IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2007-04-03
(this day is the first day of recording for this channel)
20:24:20 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd
20:24:28 <dihedral> that's it - that is the right attitude
20:24:37 <TrueBrain> Ah, welcome DorpsGek
20:24:43 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound)
20:26:40 <dihedral> TrueBrain: I am just 11000 << what happend to the "we"?
20:27:11 <TrueBrain> dihedral: you just assumed I ment who ever was at this end, while in fact I ment a group of people within this channel which rather stays anonymous
20:27:22 <TrueBrain> and there is no reasno that they should all be in the same binary age
20:27:33 <dihedral> no - i assumed you had some other problem
20:27:41 <TrueBrain> I only have solutions
20:27:55 <knome> I only have problems - TrueBrain, will you marry me?
20:28:03 *** Rubidium sets mode: +o DorpsGek
20:28:23 <dihedral> ok - that's it - i may officially anounce not being the person with some gender issues
20:28:34 <knome> we would've been a perfect couple
20:28:50 <dihedral> that is just sick man
20:29:01 *** knome was kicked by DorpsGek (TrueBrain)
20:29:18 <peter1138> you kick the chicks :(
20:29:36 <dihedral> i kicked the only wirdo
20:29:37 <peter1138> at least, i assume knome is a chick, dressed like that
20:29:57 <knome> well ok, i'll try to behave
20:30:36 <Rubidium> dihedral: there is only one real Weirdo and you haven't kicked him ;)
20:31:00 <dihedral> i never said i kicked anybody :-P
20:31:28 <knome> even the best of us make mistakes
20:31:29 <dihedral> it was meant to say "he"
20:31:43 <dihedral> at least you consider me "best"
20:32:12 <knome> well i didn't say that :)
20:32:49 <peter1138> oh damn, i forgot to test my chan_sccp mod :/
20:33:37 <TrueBrain> @kick knome go sleeping
20:33:38 *** knome was kicked by DorpsGek (go sleeping)
20:33:42 <dihedral> btw - just in case you devs have not read some stuff
20:33:51 <Sacro|Laptop> @kick Sacro|Laptop hmmm
20:33:57 <dihedral> 0.5.1RC2 seg faults if the res is below 10,10
20:34:06 <TrueBrain> @kick Sacro|Laptop hmmm
20:34:07 *** Sacro|Laptop was kicked by DorpsGek (hmmm)
20:34:15 <TrueBrain> kicking Sacro is always a pleasure
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20:34:23 <TrueBrain> knome: you said you wanted to go to sleep
20:34:23 <peter1138> @kick DorpsGek hurr
20:34:26 <TrueBrain> I have no problems with that :)
20:34:32 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Error: me is not in #openttd.
20:34:34 *** DorpsGek sets mode: +o peter1138
20:34:39 <knome> so is that a reason to kick me out of the chan?
20:34:41 <Sacro|Laptop> @op Sacro|Laptop
20:34:46 * Sacro|Laptop wants to be op'd
20:34:48 <TrueBrain> knome: for me it is :)
20:35:00 <TrueBrain> NOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo
20:35:10 <TrueBrain> you are the least part of female interaction we have here :p :p
20:35:13 <dihedral> would be awsome if openttd would even take values below 10,10 or at least use a lowest available value
20:35:25 <dihedral> without seg faulting as soon as a client connects
20:35:38 <Rubidium> dihedral: it's already fixed...
20:35:43 <knome> well i don't the point of kicking people out of a chan without a reason
20:35:52 <TrueBrain> knome: your problem :p
20:35:53 <Rubidium> just not backported to branches/0.5
20:36:08 <dihedral> well - it was fixed in 0.5.0 final
20:36:13 <knome> that's just some selfish moderation
20:36:15 <Rubidium> and nobody has had time to do some release
20:36:18 <peter1138> 21:32 < dihedral> would be awsome if openttd would even take values below 10,10 or at least use a lowest available value
20:36:35 <peter1138> for a proper fix, you want the dedicated server to NOT DRAW ANYTHING
20:36:37 <Rubidium> dihedral: it still was buggy in 0.5.0
20:36:56 <Rubidium> only for some reason nobody has ever noticed it
20:37:05 <dihedral> i never had an issue with it
20:37:16 <dihedral> 0.5.0 final ran for me nonstop
20:37:29 <dihedral> until i updated to rc2 today
20:37:40 <peter1138> yeah, we couldn't have that in a x.x.0
20:38:24 <Rubidium> dihedral: the fact that it didn't crash in 0.5.0 is basically 'magic'
20:38:45 <TrueBrain> and without luck, no life
20:38:48 <dihedral> can you add some magic to 0.5.1
20:39:02 <Belugas> i'm tired... everytime i see a new line in here, i've got a song popping up in my head...
20:39:22 <Rubidium> Belugas seems to be running Windows 9x
20:40:26 <Belugas> TrueBrain and me have a long history :)
20:41:13 <dihedral> dont interrupt peter1138
20:41:15 <peter1138> i wonder if Pocket Symphony is any good
20:41:20 <peter1138> yes, don't interrupt me
20:41:59 <Belugas> the Nineth one ain't bad, peter1138 :)
20:42:04 <dihedral> i thought for a second i had to crouch or something
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20:43:13 <peter1138> strange you are ell
20:43:25 <dihedral> i shall hit the rack guys
20:43:39 <peter1138> you'll mess up the servers in it
20:44:04 <dihedral> anyway - i can feel gravety with my eye lids
20:44:11 <peter1138> not SAC, because she's cool
20:44:29 <MeusH> excuse me, where is STR_RAIL_VEHICLE_NOT_AVAILABLE used in-game?
20:44:46 <dihedral> the answer lies in your question
20:44:58 <dihedral> sorry - after tired comes silly
20:45:08 <Belugas> that sounds interesting , Air stuff
20:45:19 <peter1138> MeusH: when (trying) to build a rail vehicle
20:45:21 <dihedral> my word - i even messed that one up
20:45:26 <MeusH> I don't have acces to the code and I'm unable to verify it myself
20:45:48 <dihedral> oh - no - it was the right way around...
20:46:05 <MeusH> peter1138, so this is visible when somehow a vehicle is visible and selectable (and should not)?
20:46:18 <peter1138> something like that
20:46:26 <peter1138> its main cause is 1) hacked client
20:46:40 <peter1138> and 2) trying to clone a vehicle that has 'expired'
20:47:15 <MeusH> the translations are fixed now. I hope my absence didn't cause problems. Did it?
20:47:38 <MeusH> my house was being painted
20:47:45 <MeusH> I was told it would take 3 days
20:48:01 <MeusH> and it took over 10 days
20:48:26 <MeusH> and the painters (or whatever they're called) say they will finish after easter
20:48:46 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: i received countless complaints about your absence.. next time please tell me at least 2 years in advance of any absence which is longer than 1 day :D
20:48:46 <MeusH> but my lovely internet connection is back, and I can live happily :)
20:49:02 <peter1138> OR YOU'RE SACKED, SON
20:49:13 <MeusH> anyway, how's OpenTTD? I see RC2 is close :)
20:49:36 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: OpenTTD 0.5.1-RC2
20:49:37 <MiHaMiX> Friday, March 23rd 2007 23:45 GMT - posted by Rubidium
20:49:53 <Rubidium> MiHaMiX: now you spoiled my joke...
20:50:05 <MiHaMiX> Rubidium: which one? :-((
20:50:18 <Rubidium> "RC2 is close and getting further away by the minute"
20:50:24 <MiHaMiX> Rubidium: :DDDDDDDDDD
20:51:26 <Belugas> #Going home Late Last night
20:51:34 <Belugas> #Suddenly I had a fright
20:52:11 <MiHaMiX> dihedral: have a nice dream :)
20:53:00 <dihedral> good night... dont let the bed bugs bite...
20:53:08 <Ailure> I love this winamp plugin
20:53:15 <Ailure> it plays midi music like a old FM synth
20:53:48 <dihedral> that is why i buy high qality music :-)
20:53:56 <dihedral> to listen to it in an old style :-P
20:54:16 <Ailure> some midi songs actually sound better under a old FM synth :p
20:54:45 <dihedral> well - and midi is not the most recent format anyway
20:54:51 <dihedral> so it does make sense :-D
20:55:15 <dihedral> i need to get to bed
21:01:58 <HMage> well, midi is still used in professional audio field :)
21:04:18 <peter1138> i 'need' to get a midi keyboard
21:05:36 <Ailure> but I either want realistic instrument
21:05:45 <Ailure> everything inbetween sounds kinda strange :p
21:06:04 <Ailure> I know that some pros do have soundfonts that sounds like real instruments
21:06:11 * peter1138 has no room for a piano :/
21:07:03 <HMage> Ailure: you're putting into the meaning of 'midi' that you hear the soundbanks from standard windows installation, which is (C) 1996 Roland Corporation, and stores 128 instruments in little tiny 3 Mb.
21:08:16 <HMage> midi in professional audio is used to drive either sample-based instruments, or instruments synthesized in real-time. A typical piano that sounds OK for me weighs about 2.5Gb in samples.
21:08:54 <peter1138> where do i get those samples :D
21:09:04 <ln-> and a collection of such instruments costs several thousand euros
21:09:05 <HMage> buy native instruments akoustik piano :D
21:10:31 <HMage> in case you wonder, I'm reacting (a bit pointlessly) to a dihedral's statement that midi is not recent format so it should sound bad (FM synth).
21:10:32 <peter1138> then i need the keyboard :/
21:10:56 <peter1138> HMage: yes. i would've, if i could be bothered :)
21:11:00 <Ailure> well old ones at least
21:11:22 <HMage> yeah, Access Virus FM synth still costs 25000$ :)
21:11:39 <HMage> maybe less, maybe more, I don't remember exactly
21:12:10 <peter1138> hmm, €299 for "akoustik piano"
21:12:35 <HMage> nah, sorry, my mistake, access virus doesn't use FM
21:12:45 <HMage> it uses other oscillator-based methods
21:15:29 <Rubidium> peter1138: is that with or without the use of glue?
21:17:14 <Ailure> glue made with the right han
21:18:14 <Ailure> the aircraft goes so atrocitly slow
21:18:25 <Ailure> when I go back to 0.5.0 after playing nightlies
21:29:29 <Brianetta> Ailure: My server used to be known as "Brianetta's Nightly"
21:30:01 <Ailure> Yeah, I knew you used to run a nightly server
21:30:06 <Ailure> but that was before i got into multiplayer <<
21:33:00 <Sacro> and it was the best nightly server ever
21:43:53 <Ailure> I might attempt making one, although 'upgrades' probably would be done semi-manually
21:44:03 <Ailure> so there won't be a upgrade for a comment added somewhere :p
21:46:06 <Rubidium> Ailure: why not upgrade whatever changes were made? Makes it much clearer for the end-users what version to use
21:51:45 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9554 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Documentation: add documentation to some map accessors.
22:10:51 <Brianetta> It drew complaints for som e
22:11:09 <Brianetta> "Why do I have to download a new nightly just for some Lithuanian texts?"
22:11:25 <Brianetta> but it's either a nightly server, or it isn't.
22:11:59 <Rubidium> "Because person Y likes to play with Lithuanina texts" ;)
22:12:26 <Brianetta> So, every evening at 8 o'clock I ran my script, which told me whether there was a new nightly, and if so, updated my SVN checkout, compiled it, and informed me. I'd then close the game, and reload.
22:12:29 <Ailure> there's not much effort to overwrite the latest binaries
22:14:04 <Ailure> Well I mostly want a server with TTRS3 and UKRS :)
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23:54:48 <Digitalfox[Home]> Is there a way in config file, to make Openttd use more RAM and less CPU??
23:56:36 <Digitalfox[Home]> And disabling sound and music makes a big difrence in CPU used?
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