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00:48:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10930 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
00:48:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: seaplaneport.grf was only available in temperate.
00:48:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change: runway numbers for water runways now in blue/teal.
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02:09:27 <Belugas> lokks like i will not be around either...
02:09:30 <Belugas> going to sleep
02:09:34 <Belugas> night all
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10:06:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> ... i'm around now :)
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10:30:50 <Trenskow> what development IDE is used for the mac os x port ?
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10:54:54 <TrueBrain> vi? :p
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11:04:44 <TrueBrain> anyway, goodmorning all
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12:08:30 <Ammller> another time of 11 clients on our server (#openttdcoop)
12:09:01 <Ammller> but I have seen, you made some changes with max clients
12:09:15 <Ammller> what is the goad there?
12:09:29 <Ammller> goal
12:17:46 <Wolf01> i don't remember, is x_offs/y_offs or xoffs/yoffs to set in 32bpp png files?
12:17:53 <TrueBrain> Ammller: you were right, 11 clients was possible, but only because of an other change forgetting to change the MAX_CLIENTS to the correct value
12:17:58 <TrueBrain> x_offs Wolf01
12:18:05 <Wolf01> thank you TrueBrain :)
12:19:16 <Ammller> so you changed the code "only" that 11 clients aren't possible anymore
12:19:34 <Ammller> there will no changes be for more clients?
12:20:30 <TrueBrain> not at this tage
12:20:31 <TrueBrain> stage
12:20:36 <TrueBrain> I did some attempts on it some days ago
12:20:41 <TrueBrain> but it resulted in nasty segfaults :p
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12:23:11 <Ammller> TrueBrain: did you see my screen?
12:23:20 <TrueBrain> which?
12:23:40 <Ammller> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/User:Ammler#No_client_limit
12:25:05 <TrueBrain> impressive picture (??)
12:25:20 <TrueBrain> as we said tons of times before, raising the client-limit isn't hard
12:25:24 <TrueBrain> doing it properly is
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12:25:42 <Ammller> we played about 3 hours on that server
12:25:55 <Ammller> some others connected after
12:26:25 <Ammller> And since then I patched the #openttdcoop server to 11
12:27:18 <Ammller> as you can see on our status page, we have 11 of 11 clients connected
12:27:33 <Ammller> 12 needs patched clients too
12:27:41 <TrueBrain> no shit
12:27:55 <Ammller> :)
12:28:47 <Ammller> btw, I had to make space for others
12:29:13 <Ammller> so we could need at least 15 slots atm
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12:30:09 <Wolf01> TrueBrain, are you good in bash scripting?
12:30:19 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: only when I want to
12:30:54 <Wolf01> i'm writing a script for the pngcodec
12:31:16 <Wolf01> i'm stuck with the offset file to pass to the function
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12:31:44 <TrueBrain> I believe there are already several scripts to run pngcodec
12:31:55 <TrueBrain> check the pngcodec topic
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12:32:27 <Wolf01> the ones i seen have already the offsets hardcoded
12:32:42 <Wolf01> but i'll look again
12:33:53 <TrueBrain> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=606861#p606861
12:33:55 <TrueBrain> has some code for you
12:35:11 <Wolf01> mine was a little different http://rafb.net/p/8vruOc17.html
12:36:20 <TrueBrain> first $LIST should be $1 (or maybe $0, can't remember)
12:36:33 <TrueBrain> anyway, why make a function if you only call it once
12:36:34 <TrueBrain> bit silly
12:37:33 <Wolf01> i don't remember
12:38:14 <Wolf01> i took an old script i made to make a menu for chosing and display the text files of a folder
12:39:28 <Wolf01> oh, that's why.. the for list, i needed $1 $2 and $3
12:41:12 <Wolf01> the point in which i'm stuck was to pass groups of three arguments at the for list, like for VAR in "A1 B1 C1" "A2 B2 C2"...
12:41:45 <Wolf01> but i must read them from a file :P
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12:53:01 <Wolf01> uhm, ok, seem i've done it
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12:53:38 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: in the future I will add support to pngcodec to accept a file via the stdin, which sets all the x_offs and y_offs
12:54:42 <Wolf01> i hope it will accepts ranges of numbers and not all the grfs numbers in one file
12:55:17 <TrueBrain> how do you mean?
12:55:58 <Wolf01> i mean that if i want to change the offsets from 19 to 56 i should not process all the pngs i have
12:56:28 <TrueBrain> you can't mass-set pngs to a given offset, each sprite has its own offset... if not, you did something wrong :p
12:57:49 <Wolf01> no, i meant that if i redone only some pngs, i want to change the offsets of only those pngs, so i generate a txt file with their names and offsets only
12:58:07 <TrueBrain> the thing I ment is: pngcodec < list.txt
12:58:17 <TrueBrain> where list.txt is: file.png x_offs y_offs\nfile2.png x_offs y_offs
12:58:18 <TrueBrain> etc etc
12:58:56 <Wolf01> maybe we are saying the same thing :)
12:59:00 <TrueBrain> most likely
12:59:46 <glx> looks like it yes :)
12:59:59 <TrueBrain> tnx glx :)
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13:22:42 <Purno> is there any way to use a yearcheat in multiplayer?
13:22:53 <TrueBrain> nope
13:22:58 <Purno> damn that sucks
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13:40:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> only if you load it in single player, use the cheat, restart the server with the new savegame
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15:25:18 <Mark> !wiki
15:25:29 <Mark> !help
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15:37:56 <skidd13> @wiki
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15:38:37 <skidd13> hmm should be wiki.openttd.org
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15:39:21 <skidd13> Maedhros: I thought the bots answer the question... It must have been in #openttdcoop
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16:24:26 <alex__> how do you load a scenario with dedicated servers?
16:24:38 <alex__> do i load it like a normal saved game?
16:24:42 <glx> yes
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16:28:07 <alex__> what about settings
16:28:15 <alex__> like aircraft or breakdowns
16:28:20 <alex__> are they inside the scn file
16:28:23 <alex__> ?
16:28:43 <glx> yes they are, a scenario is like a savegame
16:29:28 <alex__> ok
16:32:44 <alex__> hmmmm
16:32:53 <alex__> which tab has breakdowns? vechiles? i cant find it
16:33:20 <glx> difficulty
16:34:49 <alex__> ok
16:34:54 <alex__> what abotu autoclean?
16:35:17 <glx> that's a server setting in openttd.cfg
16:36:03 <alex__> ok so you still need to load a cfg file with the save game
16:36:22 <glx> of course :)
16:36:44 <alex__> ta
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16:39:42 <alex__> can you load the scenario directly from the cfg file?
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16:47:02 <alex__> hmm on linux how do i load a scn file effectly?
16:47:07 <alex__> its not working for me when i run:
16:47:11 <alex__> ./openttd -c /root/.openttd/openttd4.cfg -D -g EUROPE.scn
16:47:25 <alex__> is this the correct way to do it, ? can someone help me
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16:48:10 <glx> it should work
16:48:16 <glx> where is the scenario?
16:48:40 <alex__> its where im running the proggie
16:48:46 <alex__> 1 sec
16:49:19 <alex__> ok its worked :D
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16:51:26 <alex__> join alexserver >> realworld: europe :D:D
16:56:49 <Tekky> Hi, I have a little question: I saved a game shortly before the end of the month. Because one of my favorite industries lost about 20% of production at the end of the month, I loaded the savegame which I had made before the end of the month. However, when I reached the end of the month again, exactly the same thing happened again. I guess this is because the random number generator seed is also stored in the savegame and therefore all random event
16:57:35 <glx> yes random is pseudo-random
16:57:47 <glx> that's why network games work
17:00:54 <Tekky> but both ExtChangeIndustryProduction() in industry_cmd.cpp and TownActionBribe() in town_cmd.cpp call Random() and not InteractiveRandom()? Since both functions use the same random number generator, why doesn't a town bribe reshuffle the state of the random number generator used by ExtChangeIndustryProduction() and thereby cause the production changes at the end of the month to be reshuffled?
17:01:57 <Tekky> This doesn't make any sense to me, even after having studied the source code for a whole hour.....
17:02:13 <Tekky> This is driving me crazy :)
17:08:41 <Tekky> I think I'll better ask this question in the development forum, since it doesn't seem that easy to answer...
17:14:00 <Tekky> ok, I have made a post to the development forum. If anyone can answer this question, please post to this thread: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=33676
17:18:53 <alex__> can someone please do a test for me and see how fast this map downloads for them:
17:18:57 <alex__> on
17:19:15 <alex__> 78.86.117.217:4050
17:19:28 <alex__> alexserver >> realworld: europe
17:19:29 <alex__> please
17:20:30 <Tekky> I'm afraid I've never used multiplayer before, let me see...
17:20:39 <Tekky> can I use the latest nightly?
17:20:42 <Tekky> or 0.5.2?
17:21:00 <Tekky> or 0.5.3 RC2?
17:21:28 <Tekky> or doesn't it matter which version I use?
17:24:51 <Tekky> ah, I see you are using 0.5.2
17:25:22 <Tekky> Sorry, I don't have 0.5.2 installed anymore.
17:25:36 <Tekky> I only have 0.5.3 RC2 and the latest nightly installed.
17:26:00 <Tekky> does anyone else have 0.5.2 installed?
17:43:29 <Sacro> me
17:43:49 <Sacro> dont see his though
17:49:58 <TrueBrain> Tekky: simple answer: bad luck! If you issue a bribe, the random is changed. Just it might be that it doesn't change enough....
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18:16:04 <TrueBrain> BioShock is a pretty good game :) hehe
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18:18:03 <hylje> :o
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18:19:15 <TrueBrain> hylje: you should talk to Progman
18:19:21 <TrueBrain> Progman: you should talk to hylje
18:19:22 <TrueBrain> so there
18:19:35 <hylje> we've talked already
18:19:41 <TrueBrain> good good
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18:20:28 <Progman> *g*
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18:22:33 <Ammller> was it ever discussed to rise the cost for terraforming (at least optional)?
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18:32:30 <SmatZ> oh, I am so overeaten today ...
18:33:55 <Sacro> i think you mean have :p
18:35:59 <alex__> what date do the metro/international/intercontinental airports come into the game?
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18:39:23 <SmatZ> maybe ... I just ate too much today
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19:01:06 <alex__> what date/year do the metro/international/intercontinental airports come into the game?
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19:16:42 <Rubidium> Ammller: 20 is not "no limit"
19:17:00 <Ammller> :) its only to show
19:17:39 <Rubidium> it only shows that increasing it to any arbitrary limit (less than a certain amount) is "easy"
19:17:50 <Rubidium> it does not show that removing the limit itself is easy
19:17:57 <Ammller> indeed
19:18:18 <Ammller> but removing the limit is not needed imo
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19:20:40 <Rubidium> no, but having a fairly large block of memory allocated for basically one server that really needs it is not OK. Furthermore, if we raise it to 20 in a few weeks you'll start complaining that 20 is too low too.
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19:24:22 <Phazorx> bf is touring complete as well...few weeks unlikely... and if/when it does happen that would eman the game gains popularity it deserves... which is generaly agood thing
19:24:32 <Phazorx> ignore 1st part
19:25:34 <Phazorx> 20 does sound like really guess number... 32 might sound better :)
19:26:04 <peter1138> dynamic is the way to go
19:26:22 <Phazorx> could not agree more :)
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19:37:46 <alex__> wow
19:37:51 <alex__> city block brownout in london
19:38:00 <alex__> felt like i was in the stone age for 15mins
19:39:35 <Sionide> cool
19:39:43 <Sionide> 15 mins isn't that long
19:40:53 <alex__> yeah
19:41:02 <alex__> but its wierd, like it felt like the end of the world
19:41:20 <alex__> all of the people in their flats went on their balconys and out their front doors
19:41:28 <alex__> and its dark here
19:41:37 <Sionide> i know :p
19:41:50 <Sionide> i'm in norwich at the mo heh
19:42:28 <Sionide> longest power out i had was a few hours, i went for a little ride round on my bike and got shouted at by some old woman who thought it was silly to cycle round in a power cut... i was thinking what else am i supposed to do :/
19:42:42 <SmatZ> alex__: did you think terrorists caused that?
19:43:11 <Sionide> ahahahhaaa
19:44:11 <Sionide> as if
19:44:18 <alex__> lol SmatZ
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19:46:15 <Smoovious> I had a circuit trip, right about the same time I started the microwave...
19:46:19 <Smoovious> I suspect terrorism...
19:47:12 <SmatZ> I am jusst curious how panic are UK people about terrorism :)
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19:48:16 <Smoovious> US are also... a steam pipe in NY fails... and they have to put out a statement that it wasn't related to terrorism... same with the bridge collapse... it is just silly...
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19:49:01 <Smoovious> just stop saying terrorism every time something goes wrong until there actually *_IS_* terrorism... putting out a statement all lthe time just doen't h elp
19:49:14 <Sionide> SmatZ, not at all, english terrorists are idiots who drive jeeps into the side of an airport terminal and kill precisely nobody except themselves
19:50:41 <SmatZ> :)
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20:20:45 <tbf> hi. what could cause openttd to freeze on startup on windows vista?
20:21:40 <Sacro> gremlins...
20:21:45 <Sacro> grab yer rifle...
20:22:47 <tbf> hmmm.... "skipping action 0x04 in stage 0"
20:24:08 <Sionide> tbf, what version?
20:27:49 <tbf> Sionide: 0.5.2 --- seems it doesn't like the dbset?
20:28:18 <Sionide> dunno, was gonna say submit a bug http://bugs.openttd.org/ *shrug*
20:29:13 <Bjarni> <Sionide> SmatZ, not at all, english terrorists are idiots who drive jeeps into the side of an airport terminal and kill precisely nobody except themselves <--- try to tell that to the people of London
20:29:57 <Sionide> they didn't do as much damage as they wanted to then either, thank god
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20:30:57 <Bjarni> stillunk1own: that's a silly name... I know you :P
20:31:19 <stillunk1own> Blame irssi ;-)
20:33:13 <Bjarni> http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2182 <-- err... that's likely the most odd reason for a delayed train that I have ever seen o_O
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20:34:41 <Bjarni> bye person, who we had yet to identify
20:38:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> "The train is _never_ late"
20:38:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> [Hiro]
20:39:03 <hylje> wut
20:39:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> no german would ever say that :p
20:39:37 <manveru> it used to be true... sometime in the 18th century :)
20:39:48 <TrueBrain> not even one from The Netherlands
20:41:22 <tbf> Eddi|zuHause2: well, berlin's s-bahn is on schedule over 98%
20:41:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't know germans from the netherlands :p
20:41:55 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: I do
20:42:28 <Sacro> come sit and fart in the duck!
20:42:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> tbf: the discussion in the episode was about the subway being 14 seconds delayed
20:43:23 <tbf> Eddi|zuHause2: ridicilous
20:43:58 <alex__> 09:20pm] <tbf> hi. what could cause openttd to freeze on startup on windows vista?
20:43:58 <alex__> [09:21pm] <Sacro> gremlins...
20:43:58 <alex__> [09:21pm] <Sacro> grab yer rifle...
20:44:02 <alex__> LMAO
20:44:31 <alex__> quality, that should be on bash.org
20:44:42 <Sacro> hehe
20:44:49 <tbf> OMG!
20:44:52 <Sacro> no quotes involving me ever get accepted :(
20:45:15 <Bjarni> go to qdb.us and searched for rejected Sacro quotes then
20:45:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> because Bjarni submits them, and he has a wrong kind of humor :p
20:45:37 <Sacro> http://qdb.us/56856
20:45:38 <Sacro> hehe
20:45:43 <Sacro> Patrick and his "really big gay"
20:46:04 <Sacro> what happened to Patric, and qball
20:46:34 <Sacro> http://qdb.us/64298 <- that was a fun 5 mins
20:46:56 <Bjarni> http://qdb.us/65775 <-- I don't know why this one was rejected
20:47:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually a quote from me is on german-bash.org :p
20:47:23 <Sacro> http://qdb.us/65107 <- i don't actually remember that
20:47:44 <Bjarni> LOL
20:47:54 <Bjarni> that's a great one
20:48:06 <Bjarni> never seen that one before
20:48:29 <Sacro> no, i don't remember it
20:48:36 <Sacro> http://qdb.us/78443
20:49:31 <alex__> all those quotes _suck_
20:49:36 <Sacro> :(
20:49:40 <TrueBrain> @kick Sacro Enough quotes already
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20:49:51 <TrueBrain> that we have to read them once is bad enough
20:49:56 <Sacro> it doesn't say that in the topic anymore
20:50:08 <Sacro> it used to be 2 quotes per 10 minutes or something
20:50:34 <Bjarni> http://qdb.us/100552 <--- is that our Sacro?
20:50:41 <TrueBrain> @kick Bjarni Enough quotes already
20:50:41 *** Bjarni was kicked by DorpsGek (Enough quotes already)
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20:50:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bjarni
20:50:57 <Bjarni> hey, I asked a valid question
20:50:57 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes, tis me
20:51:10 <Sacro> and Bucket is a bot :o
20:51:12 <TrueBrain> @op
20:51:12 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +o TrueBrain
20:51:17 <Sacro> @op
20:51:19 <Sacro> aww :(
20:51:27 *** TrueBrain changes topic to "0.5.2 | Bash link or qdb link == ban, period"
20:51:52 <Sacro> :(
20:52:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://german-bash.org/123684
20:53:06 *** TrueBrain sets mode: +b Eddi|zuHause2!*@*
20:53:06 *** Eddi|zuHause2 was kicked by TrueBrain (Go kick)
20:53:11 <Sacro> :o
20:53:14 <TrueBrain> why do people challange me?
20:53:17 <Sacro> TrueBrain: he has his army of clones
20:53:23 *** TrueBrain sets mode: -b Eddi|zuHause2!*@*
20:53:26 <Sacro> thers about 6 Eddi|zuHauses
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20:54:14 <peter1138> thank god for some sanity
20:54:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> it was technically not a real bash link...
20:54:22 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: really, don't challange me
20:55:10 *** peter1138 changes topic to "0.5.2 | IRC quote website link == ban, period"
20:55:21 <ln-> http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
20:55:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> fine :p
20:55:23 <TrueBrain> you are right peter113, much more clear :)
20:55:38 <peter1138> ln-: you're safe now ;p
20:55:38 *** TrueBrain sets mode: +b *!*@*.fi
20:55:38 *** ln- was kicked by TrueBrain (ln-)
20:55:40 <Sacro> should that be == ?
20:55:46 <peter1138> or not :p
20:55:48 <TrueBrain> no peter1138, that was really weak
20:56:02 <peter1138> i needed that link
20:56:07 <peter1138> i'd forgotten what bash wasw
20:56:07 <TrueBrain> lol :)
20:56:15 *** TrueBrain sets mode: -b *!*@*.fi
20:56:16 *** TrueBrain changes topic to "0.5.2 | Bash link or qdb link == ban, period"
20:56:21 <TrueBrain> huh?
20:56:26 <Sacro> TrueBrain: nice of you to ban the whole of finland
20:56:41 *** TrueBrain changes topic to "0.5.2 | IRC quote website link == ban, period"
20:56:46 <TrueBrain> I have a really really bad IRC client
20:56:57 <Sionide> IRC quote website link == your whole country gets banned, period
20:56:57 *** Bjarni sets mode: +b *!*@*.dd
20:56:58 <Sionide> :P
20:57:06 <Bjarni> I wanted to try to ban a whole country as well
20:57:11 <TrueBrain> Sionide: yeah, social control :)
20:57:16 <Sacro> Bjarni: dd?
20:57:22 <Sacro> you don't like large chested women?
20:57:25 <Sionide> aka. genocide
20:57:30 <Bjarni> Sacro: DDR
20:57:37 <Sacro> dance dance revolution?
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20:57:40 <Sacro> double data rate?
20:57:40 <peter1138> i need cheap 1u servers, ftw
20:57:54 <TrueBrain> peter1138: just the server?
20:58:00 <peter1138> yeah
20:58:02 <Sacro> actually, it worries me which acronym came to my mind first
20:58:06 <Bjarni> Deutsche Demokratiche Replublik (don't quote my spelling :p)
20:58:14 <TrueBrain> peter1138: put it together yourself, cheapest I can get :)
20:58:22 <peter1138> so far i've got £300
20:58:31 <TrueBrain> cheaper than I can get it
20:58:37 <peter1138> for a 1ghz via
20:58:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> minus the superfluous 'l', Bjarni
20:59:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> and there's an s missing before the "ch"
20:59:21 <TrueBrain> peter1138: for what you need it? That slow :p
20:59:37 <Bjarni> dammit. Half of my spelling mistakes are due to typos >_<
21:00:16 <Bjarni> and I would likely have added the s if I had looked at it before hitting enter :s
21:00:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> afaik, no .dd domain ever got reserved...
21:00:30 <peter1138> TrueBrain: to replace 'servers' which currently run with p200s
21:00:37 <peter1138> dns, monitoring, etc...
21:00:37 <TrueBrain> iek! Lol :)
21:00:58 <peter1138> they're in desktop cases too
21:01:17 <TrueBrain> add a VPS on a real server :p hehe
21:01:17 <peter1138> some with big power hungry scsi drives (4GB)
21:01:34 <Sacro> !calc
21:01:35 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: we will keep the ban. If you all of a sudden are banned, then we encountered a temporal anomaly and you are stuck in commi land :p
21:01:35 <Sacro> err
21:01:36 <_42_> Sacro: no value returned
21:01:42 <peter1138> not got a server to run that on
21:01:43 <Sacro> damn, i forgot how to work out the area of a circle
21:01:43 <Sionide> peter1138, i've got.. i think 6, p450 in compact desktop cases sitting downstairs
21:01:52 <peter1138> and that kind of negates hardware redundancy
21:01:56 <Sacro> is it pi*r^2?
21:02:09 <TrueBrain> peter1138: very true :) Good luck hunting a cheap one ;)
21:02:33 *** TrueBrain sets mode: -b *!*@*.dd
21:02:46 <Sacro> !calc pi*14^2
21:02:46 <_42_> Sacro: 0;
21:02:49 <Sacro> hmm
21:02:50 <Sacro> !calc pi
21:02:52 <_42_> Sacro: 0;
21:02:57 <Sacro> stupid bot
21:02:57 <TrueBrain> !calc a(4)
21:02:58 <_42_> TrueBrain: 1.3258176636;
21:03:06 <Bjarni> http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2219 <--- LOL. 23 minutes of recorded Japanese train departure sounds XD
21:03:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> *waves hand* that is not the pi that you search
21:03:21 <TrueBrain> !calc a(0) * 4
21:03:22 <_42_> TrueBrain: 0;
21:03:24 <TrueBrain> hehe
21:03:39 <Sacro> hmm
21:03:44 <TrueBrain> !calc a(1) * 4
21:03:44 <_42_> TrueBrain: 3.1415926532;
21:03:51 <Sacro> that pizza was apprently 615 square inches :\
21:03:51 <ln-> *.dd was banned? impressive.
21:03:58 <Bjarni> Sacro: pi is 4.... in some US state
21:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: yeah, about 1 minute before you came back
21:04:30 <Bjarni> ln-: yeah, I wanted to keep stasi out of this channel
21:04:41 <peter1138> Sacro: that's a large pizza...
21:04:48 <Sacro> peter1138: yes... 14 inches
21:05:01 <Sacro> only just fitted the box into the wheelie bin
21:05:12 <Sacro> though some places do 16" pizzas
21:05:15 <Bjarni> wheelie bin?
21:05:22 <Sacro> Bjarni: yeah
21:05:35 <Bjarni> are you in a wheelchair or something?
21:05:36 <peter1138> Sacro: pizza sizes are usually diameter, not radius, no?
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21:05:41 <Bjarni> what is it? :)
21:05:45 <Sacro> Bjarni:
21:05:51 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelie_bin
21:05:55 <Sacro> peter1138: ah yes...
21:06:01 <Sacro> hehe
21:06:04 <Bjarni> ahh
21:06:05 <Sacro> no wonder it was so large
21:06:14 <Bjarni> I know those
21:06:14 <Sacro> should be pi*64
21:06:23 <Sacro> not pie*256
21:06:24 <Bjarni> never needed the English name for them though
21:06:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> how do you get 256 from 14^2?
21:07:46 <SmatZ> by adding 60
21:07:53 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: good question
21:08:00 <Sacro> i think i did 16^2
21:08:04 <Sacro> yeah
21:08:08 <Sacro> why not
21:08:23 <Sacro> actually, i first went wrong by doing 14/2 and getting 8
21:09:49 <TrueBrain> Sacro: by any chance you run a bank? :p
21:10:34 <Sacro> TrueBrain: nah, i could do though
21:10:37 <Sacro> i have a spare cupboard
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21:15:09 *** TrueBrain changes topic to "0.5.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | mom is not an appropriate abbreviation for moment, but mo is."
21:15:49 *** TrueBrain changes topic to "0.5.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | No 'mom', no IRC Quote Website links"
21:16:09 <Sacro> aww but mom :(
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21:18:48 <Sacro> yay
21:18:55 <Sacro> i have Windows Flip 3D in linux :D
21:19:04 <TrueBrain> some people :p
21:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> i thought i explained that already, "mom" is a common abbreviation in german for "moment"
21:19:37 <Sacro> can we use secs?
21:19:38 <TrueBrain> too bad for you this is an english channel
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21:20:49 <TrueBrain> I hate all those joins and leaves :p
21:21:06 <Sionide> put no florping in the topic as well
21:21:18 <Sacro> TrueBrain: should we leave for good?
21:21:23 <Sacro> have a last man standing channel
21:21:27 <TrueBrain> Sacro: rather stay here for ever :p
21:21:43 <Sacro> TrueBrain: yes, but there are freqently power cuts
21:21:45 <Sionide> to florp, is the verb (made up by myself and friends) which means to join/part without saying anything
21:21:47 <Sacro> or drops in internet
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21:22:08 <Sacro> Sionide: lots of people in here do that
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21:22:19 <TrueBrain> Sacro: I want a law against power cuts
21:22:31 <Sacro> TrueBrain: would be a nice idea
21:23:33 <TrueBrain> so let's take a vote!
21:23:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> you should put in the topic that joining and leaving is also forbidden :p
21:23:58 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: but then people might join
21:24:00 <Sacro> read the top
21:24:04 <Sacro> *topic, and leave
21:24:30 <Sacro> you need to get oftc to put it in the server messages
21:24:56 <Wolf01> 'night
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21:25:01 <TrueBrain> night Wolf01
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21:25:20 <Sacro> 482 seconds?
21:25:25 <Sacro> thats not a very round number
21:25:48 <Sacro> also, when did *he* last say anything?
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21:30:38 <Smoovious> <TrueBrain> so let's take a vote! <--- checks the 'yes' box
21:31:24 <Bjarni> vote on what?
21:31:37 <Smoovious> a law against power cuts
21:31:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> expelling all people whose name starts with B from this channel
21:31:50 <Sionide> * mikk36 has quit (Ping timeout: 482 seconds) <<130 seconds later>> * mikk36[EST] has quit (Ping timeout: 483 seconds)
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21:32:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i have a feeling it will not come through :p
21:32:05 <mikk36> no idea what's wrong with oftc
21:32:30 <mikk36> erm
21:32:32 <mikk36> (00:24:09) Closing Link: ip79.cab15.ktln.starman.ee (Registration timed out)
21:32:32 <mikk36> (00:24:09) * Disconnected
21:32:37 <Sionide> odd
21:32:38 <mikk36> yeah
21:32:41 <mikk36> never seen that
21:36:34 <mikk36> hmm
21:37:34 <Bjarni> <Smoovious> a law against power cuts <-- no. Important stuff should be run by UPS/batteries/generator (like I do)
21:37:35 <mikk36> it didn't automatically identify me
21:37:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> let's all move to freenode because oftc sucks :p
21:37:41 <Smoovious> Bjarni... hey, its not my proposal...
21:37:41 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2> expelling all people whose name starts with B from this channel <-- no. That wouldn't apply to my standards about how to treat people
21:37:41 <Bjarni> if the letter had been E instead, then it's another story
21:37:41 <Bjarni> Smoovious: I know, but I said how you should solve the issue by yourself
21:37:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> let's ban all people who have a vowel in their nick :p
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21:37:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> :p
21:37:58 <_> let's ban everybody with letters in their nick
21:37:58 <Smoovious> Bjarni... my vote doesn't even count anyways... :P wrong voting district
21:37:58 <_> --- Bjarni :No such nick/channel
21:37:58 <Smoovious> alright, a compromise... only ban people who have non-alphanumerics in their nicks
21:37:58 <_> don't speak to people, who aren't present
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21:38:40 <TrueBrain> hmm, there is a nice delay on the network....
21:38:40 <TrueBrain> (just a slow 40s)
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21:56:56 <Sacro> hello DorpsGek
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21:57:35 <Sacro> hello _42_
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22:02:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> belugas is still missing
22:02:54 <TrueBrain> he will join when ever Belugas connects to the bouncer
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22:07:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> he hasn't said anything the whole day...
22:07:23 <TrueBrain> weekend :)
22:07:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah :)
22:20:12 <TrueBrain> I wish I could put infinite amount of time in a second
22:20:13 <TrueBrain> would be useful
22:20:25 <TrueBrain> oh well, maybe once I master the skills of lightspeed
22:20:59 <Smoovious> think lightspeed is more of a knack than a skill
22:21:19 <TrueBrain> I say it is a skill you can learn to master :)
22:21:48 <TrueBrain> what happens when you push N servers which are on top of eachother into a full system update? (Gentoo, so it compiles a lot)
22:22:05 <TrueBrain> Exactly, the temp goes from a nice 20 C to around 40 C in 5 minutes :p
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22:24:17 <TrueBrain> bye KritiK
22:24:20 <TrueBrain> nice of you to join
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22:24:40 <TrueBrain> anyway, I always wondered something about this channel.. there are 86 people in here, and only 10 or 20 talk
22:24:53 <TrueBrain> around 30 I never saw saying a single word (my IRC client confirms)
22:24:59 <Lillefix> most is playing... arent they?
22:25:08 <TrueBrain> even backtracing it to the move from freenode
22:25:12 <TrueBrain> they joined here.. but didn't say a word
22:25:20 <TrueBrain> Lillefix: it is frustrating... they are watching every word we say
22:25:27 <TrueBrain> who knows they are CIA or something!
22:25:35 * TrueBrain enables his encryption...
22:25:44 <TrueBrain> welcome Lillefix to this channel of paranoia! How can we help you today?
22:25:52 * Lillefix hacks TrueBrains encryption
22:26:12 * Lillefix is a part of Langleys organisation!
22:26:25 <TrueBrain> a part? Poor soul!
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22:27:28 * Lillefix listens... "Poor soul!" Sounds like a crimeplan to him...
22:27:55 <TrueBrain> it is
22:27:59 <TrueBrain> now I type in my CMD: HACK FBI
22:28:08 <TrueBrain> (clearly I watched way too much Hackers)
22:28:34 * Lillefix quickly calls his friend in the bureau!
22:29:18 <SmatZ> I wonder, who for example qfh is - he/she/it is only at #openttd and has been idle fot 71,4 days - I think I didn't use Konversation before, so...
22:29:30 <Smoovious> am I the only one who gets irritated watching "The Net", whenever the IP comes on the screen with one 'digit' above the 8-bit limit?
22:29:34 * Lillefix has to visit the bathroom, but beware! He will always listen!
22:29:59 <Rubidium> Smoovious: not only "The Net"
22:30:13 <Smoovious> first one that came to mind
22:30:50 <Smoovious> everyone else is watching the movie intently while I'm going "That's not even a valid IP!!!"
22:31:08 <SmatZ> Smoovious: the movie with Sandra Bullock, where super-secret-access is granted after Ctrl+click at some image using regular web browser?
22:31:22 <Smoovious> yeah, that's t he o ne
22:32:21 <TrueBrain> @seen qfh
22:32:21 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: I have not seen qfh.
22:32:26 <TrueBrain> lol, he NEVER talked
22:32:32 <SmatZ> :-D
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22:32:56 <TrueBrain> Smoovious: same as phone-numbers always start with 555- (in US movies), which is invalid
22:33:16 <TrueBrain> @seen blazer
22:33:16 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: I have not seen blazer.
22:33:21 <TrueBrain> @seen goddamnit
22:33:21 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: I have not seen goddamnit.
22:33:26 <TrueBrain> @seen KageDragon
22:33:26 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: I have not seen KageDragon.
22:33:27 <Rubidium> @seen me
22:33:27 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: I have not seen me.
22:33:33 <TrueBrain> just 4 random names that never talked...
22:33:35 <TrueBrain> @seen Rubidium
22:33:35 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Rubidium was last seen in #openttd 7 seconds ago: <Rubidium> @seen me
22:33:41 <Rubidium> @seen myself
22:33:41 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: I have not seen myself.
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22:33:47 <Smoovious> 555- is valid... technically... all 555-**** numbers go to directory assistance
22:34:21 <TrueBrain> and when a movie uses some weird number in Bruce Almighty, it ends up with a guy that is going crazy about the calls asking if this is God
22:34:23 <TrueBrain> stupid people
22:34:35 <Rubidium> DorpsGek is, uhm, blind? Or he doesn't have a mirror...
22:34:48 <TrueBrain> DorpsGek: indeed: he is blind
22:34:54 <SmatZ> @seen naked_girls
22:34:54 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: I have not seen naked_girls.
22:34:55 <TrueBrain> I did not equip DorpsGek with any optical sensors
22:35:12 <Rubidium> then how could it have seen me?
22:35:16 <SpComb> would that have any influence on the above?
22:35:36 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I did fake some optical sensors in a limited way
22:35:44 <Rubidium> SpComb: yes
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22:36:00 <Rubidium> it would have seen himself if it had a mirror and a vision system
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22:37:51 <TrueBrain> so there... I am bored
22:37:56 <TrueBrain> maybe I should get some sleep
22:38:00 <Rubidium> nah
22:38:06 <TrueBrain> boring activity
22:39:07 <Rubidium> finish NoAI ;)
22:39:19 <TrueBrain> NoAI.. pff :)
22:39:20 <SpComb> DorpsGek is female and naked?
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22:39:29 <TrueBrain> SpComb: only in your dreams
22:39:37 <SpComb> that's what Rubidium claimed
22:39:38 <TrueBrain> which is okay by me inf act
22:40:32 <Rubidium> where did I claim DorpsGek is female and naked?
22:41:00 <SmatZ> @seen DorpsGek
22:41:00 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: I have not seen DorpsGek.
22:41:11 <SmatZ> he should at least hear himself
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22:41:59 <SmatZ> SpComb: I was asking if he has ever seen a naked girls
22:42:14 <SpComb> <@DorpsGek> SmatZ: I have not seen naked_girls. < TrueBrain> I did not equip DorpsGek with any optical sensors < SpComb> would that have any influence on the above? < Rubidium> it would have seen himself if it had a mirror and a vision system
22:42:45 <TrueBrain> SpComb: big mistake, thinking I was talking to SmatZ
22:43:30 <SmatZ> ahhhh , I am a bit misunderstanting this debate :-)
22:44:32 <Bjarni> <SmatZ> SpComb: I was asking if he has ever seen a naked girls <-- we are online. It's really unlikely if he haven't
22:44:46 <Bjarni> but
22:44:51 <Bjarni> it's an old joke
22:45:03 <TrueBrain> and a bad one
22:45:09 <Bjarni> that too
22:45:19 <TrueBrain> maybe we can even call it a really bad old joke
22:45:22 <SpComb> @seen spoon
22:45:22 <DorpsGek> SpComb: I have not seen spoon.
22:45:29 <TrueBrain> @seen a\ spoon
22:45:29 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: seen [<channel>] <nick>
22:45:30 <SpComb> pfft, vastly inferior to patchbot
22:45:31 <TrueBrain> :p
22:45:32 <SmatZ> yes, it is an old and bad joke, but I smile everytime somebody does it
22:45:41 * SmatZ <-- strange
22:45:44 <TrueBrain> agreed
22:45:54 <Bjarni> totally
22:48:50 <Bjarni> @seen sanity
22:48:50 <DorpsGek> Bjarni: I have not seen sanity.
22:49:02 <Bjarni> I figured that since he is always in here
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22:57:34 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10931 /trunk/src/station.cpp: -Fix [FS#1131]: when a station was destroyed and a vehicle was still loading, changing the current order of the loading vehicle caused a crash. This could happen with removing docks and oil rigs.
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23:16:09 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: there is Belugas again :)
23:16:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> good :)
23:16:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> now he can tell me what he wanted to tell yesterday :)
23:17:01 <Belugas> hi :)
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23:30:10 <Rubidium> evening Belugas ;)
23:30:35 <TrueBrain> ngiht all
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23:54:44 <Belugas> hello guys :) sorry, i was taking care of my son :)
23:58:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> family should always go first :)