new world

17:41:45  <Eddi|zuHause> [but the expensive war and the resulting taxation was one of the major reasons for the american declaration of independence]

17:42:09  <frosch123> now you quote wiki, right?

17:42:22  <Eddi|zuHause> no, why would i?

17:42:34  <Rubidium> frosch123: wiki quoted him!

17:42:38  <Eddi|zuHause> read a book :p

17:42:39  <frosch123> :p

17:43:01  <frosch123> Chuck|zuHause

17:43:10  <Eddi|zuHause> :p

17:43:29  <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't know kung fu...

17:43:38  <Rubidium> I read my note book...

17:44:11  * frosch123 does not scribble on laptops

17:46:33  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: my history teacher was a huge Frederic II fan...

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18:18:16  <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly does this mean? "smartd[3950]: Device: /dev/sdc, SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 36 to 35"

18:19:02  <Belugas> hard drive stuff, i believe

18:19:09  <Belugas> interpretation? none to offer :(

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18:25:40  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: if you run smartctl manually it tells you acceptable values for every item

18:25:45  <frosch123> (iirc)

18:27:03  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it says "theshold 0", but it was constantly dropping over the last few hours...

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18:45:42  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17983 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files):

18:45:42  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

18:45:42  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_

18:45:42  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: italian - 1 changes by lorenzodv

18:45:42  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 86 changes by Devastator

18:45:44  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: serbian - 1 changes by etran

18:45:44  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: spanish - 1 changes by Terkhen

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19:19:33  <IceGuest_75[A]> back :D

19:20:28  <Luukland> Good :)

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19:24:31  <IceGuest_75[A]> OK I've just found something

19:25:06  <IceGuest_75[A]> SDT_CONDVAR(GameSettings, difficulty.max_loan,                 SLE_UINT32, 97, SL_MAX_VERSION, 0,NS|CR,300000,100000,500000,50000,STR_NULL,                               DifficultyChange),

19:25:14  <Eddi|zuHause> you should be looking for SOMEONE instead, so he could finally finish all those features

19:25:30  <Luukland> He is understanding the code

19:26:48  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but that's most likely not the (only) place he should be looking at

19:27:25  <IceGuest_75[A]> This is the limit 100000,500000

19:27:40  <Luukland> change it :P

19:27:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> Don't know what the other arguments are though

19:27:59  <Luukland> Doesn't matter :p

19:28:02  <Luukland> Change it :D

19:28:06  <Luukland> And hope it works

19:28:26  <IceGuest_75[A]> 100000,1000000000000000

19:28:27  <IceGuest_75[A]> :D

19:28:37  <Luukland> uhu uhu

19:28:42  <Eddi|zuHause> that's unlikely to work :p

19:28:47  <Luukland> I dunno

19:28:49  <Luukland> we will seee

19:29:13  <IceGuest_75[A]> Didn't work :D

19:29:19  <Luukland> Naha

19:29:29  <IceGuest_75[A]> Gives me value -1,530,494,976

19:29:33  <Luukland> xD

19:29:38  <Alberth> Using a cheat is so much easier :)

19:29:54  <IceGuest_75[A]> No cheats to make a !goal server tho'

19:29:58  <Luukland> Sounds like too many bits

19:30:06  <IceGuest_75[A]> Yeah Luukland

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19:32:08  <IceGuest_75[A]> Ok

19:32:09  <IceGuest_75[A]> Got an idea

19:32:14  <IceGuest_75[A]> I can borrow only 10k at a time

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19:32:23  <IceGuest_75[A]> let's see how we can make that 100k at a time

19:32:23  <andythenorth> evening

19:32:44  <IceGuest_75[A]> major problem: i'm out of coca cola

19:32:47  <IceGuest_75[A]> brb

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19:47:18  <IceGuest_75[A]> static const int LOAN_INTERVAL = 10000;

19:47:19  <IceGuest_75[A]> :D:D

19:48:24  <frosch123> you know ctrl-click ?

19:48:34  <IceGuest_75[A]> ?

19:48:44  <frosch123> ctrl+click on "borrow"

19:48:49  <IceGuest_75[A]> Nope

19:49:03  <IceGuest_75[A]> It maxes the loan ?

19:51:34  <IceGuest_75[A]> So i'm thinking now to modify so when a client uses /hello on the server the console would print "Hello World"

19:51:39  <IceGuest_75[A]> Can anyone teach me how ?

19:55:48  <Luukland> well you would need some coding experience for that

19:56:36  <IceGuest_75[A]> So i believe the game doesn't have a method to read what clients write in chat

19:56:41  <IceGuest_75[A]> and use it

19:58:05  <Rubidium> nope, what a client's user writes magically appears, without interaction of the game, on the screen of all the clients in the same game

19:58:27  <IceGuest_75[A]> =)

20:01:15  <IceGuest_75[A]> Rubidium so what should i look for to find the code that prints out what clients write ?

20:04:34  <Luukland> Better not ask Ruby those thing

20:04:41  <Luukland> He has better things to do

20:06:21  <andythenorth> meh.

20:06:26  <andythenorth> anything interesting happening?

20:12:35  <frosch123> in china a bag of rice just turned over

20:18:00  <IceGuest_75[A]> ./* Send a chat-packet over the network */

20:18:06  <IceGuest_75[A]> DEF_CLIENT_SEND_COMMAND_PARAM(PACKET_CLIENT_CHAT)

20:18:08  <IceGuest_75[A]> Is this it?

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20:21:39  <Pikka> mentlegen

20:23:55  <frosch123> hello bikkapird

20:26:41  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17984 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: make it possible to use MakeNWidgets using a custom container widget.

20:26:52  <andythenorth> hai hai pikka

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20:28:29  <andythenorth> Pikka: I can't believe p1jk won't go past 1960

20:28:36  <andythenorth> would you reconsider?

20:29:28  <frosch123> sounds interesting, i always considered the game boring after the 50's

20:29:52  <andythenorth> :P

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20:31:21  <andythenorth> so why aren't my vehicles going for servicing?  this baffles me

20:31:55  <andythenorth> it's 1924.  I'm looking at a road vehicle with 30 day servicing that last serviced in 1909

20:32:03  <andythenorth> it's driving past a depot

20:32:21  <andythenorth> this is r17858, but this problem's been kicking around for ages.

20:32:27  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17985 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the toolbar container support non-resizable widgets and subclassing of itself.

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20:34:55  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17986 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the scenario 'main' toolbar nested. Also make it implement the 'switch' toolbar feature when it gets really small.

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21:41:24  <Pikka> andy: breakdowns on?

21:41:32  <Pikka> oh, he left, oh well

21:43:47  <welshdragon> plus it was a road vehicle

21:44:20  <welshdragon> I'm yet to try PJ1K, i'll try it once there's more modern stuff

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21:58:50  <_ln> hmm, Dr. Soong in Enterprise

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22:53:33  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17987 /branches/0.7/src/ (13 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)

22:53:33  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk:

22:53:33  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] 'subtract-in' is also signed for production callback version 0 (r17857)

22:53:33  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] _date_fract runs from 0 to 73 since r2041. Variable 0x09 should not (r17824)

22:53:33  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not fail hard when no soundcard could be detected; just fall back on the null-driver [FS#3268] (r17788)

22:53:34  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: CJK languages do not have spaces, so for adding newlines (multi line strings) we need to (properly) handle the case when there are no spaces instead of truncating the string [FS#3264] (r17772)

22:53:36  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Powernaut Helicopter got wrong 'load amount' (r17758)

22:59:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17988 /branches/0.7/ (7 files in 3 dirs):

22:59:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk:

22:59:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Feature: Port OpenTTD to GNU/Hurd

22:59:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: When you start giving money (input window for amount), then get moved to spectators and you click 'Ok' a crash would occur (r17953)

22:59:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Crash when closing NewGRF parameter window with no NewGRF selected [FS#3291] (r17922)

22:59:08  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Uninitialised values in some paths of loading TTO savegames [FS#3288] (r17908)

22:59:10  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Make the plane speed setting unchangeable in network games because it can be read by NewGRFs on game load and thus if it changes cause desyncs (r17902)

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23:02:04  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17989 /branches/0.7/src/screenshot.cpp:

23:02:04  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk:

23:02:04  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Use 24bpp BMP format instead of 32bpp for screenshots. Saves space and is supported by more image viewers (r17943)

23:02:04  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Close BMP file when making screenshot fails (r17941)

23:02:04  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Deadlock when trying to create screenshot with too long name (including path) (r17936)

23:02:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: 32bpp BMP screenshots were in wrong colours on big endian machines and broken when screen width was not a multiple of 4 (r17910, r17909)

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23:18:32  <|Terkhen|> good night

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23:32:05  <HackaLittleBit> evenin

23:33:45  <welshdragon> hey

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23:53:19  <Ammler> why can't you switch to other base graphics set while running a game?

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