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01:09:47 <ln-> how to count a level curve when the gradient is known?
01:10:23 <ln-> those two are perpendicular, but that's not enough knowledge.
01:11:47 <ln-> or is it..
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01:22:49 <Sacro> ln-: its 1/gradient
01:22:57 <Sacro> no, -1/gradient
01:28:11 <ln-> i counted a cross product of the gradient and (0,0,1) because the gradient happened to have only i and j components. dunno how good idea was that.
01:32:47 <Sacro> hmm
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09:52:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9618 /branches/noai/src/ (squirrel.cpp squirrel.hpp squirrel_class.hpp): [NoAI] -Add: allow an extra param for PreRegister to register classes as extends of others
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10:35:16 <Maedhros> does anyone know why you can't change the ending year from the patch gui?
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11:03:13 <HMage> you should be able once you've started the game
11:03:23 <HMage> dunno why is that way
11:10:45 <Ailure> bah
11:10:52 <Ailure> I wish you could share tracks D:
11:11:41 <Ailure> would be a intresting way of earning money too
11:11:55 <Ailure> having majority of income coming from letting other companies using your railways
11:16:59 <peter1138> heh
11:21:05 <rane> i don't see that happening in ottd
11:21:54 <Maedhros> why not? all it takes is someone with sufficient time, interest and patience to write it...
11:21:58 <rane> having majority of income coming from sharing your tracks that is
11:23:35 <peter1138> it's already written
11:25:20 <Maedhros> in the subsidiaries patch, or somewhere else?
11:27:36 <peter1138> yes
11:32:00 <peter1138> all it takes is someone with sufficient time, interest and patience to update and clean it up
11:32:17 <Maedhros> heh
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11:53:41 * HMage would like to see just the 'sharing tracks' part of that patch
12:01:44 <peter1138> you know what to do :)
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13:19:39 <Belugas> hello
13:22:06 <Maedhros> hey Belugas
13:23:42 <Belugas> Mister High Priest :) Hello
13:23:52 <Maedhros> hehe
13:23:54 <hylje> wat
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14:25:57 <ln-> analog or analogue?
14:26:30 <Maedhros> analogue
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15:59:11 <peter1138> ANAL ogue
16:02:34 <ln-> that was quite unavoidable
16:03:00 <ln-> but which one would you use?
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16:09:33 <Belugas> analogue
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16:21:42 <peter1138> yes
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17:15:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belugas * r9619 /trunk/src/table/ (industry_land.h town_land.h): -Documentation: Comments on drawing arrays of houses and industries
17:29:44 <Frostregen> doh
17:30:11 <Frostregen> NS patch setting flag was removed?
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17:32:15 <Frostregen> one question, if a new patch setting is saved into a savegame, is it still loadable with an older version?
17:32:40 <Rubidium> no
17:33:47 <Frostregen> thx
17:35:16 <Frostregen> then i'll use SLF_SAVE_NO instead of NS...
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17:39:05 <Wolf01> hello
17:40:29 <Frostregen> hi wolf
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18:04:03 <hylje> i love how parallel python's favicon is two pythons in parallel
18:07:44 <peter1138> i bet that took a lot of thought
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18:24:36 <Wolf01> i love when the pc boots and talk in korean without video image
18:25:13 <Wolf01> or it's chinese
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18:25:26 <Wolf01> but always nothing i could understand
18:25:42 <Wolf01> hellolman!
18:25:59 <lolman> Ello Wolf01
18:26:21 <Sacro> oh neos
18:26:38 <lolman> neos? I'm the one now? :P
18:26:48 <Sacro> hope not
18:26:52 <lolman> As do I
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19:17:51 <valhallasw> hurray for c-evilness
19:18:25 <peter1138> who?
19:18:42 <valhallasw> me :P
19:18:57 <valhallasw> I converted my c-ish program to a more OOP-like style
19:19:15 <valhallasw> eg a class with an array instead of throwing a pointer to the function
19:19:57 <hylje> :o
19:20:36 <valhallasw> recursor(int *array, int *array2, int height, int width, int x, int y, int depth, bool closed)
19:20:40 <valhallasw> to
19:20:42 <valhallasw> knightrider::recursor(int x, int y, int depth, bool closed)
19:20:54 <valhallasw> and I probably should fix that bool closed to my class
19:22:13 <hylje> redundant properties killed? :p
19:22:21 <hylje> context is a fun thing to have
19:22:33 <valhallasw> moved to the class actually
19:24:28 <valhallasw> (this is from my program to solve the problem of knights on a chessboard)
19:24:55 <valhallasw> eg. you plase a knight and try to get to all cells of the board without coming to one twice
19:25:26 <hylje> exactly, you got some context
19:25:32 <valhallasw> ;)
19:32:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9620 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: apply cargo translation table to newstation variables 0x60..0x65
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19:40:41 <Wolf01> newcargoes?
19:41:12 <peter1138> lies
19:41:19 <peter1138> i no nufing bout dem
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19:42:51 <hylje> lies
19:43:04 <lolman> :o
19:43:25 <peter1138> oh
19:46:20 <Sacro> newcargoes?
19:47:14 <lolman> oh noes
19:47:23 <Belugas> that was only newstation stuff...
19:47:36 <Rubidium> and who cares about them?
19:47:46 <hylje> what
19:48:06 <peter1138> NOBODY
19:48:15 <peter1138> nobody cared once it was implemented...
19:51:00 <Sacro> peter1138! newindustries!
19:51:06 <peter1138> lies
19:51:12 <peter1138> someone else is working on that, anyway
19:51:37 <hylje> we care
19:51:59 <hylje> we can't imagine how dull games without newstations would be
19:53:07 <Ailure> heh
19:53:16 <Ailure> it's funn y
19:53:21 <Ailure> I hardly use the old station now
19:53:24 <Ailure> it looks out of place
19:53:24 <Ailure> xD
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19:56:21 <Belugas> and what about newhouses??
19:56:46 <Rubidium> I've not seen anybody using them in 0.5.0 ;)
19:57:02 <Belugas> hehe
19:58:00 <hylje> newhouses are kind of fun
19:58:09 <Ailure> yeah
19:58:18 <Ailure> I like the variety that TTRS3 adds
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19:59:38 <Ailure> Can't wait until newIndustries is implented :)
20:00:02 <hylje> neweverything
20:00:56 <Ailure> [21:03] <jolie-> Hello..foryou.. AN INVITATION TO THE TRUTH click please www.harunyahya.com (choose language please)
20:01:00 <Ailure> third time I'm getting this
20:01:01 * Rubidium assigns Ailure to fix the documentation on the wiki till newindustries is implemented
20:01:08 <Ailure> Is it something with my name?
20:01:30 <Ailure> I should add a quick mIRCscript that automatically responds with something really really riude
20:01:48 <Ailure> Rubidum: D:
20:02:31 <hylje> D:
20:02:33 <glx> Ailure: don't worry I got it 3 times too, it's just spam
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20:03:44 <Ailure> well still
20:04:00 <Ailure> that site that it links to makes pisses me off as well
20:04:09 <hylje> so you actually clicked on it?
20:04:11 <Ailure> yes
20:04:11 <hylje> enjoy your aids.
20:04:25 <Ailure> I have noscript ;)
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20:08:05 <Ailure> removes any scripts and such that appears on a page
20:08:18 <Ailure> most browser exploits are related to javascript or plugins of any kind
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20:09:19 <Phil_> I'm just going to leap straight intom asking questions, since that's why I came here... In OpenTTD, as it stands at the moment is there any way to: (a) get the old Steam trains (such as the Jinty) that were present in the original TT - I see work is allocated to remodel them but what about the old models? or is this nor possible
20:09:36 <Phil_> and (b) are double decker busses available at all (like they were in ttdpatch)
20:09:51 <Phil_> can't seem to find the answers on the wiki so I thought I'd ask here.
20:10:26 <peter1138> a) find a newgrf with them (i guess) b) if the vehicles are in ttd then they're in ottd
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20:13:26 <Phil_> hmm
20:14:03 <Phil_> is there a repository of vehicle packs anywhere, and how easy are they to integrate with ottd ?
20:14:20 <peter1138> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ is a good place to start looking
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20:14:31 <Sionide> quite easy to integrate
20:14:34 <Sionide> last time i tried anyway
20:14:48 <Phil_> I never really used ottd before but a few years ago was very into ttdpatch
20:15:00 <Phil_> it's similar but all a bit different now
20:15:33 <Sionide> ahh true... it's essentially two different ways of tackling the same problem
20:15:46 <Sionide> i could never get ttdpatch to run and ottd was fine, so here i am.
20:16:36 <peter1138> heh, ttd + dosbox ;p
20:16:40 <peter1138> bit slow on my pc though
20:20:16 <Phil_> hmm, there doesn't seem to be a set for the old classic steam engines
20:20:21 <Phil_> strange.
20:20:34 <Phil_> do you know the ones I mean ?
20:20:54 <Phil_> the 4-5 additional steam trains you get pre-1935
20:21:05 <Phil_> that featured in origintal TT (not TTD)
20:22:09 <Phil_> Jinty, Stanier 'Crab', Gresley D49, Gresley A3, Bullied Q1
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21:00:42 <peter1138> Phil_: http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/details.php?do=details&id=76
21:00:47 <peter1138> might be what you want
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21:06:16 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=31459 peter1138! you have a competitor!
21:07:07 <peter1138> my number's better
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21:18:28 <Phil_> ooh
21:18:31 <Phil_> that is nice
21:18:45 <Phil_> though it adds things that I do want, I fear it would remove things I want to keep
21:18:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9621 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: implement newgrf house property 1E (cargo types)
21:18:53 <peter1138> *nod*
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21:20:35 <Wolf01> me too
21:21:02 <peter1138> Wolf01: just because you have 01...
21:21:05 <Wolf01> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=241636 yeah, that's cool
21:21:28 <peter1138> whatever happened to the lego set?
21:21:33 <peter1138> i mean "brickland"
21:22:36 <Phil_> Does anyone know if that TTO conversion set peter1138 just linked will remove any existing vehicles ? or just add new ones ? It's exactly what I want but I don't want to lose things
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21:30:51 <Wolf01> 'night
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21:36:19 <Ailure> hmm
21:38:33 <Sacro> mmh
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23:26:56 <Sacro> oh noes
23:27:27 <Sacro> :o
23:27:51 <Sacro> G25 for £157
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