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00:05:21 <UnderBuilder> OTTDmaster looks like a non-highway version of jasper lol
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00:09:31 <Sacro> err..
00:09:39 <Sacro> i think its graphics_master actually
00:10:48 <Sacro> come on greenday
00:11:01 <Sacro> why is "Welcome to Paradise" on your new album...
00:11:15 <RichK67_> gnight
00:11:43 <Sacro> night RichK67_
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00:13:40 <simon444> hi
00:14:06 <simon444> is there any quick way of making a 2x2 gird in the map editor
00:14:14 <simon444> doing it manually is very slow
00:14:30 <simon444> I spent 10min and saw that I have a lot to go
00:14:35 <simon444> maybe another 20min
00:14:42 <simon444> s/20/40
00:15:53 <Rubidium> code such functionality, though I wonder whether you can do that in under 40 minutes
00:16:45 <simon444> I am stupid!
00:16:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10684 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: some more coding style related changes. Primarily moving { to a new line.
00:25:45 <simon444> no comment?
00:28:50 <simon444> this is going to take for ever
00:28:56 <XeryusTC> 2x2 grid? for town roads?
00:29:10 <simon444> I have only done 25% of one direction
00:29:13 <simon444> XeryusTC, yes
00:29:27 <XeryusTC> hmm
00:29:31 <XeryusTC> set town growth to 2x2
00:29:39 <XeryusTC> click expand loads of times
00:29:58 <XeryusTC> or download the lomo click tool and use it on ottd
00:30:10 <simon444> I tried something similar and it stuffed it
00:30:17 <XeryusTC> :o
00:30:24 <simon444> I will try what you say
00:30:30 <simon444> with the 2x2
00:32:24 <simon444> stll fucks up
00:34:27 <simon444> no matter if I put it on 2x2 or 3x3 it does 1x1
00:35:25 <simon444> well it seems to be doing 1x1 or 1x2
00:35:53 <NukeBuster> it seems to work when making a city manually
00:36:19 <simon444> let me try like that (i.e. with no preset roads
00:36:49 <simon444> NukeBuster, yeah it works like that
00:37:01 <simon444> just fucks up when there are some roads there already
00:37:12 <simon444> it does 1x1 or 1x2
00:46:08 <simon444> wow expanding a city in more than 1 million population really stuffs ottd up
00:47:43 <NukeBuster> Anyone know if it's normal for text to be drawn outside the "configure patches" window? I'm seeing this using language set to dutch
00:50:52 <JazzyJaffa> I keep getting Xlib: "unexpected async reply (sequence 0x75)" on starting a new game any ideas? I don't even know where to start with that error
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00:53:35 <simon444> JazzyJaffa, I think it is a X/opengl problem
00:56:20 <JazzyJaffa> hmm, nasty
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01:38:50 <simon444> I found a bug
01:38:56 <simon444> or should I say a feature
01:39:02 <simon444> expand a city
01:39:06 <simon444> then bomb it
01:39:13 <simon444> then expand it again
01:39:21 <simon444> everything turns into buildings!
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02:54:50 <simon444> is there a limit on how many bus stations you can have per city?
02:55:53 <Digitalfox_Notebook> I believe theres no limit..
02:56:20 <Digitalfox_Notebook> Only airports may you have 2
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05:46:47 <rav> Dalestan: I just love your post here:
05:46:48 <rav> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33291#p611661
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08:53:24 <TrueBrain> @kick simon444 time to cool down
08:53:28 <TrueBrain> argh!
08:53:38 <simon444> wow
08:53:43 <TrueBrain> @kick simon444 time to cool down
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08:53:45 <TrueBrain> finally :)
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08:54:15 <hylje> bounce less
08:54:46 <simon444> I have problem
08:55:01 <simon444> the city wont let me build more than 22 bus stations
08:55:02 <TrueBrain> one single?
08:55:19 <simon444> they are basically every second block
08:55:32 <simon444> I am looking at building 1000 bus stations
08:55:42 <simon444> and 1000 mail stations
08:55:48 <hylje> what
08:55:49 <simon444> and cover every block
08:55:52 <hylje> rename them
08:56:04 <Rubidium> won't get him to 1000
08:56:04 <simon444> hylje, what do you mean?
08:56:08 <hylje> the game cant generate enough names for that
08:56:16 <Rubidium> he should just be using trunk
08:56:16 <ln-> simon444: how old are you?
08:56:23 <simon444> hylje, oh
08:56:34 <simon444> ln-, I lived 1984 lets say that
08:56:56 <simon444> I basically trying to do an ingame hong kong
08:57:12 <simon444> they freaking have bus stops and post offices everywhere!
08:58:27 <simon444> hylje, renamed one and it still doesn't let
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08:58:40 <hylje> its a bit flaky
08:58:43 <simon444> hylje, gives the error town authority doesn't allow
08:58:53 <ThePizzaKing> plant trees!
08:58:58 <simon444> is that because my rating is too low?
08:59:01 <hylje> yes
08:59:04 <simon444> ThePizzaKing, how and why?
08:59:11 <ThePizzaKing> towns like trees
08:59:21 <ThePizzaKing> there's a button somewhere there
08:59:30 <simon444> ThePizzaKing, there is no free space
09:00:14 <ThePizzaKing> hmmm, well, I guess you're stuck
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09:03:38 <simon888> <ThePizzaKing> there's a button somewhere there
09:03:39 <simon888> <simon444> ThePizzaKing, there is no free space
09:04:01 <ThePizzaKing> Not sure then
09:04:29 <ThePizzaKing> Does delivering passengers make them happy? I haven't played openTTD in a while.
09:04:41 <hylje> yes
09:04:49 <hylje> but it takes time
09:05:36 <ThePizzaKing> There you go, make a bus, send it off, Fast Forward, come back tomorrow, bankrupt, oops, done.
09:05:46 <Rubidium> could use drive through stations, but ofcourse for that you need trunk
09:06:58 <simon888> Rubidium, I am
09:07:09 <simon888> Rubidium, that is the whole thing I am doing
09:07:25 <Rubidium> then the town rating shouldn't go down, unless you destroy houses
09:07:42 <hylje> destroying trees brings rating down too
09:07:57 <simon888> having drive through every second block
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09:08:17 <simon888> hylje, what is the some propaganda tool?
09:08:30 <hylje> what
09:08:37 * simon888 notes he went to a few tree protests during his life
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09:12:03 <simon444> shit. I was chowing on some meat and something seemed to be elasticy. and guess what I find? A rubber band!
09:12:40 <ln-> no livestock and rubber on same train then.
09:14:23 <simon444> I think I might start eating halal/kosher. this sort of crap doesn't happen happen with their meat?
09:18:17 <Priski> chop down trees and replant them
09:19:10 <Priski> "Currently you can exploit the game by clearing ~200 trees and then replanting them. This sets the rating to -1000 (the minimum), and then raises it to 220."
09:23:24 <simon444> making a new smaller but similar map
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09:53:00 <simon444> I think I found a bug
09:53:28 <simon444> I have enabled building stations on city roads
09:53:55 <simon444> after my 20th or so station I could build the first part
09:54:12 <simon444> but when I want to join another station to it
09:54:24 <simon444> it says the road is owned by someone (lit.
09:54:52 <simon444> however if the station is not joined I can still build on that bit of road
09:55:29 <simon444> solution: bomb the road and rebuild it
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10:20:44 <skidd13> TrueBrain: I hope your issues with the perfromance meter are with my latest patch solved.
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10:43:49 <laci> hello everyone!
10:44:40 <laci> Does anyone know what to do if the local authority refuses to let me build an airport near the city? (i'm appaling)
10:44:59 <laci> how do I increase my image with the local authority?
10:45:00 <Zavior> Destroy every possible tree in near vicinity
10:45:04 <Zavior> That is the key :P
10:45:09 <laci> destroy?
10:45:11 <Zavior> Then replant it
10:45:13 <Zavior> Yes
10:45:14 <laci> aha
10:45:21 <Zavior> It gains more reputation that it loses
10:45:22 <laci> I've planted a lot of trees buyt nothing
10:45:33 <Zavior> You have to destroy the old ones
10:45:37 <laci> aha
10:45:47 <laci> and plant how many trees per square?
10:45:51 <Zavior> One is enough
10:45:55 <laci> ok
10:45:58 <laci> thank you...
10:46:00 <laci> brb
10:46:05 <laci> i'm going to see if it works
10:46:08 <Zavior> =)
10:46:14 <laci> how much time do I need for it to work?
10:46:27 <Zavior> Depends how quickly you destroy & replant them :
10:46:31 <laci> and how did I create this very poor image?
10:46:41 <Zavior> Probably by terraforming
10:46:45 <Zavior> Or destroying a lot of trees
10:46:46 <laci> mining?
10:47:07 <laci> anyway.. thank you... i'll get back to my game to see if it works:)
10:47:18 <Zavior> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Removing_a_city
10:47:35 <Zavior> That goes for removing a whole city, but you can stick to raising the rep :p
10:47:57 <Zavior> Placing trees is the part you need there
10:49:09 <laci> yea...
10:49:18 <laci> it raised to very poor
10:49:32 <laci> but I was very poor cause I invested 4 mil. in the city
10:49:35 <laci> in new buildings...
10:49:39 <Zavior> :D
10:49:48 <laci> what do to? I need that intercontinental airport
10:50:05 <Zavior> If you dont have money I guess you'll have to wait until you got some
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10:50:25 <Zavior> Unless you want to cheat that tree thing is the only way I know :<
10:50:45 <laci> i have more then enough money
10:51:01 <laci> i said I just invested 4 mil in new buiilding and it raised it to very poor
10:51:15 <laci> then i cleared the land and planted new trees... and i'm still at very poor
10:51:18 <Zavior> I would have gone with the trees :p
10:51:22 <Zavior> Then do it again
10:51:28 <laci> clear the new trees?
10:51:31 <Zavior> Yes
10:51:33 <Zavior> And replant the,m
10:51:34 <laci> ok
10:52:45 <laci> i'm still at very poor
10:52:48 <laci> mrrrr
10:52:56 <Zavior> You need to do it several times
10:53:00 <laci> ok
10:53:02 <laci> wait
10:53:04 <laci> :)
10:53:23 <Zavior> Of course there is a possibility that it has been changed, but I doubt it :p
10:54:33 <laci> ok
10:54:35 <laci> it worked
10:54:41 <laci> i'm poor now and i can build a bus stop
10:54:51 <laci> then raise it to good then build my airport:D
10:54:54 <laci> thanks
10:55:08 <Zavior> I think you could get higher with the trees
10:55:16 <Zavior> But buses work too :p
10:55:19 <laci> :)
10:55:21 <laci> thx
10:55:25 <laci> bye for now
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11:27:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10685 /trunk/src/terraform_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#1076]: graphical glitches when the "link landscape toolbar" patch is turned on when opening one of the construction toolbars.
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12:05:47 <simon444> tree are gay
12:06:08 <simon444> if not those male trees are doing very weird things
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12:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> over 90% of all trees are "hermaphrodites" ...
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12:13:59 <Smoovious> asexual
12:14:11 <simon444> what are ottd trees?
12:14:35 <simon444> they don't seem so normal
12:14:46 <Smoovious> those tree-like looing things that are sticking out of empty land when transparent buildings are turned off
12:14:55 <Smoovious> looking
12:15:24 <simon444> yes???
12:15:57 <Smoovious> yup
12:16:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> they are pixel based sprites
12:16:24 <simon444> okay... complete that sentence
12:16:56 <Smoovious> um... they are complete
12:17:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> they reproduce by binary operations...
12:17:15 <simon444> r0z0rz
12:17:26 <simon444> r0x0rz
12:17:37 * Smoovious wonders about setting up tree growth based on the game of life...
12:17:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> i should really have ignored you when i said it...
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12:22:13 <simon444> Eddi|zuHause3, no you shouldn't
12:22:33 <simon444> Eddi|zuHause3, you should tell me to drink some coca-cola
12:22:51 <simon444> I have ran out of cola for over 20 hours!
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12:24:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> there is an easy solution to that...
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12:24:58 <Wezz6400> ahh, silence
12:25:57 <simon444> Eddi|zuHause3, I ordered more from coca-cola but because of a strike it wont come for another 30 hours!
12:26:40 <simon444> (Yes, I have a private account with coca-cola. By request of doctor.)
12:27:13 <Smoovious> ...
12:29:19 <peter1138> uh huh
12:32:09 <Jango> prolly easiest just to go to the corner shop to get some coke
12:32:57 <Jango> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6915546.stm
12:35:07 <simon444> Jango, no I have to drink a special type of coca-cola
12:35:37 <simon444> coca-cola only offer this to private people with doctor's prescription
12:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> oh... the "special ingredient" thing :p
12:36:59 <Jango> well.. in fairness, I did say "coke" as opposed to "coca-cola"
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12:40:34 <simon444> Eddi|zuHause3, it contains real sugar, no caffeine, and a lot more carbonated.
12:41:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, that's what i'd tell the people also :p
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12:49:05 <Smoovious> the medical community there are a bunch of quacks, eh? People still die of consumption, and get treated for the vapors?
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13:08:18 <simon444> Eddi|zuHause3, what?
13:08:43 <simon444> I require more than normal amounts of sugar for my brain
13:08:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> nüchtsnüchts... :p
13:09:49 <simon444> I don't speak German
13:10:17 <simon444> but I read that as German for 'nutcase'
13:11:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... that's not quite the meaning...
13:13:11 <simon444> nucht = nuts
13:13:20 <simon444> snuchts ??
13:14:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> "nichts" = "nothing"
13:14:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> the "ü" is just a dialect thing
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13:15:27 <Gekko[PDA]> Eddi|zuHause3: yay German.
13:15:33 <Wezz6400> hmm
13:15:38 <Wezz6400> time to put on some rammstein
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13:16:06 <Gekko[PDA]> Tatu.
13:16:35 <Wezz6400> Tatu, that's the two russian girls right?
13:16:49 <Gekko[PDA]> yes
13:16:58 <Gekko[PDA]> lesbi friends.
13:17:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> they have great.... voices :)
13:18:10 <simon444> Eddi|zuHause3, snuchts?
13:18:17 <simon444> such?
13:18:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> simon444: no, it's twice the same word...
13:18:57 <Gekko[PDA]> lol Eddi|zuHause3
13:19:06 <Gekko[PDA]> mircslap them
13:19:13 <simon444> nothingnothing
13:19:26 <simon444> wtf is the ':p' for?
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13:19:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> nothing :)
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13:20:52 <Wezz6400> are you listening to the old stuff or did they make new stuff?
13:21:22 <Gekko[PDA]> me?
13:21:27 <Gekko[PDA]> neither.
13:21:36 <Wezz6400> lol
13:21:55 <Wezz6400> I liked the music too actually, though it does go best with the video clips ^^
13:21:56 <Priski> god I hate those girls even though i might like some of the songs
13:25:50 <Priski> althought tatu + rammstein - pruzinki is very nice cd. I have no slightest idea what they are singning but it sure sounds good :)
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13:26:51 <Wezz6400> hmm don't have that one
13:27:10 <Wezz6400> currently listening to reise reise, a very good cd by rammstein imho
13:27:46 <Priski> i'm guessing that it was published mainly in russia
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14:37:49 <dihedral> hello ladies ^^
14:38:50 <JazzyJaffa> *swoon*
14:42:22 <simon444> time to watch colbert
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14:47:49 <skidd13> Any dev comments to the new performance meter patch?
14:48:52 <simon444> Modest Porpoisal -- great stuff
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14:54:36 <Smoovious> dolphins?
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15:04:43 <simon444> Smoovious, COLBERT report
15:04:48 <simon444> caps lock
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15:06:52 <matt4> hi
15:06:57 <Noldo> hi
15:07:43 <matt4> it says there should of been almost 90 people...i was expecting a more busy room:p
15:08:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> and you judge that from 30 seconds of being here?
15:08:48 <Smoovious> this isn't a cybersex channel...
15:09:23 <Noldo> most people aren't really here anyway
15:09:38 <Smoovious> even the ones that are here aren't really here
15:09:44 <Smoovious> where is 'here' here anyways?
15:09:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is wrong word order, Noldo
15:09:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> most peole here aren't real anyway
15:10:37 <Smoovious> real people here aren't most anyway?
15:11:23 <matt4> oops...my mistake
15:11:28 <Belugas> maybe some have a real life that tends to keep them away from that window from time to time ?
15:11:35 <Belugas> i fall into that category, anyway
15:11:47 <Smoovious> real life?! blasphemy!
15:12:05 <Belugas> no. it pays the bills and it allows to dev
15:12:07 <Belugas> from time to time
15:12:50 <Smoovious> just an escape
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15:16:07 <Noldo> Eddi|zuHause3: :D
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15:24:15 <simon444> this is a cybersex channel
15:24:17 <simon444> w00t
15:24:27 <simon444> I am a 12 year old girl
15:25:01 <Smoovious> wouldn't suprise me... except for the girl part
15:32:10 <TheMask96> hmm... 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 ;)
15:32:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> conspiracy!
15:32:34 <Priski> busted.
15:33:01 <alex_> lol.
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15:43:24 <simon444> wow that was great
15:43:59 <simon444> didn't know so many of you leave so close to me
15:44:15 <simon444> many = one chick and one guy
15:46:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10686 /trunk/src/ (tile.cpp tunnel_map.cpp):
15:46:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1058]: determining whether there is a tunnel going under the lowered
15:46:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: area is only needed in two directions instead of all four, so take the
15:46:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: directions (one for each axis) to the nearest border (along the given axis).
15:46:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Furthermore GetTileZ did much more than absolutely necessary.
15:47:28 <simon444> of2fs is great game
15:48:43 <Digitalfox_Desktop> Didn't openttd.notice channel show also commits??
15:49:03 <Rubidium> Digitalfox_Desktop: it should, but DorpsGek is kinda failing
15:49:18 <Smoovious> CIA-1 isn't in there for some reason
15:49:24 <Digitalfox_Desktop> ah ok... :)
15:49:38 <Rubidium> CIA-1 sucks, it slow and fails much more often than DorpsGek has
15:50:29 <Digitalfox_Desktop> Whgo is the owner of CIA-1 ?
15:50:33 <Digitalfox_Desktop> *Who
15:50:53 <Rubidium> some third party
15:51:30 <Digitalfox_Desktop> And openttd dev team has some kind of agreement to use it?
15:51:32 <simon444> peter1138, your bot
15:51:41 <simon444> i love google
15:51:46 <Digitalfox_Desktop> lol
15:52:20 <Rubidium> Digitalfox_Desktop: cia.navi.cx
15:52:30 <Digitalfox_Desktop> ok
15:55:01 <orudge> Is the nightly server down, or is my ISP/network playing up?
15:55:19 <orudge> Hmm, can't access it from Yoda
15:55:22 <orudge> so I'd guess the former
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15:56:16 <Rubidium> orudge: nightly.openttd.org?
15:56:44 <orudge> yes
15:56:46 <Rubidium> that seems to be having connection trouble
15:56:55 <orudge> my traceroute runs out somewhere in Hungary
15:57:10 <Rubidium> that's correct
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15:57:48 <SpComb> a-hu?
16:02:05 <Wezz6400> same here, can't access it, traceroute gets stuck in hungary
16:03:04 <Noldo> 160.114.120.78 ?
16:03:50 <Wezz6400> yes
16:04:00 <Wezz6400> that's is the last hop that resolves
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16:04:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> and how far is miham away from his servers?
16:04:42 <Rubidium> well, not very close (don't know how far though)
16:05:19 <simon888> nooooo I doubled in age!
16:05:41 <SpComb> up with massive pl
16:06:01 <simon888> at least it is legal to turn on the camera now
16:06:03 <Digitalfox_Desktop> nightly.ttdpatch.net seems down also
16:06:15 <simon888> too bad she left
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16:17:37 <Priski> hmm did DorpsGek bot say anything on notice channel?
16:17:53 <Rubidium> it didn't, but it should
16:18:50 <Priski> good, eh I mean bad
16:19:38 <Priski> just thought that I did something wrong with my /ignore command :)
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16:32:09 <simon888> cya going to have some more hardcore action
16:32:20 <simon888> for the next few hours at least
16:33:12 <Wolf01> hello
16:33:31 <ln-> buongiorno
16:33:33 <simon888> Wolf01, hello welcome to the open cybersex channel
16:34:04 <Wolf01> eh, i was thinking about it when i read your words
16:34:40 <Ammler> hmm, hardcore?
16:34:50 <simon888> well f2f
16:36:22 <simon888> okay panties on my head
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16:37:04 <Sacro> simon888: wtf?
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16:37:33 <simon888> Sacro, don't know yet
16:37:39 <Wolf01> you talk about sex and sacro popups
16:37:50 <Smoovious> sounds about right
16:37:51 <simon888> lol
16:38:05 <simon888> Sacro, maybe tribbing
16:38:28 <Wolf01> sacro reacts only on basic instincts... sex, violence, food
16:38:40 <Sacro> Wolf01: ah yes, tis nearly tea time
16:38:46 <Wolf01> see
16:39:01 <Smoovious> and the "Whooooo!" sound when a new vehicle comes out
16:39:10 <simon888> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:39:25 <simon888> (C) 2007, Viacom
16:40:15 <simon888> okay I need to get going
16:40:19 <simon888> any more comments?
16:40:39 <simon888> tiphat: put lipstick around your nipples
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16:46:55 <AntB> is there a problem with the Nightly download? FireFox is saying its taking too long to respond
16:47:04 <AntB> the download bit, not the page
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16:48:13 <Smoovious> yes there is
16:48:41 <AntB> meh... there isn't another link is there?
16:48:59 <Smoovious> dunno
16:50:57 <orudge> No, there isn't, as far as I'm aware.
16:52:12 * AntB swears at the server
16:53:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can checkout svn and compile yourself...
16:54:32 <AntB> I don't have Visual Studio,
16:54:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can use "buildottd", search the forum
16:54:54 <AntB> and anytime i compile my own sources they die a slow and painful death
16:55:12 * AntB forgot about that
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17:07:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10687 /trunk/src/tile.cpp: -Fix (r10686): subversion does not like it when you change code when you are typing the commit message.
17:07:56 <Rubidium> as long as the nightly server is down no new nightlies are made anyways
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17:18:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10688 /trunk/src/newgrf_commons.h: -Cleanup: coding style cleanups missed in the last few cleanups.
17:19:30 <Mucht_> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/294 <- what an interesting request
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17:23:36 <simon444> hi
17:23:51 <simon444> some moron just comes up to my computer and starts using it
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17:24:06 <simon444> they messed with my files
17:24:37 <simon444> I come back with IRC closed, my VM shut down, and desktop picture changed
17:24:47 <simon444> that guy is such a moron
17:25:01 <Rubidium> sure it was that guy and not a backdoor?
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17:25:15 <Rubidium> ok, the person using the backdoor is a moron
17:25:20 <KUDr> :) backdoor knownas 'moron'
17:25:39 *** Belugas is now known as moron
17:25:42 <moron> it was me!!
17:25:54 <Sacro> doesn't suprise me
17:25:57 *** moron is now known as Belugas
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17:26:20 <KUDr> hehe: "Belugas is now known as moron"
17:26:27 <Rubidium> :O a moron with ops
17:26:29 <KUDr> from now on...
17:26:39 <rav> ok..
17:26:41 <simon444> fuck he used my slashdot account
17:26:45 <simon444> for trolling
17:26:54 <simon444> I never had any comments modded down or troll
17:28:09 <simon444> SHIT HE FUCKING LOGGED INTO MY GMAIL ACCOUNT
17:28:19 <SpComb> a bored, knowledgeable moron?
17:28:28 <SpComb> or perhaps maliscious
17:28:36 <rav> ohh
17:28:40 <rav> change your passwords :)
17:29:00 <simon444> will do
17:29:20 <SpComb> and lock your computer when leaving it in an untrusted environment
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17:54:23 <skidd13> TrueBrain: Have you had time to look at the new performance meter patch?
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18:21:03 <matt4> hi all, i have a quick question regarding the nightlies
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18:21:47 <Rubidium> lol ;)
18:22:03 <Prof_Frink> He's right, it was quick.
18:22:27 <Rubidium> I kinda missed the "question regarding the nightlies" part
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18:29:17 <rav> ello again
18:33:30 <matt4> is this the place to ask for some advice regarding openttd?
18:33:36 <rav> sure
18:33:59 <Belugas> hope you'll stay long enough to ask this time ^_^
18:34:13 <rav> belugas: why are you a moron btw? :)
18:34:25 <matt4> sorry i was having some trouble with internet
18:35:21 <matt4> anyways, i read somewhere but i cant find it the fact that i can run the stable version in parallel with the nightly version......is that true? i couldnt find it in the forums the how to
18:35:41 <Belugas> i'm having a frivolous mood right now ;)
18:35:51 <rav> just copy the files from the stable version
18:36:10 <rav> and download the nightly, extract the files from the nightly archive over the copied stable
18:36:13 <rav> and run openttd.exe :)
18:36:55 <Belugas> but if you want to run both simultaneously, you'd better have two distinct folders
18:37:20 <rav> belugas: how do I add a button to the vehicle gui? :)
18:37:29 <rav> I dont really understand the code around the widgets
18:38:51 <rav> { WWT_PUSHIMGBTN, RESIZE_LRB, 14, 232, 249, 134, 145, 0x0, STR_NULL },
18:38:54 <rav> that's what Ive got now
18:40:08 <Belugas> each row of the widget array is a widget by itself
18:40:14 <Belugas> look in window.h,
18:40:17 <rav> k
18:40:27 <Belugas> there is the declaratuion of the widget struct
18:41:04 <Belugas> after resize_lrb, you'll se the left right top bottom of each one
18:41:06 <rav> I've found it :)
18:41:13 <Belugas> plus some data stuff
18:41:28 <rav> x1, x2, y1, y2 right?
18:41:29 <Belugas> you'll have to imlpement your own action on WE_CLICK for that widget
18:41:46 <Belugas> i think yes
18:41:49 <Belugas> don't remember exactly
18:42:01 <rav> Im trying to add a function to 'follow' a vehicle
18:42:19 <rav> Ive found the code for centering the screen, and what I need to get the x and y for a vehicle
18:43:07 <skidd13> Dont forget to put the new button in the window-widget enum or you might have strange experiences.
18:43:16 <rav> err :p
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18:53:17 <simon444> matt4, what os?
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19:01:03 <matt4> sorry what? im using xp
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19:03:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10689 /trunk/src/macros.h: -Documentation [FS#1057]: lots of function documentation written by Progman.
19:04:31 <simon444> matt4, okay then just download it
19:04:41 <simon444> matt4, there is no need to install it
19:04:57 <simon444> matt4, just extract it to a folder in your personal space
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19:05:13 <simon444> copy over the needed files to the data folder
19:05:39 <simon444> and then double click openttd.exe to start playing
19:05:44 <simon444> ---
19:05:46 <simon444> In Soviet Russia, the government controls the commerce.
19:05:48 <simon444> LOL
19:05:56 <Smoovious> they have commerce now?
19:06:10 <simon444> heh
19:06:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10690 /trunk/src/ (15 files): -Codechange: use the enum that describes all callback IDs in favor of "just" using an untyped integer.
19:07:12 <matt4> simon 444 thanks a lot i will give it a try.
19:07:55 <simon444> matt4, I take donations. I am current unemployed. :D
19:08:56 *** MUcht has quit IRC
19:09:01 <matt4> im a university student so i kinda feel your pain, no job and owing some 20K
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19:20:15 <simon444> lol
19:20:33 <simon444> he left without donating :(
19:21:50 <Rubidium> I guess you do not want his 20K loan as donation
19:25:08 <Belugas> skidd13, nice FS1078. But, as a personnal opinion, the enums should be more explicite TWW is kinda ... short :)
19:25:24 <Belugas> TRAINVIEW_something...
19:25:30 <Belugas> dunno, just an obseration
19:25:34 <Belugas> observation
19:26:06 <simon444> Rubidium, yes I do
19:26:30 <simon444> Rubidium, as long as he pays it off with no finance problems for me
19:26:37 <skidd13> It was a short job aside the explanations to rav
19:26:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10691 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Codechange [FS#509]: simplify GetTransportedGoodsIncome to make it more obvious and less hidden what actually happens. Based on a patch by rfalke.
19:27:07 <Rubidium> simon444: I meant the obligations of the loan itself, not the money it brings
19:27:18 <skidd13> Belugas: I should I post an edited version?
19:27:23 <simon444> Rubidium, and I didn't
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19:29:00 <Belugas> ithink so, yes. Unless the other devs think it's too much.
19:29:17 <Belugas> by the way, really nice idea to coment the widget array with the widget enum :)
19:29:47 <simon444> Ready to MUcht
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19:30:37 <skidd13> Belugas: :%s /TWW_/TRAIN_VIEW_WIDGET_/g ?
19:31:13 <Rubidium> do I spot a little vi speak there?
19:31:18 <skidd13> yup
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19:31:21 <simon444> emacs!
19:31:32 <simon444> imacs!
19:31:39 <skidd13> VIM rulez
19:31:48 <Belugas> TRAINVIEW_WIDGET ?
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19:31:57 <simon444> acme!
19:31:58 <Belugas> TRAIN_VEIW_?
19:32:12 <Belugas> TRAIN_VIEWWIDGET?
19:32:19 <Belugas> TRAIN_VIEWGUI?
19:32:27 <Belugas> TRAIN_VIEWWDG?
19:32:31 <Belugas> duno
19:32:51 <Rubidium> Belugas: just keep it at TVW_ and explain it in the enum
19:32:59 <simon444> A Company Makes Everything
19:33:11 <Belugas> that too...
19:33:11 <simon444> WOOT w00t wooooooooot
19:33:55 <skidd13> I stick to TRAINVIEW_WIDGET_
19:34:32 <skidd13> Sure large but vim is fast in replacing stuff ;)
19:34:51 <Belugas> i like ti
19:34:52 <Belugas> iot
19:34:53 <Belugas> it
19:34:55 <Belugas> grrrrr
19:35:21 <skidd13> Buy a new keybord or a pair of new hands ;)
19:36:43 <Belugas> or put the coffee mug away...
19:37:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10692 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix (r10691): those good old days that LT_NORMAL was still called LT_NORMAL :)
19:38:30 <Belugas> lol :D
19:39:24 <skidd13> I asked a few hours earlier: What about the updated version of the performance meter?
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19:40:49 <Belugas> don't know.. not following that patch, to be honest
19:43:05 <Rubidium> as I said before, you should get the time information from the video backends
19:43:12 <skidd13> I did
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19:44:04 <skidd13> For SDL anyway
19:44:21 <Rubidium> where? You're hardcoding all video backends with ifdefs into performance.cpp?
19:45:14 <skidd13> What have you in mind?
19:45:27 <Rubidium> (this->m_active && timed) ? true : false <- is it me or is that if superfluous
19:45:41 <skidd13> Oh true
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19:46:24 <Rubidium> http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/this.diff <- something like that
19:46:49 <Wezz6400> dang so many dutch ppl involved in openttd
19:48:02 <Wezz6400> makes one proud ;()]
19:48:10 <Rubidium> it's a country build on transportation
19:48:42 <Wezz6400> hmm yeah I guess, but does that explain it?
19:50:47 <Rippsy> w00t
19:50:52 <Rippsy> half a billion profit in on year :D
19:50:58 <Wezz6400> damn
19:51:05 <peter1138> inflation, eh?
19:51:13 <Wezz6400> oh right
19:51:15 <Rippsy> yea, inflation is on :P but its still impressive :)
19:51:16 <Prof_Frink> Rippsy: Only half?
19:51:24 <Rippsy> Prof_Frink, its not a single player map
19:51:26 <Rippsy> there's a LOT of competition
19:51:30 <Wezz6400> I got to 10 million or so but that was without inflation (euros)
19:51:46 * Prof_Frink had a TTDPatch game that was utterly ludicrous
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19:52:20 <Prof_Frink> Annual profit overflowed around the tenth of January
19:54:40 <Rippsy> lol??
19:54:44 <Rippsy> what the hell were you doing
19:54:50 <Rippsy> oh and were not using any aircraft :)
19:54:51 <Rippsy> its all trains
19:55:14 <Prof_Frink> Rippsy: This was mostly trains too
19:55:22 <Prof_Frink> DBXL iirc
20:00:43 <simon444> ever played a super coal game?
20:00:54 <simon444> that can make billions per month
20:07:09 <Wolf01> 'night
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20:15:47 <skidd13> Rubidium: Any soultion about the dedicated video backend?
20:15:57 <skidd13> soultion -> solution
20:17:04 <simon444> invade another project?
20:17:58 <Rubidium> dedicated has timing too
20:26:08 <simon444> la LA La LA lA la
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20:33:26 <Timwi> Hi
20:33:32 <Timwi> Who was the author of YAPF again? :)
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20:34:54 <Belugas> YAD
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20:35:04 <Belugas> Yet Another Developper :)
20:35:06 <Timwi> :-)
20:35:10 <Belugas> KUDr, to be exact
20:35:14 <Timwi> OK, thanks
20:35:32 <Timwi> Which one of the two??? :-)))
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20:36:27 <Belugas> lol
20:36:44 <Belugas> the last one, as the first one does not exits ;)
20:37:16 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: Well, the first is more of a metasyntatic developer
20:37:26 <Timwi> Hehe
20:37:32 <Timwi> You geeks
20:37:40 <simon444> Krazy United Dickhead russians?
20:37:44 * Belugas goes metaphysic
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20:38:46 <Prof_Frink> Timwi: This is IRC
20:39:22 <Eddi|zuHause> the answer is either "both" or "42"
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20:40:13 <Belugas> THE ANSWER MY FRIEND
20:40:24 <Belugas> IS BLOWING IN THE WIND
20:41:22 <simon444> THERE IS NO WIND
20:41:36 <simon444> THE WIND HASN'T BLOWN FOR YEARS
20:41:57 <Timwi> OH BRING BACK BY BONNIE TO ME!
20:41:59 <Timwi> argh
20:42:01 <Timwi> s/BY/MY/
20:42:24 <simon444> NOOO THE DOG IS LOOSE
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20:42:52 <simon444> IN SOVIET RUSSIA, THE LOOSE IS DOG
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20:51:03 <Smoovious> there is no dog
20:51:28 <Phazorx> "there is no spoon"
20:51:33 <colle> only do or do not
20:54:16 <simon444> IN SOVIET RUSSIA, A FORK IS A SPOON
20:54:53 <Prof_Frink> In #openttd, people can use lowercase.
20:55:01 <Timwi> In Soviet Russia, no spoon is THERE. :)
20:55:22 <Belugas> and in #openttd, a joke is good as long as it does not go on forever
20:55:42 <Timwi> But in Soviet Russian, forever go on JOKES!
20:55:48 <Timwi> Argh :) Russia :)
20:59:27 <simon444> IN SOVIET RUSSIA, THE JOKES ARE ON YOU
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21:00:53 <simon444> IN SOVIET RUSSIA, helb LEAVES #openttd
21:01:09 <skidd13> Rubidium: Better now?
21:01:27 <Belugas> simon444, last notice
21:01:36 <helb> Soviet Russia? Blah...
21:01:42 <Belugas> next time, it's the kick
21:02:50 <Timwi> Gosh you're evil, Belugas
21:03:17 <Belugas> no... just that there is a time for everything
21:03:28 <Belugas> and when it should stop, it must stop
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21:47:42 <simon444> hello
21:48:54 <ln-> does this network support +q or something like that?
21:50:30 <simon444> so what does simon do in here?
21:50:42 <simon444> I am a friend of simon
21:51:07 *** peter1138 sets mode: +q *!*@*.fi
21:51:16 *** peter1138 sets mode: -q *!*@*.fi
21:51:21 <peter1138> quite possibly
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21:52:40 <Smoovious> and to answer your question, simon444 annoys the hell out of us
21:53:29 <simon444> oh, you want me to smack him for you?
21:54:32 <Smoovious> a few dozen times, please... with a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick
21:55:07 <SpComb> wait, what's this +q thing?
21:55:12 <Prof_Frink> Smoovious: Pour me one while you're at it
21:55:20 <Prof_Frink> SpComb: server-side ignore
21:55:30 <SpComb> how... quiet
21:55:35 <Prof_Frink> Like a reverse +v
21:56:00 <SpComb> except it takes a hostmask, and lets peter1138 discriminate against the finnish
21:56:33 <simon444> as long as you pay for the large gold brick
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22:01:44 <Turulo> hi
22:01:56 <Turulo> can anyone help me to change ingame font size?
22:02:24 <Turulo> because changing small_size medium_size large_size isnt working...
22:03:11 <DaleStan> Turulo: Those won't work if you're still using the built-in font.
22:03:37 <Turulo> ok it has sense now :P
22:03:50 <Turulo> there isnt any way to change size from default fonts?
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22:04:49 <DaleStan> Nope. That's a sprite-based font. Can't be resized.
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22:05:13 <Turulo> ok gonna try adding some tt fonts, thanks
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22:24:05 <legoscia> i've started hacking a Russian town name generator, using the Cyrillic alphabet. is that interesting to anyone?
22:24:46 <simon444> yes the CIA
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22:32:57 <Rubidium> legoscia: to the Russians it is (I guess)
22:33:05 <glx> newgrf action F is the prefered way to do it now
22:33:37 <Rubidium> though the preferred way for new town generators is, as glx said, the newgrf manner of specifying a town name generator
22:34:11 <legoscia> oh, is that documented in the wiki?
22:34:13 <Rubidium> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ActionF
22:34:38 <glx> it's not a hard newgrf stuff
22:34:44 <Rubidium> will only work in the nightlies though
22:35:29 <Wezz6400> legoscia there is so many languages available, I guess as long as someone is willing to make it and maintain it it get's in, as there's bound to be people who'd like that language to be in there
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22:36:15 <izhirahider> glx, is that really the preferred way?
22:36:36 <glx> since action F is supported by openttd it is
22:36:49 <izhirahider> this looks highly complicated
22:36:54 <izhirahider> more even that hacking the code :/
22:37:43 <legoscia> hm... would action F allow stuff like adjectives agreeing by gender?
22:40:14 <izhirahider> glx, is there any generator already "translated" to this ActionF stuff?
22:40:38 <glx> no but I should try to do that :)
22:40:40 <izhirahider> looking at that page really scared me :)
22:41:44 <izhirahider> We definitely have to talk more on this, but later on, since I don't have here the finished code
22:42:30 <izhirahider> But from what I can understand, it's not easy to make combinations to generate new words
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