IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2007-07-22
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01:39:36 <Rippsy> Interesting .. there is NO way to stop people griefing oneway road
01:40:02 <Rippsy> even if you block it all off with your own signs, and buy out all the town road, disable all entrances from a competitor, he cna just build rail across it and remove all the one way signaling
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03:45:39 <kombi> hi! Anyone got the file: TTD Registry Editor ver 1.3 know where to get it?
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05:17:51 <TheJosh> opps, i wanted #openttdcoop
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09:45:12 <Zuu> hmmm, which .h file did I now touched by mistake? vim should have a blinking warning screen if you try to save a h-file to save you minutes of compiling time... :)
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09:47:20 <Smoovious> I think it was that one >points< over there...
09:52:21 <Prof_Frink> nonono, it was *that* one, over *there*
09:52:22 <Zuu> Hmm.. maby I need to reconfigure with --enable-debug to make gdb work... another few minutes of compileing :)
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09:58:07 * Zuu miss his fast PC which only take about a minute to compile everytihng.
10:02:30 <Zuu> opposed to 8:51 minutes on my 5 year old laptop... yay :)
10:03:43 <Prof_Frink> Nothing wrong with 5-year-old laptops
10:03:51 <Prof_Frink> Well, except the hinge is broken
10:04:03 <Prof_Frink> And I have to turn of the backlight manually
10:04:10 <Zuu> except verry long time to compile openttd...
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10:17:36 <Tefad> 5 minutes is very long?
10:18:23 <Tefad> real men compile ottd on 68k ; )
10:20:17 <Zuu> Mine is celeron (aka p3) 1.33GHz with 256MB ram (the other 512 broke in March)
10:20:42 <Tefad> ouch, luckily my laptop has 256+256 sticks in it
10:21:09 <Tefad> most of my electronics are handmedowns
10:21:24 <Tefad> or thirft purchases (rummage sales, thrift stores.. craigslist)
10:21:44 <Tefad> my 2nd head was free.. 19" Trinitron
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10:32:58 * Zuu enjoys C strings and segfaults...
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11:57:12 <TimGroe2> For those who are interested, I am now offering one free domain for a random project that is added in the next 7 days on http://sharesource.org/
11:58:46 <TimGroe2> Thought I would enlighten you all with a freebie :)
12:01:37 <TimGroe2> No, just the $8 gift certificate :P
12:01:58 <TimGroe2> I wish it was lifetime free, but hey, I am an open source developer.
12:03:09 <KUDr_mac> poor people don't have money and time to make open source
12:03:30 <Smoovious> depends on why they're poor
12:04:47 <Smoovious> like... are they the working poor, or the waiting-for-my-{disability|welfare}-check poor...
12:05:45 <TimGroe2> well, just keep my offer in mind :)
12:06:03 <ln-> when a train is moving on the rails, how often is its speed and location synchronized with the server?
12:06:37 <Smoovious> wow... they just showed some video about the flooding over in the UK... unreal...
12:06:42 <KUDr> so by other words we will get $8 for a new domain if we create project called "random project" on your web. Correct?
12:07:51 <TimGroe2> So what I am going to do is offer anyone who commits legitimate code into a new ShareSource code from Sunday, 22 July till Sunday, 29 July.
12:08:18 <KUDr> so the name should be "random project" or "your project" ?
12:08:36 <TimGroe2> it must be a real project :D
12:09:04 <Smoovious> what if we wanna name it "our project" instead of "your project",.. we wouldn't be eligible?
12:10:06 <KUDr> too strict rules i guess
12:10:11 <Smoovious> how could it be 'we'... aren't you ineligible? shouldn't i t be "y'all"?
12:10:24 <KUDr> you do a typo and you lost $8
12:10:51 <Smoovious> actually, y'all is southern
12:11:11 <hylje> TimGroe2: out of curiosity, what does that service build upon?
12:11:20 <Smoovious> I'm in the great lakes... its youz up here
12:11:23 <TimGroe2> hylje: It is my own project :)
12:11:25 <izhirahider> TimGroe2, just a suggestion, if you want to succeed, you should offer some new features like mercurial or git, since it's not offered anywhere else and they're started to become popular among developers :)
12:11:38 <hylje> TimGroe2: i mean technologies
12:11:43 <TimGroe2> izhirahider: Funny you might say that, hg is comming in 7 days :)
12:11:50 <hylje> TimGroe2: i dont think you did it ground up off assembly :p
12:11:52 <TimGroe2> finishing off my custom viewer :D
12:12:10 <TimGroe2> hylje: Apache2, PHP, Perl, C++ and MySQL
12:12:24 <TimGroe2> and Subversion, Hg for VCS'
12:12:32 <TimGroe2> Mailman for mailing list
12:13:38 <hylje> how much does it depend on itself and its pieces
12:14:02 <TimGroe2> It is all built of modules
12:14:18 <TimGroe2> for example, you can disable Mailman, or disable Subversion, or disable web hosting etc :)
12:15:07 <TimGroe2> Very nice code inside :P
12:16:23 <izhirahider> TimGroe2, good luck on the project, I might be interested in looking into it in the future
12:16:37 <TimGroe2> thanks izhirahider :)
12:16:52 <TimGroe2> Make sure it's in the next 7 days :P
12:20:37 <KUDr> heh hurry up for a small chnce $8
12:21:41 <TimGroe2> KUDr: you laugh now :P
12:22:56 <KUDr> i think that reliability and feares are more important
12:24:01 <Zuu> Ah.. yay, I feel my pointer aritmetics is comming back.. after months of only Delphi programming. (which allows you to do memory management, but is not neccessary to the same extent)
12:24:23 <KUDr> nice: It took roughly 0.0015909671783447 seconds to generate this page
12:25:31 <TimGroe2> well, it is + ~0.0001 :)
12:25:39 <TimGroe2> so it's not exact :D
12:26:14 <KUDr> TimGroe2: will you offer also virtual hosts like "projectname.sharesource.org" ?
12:27:04 <KUDr> so, really, good luck with it
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12:54:57 <peter1138> 13:03 < ln-> when a train is moving on the rails, how often is its speed and location synchronized with the server?
12:55:41 <hylje> can a train move anywhere else than on *the* rails
12:56:44 <peter1138> only inside a tunnel
12:59:09 <peter1138> though you can see them ;)
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13:17:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10649 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Fix (r9962): autoscroll (pointer near screen edge) didn't work
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13:57:03 <Tlustoch> I was just playing online without pass and some loser joined me and destroyed all my airports
13:57:13 <Tlustoch> Why do such people exist?
13:57:32 <Smoovious> to remind you to set your password
13:57:48 <Tlustoch> If I set password no one can join me.
13:58:36 <Gekko[PDA]> this guy, supreme logic.
14:15:58 <Zuu> Now my code can translate key-codes to names and back again... Time to give some more keys to choos from than meta-keys and space and space and space.. :) xD
14:16:58 <Rippsy> why is the top row of the keyboard just not dedicated to the building panel ;P
14:17:19 <Rippsy> or as in railroad tycoon the numpad was directional track
14:18:08 <Zuu> When time comes, you will be able to do that... but that is when it is done, not before.. ;)
14:18:51 <Zuu> Or buy a kinesis and hardware remap your keyboard layout. :)
14:19:01 <Zuu> I wont sponsor you though :p
14:19:05 <Rippsy> i just map the keys to my Gkeys on my logitec g15 :)
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14:26:19 <Tlustoch> now network game failed because of some assertion
14:26:25 <Tlustoch> when new player joined
14:30:02 <Zuu> I guess keys like WKC_LEFT should have a localized string accosiated to it. But does a-z,A-Z,0-9 need that?? I guess in most languages it would just be a "a" or a "Z" or a "3" etc..
14:31:07 <Zuu> Hmm.. though, it would not hurt much to have it, just some extra bytes here and there... :)
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14:36:09 <peter1138> are you using TrueBrain's code for that?
14:36:40 <Zuu> peter1138: Have TrueBrain written code far that?
14:37:01 <Zuu> btw, what do you exactly mean with "that"?
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14:42:57 <peter1138> "laptop battery 12 hours, 12 minutes remaining"
14:42:59 <peter1138> i think that's a lie :p
14:43:11 <Rippsy> can i have your fusion powered battery :P
14:45:24 <Zuu> peter1138: So he have begun work with that too?
14:45:25 <Zuu> The answer on your question is: no
14:58:32 <Zuu2> Looks like all TrueBrain have done is that he have written a .hpp file. But I can be wrong though.. but that was the only thing I found when I searched that git thing.
15:01:24 <Zuu2> well two hpp-files it seams..
15:03:41 <Zuu2> Gota talk to him when he appears :)
15:06:49 <Zuu> now i gota make some food :)
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16:48:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: orudge * r10650 /branches/0.5/os2.c: [0.5] -Fix: Fix chdir problem with open/save dialog on OS/2 (Paul Smedley)
17:06:37 <Wolf01> ufff... i thought it was easy to draw roads :(
17:07:32 <Wolf01> or maybe is only pebkac :/
17:21:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: orudge * r10651 /trunk/src/os2.cpp: -Fix: Fix chdir problem with open/save dialog on OS/2 (Paul Smedley)
17:22:09 <Progman> os/2? it still exists?
17:23:01 <Noldo> when someone puts it into internet it will exist for ever
17:23:22 <orudge> take a look at, say, www.os2world.com
17:23:46 <orudge> hmmm, $3000 worth of bountiesr
17:25:19 <orudge> aww, they upgraded their forums
17:25:25 <orudge> they were using UB2K for years
17:25:28 <orudge> it was the first forum package I used on my site
17:25:34 <orudge> before I moved to phpBB
17:27:20 <Wolf01> [19:23:15] <Noldo> when someone puts it into internet it will exist for ever
17:27:21 <Wolf01> are you sure? i can destroy one thing i know and it won't exist anymore :D
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18:13:59 <Liquid> Hello, What was the name of the contest that thwart used to put on for encryption called?
18:24:28 <Ailure> would be funny if openTTD was like simcity 2000
18:25:12 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> well.. that would be ..openSimCity2000 Then *lol*
18:25:23 <Ailure> heh I wasn't totally serious about it
18:25:32 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> noticed that :D
18:25:44 <Ailure> even if it would encourage players to not put the airport in the middle of a city
18:26:09 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> well i'm putting airports on the border of the citys tho..
18:26:18 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> and just transfer passengers by bus *lol*
18:27:01 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> sec.. gotta take a look on my servers ^^
18:27:25 <Ailure> would be intresting if there was civil transporting <<
18:27:42 <Ailure> I mean personal, so stations wouldn't have to be in walking range :P
18:28:50 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> guess no one likes a 2050-2150 scenario.. anyone knows why? >_>
18:29:06 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> i like them better than 1950 to 2050 since there is maglev *lol*
18:31:25 <Wolf01> [20:28:50] <Lost-Hope|Thardas> guess no one likes a 2050-2150 scenario.. anyone knows why? >_>
18:31:25 <Wolf01> maybe because is impossible to start a game because of inflation?
18:31:38 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> uhm no i put that off..
18:32:09 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> i guess.. *lol*
18:32:36 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> well i'm thinking of making the games more short anyways.
18:32:44 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> like 50 years...
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18:39:17 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> hmm well should be better now to have 1 long game from 1950 to 2050 and one from 1975 to 2025
18:39:44 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> but i gotta figure out how to prevent a company from getting a password to set up a coop server..
18:42:42 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> humm so i gotta hope that no one is goin to set a pwd?
18:46:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> how is that supposed to work anyway? "i leave my car wide open with keys inside and a sign 'use this if you need it'"
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18:46:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's gonna work exactly once...
18:47:13 <Ailure> is the 3D cinema in TTRS
18:47:19 <Ailure> supposed to have a hole in it's roof? ;)
18:49:07 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> well eddi.. so basically you gotta stand next to your car and give out the key after you put a gps in your car to make sure it cant be stolen..
18:49:25 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> meaning you gotta administrate your server at least at the beginning of the game
18:50:21 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> but i still dunno how the original servers of openttdcoop do that..
18:50:47 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> if they do.. there must be a way i'm goin to find out :)
18:51:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> i believe they put a password theirselves...
18:52:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> and they are a pretty close community
18:52:33 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> well you can even follow the text messages they send ingame by joining the coop channel
18:52:46 <Lost-Hope|Thardas> guess everyone watches for another there..
18:53:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's the work of autopilot
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20:03:30 <Wolf01> just a little netsplit
20:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, i don't like cheese
20:06:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i have these weird system lockups for a few seconds
20:10:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> it seems to be loosely related to harddisk/s-ata controller
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21:10:56 <UnderBuilder> a question: can be removed the landscape type selector from the main 'openttd' window since it is included on the landscape window?
21:11:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10652 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/station_cmd.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Initialise variable to eliminate warning.
21:21:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> UnderBuilder: I think the decision was to keep them to preserve the look of the opening screen
21:21:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's characteristic for ttd
21:22:14 <UnderBuilder> landscape window -> it should be new map window
21:23:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, i figured that :p
21:25:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10653 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (64 files in 7 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Sync: with trunk r10602-10651
21:28:57 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause2, you can always disable them and keep them as eyecandy... as they are totally useless there
21:30:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> "I" have no problem with them :p
21:30:14 * Prof_Frink still thinks the three settings windows should be combined
21:31:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> Prof_Frink: you're free to post your patch to bugs.openttd.org
21:31:27 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause2: post-patch depends: know-how-to-code
21:32:14 <Prof_Frink> I normally just torture peter1138 until stuff happens
21:33:05 <Wolf01> i usually avoid to torture peter1138, 'cause i have bad memories :(
21:33:43 <Wolf01> i prod Belugas instead ;)
21:33:48 <Prof_Frink> Wolf01: You're doing him wrong.
21:34:25 <Wolf01> eh everybody have his preferred dev :)
21:35:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't remember having picked a "favourite"
21:36:23 <ln-> i'll pick tron and his phrases "NOT FUNNY" and "END OF DISCUSSION"
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21:43:34 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Don't swear
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22:10:22 <UnderBuilder> then if you don't want to remove it from the main window then remove it from the new map one
22:18:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, because that's where they belong...
22:21:06 <rav> well, Im off to bed, ttyl
22:29:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10654 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (saveload.cpp station_cmd.cpp): [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Can now load and save newgrf airports. Graphics correctly reloaded after save.
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23:43:10 <Digitalfox> Is there any newgrf coder present?
23:43:59 <Ammlller> Digitalfox, maybe you have more luck at #tycoon @ quakenet
23:44:22 <Digitalfox> i know :) But it's a simple question
23:44:46 <Ammlller> pls, don't ask me....
23:45:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> and especially don't ask metaquestions
23:45:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> they will get you exactly nowhere
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23:46:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> attack of the clones?
23:46:34 <Digitalfox_Desktop> No just using virtual OS, for using multiple networks
23:47:13 <Digitalfox_Desktop> You know VMWare with multi irc clients..
23:48:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, i always buy a new car when i want to go to a place i never was before
23:49:46 <Digitalfox_Desktop> Not that.. But i have Chat Zilla configures in different virtual OS, and so i was using one with just openttd configured, and now i'm using an virtual Os with Openttd channel and tycoon..
23:50:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> it still sounds incredibly stupid...
23:51:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> "i built a new house because i wanted different coloured wallpaper"
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23:53:09 <Digitalfox_Desktop> No.. I have my main Windows XP just for games, clena with no extra stuff witch could slow down my experience in games.. And 2 virtual OS witch i use on VMWare, one for programs and another for testing porpuses.. I was using the OS games, witch just has my irc client configured for openttd channel.. And i now i'm on the programs OS witch has openttd and tycoon configured..
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