IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2009-05-05
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00:00:08 <Bjarni> the steam engine broke all the time and the railroad discarded it after a short while
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00:00:15 <Booth> IMO they should build more train the the BR class 222 HST
00:00:40 <Bjarni> they should build more trains [...]
00:00:50 <SHADOW-XIII> glx : is it ok file .tar.gz ?
00:01:54 <Booth> and i dont think maglev will take off
00:02:13 <Booth> as they wont be able to get it into old city cetres
00:02:21 <frosch123> they are not supposed to take off, that is for planes
00:02:34 <SHADOW-XIII> glx what about grf parameters?
00:03:24 <Booth> has anyone got ttd to work on an I-Phone yet?
00:03:29 <Bjarni> Japan is building a maglev line from Tokyo to Nagoya. I think they will make kind of like a bridge over roads in order to make them reach central stations inside those cities
00:03:38 <Ammler> you will still use the grf inside the tar, like you have unpacked it.
00:04:11 <Bjarni> basically they are expanding their test line so the speed of the test line is the speed of that new line
00:04:20 <Bjarni> they reached 588 km/h so far
00:04:44 <glx> grfs in tar works exactly like grfs outside tar
00:05:02 <SHADOW-XIII> glx so they will appear as separate files ?
00:06:10 <glx> openttd supports only uncompressed tar
00:06:16 <SmatZ> the idea is to have only 1 file handle for multiple files
00:06:38 <Ammler> which is kinda cool already.
00:06:48 <glx> indeed we use gzip for content download
00:06:53 <SHADOW-XIII> but grf's aren't much compressable
00:07:08 <glx> everything is compressible
00:07:27 <glx> you just need to find the most efficient algorithm
00:08:05 <SmatZ> by compressing GRFs you can ~half their size
00:08:23 <SmatZ> but they are already compressed (sprites use some kind of RLE)
00:08:26 <Booth> you use a .ar file then
00:08:30 <SHADOW-XIII> my data dir is like 70mb
00:08:44 <SHADOW-XIII> yay, win 7 rc today officialy
00:09:02 <SmatZ> again RC of another windows? :)
00:09:10 <Booth> why why do want a broken OS rc?
00:09:20 <SHADOW-XIII> from february am sitting on beta 1 of win 7
00:09:24 <Booth> wait until SP1 is released
00:09:52 <SHADOW-XIII> had problem with some drivers at the beginning but now it's ok
00:10:00 <SmatZ> hehe, yeah, I always wait for at least SP1 ;)
00:10:19 <Booth> wow SmatZ agrees with me for once
00:10:26 <Ammler> found a small glitch for non non-stop orders
00:11:05 <Ammler> I have default stop at far end, but trains stop on the middle
00:11:28 <SmatZ> hmhm it's not in their orders, right?
00:11:49 <Ammler> well, best would be you could define that anyway
00:11:59 <SHADOW-XIII> oh btw, what [far end] means ?
00:12:01 <Ammler> SmatZ: no, it is a station between
00:12:10 <SHADOW-XIII> and how to change it ?
00:12:27 <frosch123> in the middle? why that? i would have expected far end, as that one is 0
00:12:43 <Booth> middle far end, near end
00:12:59 <Ammler> well, far end should it be, if you can't configure it, imo.
00:12:59 <frosch123> hmm, no, near end is 0
00:13:09 <TinoDidriksen> Mmm, far pointers and near pointers...
00:13:16 <SHADOW-XIII> you know, there could 1 small thing be added. When I make "Transfer" order it could automatically add "and leave empty" instead "and take cargo" ....
00:13:25 <SmatZ> TinoDidriksen: and middle pointers :-p
00:14:24 <Ammler> but really cool would be, if you could define in the orders what to do on the stations between, like transfer and such
00:14:48 <SHADOW-XIII> and another idea: description panels are getting bigger to fit all description (like in GRF window) .... why not make it smaller and scrollable ?
00:15:08 <SHADOW-XIII> on smaller screens it would save a lot of precious space
00:15:28 <SmatZ> changed from green to black...
00:16:20 <SHADOW-XIII> Booth : yeah, I should carry laptop in my pocket all the time
00:17:50 <frosch123> "Default to the middle of the station for stations stops that are not in the order list like intermediate stations when non-stop is disabled" <- Ammler: it is intentional behaviour :)
00:18:49 * Bjarni gives up enhancing the picture
00:19:05 <Ammler> hmm, I heard sometime here, you don't change TTD behaviour without switch.
00:19:11 <Bjarni> it's too dark to begin with so I have nothing to work with when I increase brightness and stuff
00:22:12 <Ammler> frosch123: default means, it is changeable?
00:22:58 <frosch123> if you make the train longer than the platform, it will stop at the far end. despite of that you cannot influence that
00:23:25 <frosch123> train_cmd.cpp::GetTrainStopLocation() line 375
00:24:41 <frosch123> however, as there is no way to specify what to do at intermediate stations, imo middle is the best choice
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00:27:20 <Ammler> or using that setting?
00:27:47 <frosch123> that is a clientside setting :)
00:28:53 <Ammler> best solution is defining what to do in the intermediate stations.
00:30:16 <Ammler> or having it like it was to keep compatibility.
00:30:17 <frosch123> if you are volunteering for a patch you can also try to allow setting a timetabled waiting time for intermediate stations :p
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00:35:56 <Booth> any how i am off to bed now nn
01:03:54 <SHADOW-XIII> unfortunately putting GRFs in TAR does not fix the problem
01:04:10 <SHADOW-XIII> it still gives same error
01:05:34 <SHADOW-XIII> what about OBG files ? can they be TARred ?
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07:38:18 <petern> need to get dressed :s
07:43:14 <dihedral> petern: dont wanna know if you run around naked all day long
07:45:25 <dihedral> you run around in a dressing gown?? oh my word
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07:50:26 <dihedral> i dont have the time in the morning to slouch around in a dressing gown
07:50:33 <dihedral> and i dont feel female enough for that either
08:18:54 <petern> well, dressing gowns are not a female exclusive item, so... you can feel not female enough if you like.
08:35:39 <Eddi|zuHause> what's a "dressing gown"?
08:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause> what does that have to do with "female"?
08:36:55 <planetmaker> If you don't know you should explore your female part of yourself more closely :P
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08:37:50 <dihedral> i don't know any guys who wear such a 'thing'
08:37:58 <dihedral> i know a bunch of women who do :-P
08:37:58 <Eddi|zuHause> no really, i don't understand it
08:38:17 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause: would you wear one?
08:38:18 <planetmaker> in japan though, wearing a Kimono is quite common.
08:38:32 <dihedral> we are not in japan :-P
08:38:51 * dihedral removes the japan grf from planetmaker :-P
08:38:55 <petern> ^ he doesn't look girly
08:39:34 <petern> ^ he does a bit though, with that cigarette holder :p
08:39:55 <planetmaker> hehe @ dihedral :)
08:41:30 <dihedral> he looks like "i'll wear this with pride, because my daughters made this for me"
08:42:47 <Eddi|zuHause> my observation is that not "i have to explore my female part" but rather "dihedral is in fear of his female part"
08:43:18 <Eddi|zuHause> as in "getroffene Hunde bellen"
08:43:23 <dihedral> nonono - you aint gonna turn this round against me, just because petern feels feminine :-P
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08:44:20 <dihedral> i was more trying to pick on petern
08:44:21 * petern doesn't feel feminine by wearing a dressing gown in the morning
08:44:37 <petern> now, when i put on the panties and bra...
08:45:01 <petern> (which i don't, as that was a joke, heh)
08:45:07 <Noldo> what's wrong with feeling feminine anyway?
08:45:11 <Eddi|zuHause> like people who shout out the loudest against gay people are afraid of telling people they are gay themselves
08:45:20 <petern> Eddi|zuHause, what do you expect from a bible follower?
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08:46:14 <planetmaker> <Noldo> what's wrong with feeling feminine anyway? <-- certainly nothing. Half the human race would have a problem otherwise :)
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08:46:46 <dihedral> my cousin felt a bit too feminine
08:46:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well, half of the human race has a problem with feeling feminine
08:46:58 <Eddi|zuHause> and the other half are...
08:47:01 <petern> # flying killer cobs from the planet bob
08:49:14 <fonsinchen> I will feel feminine as long and as much as I want :)
08:50:41 <dihedral> hehe - i always assumed you were some kind of 'bunny' :-D
08:58:47 <planetmaker> morning TrueBrain
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09:25:05 <dihedral> patch from yorick ^^, that makes the thread even better :-D
09:26:24 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: no, nobody understood the joke...
09:27:08 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause: looks like Alberth knows what i am talking about
09:27:25 <Alberth> at least I think I know ;)
09:27:49 <TrueBrain> Alberth: well, it is not really development I guess
09:28:00 <TrueBrain> but if you have a piece of text for there, I can put it on
09:30:16 <Alberth> There are many users that cannot code, we may want to point them to things they can do. Translation is one, but wiki is another.
09:30:29 <Alberth> I agree however that 'development' may not be the right place.
09:31:21 <dihedral> TrueBrain: how's wt3 coming along?
09:32:00 <dihedral> Alberth: rename 'development' to 'contribute' ?
09:32:03 <TrueBrain> Alberth: maybe we can just rename the section .. but if you can write me a piece of text which should go under the subheader 'wiki', that would be useful; maybe talk it over with the other devs ;)
09:34:46 <planetmaker> I think the heading "development" is a good choice. But a indication what all those people who say "I'd like to help, but cannot code" could do is probably a good choice :)
09:35:11 <TrueBrain> "How to Contribute" you see a lot
09:35:16 <TrueBrain> but is a bit too long :p
09:35:23 <Alberth> I was thinking about 'helping out'
09:35:42 <Alberth> I like contribute too
09:36:22 <planetmaker> hm... helping out is bad wording, I think. It's like "if you want to do a tedious chore, we got some..."
09:36:38 <planetmaker> Contributing is then the far superior choice. It can be something more valuable :)
09:36:46 <planetmaker> IF it has to be changed, that is.
09:36:50 <TrueBrain> Contribute is more like: look at us, being all official
09:37:00 <TrueBrain> Helping out is more like: we are normal people and we can do with a bit of help
09:37:14 <planetmaker> well, also, but not only.
09:37:26 <TrueBrain> but okay, 'Contribute' alone is a bit silly in a header
09:37:27 <planetmaker> helping out is filling in for something which should be there but is missing
09:37:29 <TrueBrain> the rest is too long ;)
09:38:00 <planetmaker> like giving a hand in case of emergency.
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09:48:24 <TrueBrain> it also tells you how to report bugs
09:49:07 <dihedral> i personally don't find 'contribute' to be such a 'formal' word
09:49:44 <dihedral> and the menu is full of one word items
09:54:19 <petern> oh right, my forum name's changed
10:03:20 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you did request that :p
10:03:37 <petern> i expected to have to login again
10:03:48 <petern> but i didn't need to, heh
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10:34:58 <dihedral> Alberth: "Use of the forum search button to find the answer to your question." <- or the wiki's search function ^^
10:35:43 <Alberth> isn't that the trick to get high ratings then?
10:38:00 <dihedral> yes, but there is also info in the wiki - that's what i meant ^^
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10:55:07 <thingwath> it would be great if people were a little more... reasonable when choosing their usernames
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11:27:09 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: failed to press the right button?
11:27:57 <Eddi|zuHause> "reply" vs. "new topic"?
11:30:37 <dihedral> yep - just noticed and corrected :-P
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11:35:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i wanted to reply, but that would probably have prevented you from changing anything :p
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11:38:55 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause, :-P thanks
11:39:04 <Ammler> it is only trunk issue
11:39:33 <dihedral> add it in a comment :-P
11:39:58 <dihedral> + the name of the section
11:40:11 <dihedral> just 'new section' is not as specific ;-)
11:42:56 <Ammler> dihedral: read the thread first :P
11:43:29 <Ammler> well, I was kinda lazy the 2nd time :-)
11:45:03 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Commit by peter1138 :: r7319 trunk/newgrf_text.c (2006-12-01 12:57:31 UTC)
11:45:04 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: -Fix (r7182): (NewGRF) Add space for terminator when translating TTDPatch strings (thanks eddi)
11:46:14 <dihedral> terminator has space in strings?
11:46:20 <dihedral> he'll destroy them!!
11:46:47 <Eddi|zuHause> string theory... they must have had some way to create time travelling devices...
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12:16:11 <TrueBrain> k .. let's download Windows 7 RC1 :p
12:16:19 <TrueBrain> 5 MiB/s .. acceptable :)
12:16:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i heard that it will repeatedly shut down until you buy the real version
12:17:14 <planetmaker> only in August. (Or was it July?)
12:19:10 <Eddi|zuHause> "Ab März 2010 wird sich der RC automatisch alle zwei Stunden selbst herunterfahren, um den Nutzer so zum Umstieg auf die Verkaufsversion von Windows 7 zu bewegen."
12:20:18 <Gekz> it will turn off every 2 hours?
12:20:20 <planetmaker> buy windows or say bye to a running comp
12:20:37 <glx> TrueBrain: 291 KB/s here :)
12:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> starting march 2010
12:20:51 <Gekz> my german isnt as bad as I though
12:21:23 <glx> and it will start to warn 2 weeks before
12:22:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i wonder if there will be a crack for that ;)
12:23:01 <TrueBrain> you get it for free .. so some limit is acceptable I guess
12:23:45 <qkr> how do I transport new cargo types found on ECS, they don't all appear on train cars/refit
12:23:51 <glx> and it's usable for almost 1 year, that's not that bad
12:24:38 <Eddi|zuHause> qkr: search for "old wagons new cargos"
12:24:59 <Eddi|zuHause> should be in the online content download
12:25:04 <Ammler> how do I check if the server is virtual?
12:25:35 <Eddi|zuHause> try to make it beep ;)
12:26:05 <glx> check /proc/cpuinfo (weird values in it for my VM)
12:26:27 <TrueBrain> wonder why the fuck you don't know that already
12:26:53 <Ammler> TrueBrain: it isn't my server, we just are user, I would say, it isn't but not 100% sure.
12:27:03 <Eddi|zuHause> mail root@localhost ;)
12:27:09 <TrueBrain> then why do you care at all? :p
12:29:30 <Ammler> we had a strange glitch with advertising on our server.
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12:30:03 <TrueBrain> had, past tense ... should we care? :p
12:30:30 <Eddi|zuHause> well, a "workaround" is not a "bug fix"
12:30:45 <TrueBrain> he doesn't mention a workaround :p
12:31:00 <Eddi|zuHause> it's all he talks about for a week already
12:31:11 <TrueBrain> oh, I never pay much attention to him :p
12:34:17 <TrueBrain> 300 mbit/sec ... I love my internal network :)
12:36:01 <Eddi|zuHause> well, looks like the typical bandwidth for a BCI ;)
12:36:13 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: I can't code, so I have to work around :P
12:36:45 <glx> what's the exact problem?
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12:39:53 <Ammler> glx: well, I assumed, Eddi|zuHause commented my bugreports.
12:40:19 <TrueBrain> okay .... this is stupid: 'scp' in linux: 300 mbit/sec. winscp in windows: 20 mbit/sec
12:40:24 <TrueBrain> same computers, same network
12:40:59 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: there's also pscp for windows (part of putty)
12:41:02 <TrueBrain> glx: same computers
12:41:19 <glx> still, windows is slower for disk access
12:41:40 <glx> just compare openttd compile time :)
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12:44:06 <TrueBrain> pscp isn't doing a much better job
12:44:12 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: translators * r16229 /trunk/src/lang/ (korean.txt luxembourgish.txt simplified_chinese.txt):
12:44:12 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-05-05 12:43:50
12:44:12 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: korean - 1 changed by dlunch (1)
12:44:12 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: luxembourgish - 53 fixed by Gubius (53)
12:44:12 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 3 fixed, 3 changed by ww9980 (6)
12:44:26 <TrueBrain> weird time for a WT commit :p
12:47:36 <TrueBrain> via samba / cifs, it runs at a much much higher speed ... hitting 120 mbit/sec .... 150 ....
12:48:41 <TrueBrain> so it really is the inability of Windows to do sftp transfers :p
12:49:05 <TrueBrain> yesterday I read about Office 2009 SP2 and ODF1.2 support .... it made me laugh :) Hard :)
12:49:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's the "embrace" part of the typical microsoft cookbook strategy
12:50:03 <TrueBrain> I think they planned it like this, for all kinds of reasons nobody really understands
12:50:13 <TrueBrain> 350 mbit/sec ... I love CIFS
12:50:31 <Eddi|zuHause> next thing you know, they will put in "slight" incompatibilities
12:50:56 <TrueBrain> well .. what they did now, is when you open an other ODF1.2 document in Excel .. you see all the values correct, but the calculations on the cells are gone
12:51:06 <TrueBrain> that is a very ... 'slight' incompatibility
12:51:14 <TrueBrain> with ... nasty results
12:52:00 <TrueBrain> anyway, time to do some shopping .. then a bit of Windows 7 RC1 installing ...
12:52:07 <TrueBrain> back later .. or not when the installer fucked up everything :
12:57:22 <glx> (IPv4 failed because the router)
13:01:43 <Ammler> well, I just reported my experience with, the first time I made the issue, I set severity to very low.
13:01:50 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... anyone tried to compile nforenum? i get "mapescapes.h:25:27: warning: boost/bimap.hpp: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden"
13:02:40 <Eddi|zuHause> (translates to: "file not found")
13:03:09 <DaleStan> What version of boost do you have installed? bimap was added in 0.35.0.
13:03:22 <Eddi|zuHause> that would explain things
13:03:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Version: 1.34.1-42.4
13:03:41 <glx> hmm I don't have perl reinstalled
13:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause> should be documented somewhere: "needs boost 1.35"
13:05:27 <Eddi|zuHause> # zypper install boost1_35-devel <- stuff is so easy in linux...
13:06:59 <Eddi|zuHause> [40% 29.5 K/s] <- if only my network was faster
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13:37:30 <Belugas> here we go again... it's the Circus of the Shadows...
13:37:46 <glx> DaleStan: make clean should remove *.d too I think
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13:43:43 <Eddi|zuHause> we don't need to know if you "play" with your "bells" :p
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13:57:03 <Belugas> itoys, as one of my friends nicknamed them
13:59:23 <planetmaker> tubular bells! yay :)
14:06:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember we had no tubular bells, so instead i had to play a subcontra-G on my Tuba
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14:09:48 <TrueBrain> hmm .. Windows 7 is nice :s
14:10:41 <Belugas> i can't believe my eyes...
14:10:50 <Belugas> is it really you, TrueBrain?
14:10:56 <TrueBrain> yeah ... I am suprised myself :p
14:11:03 <dihedral> call the doc someone!
14:12:25 <TrueBrain> it all works ... smooth ... beautiful .... in a 'followble' fashion
14:12:31 <TrueBrain> of course the setup was a piece of crap, but that will never change
14:13:11 <TrueBrain> all my drivers installed (which is rare :p)
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14:14:19 <Gekz> it's still Windows at the core
14:14:23 <Gekz> and still fucking slow over time
14:14:40 <Gekz> it's the first positive overhaul of Windows so far though
14:14:48 <Gekz> TrueBrain: it's still a piece of shit userland
14:15:04 <TrueBrain> default install is much smaller than Vista
14:15:08 <TrueBrain> that is a hurray on its own :)
14:15:31 <TrueBrain> and ... I could update a lot of my drivers without rebooting :) In fact ... it could restart my video driver without rebooting :)
14:15:36 <TrueBrain> that even X fails to do :p
14:15:38 <glx> not really comparable (different kernel, ...)
14:16:01 <Gekz> it's just a stripped down NT kernel
14:16:13 <TrueBrain> again: overgeneralized statement
14:16:29 <TrueBrain> @kban Gekz 600 wrong person to tell to piss off
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14:16:30 *** Gekz was kicked by DorpsGek (wrong person to tell to piss off)
14:16:59 <TrueBrain> okay ... now it is a perm ban
14:17:06 <TrueBrain> @mode -b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au
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14:17:22 <Aali> some older nvidia drivers could be "hotswapped" on XP
14:17:34 <Ammler> dos, nice, w95, crap, w98, nice, milenium, crap, xp, nice, vista crap so yes, w7 should be ok :-)
14:17:38 <Aali> but it never really worked I guess, since they pulled it from later versiond
14:17:51 <TrueBrain> Ammler: hehe, you are about right with that, yes ;)
14:18:09 <glx> Aali: and it's recommended to uninstall before upgrade :)
14:18:31 <glx> w2k was not for 'normal' users
14:18:58 <TrueBrain> but Windows 7 just works ....
14:19:05 <TrueBrain> which for sure is a first in any Windows version :p
14:19:08 <Aali> I'm not sure why you would call win98 nice..
14:19:18 <Aali> sure, it was better than 95, but still horrible
14:19:21 <Ammler> w7 is also a home edition, I assume?
14:19:34 <TrueBrain> the RC is the Ultimate version
14:20:02 <Ammler> 98 was nice, if you had toubles, just reinstall and it worked again
14:20:22 <TrueBrain> the 64bit version of Win7 is only silly again .. Program Files and Program Files (x86)
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14:20:42 <glx> I'm downloading the 64bit version :)
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14:22:00 <TrueBrain> hmm .. Win7 can't playback mkv files :p
14:22:29 * TrueBrain dislikes vlc very much
14:22:38 <TrueBrain> it has so many GUI flaws
14:22:41 <Ammler> does w7 have something like a sotware managemnet compared to apt-get?
14:22:56 <TrueBrain> Ammler: doubtful ... it is microsoft after all :p
14:23:04 <TrueBrain> although you can install those widgets from the web
14:26:17 <Ammler> well, that is one of the only downside left, if they have now proper acl and no rebooting anymore.
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14:26:40 <TrueBrain> @mode +b *!~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au
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14:26:51 <TrueBrain> now never ever remove that ban okay, DorpsGek? Thank you ...
14:27:11 <Ammler> chanserv does remove them, afaik
14:27:34 <TrueBrain> seen own current banlist, I don't think so :)
14:28:20 <Ammler> maybe "they" rised the timeout
14:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause> wow... where did that banlist come from...
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14:34:36 <TrueBrain> cool, mkv is kind of supported .. you only need the splitter thingy :p
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14:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause> well, mkv is only a container, you can put any format within it (typically H.264 video)
14:38:33 <Eddi|zuHause> so what you are telling is that H.264 is supported
14:41:41 <TrueBrain> ghehe, sometimes NoMachine doesn't update ... that is not nice :p
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14:51:58 <Belugas> shit... i missed one :(
14:52:39 <TrueBrain> lol ... don't know if it is normal, but you need to hit ` twice in OpenTTD to get the console
14:53:34 <TrueBrain> it doens't move on its own :p (sorry, what is a dead key?)
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14:53:50 <TrueBrain> if you mean: `e becomes an other e, then yes
14:54:00 <TrueBrain> (US International keyboard)
14:54:12 <TrueBrain> but didn't OpenTTD handle that nicely? :)
14:55:18 <glx> but it used to be worse :)
14:55:43 <glx> for some previous openttd version opening the console was not possible
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15:19:39 <planetmaker> but, in this case, I think he has a point :) At least for RVs.
15:20:58 <planetmaker> I don't think he's stupid. I think he even searches before he asks :)
15:20:59 <Belugas> ho... yeah... see: a train takes a long time to accelerate. a truck no matter how heavily loaded takes an awfully lot shorter time. So.. with game's perspective, i really wonder how it can be displayed...
15:21:59 <petern> he seems to think 'realistic acceleration' for aircraft means better turning...
15:22:29 <petern> and, heh, i have 'realistic acceleration' code for RVs, but i haven't put it in because i didn't want to call it realistic :p
15:23:47 * planetmaker hands petern an "un" for further usage
15:24:19 <Forked> petern: 'alternative acceleration' ?
15:24:25 <planetmaker> it can be swapped for "traditional" for no fee :)
15:24:27 <Forked> (people behind the RV pushing)
15:24:42 <Eddi|zuHause> "acceleration model: {simple, complex}"
15:24:57 <Forked> old school - new kids on the block
15:27:21 <planetmaker> or {simple, advanced}
15:27:33 <Eddi|zuHause> ships have insanely slow acceleration, which is one of the reasons why they are not travelling fast, it would be impossible to react on obstacles at high speeds
15:28:10 <glx> only if obstacle is visible 10km before :)
15:29:13 <planetmaker> well. It's easy to maneuver out of a small obstacle, e.g. to change course by a bit.
15:29:43 <glx> if there is enough time to do it yes
15:29:55 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but you also need to have a way to navigate two ships around each other
15:37:49 <SHADOW-XIII> would it be possible to see details of scenario in scenario picker window in ottd ? like size of he map and climate ?
15:38:00 <TrueBrain> that would be possible, yes
15:38:31 <SHADOW-XIII> would save lot of crashing in PSP version :) so I will know how big map is before trying to load it (and crash) due to lack of ram
15:39:01 <TrueBrain> the creator of the PSP version could also tell you before opening
15:39:13 <TrueBrain> and make that it goes to main menu in a graceful matter
15:41:24 <Eddi|zuHause> PS: the word "realistic" currently appears in two places, the acceleration setting for trains, and the setting for catchment areas
15:41:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably inappropriate in both
15:44:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i am very sure we had a discussion about catchment areas, but i do not remember the context... might have been the german translation
15:44:41 <planetmaker> I think we had that in the German translation thread, yes
15:45:05 <planetmaker> I think it might be translated as "variabel" - variable :)
15:46:02 <frosch123> I think that was discussed in multiple places for multiple times :p
15:46:15 <TrueBrain> is that ... possible?! :p
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15:50:58 <SHADOW-XIII> TrueBrain : probably yes, right now it crashes because ottd cannot allocate enough memoery
15:51:28 <TrueBrain> SHADOW-XIII: I really think giving you the info to see yourself if it would crash or not is not the right approach for this problem :) Although having that info is just a nice thing in general :)
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16:23:32 <SHADOW-XIII> glx: what else can I tar ?
16:23:47 <SHADOW-XIII> i tarred all grf files but still need to tar more files
16:23:55 <SHADOW-XIII> obg files ? opntitle.dat ? sample.cat ?
16:24:12 <glx> did you remove the grfs after putting them in tar?
16:24:30 <glx> sample.cat can go in the original files tar
16:25:09 <glx> anyway on PSP the limit is way lower
16:25:12 <Ammler> maybe it isn't a file limit, either something "hardcoded" in the openttd source.
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16:25:55 <SHADOW-XIII> it's 10 files max I think
16:26:24 <SHADOW-XIII> glx: can I pack sample.cat + *.obg files + opntitle.dat in a tar file ?
16:27:12 <Ammler> can't you make a tar for the obg with the grfs belongs to?
16:27:47 * glx just check opengfx tar :)
16:29:05 <SHADOW-XIII> i tar everything :P
16:29:42 <TrueBrain> with the default files (no newgrfs) you should be fine with PSP ... I believe it used up all slots in that case :p
16:29:44 <TrueBrain> (or had one left ...)
16:29:53 <TrueBrain> left time I wrote anything for PSP, we made it 'recycle' filepointers :p
16:29:54 <SHADOW-XIII> what's strange graphics files are working once, after reopning newgrf window and selecting other (but same) set of grf files it crashes ...
16:30:12 <SHADOW-XIII> looks like file handlers still opened ... odd
16:30:30 <TrueBrain> but ... is it playable on PSP?
16:30:35 <TrueBrain> I mean, the navigation has to be a bitch!
16:30:47 <SHADOW-XIII> joy works fine as mouse
16:30:54 <SHADOW-XIII> not as comfortable
16:31:00 <SHADOW-XIII> but playable enough
16:31:06 <TrueBrain> I think that is the understatement of the centry ...
16:31:39 <TrueBrain> QuadWord, I like that name :p
16:32:43 <Eddi|zuHause> what's that? a 64-bit-integer on 16-bit architectures?
16:33:33 <TrueBrain> well .. arch ... no, on a 16bit memory model
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16:36:29 <glx> oups virtual HD too small
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16:45:22 <TrueBrain> SHADOW-XIII: I was done in 7 minutes :p
16:45:36 <glx> download took me more than 3 hours
16:46:10 <SHADOW-XIII> I downloaded via browser that but my connection is crap so I moved that to torrent, now will be slow
16:48:07 <dihedral> pff - silly question!
16:48:12 <SHADOW-XIII> no, but it's same image
16:48:53 <SHADOW-XIII> I've got 2 keys and 30% of image from MS .. rest can come from torrent :P
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16:49:42 <glx> I also have 2 keys :) (FF crashed)
16:50:16 <SHADOW-XIII> now got time till march :)
16:50:19 <SHADOW-XIII> now got time till march :)
16:50:52 <Eddi|zuHause> once for every key? :p
16:51:21 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... siedler 1 does not run in dosbox...
16:51:56 <SHADOW-XIII> Eddi|zuHause: it runs
16:52:00 <SHADOW-XIII> same with Settlers 2
16:52:08 <SHADOW-XIII> i know - I've been playing those on PSP
16:52:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i can set up a game, but once i start it, it crashes
16:52:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it just returns to the command prompt
16:52:51 <SHADOW-XIII> maybe game is corrupted ?
16:52:55 <Eddi|zuHause> Siedler 2 worked...
16:53:54 <Eddi|zuHause> of course the CD is not in the box...
16:54:11 <SHADOW-XIII> I even run Fallout on PSP, too bad it's unpleyable and too bad it's not F2
17:02:35 <SHADOW-XIII> on DosBox on PSP I can play: A-Train, A-Train 4 (AIV), Ascendancy, Capitalism, Constructor, Heroes of Might & Magic 2, Theme Hospital, Master of Magic, Pizza Tycoon, Prehistoryk 2, Prince of Persia, Settlers 2, SimCity 2000, Sim Farm, Supaplex
17:02:35 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... a WarCraft CD... i don't remember i ever really played that game...
17:03:06 <SHADOW-XIII> altough some are working too slow to be called "fully playable"
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17:15:47 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... is there a way to control the sound volume in dosbox?
17:16:11 <planetmaker> hm... your power cable?
17:16:15 <glx> there's probably a Fx shortcut
17:16:52 <glx> but usually volume is controlled by the game
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17:45:50 <glx> lol it's not fully translated :)
17:47:37 <glx> I got a "scanning for hardware changes" using french version
17:48:20 <TrueBrain> glx: it is, after all, a RC ;)
17:48:34 <glx> now I need to fix sound :)
17:50:47 <glx> changing workgroup sill requires a reboot
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18:07:44 <dihedral> "ever" around for 10 days on the forums and gets a belugas - pfft
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18:07:51 <dihedral> a kid i quickly start to dislike :-P
18:08:19 <Forked> are there anyone you like on the forum? :p
18:08:20 <dihedral> frosch123, might be a 'channel administrator' :-D
18:08:32 <dihedral> Forked, yep, there are a bunch of people
18:08:40 <Forked> I was just wondering:)
18:09:25 <dihedral> belugas being one of them :-P
18:10:04 <dihedral> Alberth, Eddi, pm..........
18:10:14 <Ammler> at least you know, who he doesn't like, and he makes sure, you won't forget ;-)
18:11:53 <Xaroth> dih works on an hates-all-except list :P
18:12:16 <dihedral> well - people dont start off on the 'dislike' list
18:12:41 <Ammler> sadly the foes function doesn't work as expected.
18:12:56 <TrueBrain> I wonder how that would work ...... :p
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18:13:52 <TrueBrain> well .. I know: lets send invites to people: do you want to be my friend on tt-forums.net
18:13:56 <TrueBrain> and lets rename it to facebook!
18:14:55 <Alberth> that name is already taken TB
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18:21:59 <TrueBrain> Belugas: that was the wrong client :p
18:22:16 <Belugas> ever is not a bad guy. He's just reacting the same as many when someone has the bad luck to be against his concept
18:22:45 <TrueBrain> what is this lately about new ideas and stuff? Never seen it that active :p
18:23:56 <planetmaker> I still have hope that he might actually become active in the sense that he'll set out to actually realize few of his many ideas.
18:24:23 <Belugas> TrueBrain, i like new ideas, when they do bring in new concepts
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18:26:06 <planetmaker> is it like shadow boxing? :P
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18:29:35 <Ammler> he, yet another vcs :-)
18:30:05 <planetmaker> yeah... seems like I need to get that, too :S
18:30:18 <TrueBrain> who is using that/ :p
18:30:51 <planetmaker> stupid, if you ask me... yet another vcs... :S
18:31:00 <planetmaker> just because, TrueBrain
18:31:34 <Ammler> because "Bazaar is highly recommended by the developer sitting to my left right now..."
18:31:55 <TrueBrain> so OpenTTD already has svn, git and hg ... and now people start to use bazaar too? :p
18:32:11 <Ammler> hg convert might handle it
18:32:52 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, very convenient, eh? Yes...
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18:35:52 <Belugas> nice : mercurial to rocks... that's the philosophical stone!
18:36:37 <planetmaker> mercurial on the rocks. Cheers!
18:36:51 <planetmaker> shall I call the doctor now or just wait? ;)
18:37:18 * planetmaker has seriously low blood sugar and thus heads now home :)
18:37:56 <Ammler> might be too fast, seems not that easy.
18:38:28 <planetmaker> I didn't say carcass handler ;)
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18:51:21 <glx> SHADOW-XIV: do something for your connection
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18:56:22 <TrueBrain> glx: but it keeps Belugas busy :p
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18:59:39 <TrueBrain> glx: many applications are ...
18:59:51 <glx> ok now I have a real browser
18:59:58 <TrueBrain> even a few that comes with Windows7 :p
19:01:26 <glx> IE8 is 64bit :) (openttd.org detects the right version)
19:01:43 <TrueBrain> well, the useragent includes the 64bit tag, yes
19:06:44 <glx> my VMs are consistent for incorrect CPU speed :)
19:07:09 <glx> ubuntu64 and seven64 both says 3.7GHz
19:08:07 <glx> since when sf.net requires flash?
19:08:22 <TrueBrain> does it? Even more reason to never ever visit that site again
19:09:13 <TrueBrain> not 'add'vertising :p
19:09:44 <Ammler> maybe it is like waggons
19:09:57 <TrueBrain> waggons? What is waggons?
19:10:09 <glx> well it's a windows after all :)
19:10:39 <TrueBrain> waggons is middle english ...
19:11:50 <Ammler> anyway, I meant ads ;-)
19:12:20 <TrueBrain> GetJumpChild ... not the best name for a funciton I guess :p
19:12:49 <Ammler> stupid, I had to clone the bzr locally until I were able to convert to hg.
19:12:50 <Belugas> AttraperEnfantSautillant
19:13:07 <TrueBrain> Ammler: that is how 'hg convert' works
19:13:44 <Ammler> TrueBrain: with svn, it worked from url
19:13:57 <TrueBrain> Ammler: because SVN is centralized
19:14:06 <TrueBrain> converts from git requires a local version too
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19:15:49 <frosch123> does hg support binary files? i thought it doesn't
19:16:20 <TrueBrain> it does; only no binary diffs
19:16:26 <TrueBrain> who needs that anyway
19:16:42 <frosch123> hmm, then I confused that :/
19:17:01 <TrueBrain> I believe old versions didn't support it; or that is how people/their website said it
19:17:11 <TrueBrain> what was meant was the diffing, what I gathered :p
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19:40:09 <Alberth> frosch123: yes it does, or openttd{dw}.grf are not binary files
19:42:57 <glx> TrueBrain: already 2 updates ;)
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19:46:58 <TrueBrain> glx: I had 4 ;) (3 drivers)
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19:48:23 <glx> I installed vmware tools to solve my drivers issue ;)
19:50:28 <glx> hmm both are for IE8 indeed
19:51:52 <TrueBrain> but, what do you think of it?
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19:56:09 <planetmaker> DaleStan: I've a problem compiling nforenum. It fails errors concerning boost: /usr/local/include/boost/boost/date_time/year_month_day.hpp:17: error: template with C linkage
19:56:43 <SmatZ> nforenum is using boost?
19:56:57 <TrueBrain> the world is doomed
19:57:37 <SmatZ> [21:56:57] <TrueBrain> the world is doomed <== perfect reaction!
19:58:03 <TrueBrain> anyway, planetmaker, Boost is a C++ Template library
19:58:11 <TrueBrain> seen the error ... I think a C compiler wants to touch it?
19:58:50 <SmatZ> strings.cpp:370: warning: ignoring return value of ‘char* fgets(char*, int, FILE*)’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
19:58:54 <SmatZ> the only warnings I get
19:58:56 <planetmaker> hm.... inproperly installed boost?
19:59:13 <planetmaker> also might be true...
19:59:22 <SmatZ> it shouldnt' be using boost at all :-x
19:59:29 <TrueBrain> system CFLAGS which are 'wrong'?
19:59:48 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: well... they're at default. It's no "no" answer, though :)
19:59:50 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: shouldn't, or doesn't? :)
20:00:06 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: apparently, somehow it uses :)
20:00:06 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: it does, if the readme along with it is right.
20:00:48 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: probably for year_month_day.hpp ;)
20:01:03 <planetmaker> hm... I have 1.38.
20:01:09 <TrueBrain> and for that you need to install the complete boost library
20:01:17 <TrueBrain> reminder to myself: do not try to use nforenum ..
20:01:43 <petern> openttdcoop people, what's better, UUDD or UDUD?
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20:03:28 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16230 /trunk/src/network/network_chat_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Moving chat widgets enum outside window struct.
20:03:49 <SmatZ> petern: UUDD is used in most games :) there were experimets with UDUDUDUDUD and such while testing YAPP, but it wasn't very successful
20:04:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16231 /trunk/src/network/network_chat_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets to chat window.
20:04:24 <Belugas> UDUDUDUDUD <--?? ouch... sounds tortuous
20:04:37 <SmatZ> also, UUDD allows shifting and further "abusing" of presignals ;)
20:04:44 <SmatZ> Belugas: yeah, it wasn't very efficient :)
20:06:08 <SmatZ> planetmaker: what file fails to compile?
20:06:08 * Belugas believes you blindfully
20:06:21 <SmatZ> there are savegames somewhere :)
20:06:57 <planetmaker> SmatZ: last file is [CPP] pseudo.o then the error messages start
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20:07:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16232 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Moving network content widgets enums outside window structs.
20:07:56 <frosch123> planetmaker: SmatZ: renum needs a quite recent version of boost
20:08:19 <planetmaker> I have 1.38. It should be... not older than a few months
20:08:31 <SmatZ> dev-libs/boost-1.35.0-r2 :-x
20:08:36 <planetmaker> frosch123: do you know which?
20:08:48 <planetmaker> hm... maybe I should try 1.35 :)
20:09:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16233 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets to network content windows.
20:09:14 <frosch123> [Tue May 5 2009] [15:03:44] <DaleStan> What version of boost do you have installed? bimap was added in 0.35.0.
20:09:55 <frosch123> someone asked that already yesterday, iirc eddi or so
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20:11:02 <SmatZ> frosch123: was the error message the same?
20:11:36 <planetmaker> it's actually a loooong string of errors which follows
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20:12:19 <frosch123> [Tue May 5 2009] [15:02:24] <Eddi|zuHause> hm... anyone tried to compile nforenum? i get "mapescapes.h:25:27: warning: boost/bimap.hpp: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden"
20:12:20 <planetmaker> funnily that function declarations of boost contradict itself... later on.
20:12:45 <planetmaker> looks like something completely different
20:14:14 <planetmaker> boost is a pain :S
20:14:26 <glx> try make clean && rm *.d && make
20:14:51 <Belugas> how nice... "ttd fourms are for geeks and is s***" very amusing :)
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20:15:44 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> hm... I have 1.38. <- maybe the boost version is "too new"
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20:16:35 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, my problem was completely different
20:16:41 <frosch123> [ebuild R ] dev-libs/boost-1.35.0-r2 USE="doc expat -debug -icu -mpi -tools" 0 kB <- also works for me
20:16:54 <Eddi|zuHause> and was solved by updating to 1.35
20:17:27 <planetmaker> hm... maybe it's then my boost. It's a pain to install it IMO...
20:17:47 <planetmaker> I'll have to go check that again, I guess :(
20:17:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16234 /trunk/src/network/ (network_chat_gui.cpp network_content_gui.cpp): -Codechange (r16231, r16233): Do not add test functions to trunk.
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20:18:57 <SmatZ> SHADOW-XIII: SHADOW-XIV: please stop it :-x
20:19:27 <frosch123> or you have to pay the hours belugas keeps kicking you
20:20:14 <planetmaker> 70€ / hour, 1 minute a kick --> each kick = 1,16€? Nice.
20:20:34 <planetmaker> and that's a bargain offer :)
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20:21:17 <Belugas> i'm blood... i keep one alive all the time
20:22:18 <planetmaker> you'd be drunken in no time...
20:22:29 <Belugas> #One Scotch, One Whisky, One BEeeer
20:22:42 <Belugas> planetmaker, i'll keep some for the boring days :)
20:24:54 <Belugas> is it me or is it the first fix-my-previous commit by Alberth?
20:25:14 <Belugas> if so, you'll have a long way to beat me!
20:25:29 <Alberth> actually, it is the 2nd one :(
20:25:33 <Belugas> speaking of which, i shall start to slowly commit stuff myself :S
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20:31:05 * Belugas wonders who is that peer... might have to shout big tie at him
20:31:26 <TrueBrain> @kban SHADOW-XIII 600 please come back when your connection is more stable .. this annoys too many people ;)
20:31:26 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +b *!~Miranda@78.149.135.217
20:31:27 *** SHADOW-XIII was kicked by DorpsGek (please come back when your connection is more stable .. this annoys too many people ;))
20:31:56 <TrueBrain> although Belugas is now out of a job ..
20:32:17 <frosch123> there are also XV, XIV, ...
20:33:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16235 /trunk/src/network/network_chat_gui.cpp: -Codechange (r16234): But keep the window description.
20:33:18 <Alberth> Hmm, I knew it was a bad idea to stay up and commit stuff :(
20:33:30 <TrueBrain> poor Alberth .. doing such a nice job ...
20:34:36 <Belugas> don't worry, TrueBrain, i'll be back soon :)
20:36:07 <fonsinchen> Belugas: you wanted to tell me something about diagonal levelling yesterday?
20:36:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16236 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Make widget enums complete of various network windows, and add them as comment.
20:36:56 <Belugas> hehe now, #tycoon are the only ones who tolerate/endure/whatever Shadow's connectivity nightmare. Good test site :)
20:37:18 <Belugas> no, fonsinchen, just that (at least by me) you have not been forgotten
20:37:39 <Belugas> usually, users are very worried by elapsed time...
20:38:00 <planetmaker> what? where? time? again gone by? Oh, no!
20:38:45 * planetmaker is very... silly today
20:39:11 <Belugas> you cannot be as silly as em!
20:39:35 <TrueBrain> The Day The Earth Stood Still
20:39:43 <TrueBrain> I install Windows, Belugas considers himself silly
20:40:20 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16237 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Add nested widgets to remaining network windows.
20:40:55 <Belugas> #The Day The World Went Away
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20:42:12 <planetmaker> Belugas: not as silly. But differently silly :) To the same degree or more
20:42:22 <planetmaker> you know: "überholen ohne einzuholen" ;)
20:42:49 <Belugas> too soon, TrueBrain, too soon
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20:43:05 <Belugas> planetmaker, not at all
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20:43:25 <SHADOW-XIII> who's DorpsGek ? bot ?
20:44:05 <Belugas> you'd prefer a human doing the same thing?
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20:45:34 <Belugas> i'll become a dog too shortly
20:46:46 <planetmaker> :) animalistic channel. First people start to leave ;)
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20:47:44 <TrueBrain> @kban SHADOW-XIV 7200 shall we do another attempt?
20:47:45 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +b *!~Miranda@78.149.135.217
20:47:46 *** SHADOW-XIV was kicked by DorpsGek (shall we do another attempt?)
20:49:01 *** SHADOW-XIII was kicked by Belugas (you too!)
21:02:57 <TrueBrain> I wish you all a very good night
21:04:47 <planetmaker> I wish you all also a good night :)
21:04:58 <Mido> hey, anybody know what the admin command to restart a multiplayer game from year 1 is?
21:10:32 <Belugas> what i did: "help", "list_cmds", "help list_cmds"
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21:16:44 * Belugas goes home, happy as cna be within the day's conditions
21:43:39 <frosch123> pff, two times "fountain of youth" in a row
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