IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-04-19
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00:17:44 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the newgrf can provide these names, but only one per industry type
00:26:04 <supermop> i was thinking a newgrf that provides generic names, like for around a town
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12:22:24 <Flygon> I don't think these cargo ships are every gonna profit.
12:22:30 <Flygon> Running for distances too long. >_>"
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13:57:01 <Wolf01> Yeah, I'm losing at endless space at ultra-easy :(
13:57:16 <Wolf01> BUT! Lego orders just arrived
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14:55:33 <SpComb> __ln__: TIL that things like `chown foo .*` will also affect ..
15:31:37 <andythenorth> how many bugs are left?
15:32:43 <Wolf01> Bugs are like slimes, when you hit them they split
15:37:51 <peter1138> keep forgetting it's wednesday already
15:37:58 <peter1138> mountain biking night :D
15:42:53 * andythenorth hasn’t ever owned a proper mountain bike
15:43:19 <andythenorth> is it a orange or an orange or orange?
15:44:10 <Wolf01> Mine was white and pink -.-
15:44:20 <andythenorth> mine is orange, but it’s not a mountain bike
15:45:20 <Arveen> Wednesday night is 1/2 price burger night at a local mexican restaurant
15:48:33 <andythenorth> mine doesn’t have whitewall tyres though
15:48:38 <andythenorth> and I cut the bars down
15:48:49 <andythenorth> and took the wheel reflectors off
15:49:59 <peter1138> that's my weekend club ride bike
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15:50:25 <peter1138> my commuting bike is a mercian light tourer
15:50:43 <peter1138> i clearly need more bikers
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16:13:45 <Alberth> so, I was vandalizing the newgrf specs :p
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16:39:56 <supermop> i rode one of those for 40km on gravel once, does that make it a mountain bike?
16:40:28 <supermop> mine has bullhorn bars and a slightly smaller chainring though
16:41:24 <supermop> also mine does not have the rear brake
16:46:49 <supermop> coke oven looks good
16:47:14 <peter1138> must be cyclocross...
16:53:03 <andythenorth> @seen supercheese
16:53:03 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: supercheese was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <Supercheese> looks like pixels
16:53:53 <andythenorth> supermop: I so need to bookmark Bernd and Hilla Becher
16:54:16 <supermop> the lime kiln book is basically FIRS porn
16:54:52 <supermop> peter1138: no drop bars on mine but i still had track tyres on it
16:55:04 <supermop> i didn't know the trail was going to be gravel
16:56:01 <andythenorth> supermop: any particular book best?
16:56:30 <supermop> only ones ive looked through are a coal tipple one and the lime kiln one
16:56:58 <supermop> moma has a lot of their work in permanent collection, so i've seen it mostly there
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16:59:42 <supermop> in case you want to spend the next year drawing different styles of lime kilns for every 20 year period from 1700 to 1960
17:09:57 <andythenorth> I just bought Industrial Landscapes
17:10:03 <andythenorth> hope that’s not £58 wasted :P
17:10:08 <andythenorth> most expensive book I ever bought
17:13:13 <supermop> welcome to the world of 'serious' art books
17:13:26 <supermop> all insanely expensive
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17:14:39 <supermop> then you have to buy expensive shelves to put them on
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17:44:09 <supermop> then start buying books about the designer of the shelves
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19:50:41 <Wolf01|Phone> Pub talking about football and shit...
19:51:17 <Eddi|zuHause> so you live in a place where pubs talk?
19:53:27 <Wolf01|Phone> I'm already bored, and I still need to eat and get high on ginger ale as always
19:53:58 <Eddi|zuHause> <also insert joke here about the ambiguity between talking about shit and actually shitting>
19:56:49 <Wolf01|Phone> Ok now they are talking about Lapo Elkann
19:58:49 <quiznilo> I was so happy, I thought I had found a bug finally
19:59:07 <quiznilo> user error... no bug
20:00:42 <Wolf01|Phone> Ok, about to get food
20:01:11 <Eddi|zuHause> so which part were you most happy about it? that there was a bug? that you found it? or that it wasn't a bug after all?
20:08:51 <Wolf01|Phone> It's quiet, where is cat?
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20:12:13 <Wolf01|Phone> Mmh kaaay, they want me on the other app, this one will disconnect when loses focus, so I'll come back from home
20:15:38 <Eddi|zuHause> "disconnect when loses focus" sounds like a terrible design decision
20:21:45 <supermop> sounds like an insane design decision
20:22:10 <supermop> even if you wanted to use your phone as an irc only terminal
20:35:49 <andythenorth> frosch123: “Station names: Literal | Esoteric | OpenTTD Defaults” o_O
20:36:45 <andythenorth> I’d rather do it on a cb though, not an action 7 or whatever it is that puts a conditional around an action 0
20:37:51 <quiznilo> Eddi|zuHause: since I can't contribute because I refuse to learn C++ the best I can do is find bugs
20:38:26 <Eddi|zuHause> since when is knowing c++ a requirement? :p
20:38:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i barely know any c++, but i have contributed the craziest things
20:39:15 <andythenorth> make crazy great again
20:39:44 <andythenorth> "It looks like the rubidium hits an invisible wall."
20:41:42 <quiznilo> finding bugs is very valuable... difficult with older, active projects like ottd though
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21:05:48 <andythenorth> would have been faster to draw :)
21:06:17 <frosch123> cover the whole industry with smoke effects?
21:07:48 <andythenorth> what station name for Coke Oven?
21:08:23 <andythenorth> [random selection of two words, using a cb that can concatenate strings :P]
21:13:44 <frosch123> when i check the dictionary half of the related terms are fish
21:15:09 <thegreatpl> hmmm... what is the best place to post a bug with openttd?
21:16:47 <thegreatpl> GSCompanyMode is not working. Always get ERR_PRECONDITION_FAILED when I try to do anything.
21:17:10 <frosch123> ask on the support forum then
21:18:06 <frosch123> but ERR_PRECONDITION_FAILED generaly means that the condition lister under "precondition" in the api doc is not meet
21:19:14 <thegreatpl> as far as I can tell, they are met.
21:19:35 <thegreatpl> And I get it for both building airports, and leveling terrain.
21:20:11 <frosch123> but you can also check existing scripts which make use of gscompanymode
21:22:01 <thegreatpl> None of them from what I guess. Its used for building things under a company. All the current GS are for Goals it seems.
21:22:36 <thegreatpl> still spends money though.
21:22:42 <frosch123> "the split scenario gs" is known to do landscaping
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21:25:40 <andythenorth> although I am responsible for some of those (bad extents I think)...
21:25:55 <andythenorth> in this case, if some twat is going to change the wind direction on smoke, I really can’t help :P
21:27:33 <frosch123> yeah, the wind direction does not match your shading
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21:30:43 <andythenorth> maybe I should withdraw all my grfs Because 32BPP
21:33:05 <frosch123> you could set your grf as 8bpp via action14, and then add 32bpp sprites with random pixel garbage
21:33:36 <frosch123> that way ottd will use 8bpp if only firs is active, but use the garbage if some other grf or baseset forces 32bpp
21:33:47 <andythenorth> is that better or worse than deleting all my forum posts, ever? o_O
21:33:53 <andythenorth> as vandalism goes
21:34:11 <frosch123> deleting is relative
21:34:26 <frosch123> you should look for something more creative than just 3 dots per post
21:34:41 <andythenorth> subtly rewrite every single one of them?
21:34:54 <andythenorth> replace every single one with content from V453000 posts?
21:35:10 <frosch123> possibly just swap the contents of posts
21:35:15 <frosch123> or some sentences between them
21:35:31 <andythenorth> ‘you can no longer edit this post'
21:35:59 * andythenorth probably won’t rage quite over 32bpp, eh :P
21:36:14 <frosch123> request a dump of the forum db, so you can branch your own version
21:36:44 <andythenorth> I’d need some kind of ransom / threat to make *rudge do it though
21:37:03 * andythenorth doesn’t want to be the grumpy old man
21:37:10 <andythenorth> just 32bpp seems a distraction
21:37:21 <andythenorth> and meanwhile GarryG keeps churning out more and more good stuff
21:37:27 <frosch123> usually threats go like "i will eat this kitten"
21:38:44 <andythenorth> harsh for the kitten
21:38:58 <frosch123> anyway, if we make the drawing multithreaded and add frame animation to all tiles, we no longer need the horitonal-extent restriction
21:39:20 <andythenorth> ‘just like that'
21:39:44 <frosch123> should i post in the suggestion forum?
21:39:46 <andythenorth> I suspect that those 22 words are deceptively simple sounding
21:40:45 <andythenorth> what problem does it solve? :D
21:41:30 <frosch123> it keeps clutter from the other forums
21:41:42 <frosch123> but ok, not posting also solves that
21:42:17 <LordAro> frosch123: don't be mean to kittens
21:42:50 <frosch123> what have they ever done for us?
21:47:14 * andythenorth goes back to animating coke
21:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause> so they defended us from evil killer robots?
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21:48:19 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> ‘you can no longer edit this post' <-- that's because someone once went back and replaced every single of his own posts with "..."
21:48:43 * andythenorth wonders who that was
21:48:55 <Eddi|zuHause> a person who shall not be named
21:49:08 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: read the whole backlog, not just parts
21:49:20 <frosch123> starting in 2007 at least
21:49:22 <andythenorth> it’s more fun if he picks random lines
21:49:42 <andythenorth> ach I have left my glasses...elsewhere
21:49:48 <andythenorth> drawing without them is fricking hard
21:54:38 <orudge`> andythenorth: ye what now?
21:55:22 <orudge`> I think I still have a backup of the database from when someone (SAC?) [...]'d all their posts. I intended to restore them, never quite got around to it though...
22:01:35 <supermop> andythenorth: love the earthen/brick oven
22:01:59 * andythenorth reading simutrans forums
22:05:07 <supermop> andythenorth: just buy a medium format camera and photograph industrial buildings in black and white
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22:53:35 <Wolf01> <Eddi|zuHause> "disconnect when loses focus" sounds like a terrible design decision <- that's what you get when you use free apps filled with ads
22:55:04 <andythenorth> what is action 0D?
22:55:09 <andythenorth> I can’t see it in newgrf docs
22:58:05 <supermop> andythenorth: that benzoil plant exterior is pretty great
22:59:09 <andythenorth> I liked the line drawing schematic
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23:01:40 <Wolf01> Welcome back, had a pleasing ride?
23:03:01 <peter1138> so no mud to clean off :p
23:04:14 <Wolf01> I got bored at pub instead, also too cold outside since it rained for the last 3 days and all the warmth gone away
23:09:15 <supermop> i would have hoped there would have been more italian bars than pubs in italy
23:09:48 <supermop> sounds like midtown manhattan
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23:13:03 <supermop> more irish pubs than 'american' bars
23:13:17 <supermop> although there it is also 'irish'
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