IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2007-12-21
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00:07:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: may have to do with the game loosing focus before geting the "release key" event
00:07:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> i once got that while holding RMB
00:15:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: i will always and forever make that mistake
00:18:17 <Gonozal_VIII> what happens to the hd of a laptop in a maglev train when you place the bag containing it on the ground?
00:19:22 <ln-> either you have a very big bag or a small train.
00:19:37 <Gonozal_VIII> containing the laptop^^
00:19:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> inside a metallic object, there should be no outside magnetic or electric fields
00:21:07 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:20:55] Bartleby: magnetfeld geht schon mal rein
00:21:39 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that... and he knows that even more, he studied physics
00:23:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> electric and magnetic fields depend on each other
00:26:04 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:25:16] Bartleby: gibt halt kein em-feld mehr, aber magnetfelder lassen sich schlecht abschirmen
00:28:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> so what does he think the "m" in "em" means?
00:29:01 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:28:43] Bartleby: statische magnetfelder kannst nur mit supraleitern abschirmen, wechselfelder auch mit normalen leitern, allerdings nur relativ schlecht im vergleich zu elektrischem feld
00:29:49 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:29:21] Bartleby: magnetisch, aber hier gehts nicht um ausbreitung, sondern nur darum obs eindringt
00:30:05 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:29:43] Bartleby: dass es danach keine 300 mio kilometer mehr ausbreitet is wurscht
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00:32:09 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:31:47] Bartleby: wenn e-anteil vom em-feld abgeschirmt wird breitets sich halt nicht mehr uasi unendlich weit aus sondern nimmt in strke ab, aber dringt trotzdem noch ein
00:32:30 <Gonozal_VIII> i would translate that stuff but i don't understand it...
00:57:17 <ln-> wtf, i bought a 8-port 10/100 ethernet switch, and it has a driver disc with it??
00:58:43 <ln-> you don't see anything strange in that?
00:59:22 <glx> a switch doesn't need any drivers
00:59:34 <glx> you just plug it in the network
01:00:20 <Gonozal_VIII> i have lots of stuff with useless drivers
01:00:37 <Gonozal_VIII> usb stick, mouse, hd...
01:00:57 <glx> usb stick contains drivers for win98 in them :)
01:01:15 <glx> it needs to work for you to be able to get the driver
01:02:37 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: having drivers for a switch is something like having drivers for the power cord of your computer.
01:29:31 <kyevan> 20:28 < publicserver> kyevan: Wow, I didn't DC?
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02:06:53 <Gonozal_VIII> that's like mikado with wagons
02:12:03 <kyevan> Does ottd use unicode internaly, or?
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06:35:27 <roboboy> how do I set the server to pause if there arent two people connected
06:37:12 <Rubidium> something with "min_players" I guess
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07:39:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11672 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: refactor some stuff out of gui.h.
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08:35:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11673 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: move the overflow safe type to a separate file.
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09:30:31 <Draakon> and Merry Christmas! :P
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09:52:28 <Gekz_> it feels good to bleeeeeeed
10:46:11 <roboboy> I can not get a dedicated server to open a specific game of mine
10:47:35 <roboboy> im on windows and it closes too quickly
10:47:53 <roboboy> I can get it to start a brand new game
10:48:12 <roboboy> I want to load one that I was runing from a GUI server
11:01:36 <roboboy> how do I get it to recognise the GRF's
11:01:53 <roboboy> i have the cfg as I was runing the GUI server
11:02:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> same directory structure?
11:02:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> then i have no idea
11:02:57 <roboboy> or atleast i think so
11:03:36 <roboboy> openttd is in Openttd on my desktop and the cfg is in my documents and I have not moved any files
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11:17:01 <roboboy> i got it working a long way round
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11:17:43 <roboboy> i forced the cfg then loaded the game after starting a random map
11:23:53 <roboboy> will using rcon password server name change the name after the server started
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13:37:54 <kyevan> Time travel makes my head hurt.
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15:59:45 * Hendikins works at turning the New Years Eve Special Train Notice in to something the other staff at his station will be able to understand.
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17:00:12 <ln-> the same one as yesterday
17:00:56 <Gonozal_VIII> this one is a day older
17:02:37 <Bjarni> and a whole lot more tired
17:02:50 <Gonozal_VIII> see? not the same
17:03:17 <Bjarni> I'm also have experience from yet another day
17:04:45 <pavel1269> Bjarni: saw my last patch? finaly one that dont "overdrives system" as you said :P
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17:05:20 <Bjarni> what was your patch doing?
17:05:32 <Gonozal_VIII> cfos speed is not helping...
17:05:44 <Bjarni> even just a week ago is ages ago during exams and stuff ;)
17:05:53 <Belugas> pavel1269, true. but i would point out that it must be terrible on cpu usage... personnal feeling..
17:06:26 <Gonozal_VIII> that check 25 surrounding tiles for house thing?
17:07:18 <Gonozal_VIII> that's why i thought it would be easier to look for roads with sidewalks...
17:07:49 <Gonozal_VIII> only one tile then
17:08:58 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe they shouldn't have built there
17:10:15 <pavel1269> wow with my patches, economy category of patches is small for them :/
17:10:42 <Gonozal_VIII> that's like in reality... they build a new road where the cars don't have to drive through populated areas... lot prices around that road are cheap... lots of houses are built there... they have to build another road
17:11:32 <Gonozal_VIII> forgot the step where the people in those houses complain about traffic...
17:12:40 <Bjarni> real life.... that's where you can build a house next to a noisy factory and then sue the factory for the noise
17:13:38 <pavel1269> in this country it works like, if you build house near road, they will move city border and everyone is complainincg about traffic
17:14:37 <Bjarni> the people who complains
17:18:48 <pavel1269> i made test ... 0 vehicles 0% PCU, 40vehicles 0%CPU ... lets add some more :P
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17:19:08 <Gonozal_VIII> ... stupid connection
17:19:13 <Bjarni> looks like Gonozal_VIII really likes the guy living upstairs
17:19:40 <Gonozal_VIII> it's not even him now, it's myself
17:20:03 <Gonozal_VIII> trying to get that cfos speed thing to work properly
17:21:22 <Gonozal_VIII> i have a 3072/384 connection and i'm currently downloading at 197 KB/s uploading at 25 KB/s
17:21:37 <Gonozal_VIII> priority of irc is high, torrent is low
17:22:33 <Gonozal_VIII> icq is even worse, disconnects every 5 minutes
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17:28:49 <pavel1269> btw, patch dont use CPU taht much ... 200moving vehicles and still 0%cpu and this pc is shit
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18:25:49 <kyevan> When Gonzal comes back, someone tell him that torrents use a large number of connections and that sometimes can damage things
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18:31:57 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (line 1)
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19:21:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11674 /trunk/src/ (50 files in 5 dirs): -Codechange: refactor some functions out of macros.h into more logical locations.
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19:49:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11675 /trunk/src/ (74 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: split the string types from the string functions.
19:52:32 <kyevan> I wonder if it would be easier to genericise OTTD to the point building an RCT clone on top of it would be possible, or just writing one from scratch, would be easier
19:54:38 <kyevan> Neither is anywhere near trivial :P
19:55:09 <kyevan> But genericising ottd has several benifits - the rendering logic doesn't seem as if it should be too different between the two, for instance.
19:56:14 <Sacro> and they really should remove the channel4+1 adds
19:56:50 <pavel1269> Sacro, are you working on programable signals?
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20:05:24 <Gonozal_VIII> [21:04:49] *** Error logging into ICQ: You are attempting to sign on again too soon. Please wait ~15 minutes and try again! Do not login during this period or it will only extend itself.
20:06:08 <Sacro> i didn't think ICQ could suck any more than it used to
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20:08:55 <another_nick> and irc always complains that my nick is already in use...
20:10:24 <another_nick> ah, oftc supports that?
20:11:08 <Wolf01> at least, i have a small script which ghosts, changes nick and identify on join
20:13:38 <another_nick> i don't think that's helping to get it done belugas
20:14:54 <Belugas> nope :) but it feels ice imagining my boss's head alld covered up and smelly heher
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20:22:35 <Gonozal_VIII> i have that now too... i guess^^
20:22:49 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't need a script, it's a single line
20:23:47 <Gonozal_VIII> thanks for the tipp
20:25:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> why would a one liner be less a script than any other script?
20:25:32 <Gonozal_VIII> you don't need a script for that, you can just type it :-)
20:25:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> why would you type something, when you can script it?
20:26:01 <Belugas> depnds of the lenght of said line :P
20:26:24 <Gonozal_VIII> well i don't... but you could
20:26:54 <Gonozal_VIII> for an average user that doesn't get disconnected every 20 minutes
20:27:15 <Gonozal_VIII> the line is /nickserv regain nick password
20:31:54 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm that's a lollerscater
20:33:10 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2> why would you type something, when you can script it? <-- usually I just write the stuff I need to do. Otherwise I have to remember what I called the script and where I put it and so on
20:33:37 <Bjarni> an exception is my release script. I made it to ensure that all releases are made with the same settings so yes I made a one line script
20:34:32 <Gonozal_VIII> perform script is kinda built in... can't forget where i put it
20:34:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i thought more of a kind of perform script, that will be executed automatically each time you join, no matter if the ghost is actually there or not
20:34:57 <Bjarni> in my world a script is a shell script
20:35:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> you sir have a very limited world...
20:36:25 <Bjarni> are you trying to bash my world?
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20:45:54 <Gonozal> perform gets executed after successful connection... nick already in use doesn't count as success
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21:16:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11676 /trunk/src/ (os/macosx/splash.cpp os2.cpp video/win32_v.cpp win32.cpp): -Fix (r11674): some references to macros.h were left
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21:26:27 * fjb has a never used OS/2 licence somewhere.
21:27:16 <kyevan> One of my friends has a used install with no license.
21:27:23 <kyevan> Can we say that you and him balance out? :P
21:33:42 <kyevan> Can ottd load TTD saves/scenarios? What about TTo? (Might as well ask)
21:34:16 <Bjarni> think about that question
21:34:25 <Belugas> easiest answer would be TRY IT, but yes, they can be loaded
21:34:28 <Bjarni> are the vehicles themselves compatible?
21:34:48 <kyevan> Bjarni: Dunno, are they?
21:35:02 <kyevan> I first started playing on ottd, I've never played on the other engine versions :P
21:35:06 <Gonozal_VIII> tto had different vehicles afaik
21:35:31 <Bjarni> TT has more steam and no maglev if I recall correctly
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21:38:09 <Gonozal_> perform thing doesn't work..
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21:40:44 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Still toying with cFos speed?
21:40:58 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... doesn't seem to do anything
21:41:10 <Gonozal_VIII> lots of free bandwidth
21:41:16 <fjb> I can not do anything in your case.
21:41:34 <fjb> I read the technical documentation yesterday.
21:41:39 <Gonozal_VIII> it should, i'm only downloading on my pc now
21:42:24 <Bjarni> I think it actually decided on being there on it's own
21:42:33 <fjb> Bjarni will end like that some day for kicking people.
21:42:39 <Gonozal_VIII> cats do weird things and sleep in weird places
21:43:46 <Bjarni> I used two rails all day
21:43:59 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: If cFos speed doesn't shape your own traffic it is horrible broken or not correctly installed.
21:44:32 <Bjarni> that page has some nice pictures
21:44:50 <hylje> you did notice the ottd thread?
21:44:50 <Gonozal_VIII> it should work... i can see the active connections and icq/irc has highest priority while torrent has lowest...
21:45:05 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Does your router have a firewall? Maybe it has an idle couter that is set to a too low value.
21:45:45 <Gonozal_VIII> no firewall that i know of
21:46:28 <fjb> Not knowing of a things doesn't always prevent a thinbg from existing.
21:46:57 <Gonozal_VIII> but i'm pretty sure it doesn't
21:47:02 <kyevan> Bjarni: Monorail cat ish old >_>
21:47:19 <Gonozal_VIII> monorail cats never get old
21:47:54 <kyevan> As in, 'funny, but we've all seen it before
21:51:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11677 /trunk/src/ (90 files in 5 dirs): -Codechange: move price and command related types/functions to their respective places.
21:51:58 <Bjarni> how should I know what you have seen without telling me? :)
21:53:07 <kyevan> If it's been on ICHC, I've seen it :P
22:03:26 * fjb hates three letter acronyms.
22:05:23 <kyevan> Oh, and you're supposed to say ÃÃ"I hate TLAs
22:05:55 <Gonozal_VIII> ÃÃ <-- can't read that
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22:07:14 <kyevan> that was an accidental char anyway
22:07:25 <kyevan> It's probably I with umlats
22:07:35 <kyevan> The dangers of using US-International >_>
22:09:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r11678 /trunk/src/os/macosx/macos.mm: -Fix (r11674): [OSX] fixed compilation
22:09:52 <fjb> Oh, Bjarni did something usefull.
22:10:07 <Gonozal_VIII> not useful for me, revert it!
22:10:30 <fjb> It's more usefull than the things he usually does.
22:10:52 <Bjarni> more useful than concentrating on exams?
22:10:53 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... like robots without lasers
22:11:22 <kyevan> We need lasers in ottd.
22:11:27 <kyevan> Lasers... and eggplant!
22:11:28 *** fjb was kicked by Bjarni (Don't spread lies.... I don't kick people)
22:12:02 <Gonozal_VIII> laser eggplants?
22:12:10 <Bjarni> anyway I passed the last exam of the year yesterday
22:12:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11679 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_commons.cpp newgrf_station.cpp): -Add: [newgrf] support for station vars 67 and 68
22:12:21 <Bjarni> so now I should be able to do other stuff
22:12:58 <kyevan> Is there documentation on the grf format for people who have no idea, anywhere?
22:13:19 <kyevan> fjb: Why do you want a pledge drive?
22:13:23 <Bjarni> kyevan: there is full documentation on the patch wiki
22:13:33 <Bjarni> if it's not there then it's not written
22:13:44 <Gonozal_VIII> i just opened that to look what vars 67 and 68 do^^
22:13:45 <Bjarni> but you will usually find everything you need there
22:14:40 <ln-> has anyone flown on Wizz Air?
22:14:51 <Bjarni> btw I'm pretty happy about my exam... it was an oral one and I most likely got one of the worst questions and I still passed
22:15:16 <Bjarni> on a passed/failed scale (kind of boolean scaling)
22:15:37 <Bjarni> ln-: you live dangerously
22:16:52 <kyevan> The only issue with really really big maps, is that saving takes forever :P
22:17:39 <Gonozal_VIII> that's fun in multiplayer
22:18:13 <Gonozal_VIII> (the bad kind of fun)
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22:23:56 <Gonozal_VIII> Can you guys right click scroll while holding down left button to lay autorails? <-- no
22:25:00 <Gonozal_VIII> but there's no jump
22:25:12 <dihedral> but i can scroll using the arrow keys (+shift if need be) to scroll while doing that
22:25:36 <Gonozal_VIII> yes arrow keys work
22:25:43 <Bjarni> then it looks like it's not mac specific
22:25:49 <Bjarni> I can use the arrow keys too
22:26:28 <Gonozal_VIII> holding down the right button doesn't do anything while left button is pressed
22:26:59 <Bjarni> now I know it's not the cocoa driver acting up :)
22:27:35 <dihedral> if you want a mac thing
22:29:31 <dihedral> set a password in a multiplayer game from a mac and try to join form a non-mac :-)
22:29:41 <dihedral> company password that is
22:29:52 <Gonozal_VIII> that instant scrolling after build thing seems to be mac only
22:30:39 <Bjarni> dihedral: you mean the password will not work?
22:30:51 <pavel1269> i ma almost sure, not :)
22:30:56 <Bjarni> could be an endian issue
22:31:06 <Gonozal_VIII> i helped testing that, yay
22:31:17 <Bjarni> please try it with "reversed endian"
22:31:25 * Sacro reverses Bjarni's endian
22:31:40 <dihedral> i am already doing my best :-)
22:31:44 <Bjarni> so 1234567 becomes 4321765
22:31:49 <Sacro> dihedral: that's a lie, NOW WORK HARDER :;
22:31:58 <kyevan> I've been teaching myself C from K&R. It's weird
22:32:00 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf how do you know that bjarni?
22:32:01 <Bjarni> because reading with the wrong endian flips the order in pairs of 4
22:32:04 * dihedral works harder on slapping Sacro
22:32:45 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> wtf how do you know that bjarni? <-- by understanding what endianess and endian issues are all about
22:32:49 <dihedral> Bjarni: but the company password is being hashed now
22:32:58 <dihedral> so it should send a md5 to the server
22:33:06 <dihedral> not the clear text pw
22:33:29 <kyevan> Sacro: I'm using the second edition, rewritten for ANSI C.
22:33:35 <Gonozal_VIII> it looked complicated until i realised that it was only reversing of 4 digits at a time
22:34:48 <Bjarni> I remember when we first tested naming in MP I ended up being named "rajBin"
22:35:16 <Bjarni> no stable release ever did that to the names
22:36:02 <Gonozal_VIII> but.. shouldn't 1 still be 1?
22:36:15 <Gonozal_VIII> they had that as pw
22:36:28 <Bjarni> but if it reverses the hash...
22:36:36 <ln-> 00:15 <@Bjarni> ln-: you live dangerously <-- SAS Commuter is the way to go?
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22:36:55 <Bjarni> ln-: no.... no planes is the way to go ;)
22:37:33 <Bjarni> that's likely one of the most off topic comments that I have ever seen from a guy who just joined
22:37:55 <Bjarni> however based on what I'm told the statement should be true
22:37:58 <Gonozal_VIII> sure about that? at least it's about a game
22:38:04 <ln-> Bjarni: ferry trips to certain places take too long.
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22:38:35 <Bjarni> ln-: actually I was kind of referring to travelling all the time
22:39:07 <Bjarni> besides... use the train
22:39:24 <ln-> Bjarni: e.g. i haven't been abroad since monday.
22:39:25 <Bjarni> kyevan: no... you just have to understand it
22:39:32 <Gonozal_VIII> if you have a perfectly good bed and enough food in reach, you shouldn't leave it...
22:40:13 <dihedral> Bjarni: but then the endianness issue could be in something that so far has not mattered
22:40:13 <dihedral> i.e. the 'generation seed' is used to salt the md5, along with the server's 'unique id'
22:40:13 <dihedral> if either of those were not correct in endianness that would cause an issue
22:40:13 <dihedral> and i never payed attention to those myself, had assumed so far that they were correct...
22:40:14 <Bjarni> I haven't been abroad since.... 2004 or 2005
22:40:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have been in luxemburg twice this year
22:40:38 <pavel1269> 23:36 <Bjarni> but if it reverses the hash... ---- so b => d :D
22:41:00 <ln-> Bjarni: and i did use the train abroad.
22:41:24 <Bjarni> why are you guys travelling so much?
22:42:03 <kyevan> God damnit, why doesn't my train move!?
22:42:09 <Gonozal_VIII> i only go to university and back... by train!
22:42:31 <Gonozal_VIII> if you already yelled at it, do it louder
22:42:53 <ln-> kyevan: show it who's the leader
22:42:53 <Bjarni> yelling at it always works
22:43:03 <Bjarni> it lets off YOUR steam :p
22:43:22 <Bjarni> kyevan: alternatively you can get out and push
22:43:40 <Gonozal_VIII> and after you tried all that you click on the ignore signal button
22:44:11 <glx> dihedral: an easy check would be to printf("%s\n", hashed_password); in GenerateCompanyPasswordHash() and then compare the output for both endians
22:44:19 <ln-> Bjarni: besides, germany is a nice country.
22:44:29 <kyevan> there was a track connection error half a world away >_>
22:45:34 <Gonozal_VIII> not the thing about germany, that's obviously a lie..
22:45:54 <dihedral> glx: exactly what i was going to do :-)
22:46:01 <Bjarni> there is this thing about Germany
22:46:13 <Bjarni> it's full of.... German speaking Germans
22:46:36 <glx> dihedral: because what is sent over the network is a string
22:46:41 <Gonozal_VIII> get them off, get them off!
22:46:59 <glx> so if there's an endian problem it is before the sending
22:48:08 <dihedral> md5 is not always sent as string
22:48:45 <Gonozal_VIII> but it is, i read that somewhere
22:48:50 <Gonozal_VIII> so it must be true
22:48:51 <dihedral> best example would be the unique id of the clients in the udp packets
22:49:56 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Austrians are just a strange kind of Germans.
22:50:14 <Bjarni> Germans are a strange kind of Germans
22:50:19 <dihedral> Austrians are no where near any kind of germans
22:50:23 <Bjarni> at least some of them are
22:50:39 * dihedral is proud to be half british
22:50:54 <Bjarni> what about the other half?
22:51:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11680 /trunk/src/ (56 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: refactor more out of openttd.h and functions.h.
22:51:14 <Bjarni> and does that mean that you are half a gentleman?
22:51:23 <ln-> who dares to set mode -c?
22:51:25 <Gonozal_VIII> and other half british
22:52:04 <Bjarni> ln-: it was added because somebody showed up with a script where each letter was a new colour... impossible to read
22:52:21 <ln-> Bjarni: that's what the kick functionality is for.
22:52:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> i would be very cautious to answer any kind of question including "are you half [...] man"?
22:53:23 <dihedral> it's 'not half' time to be getting to bed :-P
22:53:34 <Gonozal_VIII> half man, half bear and half pig!
22:53:49 <glx> hmm I don't see when _password_server_unique_id is sent (it is received 4 times)
22:54:18 <glx> 2 times indeed (stupid search function)
22:54:20 <Gonozal_VIII> it just loops around on the server :-)
22:54:22 <fjb> ln-: Bjarni is thinking that the kick functionality is for his own fun.
22:54:40 <dihedral> glx: the tcp packets that contain info on each client
22:54:58 <dihedral> that includes the unique id
22:55:04 <dihedral> perhaps it just uses that
22:55:25 <Bjarni> -c was added when more people tried that script and we didn't want to kick everybody
22:55:34 <Bjarni> you see.... I wouldn't kick myself
22:55:42 <Sacro> Happy Apollo 8 Day ALL :D
22:55:59 <glx> found it ;) (p->Send_string(_network_unique_id);)
22:56:09 <Bjarni> Sacro: what's that all about?
22:56:23 <Bjarni> celebrating the date of a hoax?
22:56:32 <Sacro> it was launched on 21/12/68
22:56:40 <Sacro> Apollo 11 might have been
22:56:59 <Sacro> it looked too real to be faked
22:57:07 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:05:23] Bjarni: Sacro: type !password
22:57:08 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:05:23] *** Bjarni has been kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek: wrong channel
22:57:12 <Bjarni> Mission to Mars was no hoax either
22:57:15 <Gonozal_VIII> you kicked yourself :P
22:57:20 <Bjarni> they did have people up there
22:57:21 <glx> Gonozal_VIII: it was a bug
22:57:23 <Bjarni> because they made a movie
22:57:29 <dihedral> glx: sorry - need to correct my statement
22:57:59 <dihedral> glx: the md5 sum and grfid of the newgrf udp packets and in the info packet is i think not sent as string
22:58:10 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> you kicked yourself :P <-- technically glx ordered DorpsGek to kick me
22:58:50 <Gonozal_VIII> you pulled the trigger not the guy that built or loaded the gun ;-)
22:59:21 <Sacro> not seen him in a while
23:00:40 <Sacro> what happened to them all :(
23:00:51 <dihedral> they saw you and ran
23:01:12 <Sacro> Patrick` and his really big gay
23:05:35 <Bjarni> "I'm not gay", "shut up. You will be in a moment"
23:06:13 <Bjarni> GeniusDex... I don't know what happened to him
23:06:39 <Bjarni> peter1138 and _Luca_ are hit hard with real life
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23:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... on "MDR" they have a "Long Model Railway Night" (3h)
23:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> and model trabbis ;)
23:17:43 <Gonozal_VIII> i built some models too
23:18:09 <Gonozal_VIII> but not for fun, to represent buildings...
23:18:30 <Gonozal_VIII> and furniture :-)
23:18:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> furniture in 1:87 could be fun :p
23:19:22 <Gonozal_VIII> no we did that in 1:10
23:19:45 <Gonozal_VIII> i have a model of the bed i'm lying in atm :-)
23:19:52 <Gonozal_VIII> built both model and bed myself
23:24:55 <Gonozal_VIII> they should turn realistic acceleration for rvs on
23:25:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> they should have model women ;)
23:27:43 * fjb thinks that Gonozal_VIII needs a real woman to really test his bed. :-)
23:28:23 <Gonozal_VIII> already did that ;-)
23:28:51 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm not the model...
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23:31:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> they have model beer ;)
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23:34:00 <Gonozal_VIII> connection reset by peer instead of ping timeout after 8 minutes... that's better
23:34:23 <fjb> A better way to lose the connection...
23:36:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> an american mallet engine... impressive
23:39:12 <Gonozal_VIII> a train driver will never be able to do anything else
23:40:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> they should have had bonsai trees ;)
23:41:34 <Gonozal_VIII> bonsai trees are normal trees that get cut a lot
23:41:39 <fjb> Wernigerode is about 30km from here. :-)
23:42:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> my grandparents live near there
23:47:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> there you have model furniture ;)
23:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> he always disappears right after i say something
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23:47:58 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, it's your fault!
23:48:24 <Gonozal_VIII> i have the logs page open, i didn't miss anything
23:49:49 <Gonozal_VIII> there's less than 1/6 of my bandwidth in use... how can that cause disconnects all the time
23:50:15 <fjb> Upload or download bandwith?
23:50:47 <Gonozal_VIII> upload is 25kb/s from 384 kbit
23:51:31 <Gonozal_VIII> i also tried with 20, doesn't help...
23:52:45 <fjb> Hm, strange. That didn't happen when you didn't use the router yet?
23:52:50 <Gonozal_VIII> there is a setting for max halfopen in the torrent client, that was set to 8, i changed it to 5 but that didn't help either
23:53:22 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm i can't remember
23:54:04 <Gonozal_VIII> could that also be caused by the isp?
23:54:30 <fjb> It possibly could, but I don't think the ISP does it.
23:54:48 <Gonozal_VIII> they do other stuff just to annoy people...
23:54:56 <Gonozal_VIII> like that 8h disconnection stuff
23:55:01 <fjb> Ant 8 half open connections are a joke. Much higher values could couse problems.
23:55:37 <fjb> They would block p2p clients if they would try to annoy people. :-)
23:56:22 <Gonozal_VIII> why would anybody want a fast connection when p2p doesn't work on it...
23:57:23 <fjb> Why would the ISp care for that? :-)
23:57:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> that was so clear :p
23:57:54 <fjb> I'm having a fast connection and don't use any p2p stuff.
23:58:25 <Gonozal_VIII> what else could cause that?
23:58:53 <Bjarni> <fjb> I'm having a fast connection and don't use any p2p stuff. <-- some people would say that you are wasting bandwidth
23:59:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> he is running an XDCC bot ;)
23:59:44 <fjb> Mail is not rally the best use for p2p.
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