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00:28:54  <Belugas> lovely day.  8 hours glued to the screen/keyboard combo, 1:30h to go home, have a supper, then go back to the stuff.  lovely.  really lovely

00:29:07  <Rubidium> go back?

00:29:10  <Rubidium> poor Belugas

00:30:21  <Belugas> no, not back, just doing remote stuff

00:30:24  <Belugas> but still...

00:30:27  <Belugas> i hate that.

00:30:50  <Belugas> i'm going for yet another week of 50 hours

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00:31:49  <Belugas> youhou!  two remote desktops plus a pcanywhere session!!!

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00:35:04  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r14654 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/ (arabic_egypt.txt hebrew.txt): -Add: stub for Hebrew.

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01:04:21  <Eddi|zuHause> arrgh fucking fuck... another whole day gone and i did not get a single word on this paper...

01:04:47  <glx> what is the deadline?

01:05:02  <Eddi|zuHause> 15th january

01:05:16  <glx> and only 10% left ?

01:05:18  <Eddi|zuHause> but i need to have a complete preliminary version next monday

01:06:00  <Belugas> and you call THAT a deadline?

01:06:13  * Belugas rolls on the floor, laughing like a mad man

01:06:52  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, because i am already 1 month behind my schedule

01:07:24  <Eddi|zuHause> and an extension to the deadline is really unlikely

01:08:02  <Eddi|zuHause> and even that improbable extension heavily depends on that preliminary version

01:09:08  <Eddi|zuHause> it's like the sentences sound really good in my head, but as soon as i want to start writing it, everything just vanishes

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02:25:09  <Belugas> i understand, Eddi|zuHause, don't worry

02:28:18  <Belugas> either way,  deadlines are made to be overruled hehe

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02:54:54  <Belugas> mmh... deliver... me goes to bed

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03:55:38  <ccfreak2k> For anyone familiar with the Debian/Ubuntu packages: is there a seperate package for the openttd server, or is it in the same package?

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04:38:17  <NoPride> hello

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07:29:57  <dihedral> Belugas, you need another job!

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08:24:33  <planetmaker> ccfreak2k: any binary can be started as server using the -D switch

08:24:39  <planetmaker> good morning #openttd :)

08:24:47  <ccfreak2k> Just making sure.

08:25:20  <planetmaker> it's possible to make a leaner binary though, by compiling it without sdl.

08:25:31  <planetmaker> using switch --enable-dedicated (or similar)

08:27:58  <mrfrenzy> morning

08:29:40  <Rubidium> planetmaker: and what if I've disabled networking?

08:31:20  <planetmaker> Rubidium: I don't know :) Would you want a server without networking?

08:31:43  <planetmaker> I guess, I'll ask the expert: Rubidium, what if I compile without networking a dedicated server? ;)

08:32:20  <Rubidium> you should try it ;)

08:32:42  <planetmaker> :)

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10:55:40  <NoPride> can anyone give me a run down on autopilot script?

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10:58:52  <fjb> Hello

11:18:44  <Splex_> autopilot script?

11:21:19  <Splex_> NoPride: this? http://svn.openttdcoop.org/tools/autopilot/trunk/Manual.txt

11:23:01  <Gekz> looks cool

11:23:16  <Splex_> Gekz: what looks cool

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11:23:37  <dihedral> NoPride: what do you need?

11:23:39  <Gekz> the autopilet

11:23:41  <Gekz> clearly

11:23:43  <Gekz> pilot

11:23:50  <Splex> ahh

11:24:27  <dihedral> Gekz: and where was that helpful?

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11:24:39  <Gekz> dihedral: excuse me?

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11:26:46  <Gekz> Brianetta wrote it apparently

11:26:51  <Gekz> ecke: hello there Mr Corner.

11:28:34  <dihedral> Gekz: yes - and i wrote ap+ :-P

11:28:43  <dihedral> i am quite familiar with it :-)

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11:33:53  <Gekz> dihedral: ap+?

11:33:55  <Gekz> not heard of it

11:34:10  <dihedral> www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autopilot/ap+

11:35:14  <dihedral> i reworked a bunch of things, namespaced everything as it's advised to be done, and added some new stuff

11:36:15  <Gekz> fun

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11:38:12  <dihedral> has the nice side of writing custom commands

11:38:19  <dihedral> for irc, or the game

11:38:37  <dihedral> and has an irc !rcon command :-)

11:38:56  <dihedral> which requires you to be op, or have the pw and send the command in private

11:39:50  <gynter> anyone got a phplib for communicating with masterserver?

11:40:31  * gynter too lazy to extract everything from source

11:40:41  <dihedral> hehe

11:40:46  <DASPRiD> :>

11:40:48  <dihedral> you can use parts of OpenTTDLib

11:40:59  <gynter> yeh i know that

11:41:08  <DASPRiD> i can only help with grf extraction ;)

11:41:13  <dihedral> LOL

11:41:17  <gynter> ^^

11:41:20  <dihedral> extraction or decoding

11:41:26  <DASPRiD> uhm

11:41:27  <DASPRiD> both

11:41:46  <dihedral> and that with php? you must be out of your mind son! :-D

11:41:53  <DASPRiD> gynter, tho master server communication is mostly pretty simple

11:42:01  <DASPRiD> dihedral, ^^ =P

11:42:11  <gynter> php was just an excample

11:42:14  <dihedral> gynter: what's your plan?

11:42:18  <gynter> gona port it to neko bytecode anyway

11:42:20  <DASPRiD> wolrd domination

11:42:23  <gynter> to use with nekovm

11:42:29  <DASPRiD> gynter, port it to brainfuck

11:42:37  <gynter> ^^

11:42:58  <dihedral> whitespace - i can already show you a schreenshot of the finished app :-P

11:43:12  <DASPRiD> dihedral, with syntax highlighting plz

11:43:18  <dihedral> no

11:43:48  <dihedral> i did that for a thingy bob at school - the teacher gave us paper and asked us to write a certain app in any lanugage

11:43:56  <gynter> just want to exmine neko udp sockets and xml-rpc

11:43:58  <gynter> ^^

11:44:03  <dihedral> i returned the blank page

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11:46:10  <DASPRiD> dihedral, lol

11:46:13  <DASPRiD> what did he say?

11:46:28  <dihedral> _she_ looked at me annoyed :-P

11:46:40  <DASPRiD> and?

11:46:45  <dihedral> nothing and

11:46:50  <dihedral> that is the normal procedure

11:47:03  <dihedral> the teachers do their stuff, i get annoyed with them, as they suck at their stuff

11:47:06  <DASPRiD> what was your rating for that "work"? :x

11:47:08  <dihedral> and never teach new stuff

11:47:25  <dihedral> i am on a 2

11:47:35  <DASPRiD> hehe

11:47:36  <dihedral> i dont get bad marks for those jokes

11:47:46  <DASPRiD> well it wasnt a joke

11:47:50  <DASPRiD> it was the program's source :)

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11:48:27  <gynter> hmh, gona extract some handshake and packet stuff from source then :P

11:49:22  <dihedral> i dont think there is much handshake there gynter

11:49:37  <dihedral> the masterserver communication is afaik udp stuff

11:49:41  <Gekz> what's the best alternative to python?

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11:49:57  <dihedral> in what way?

11:50:12  <Gekz> I refuse to say.

11:50:18  <dihedral> then there is none

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11:50:32  <Gekz> you are unfun to trap

11:50:41  <dihedral> lol

11:50:52  <Gekz> Boo

11:50:55  <dihedral> you just wanted to start a flame war?

11:51:04  <Gekz> not really

11:51:10  <Gekz> I just wanted to see human interaction

11:51:17  <Gekz> progress into the niches of each language

11:51:34  <dihedral> go to #moocows

11:51:38  <dihedral> :-P

11:51:56  <Gekz> no u

11:52:05  <Gekz> go to ##politics on Freenode

11:52:07  <Gekz> omg so much FUD

11:52:11  <Gekz> it makes me cry

11:52:13  <Gekz> I speak FUD daily

11:52:16  <Gekz> just for fun

11:52:22  * dihedral extends his ignore list

11:52:30  <Gekz> but these people were deadset serious about their FUD.

11:52:47  <Gekz> dihedral: you can't hate me!

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11:53:15  <gynter> Gekz, dewworm?

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11:53:33  <Gekz> what is dewworm

11:53:47  <Gekz> only one returns

11:54:16  <gynter> Gekz, http://tinyurl.com/55jwga

11:54:33  <Gekz> wang.

11:54:49  <gynter> yeah i know, i'm a smartass

11:54:57  <Gekz> I was simply asking what dew worms had to do with this

11:54:59  <gynter> Gekz, try perl or haxe

11:54:59  <Gekz> not what they are

11:55:13  <gynter> or cpp or html

11:55:19  <Gekz> never heard of haxe

11:55:20  <gynter> last but not least, php

11:55:27  <Gekz> cpp is not c++

11:55:33  <Gekz> and html isnt programming

11:55:33  <Gekz> lol

11:56:03  <Gekz> I know php, perl, html, not so much c or c++ howeve

11:56:03  <gynter> Gekz, yes you're right- CPP = Canada Pension Plan

11:56:08  <Gekz> but more C than C++

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11:58:26  <dihedral> [12:54]	<gynter>	yeah i know, i'm a smartass <- if anybody around here is a smartass it's gekz....

11:58:31  <dihedral> oh, and yorick

11:58:36  <gynter> or you might try MS Excel + VB

11:58:55  <Gekz> dihedral: yorick is worse

11:58:57  <Gekz> gynter: haha

11:59:13  <Gekz> had to use Access and VB today >_>

11:59:19  <gynter> best coiche ofc would be machine code

11:59:29  <gynter> hmh, my grammar sucks indeed

12:00:04  <dihedral> that was also bad spelling :-P

12:00:06  <Gekz> syntax ftl

12:00:22  <gynter> dihedral, nah, I just have my own syntax code

12:00:38  <gynter> its unknown for the other English speaking ppl

12:00:45  <Gekz> lol

12:00:50  <gynter> not well documented either

12:00:51  <dihedral> wrong approach

12:01:05  <dihedral> it's like saying, i code python i just use my own syntax

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12:01:16  <Gekz> python says no

12:01:50  <gynter> wrong, python says šššš

12:02:08  <dihedral> ok - you were right all along

12:02:12  <dihedral> you are a smartass!

12:02:12  <Gekz> shshshshsh?

12:03:29  <gynter> why question mark?

12:03:47  <DASPRiD> šššš <-- those are no question marks o.0

12:04:01  <gynter> bah, get a charmap :P

12:04:15  <Gekz> DASPRiD: s upsidedown hat

12:04:18  <DASPRiD> utf-8 :P

12:04:26  <DASPRiD> Gekz, yeah got that

12:04:33  * dihedral extends his ignore list a little more

12:04:38  <DASPRiD> dihedral, :x

12:04:44  <dihedral> no - not you :-P

12:04:47  <DASPRiD> :)

12:04:54  <dihedral> that other kid

12:04:58  <DASPRiD> okidoki

12:04:58  <Gekz> Jesus?

12:05:03  <DASPRiD> lunch time, laterz

12:05:11  <dihedral> same here

12:05:20  <dihedral> DASPRiD:

12:05:36  <dihedral> you want to go to the music shop, buy something for me, and then bring it by my flat? :-P

12:05:44  <dihedral> i dont feel like heading into town

12:05:47  <DASPRiD> seriously? no

12:05:51  <dihedral> :-P

12:05:56  <dihedral> meany

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12:06:57  <DASPRiD> instead, i play quakewars now :)

12:07:01  <DASPRiD> bibi

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12:42:57  <dihedral> ./openttd -D -x -c openttd.cfg

12:42:59  <dihedral> # openttd: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

12:43:01  <dihedral> now that is odd!

12:43:04  <dihedral> is it not?

12:43:12  <dihedral> if i use the -D flag...?

12:45:25  <mrfrenzy> perhaps it's used for keyboard input?

12:47:05  <dihedral> ?

12:47:28  <dihedral> and SDL stands for standard deutsche layout?

12:47:52  <dihedral> you do know what the sdl is required for, yes?

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13:06:49  <glx> dihedral: why did you built a non dedicated version for a dedicated server?

13:07:41  <Gekz> fun

13:07:54  <dihedral> glx: i did not, i downloaded 0.6.3

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13:08:10  <glx> it's not a dedicated build

13:08:16  <dihedral> there was not 'dedicated server' build :-P

13:08:30  <dihedral> i just did not expect that output :-)

13:08:44  <glx> yes, we assume someone using a dedicated server knows how to compile things :)

13:08:55  <dihedral> i do :-P

13:09:02  <dihedral> i was just feeling very lazy

13:09:20  <DASPRiD> you always do

13:09:23  <DASPRiD> and you always are

13:09:25  <DASPRiD> :P

13:11:12  <dihedral> nonofair

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13:17:47  <clarkee> hi

13:18:21  <Ammler> dedicated linux builds from the farm would rock.

13:19:44  <DASPRiD> dihedral, prettyfair :X

13:29:06  <clarkee> nice to see this game is still rocking on!

13:30:14  <clarkee> however, i'm reading wikipedia about how perhaps it could be ported to the G1/android platform because it uses SDL

13:30:24  <clarkee> has anybody had any attempts at this, or is wikipedia full of shit?

13:31:08  <glx> AFAIK nobody tried

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13:40:55  <fjb> How would you run it on an android device?

13:41:50  <DASPRiD> it?

13:42:18  <DASPRiD> openttd?

13:42:20  <fjb> OpenTTD

13:42:38  <DASPRiD> good question

13:42:44  <DASPRiD> is SDL installed on it?

13:46:14  <DASPRiD> heh

13:46:14  <DASPRiD> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTTD

13:46:28  <DASPRiD> according to this, there is an inofficial port for android

13:47:20  <fjb> Maybe, but Android doesn't allow users to download native code to the device.

13:48:32  <DASPRiD> it doesnt? that sucks hard :x

13:50:32  <fjb> It allows to only download java code.

13:53:14  <FauxFaux> I thought it was supposed to be, like, an open development platform?

13:53:29  <glx> open and google :)

13:53:30  <fjb> Yes, open Java development.

13:53:42  <fjb> glx: :-)

13:53:54  <DASPRiD> fjb, do you have the gPhone?

13:53:57  <FauxFaux> Idiots. :/

13:54:04  * FauxFaux hugs his windows mobile.

13:54:20  <DASPRiD> windoze :x

13:54:21  <fjb> DASPRiD: No, why should I?

13:54:27  <DASPRiD> fjb, dunno, because you asked :)

13:54:38  <DASPRiD> i wonder if you can install ubuntu mobile on the gPhone

13:54:49  <fjb> Windows Mobile is not that bad. But it could be a lot better...

13:55:29  <DASPRiD> http://www.phonenews.com/google-to-tap-ubuntu-mobile-or-embedded-for-google-phone-2206/

13:55:33  <DASPRiD> hehe

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14:05:54  <clarkee> windows mobile blows chunks

14:06:11  <clarkee> my last 3 phones were all HTC with windows mobile

14:06:46  <clarkee> the vox was just slooooow, the touch was laggy touch screen hell and lots of rebooting for no reason, and the hermes2 was also very slow at everything, including screen rotation and startup

14:07:10  <clarkee> if you were doing anything like writing a sms, and a call came in

14:07:24  <clarkee> the device got all messed up trying to work out what buttons you were pressing

14:08:40  <fjb> The one eyed is the king of the blind.

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14:15:21  <DASPRiD> clarkee, rebooting? thats windoze :D

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14:15:49  <clarkee> indeed

14:16:02  <clarkee> s60 is nicer, as is the iphone/darwin and even android :/

14:18:33  <DASPRiD> tho iphone is a developer's piece of crap :/

14:21:35  * jpm looking forward to see what kind of influence will Qt have in S60 development...

14:24:19  <fjb> "while ((  i <= MAXINDEX ) && ( list[i].value != 1)) i++;" is unwise, isn't it?

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14:25:58  <yorick> could anyone point me to the way/location cargolists are saved?

14:28:42  <clarkee> DASPRiD: agreed, the reason i got the g1 instead what precisely for that reason

14:28:45  <clarkee> oh, and itunes :P

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14:42:31  <DASPRiD> clarkee, you got the g1?

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14:50:52  <Belugas> need a boost

14:50:55  <Belugas> badly

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14:52:27  <Belugas> already got 3 mugs, but thanks :)

14:52:59  <yorick> I don't like coffee anyways

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17:35:36  <bami> hello

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17:35:56  <Splex> hello

17:37:18  <bami> im having a bit of a problem with a build under ubuntu

17:38:10  <bami> specifically, an assert is failing in the SISaveLoadConv in saveload.cpp

17:38:21  <bami> any way to show what variable is causing the assert to fail?

17:38:25  <glx> clean or custom ?

17:38:41  <bami> custom, with a daylength patch

17:38:54  <Rubidium> then that patch is flawed

17:38:58  <bami> i know

17:39:02  <bami> but its flawed on one side

17:39:09  <bami> it crashes only on ubuntu

17:39:12  <bami> when saving

17:39:30  <Rubidium> no, it's flawed in any case, just that it shows in one compiler and not in another compiler

17:39:41  <bami> it actually compiles well

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17:39:54  <glx> compile doesn't mean works

17:39:59  <bami> it also works well

17:40:09  <bami> but it failes when I try to save the game

17:40:17  <glx> then it doesn't work :)

17:40:23  <bami> and it works completly under windows :/

17:40:53  <Eddi|zuHause> afair it's a value that gets out of range for larger daylengths

17:41:05  <Eddi|zuHause> like the time between competitor start dates

17:41:27  <Eddi|zuHause> i usually solved that by replacing that assert with a clamp

17:41:50  <Rubidium> bami: might be that the windows binary has assertions disabled?

17:42:04  <bami> to be honest, i wouldnt know

17:42:07  <bami> im a java developer

17:42:12  <bami> (ducks)

17:42:32  <glx> Rubidium: shouldn't happen unless it's applied to 0.6.x tags

17:42:42  <Eddi|zuHause> i'd presume that java also supports asserts and assertless binaries

17:42:47  <SmatZ> bami: the problem with daylength patch causing this is very known

17:43:34  <SmatZ> and, of course, modified builds are not supported

17:43:39  <bami> i know

17:43:51  <bami> its just, I want a server to run from 1950 to 2050 in ~30 days or something

17:44:08  <bami> and that seemed to be the newest patch

17:44:38  <planetmaker> bami: what keeps you playing beyond 2050?

17:45:04  <bami> nothing, but this server runs 24 hours a day

17:45:16  <bami> after about 48 hours, you're in 2050

17:45:22  <bami> and the amount of money you get is silly

17:45:27  <glx> set minimum player

17:45:29  <planetmaker> switch off inflation.

17:45:51  <Eddi|zuHause> the amount of money you get in a daylength game is even more silly

17:46:09  <bami> yeah, i thought about that

17:46:23  <bami> so I think i'll be doing that, but it would just be a fun thing to do

17:46:30  <planetmaker> [18:45]	<Eddi|zuHause>	the amount of money you get in a daylength game is even more silly <-- Eddi: then it means that the daylength patch is not complete. It should apply inflation per year. Not tick

17:46:54  <bami> no, i mean

17:46:57  <bami> people sleep

17:47:03  <bami> the server keeps going

17:47:15  <planetmaker> then follow glx' advice.

17:47:17  <bami> in the time you sleep, the server progresses 80-some years

17:47:35  <planetmaker> only have the server running when 1 or two people are connected.

17:48:11  <glx> and kick/ban people staying connected when they sleep

17:48:14  <bami> I guess thats the most sensible thing to do

17:48:24  <bami> and the server is only going to be used by me and some friends

17:49:53  <bami> or cronjob the server to pause from 0 am till 8 am

17:50:02  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: and at the rate it is going currently, it will never be complete

17:50:18  <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, it is not even clearly specified what it should actually achieve

17:50:36  <planetmaker> Which would be a first step imo.

17:51:07  <planetmaker> I haven't looked at the patch so far - though in principle I'd appreciate a possibility to slow down the advancement of the years.

17:51:21  <bami> the patch is simple but is very dirty written

17:51:40  <planetmaker> bami: I cannot imagine that the patch is simple as it has to hook into many places...

17:51:59  <bami> from a complexity point of view

17:52:08  <bami> it just multiplies the DAY_TICKS constant

17:52:12  <Rubidium> a simple day length patch means it's economy is totally off the scale

17:52:17  <planetmaker> running costs, payment rates, inflation, maybe production...

17:52:55  <bami> it only adjusts running cost

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17:53:16  <Eddi|zuHause> which is weird and not enough

17:53:24  <planetmaker> which is... ^^

17:53:40  <planetmaker> maybe even vehicle speed?

17:53:44  <bami> nope

17:53:50  <Eddi|zuHause> running costs are defined per year, they should stay constant

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17:54:17  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: that approach would make things dirt cheap to transport...

17:54:27  <Eddi|zuHause> payment rates and production rates should be lowered, so the yearly income stays the same

17:54:49  <bami> i see now that this patch does nothing worthwile :(

17:54:51  <Eddi|zuHause> which comes with the problem that you cannot get payed <1£

17:55:17  <bami> then another thing, is it possible to lock the server at a certain year?

17:55:22  <planetmaker> Hehe. I'd opt for a proportional increase in the fixed and running costs of vehicles, tracks etc pp

17:55:31  <bami> 31 dec 2000 -> 1 jan 2000

17:55:40  <glx> no

17:55:46  <planetmaker> bami: only in SP via cheat.

17:55:54  <Eddi|zuHause> bami: afair there's a patch for that

17:55:55  <planetmaker> it's not 100% save.

17:56:08  <Rubidium> bami: if "a certain year" means the year 5.000.000, then yes

17:56:29  <bami> i don't like maglevs and monorails :(

17:56:37  <glx> don't use them :)

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17:56:50  <Eddi|zuHause> it used to be 2090

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17:57:08  <Eddi|zuHause> but looping before 2050 might come with strange sideeffects

17:57:16  <glx> or use a train grf (those usually don't have monorail and only passenger/mail/goods maglev)

17:57:19  <bami> so it loops at 2090?

17:57:39  <Eddi|zuHause> only in 0.5 :p

17:57:48  <glx> it loops at around 5.000.000

17:57:54  <bami> oh in that case

17:58:13  <bami> i never really bothered to read changelogs

17:58:49  <bami> tt was perfect for me, so all I ever wanted from it was windows capability and higher resolutions

17:58:59  <bami> all the fancy things was just extra :)

17:59:23  <planetmaker> bami: if you're a closed group of friends you should play with a nightly anyway :)

17:59:36  <bami> i know

17:59:39  <bami> we did

17:59:47  <bami> but we just wanted some added functionality

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18:01:43  <bami> well, off to install r14654 then

18:01:55  <bami> might as well compile it myself

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18:08:57  <bami> well, thanks for the information in any way

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18:15:51  <Belugas> you're welcome, bami.  I'm glad I could help you

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18:18:14  <Wolf01> hello

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18:20:48  <Belugas> W O L F I !

18:20:56  <Wolf01> O_O

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18:21:55  <Belugas> o_O

18:21:58  <Belugas> not O_O

18:22:00  <Belugas> pffffff

18:22:27  <Belugas> and yes, i'm getting totally nuts!

18:22:37  <yorick> [O_O] the video tape!

18:22:41  <Wolf01> and bolts?

18:23:15  <Wolf01> O¯O <- the videotape

18:24:01  <yorick> [o_o] the audio tape!

18:24:55  <Wolf01> [o~o] the broken audio tape

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18:25:45  <Belugas> hehe

18:25:51  <Belugas> nice ones :D

18:27:16  <Wolf01> http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/showtopic75009.htm pfft they have no clue... same as me

18:27:34  <Wolf01> oh, wait I missed the avatar

18:28:47  <yorick> "New D.I.C Head" :D

18:35:00  <Wolf01> bbl

18:36:01  <Belugas> bye friend... sniff sniff

18:36:45  <petern> nursery cryme time!

18:36:50  <petern> play me old king cole

18:37:00  <petern> that i may with you

18:37:05  <petern> +join

18:37:06  <petern> :o

18:37:49  * Belugas does not remember the words!!!

18:37:52  <Belugas> arghhhh...

18:38:09  <Belugas> It hardly seems to Maaaaather now

18:39:55  <Belugas> play me my song

18:40:00  <Belugas> here it comes again

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18:41:49  <petern> :D

18:43:41  <yorick> but nothing else maaaaaaaaatheeeers

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18:44:21  <petern> wrong song :o

18:44:57  <petern> # she's a lady, she is mine

18:45:10  <petern> # brush back your hair, and let me get to know your face

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18:46:03  <yorick> # well she's all you'd ever want

18:46:37  <bami> genisis?

18:46:41  <bami> genesis?

18:46:57  <yorick> do not say genisis genesis*

18:47:05  <bami> sorry

18:47:06  <Belugas> a big bag of cookies for bami

18:47:33  <bami> i like rickenbackers

18:47:33  <yorick> peanut-butter cookies!

18:47:44  <bami> its peanut butter jelly time?

18:47:51  <yorick> no, not jelly

18:47:54  <yorick> only peanut butter

18:47:59  <bami> >: (

18:48:12  <yorick> muhahaha

18:48:23  <petern> Belugas, anyone can google ;)

18:48:36  <Belugas> IF they have the time...

18:48:45  <yorick> letmegooglethatforyou.com/q=anyone+can+google

18:48:50  * Belugas uses his memory, faster... even if not as good ;)

18:48:54  <yorick> ?*

18:48:56  <bami> or set up proper scripts

18:49:06  <petern> Belugas, i was refering to others knowing the band ;)

18:49:31  <Belugas> lol

18:49:34  <Belugas> ok :D

18:49:41  <Belugas> sorry, my head is not 100% there

18:49:50  <bami> i like any band with some proper bass playing

18:50:07  <yorick> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=anyone+can+google <-- that

18:50:47  <petern> # botanical creature stirs

18:50:50  <petern> # seeking reveeeeeeenge

18:51:16  <yorick> 2nd result: "anyone can hack"

18:51:47  <petern> # they all need the sun to photosensitize their venom

18:52:05  <petern> any song with 'photosensitize' in it has to be great

18:52:09  <bami> # Expert texpert choking smokers,

18:52:09  <bami> # Don't you think the joker laughs at you?

18:52:22  <yorick> what kind of song has 'photosensitize' in it?

18:52:36  <petern> this one

18:52:37  <Belugas> battle of epic forest (think)

18:53:08  <petern> battle of epping forest is on a different album

18:53:17  <Belugas> gaaaa!!!

18:53:18  <petern> the return of the giant hogweed

18:53:29  * Belugas quits this game for now :(

18:54:15  <yorick> noooo

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19:04:10  <yorick> maybe I should not run irssi in a tabbed console, I'll start saying ./configure && make -j2 here

19:07:15  <Belugas> i kow why... both songs were talking about battles ...

19:07:17  <Belugas> god damn

19:07:22  <Belugas> brain is REALLY not there

19:07:28  <Belugas> should go home and sleep...

19:07:39  <Belugas> i've already past 40 hours this week

19:11:10  <petern> day off then, right?

19:12:00  <mrfrenzy> right...

19:12:12  <Belugas> oh no...

19:12:16  <Belugas> no can do

19:12:22  <mrfrenzy> didn't think so

19:12:23  <Belugas> deadlines,

19:12:28  <Belugas> they crawl all over you

19:12:36  <Belugas> 'til they uncover you

19:12:38  <Belugas> blablabla

19:17:11  <petern> yar

19:17:17  <petern> hmm, that's over, what to play next...

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19:21:44  <Belugas> UP

19:21:58  <yorick> DOWN

19:22:14  <Belugas> US

19:22:28  <Belugas> and..

19:22:30  <Belugas> THEM

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19:30:29  <Belugas> wow... we've got hebrew now... arabic too

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19:30:34  <Belugas> AMAZING!

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19:45:57  <bami> well, thanks for comments

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20:03:40  <ZerXes> hi!

20:04:20  <yorick> hi

20:04:37  <gynter> no

20:05:12  <ZerXes> I have a little problem starting a LAN game...

20:05:19  <ZerXes> running Vista64

20:05:49  <ZerXes> my friend finds my game but cant join it

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20:06:15  <ZerXes> when he tries it just freezes for 10sec and then he disconnects

20:06:30  <ZerXes> and I cant find his game or any Internet game

20:06:41  <ZerXes> but he can, on the same internet connection

20:07:01  <Wolf01> back!

20:07:10  <ZerXes> anyone able to help?

20:08:04  <Rubidium> you not being able to find any games sounds very very much like a firewall of some kind

20:09:04  <ZerXes> Rubidium: yeah, but I dont run a firewall at all

20:09:49  <ZerXes> Windows firewall turned off

20:10:05  <ZerXes> I run COMODO usually but right now its completly off

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20:12:30  <Belugas> and your router?

20:14:08  <ZerXes> Belugas: dont have a router, I use a switch

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20:14:29  <Terkhen> hello

20:14:35  <yorick> no

20:15:44  <Wolf01> uff, people keep registering at my forum and don't post anything

20:15:51  <Wolf01> stupid ghost forum

20:17:23  <yorick> Wolf01: what's your forum?

20:17:39  <mrfrenzy> most likely bots

20:18:14  <yorick> bots don't register and don't post

20:18:18  <Wolf01> no, they aren't bots, bots don't ask by mail how to register because "qwerty" is not considered a good password

20:18:19  <yorick> spammerbots post

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20:19:15  <yorick> searcherbots don't register

20:21:07  <Wolf01> [21:17:30] <yorick> Wolf01: what's your forum? <- an italian support forum for ttd and gamemaker

20:21:43  <yorick> gamemaker is bad from version 7 on

20:21:48  <Wolf01> yeah

20:21:58  * yorick got a version 5,6 license

20:22:20  <Wolf01> I've 5.6, 6 and 7 licenses

20:22:28  <Wolf01> *or 5.4

20:24:21  <Belugas> sorry, ZerXes, my knowledge is to short on da matter to help you out

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20:33:34  <ZerXes> Belugas: np, hopefully I will figure it out

20:33:49  <glx> ZerXes: there should be a router behind the switch

20:34:05  <glx> else sharing internet doesn't work

20:35:39  <ZerXes> glx: that depends, If you only are assigned 1 public IP from your ISP you must have a router to share the connection, I pay for 5 public IPs so I can just use a switch and all computers connected will get there own public IP on the internet.

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20:36:16  <glx> then it's a firewall problem

20:37:17  <ZerXes> glx: but I dont run a firewall

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20:38:30  <glx> if you can't find any games then something is bocking UDP packets

20:39:31  <ZerXes> yeah, just cant figure out whats blocking it... :-/

20:39:33  <petern> please learn how networking works

20:39:49  <petern> you are not bridged on to the internet

20:39:50  <petern> there is a router

20:40:46  <Wolf01> omg, no nat, computers directly connected with public address, me cries and flee

20:41:02  <glx> Wolf01: NAT is not a security element

20:41:28  <Wolf01> but at least is not like having your home door opened all the time

20:41:39  <glx> just use a firewall

20:42:59  <glx> everytime you forward a port you open a door

20:43:52  <Wolf01> yeah, but not all the doors at the same time and only for the software which needs it

20:43:55  <glx> and it's worse with UPNP as you don't really control what is opened

20:43:55  <yorick> but you only open doors you know armed people live

20:44:15  <yorick> or they open it themselves

20:44:32  <Wolf01> I disable uPNP by default on routers I configure and install

20:47:00  <petern> Wolf01... if there were no public IPs... what would be the point?

20:47:10  * Belugas dances on The Cure - Freak Show

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20:50:22  <ZerXes> petern: ofc there is a router, but its at my ISP, I dont have one

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20:55:31  <glx> so maybe your ISP blocks UDP

20:55:39  <glx> (some does)

20:56:09  <ZerXes> yeah, possible (not likely tough) but I am on a LAN with my friend

20:56:32  <ZerXes> and besides, he finds all the internet ganes

20:56:33  <glx> on a LAN only firewalls

20:56:34  <ZerXes> games*

20:56:44  <ZerXes> so not blocked by ISP

20:56:52  <yorick> maybe it blocks incoming tcp

20:57:08  <ZerXes> yorick: what does?

20:57:10  <yorick> btw, how can you be on a LAN without any kind of NAT

20:57:15  <yorick> your ISP

20:57:35  <glx> yorick: his friend can find games, while ZerXes can't

20:57:45  <yorick> ^^

20:57:54  <glx> and they are on the same network if I understood

20:58:24  <ZerXes> glx: right, and alla our IPs are public, no need for PAT

20:58:25  <petern> yorick: easy. learn how networking works.

20:59:01  <glx> ZerXes: then there's something blocking on your PC

20:59:12  <glx> (aka firewall)

21:00:01  <ZerXes> glx: yeah, must be, I just cant find anything... :(

21:00:50  <glx> are you sure comodo is completely off?

21:01:00  <glx> you shut down the service too?

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21:01:26  <glx> anyway it's easier to allow a program than disable the firewall

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21:05:11  <ZerXes> yeah

21:05:21  <Belugas> silent is silence

21:05:37  <Prof_Frink> And vice versa

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21:06:10  <Belugas> versa loves vice

21:06:21  <Belugas> vicious one

21:06:23  <Belugas> or two

21:06:25  <Belugas> hohoh

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21:06:58  * Prof_Frink sets mode: +sense Belugas 

21:07:09  <Belugas> command rejected

21:07:12  <Belugas> not enough space

21:07:34  <murr4y> Unknown mode for Belugas

21:07:43  <Belugas> hehehe

21:08:14  <glx> Belugas: stop coffe :)

21:08:29  <glx> dangerous for you mind

21:09:45  <Belugas> what????

21:09:50  <Belugas> what mind??

21:10:04  <Belugas> we call it "programming fluid" in here ;)

21:10:07  <glx> ok too late :)

21:10:17  <glx> effects are irreversible

21:10:24  <Belugas> oopps

21:11:05  <Belugas> honestly, i'm a wreck right now

21:11:18  <Prof_Frink> TEA!

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21:59:30  <Belugas> gone home

21:59:32  <Belugas> see you

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