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00:59:48 <Wolf01> 'night
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11:38:11 <Wolf01> Miao
11:44:55 <Arveen> Mrow
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13:50:42 <dihedral> hi
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14:48:10 <LordAro> Snail: fix yo connection
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14:54:10 <peter1138> connection is fine
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14:54:54 <LordAro> hmm, true
14:58:43 <Wolf01> Some wakeup-standby cycle
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15:35:34 <supermop> yo
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15:49:36 <Wolf01> It's epidemic?
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16:05:32 <Alberth> hi hi
16:05:45 <Wolf01> o/
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16:10:21 <Alberth> no "Coke" cargo in the global newgrf cargo table yet :O
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16:11:57 <peter1138> Have we got unlimited cargo types yet?
16:12:19 <peter1138> (And rail types, obviously)
16:12:35 <Alberth> one rail type for each cargo :p
16:12:38 <peter1138> yes
16:12:50 <peter1138> it's faster because you then don't need pbs
16:12:54 <peter1138> which is horribly slow
16:13:38 <Alberth> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes#Cargo_Labels it seems we only have 26**4 cargo types
16:13:58 <Alberth> hmm, bit more if you also count _
16:14:16 <Alberth> 26*27**3
16:14:19 <peter1138> :)
16:15:08 <Alberth> we could use those identifiers as rail type
16:15:27 <peter1138> GEAR
16:15:28 <peter1138> haha
16:15:30 <Alberth> we then immediately have ELRL and RAIL cargoes!
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19:21:13 <Wolf01> o/
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20:05:39 <andythenorth> station names strike again :P
20:05:45 <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1185572#p1185572
20:08:16 <Alberth> :)
20:08:29 <Alberth> great, all these logical station names :p
20:08:58 <Alberth> I was more worried about post of garry, about the coke cargo, it's not at the newgrfspecs page
20:09:13 <Alberth> should be added I guess, are there others as well?
20:09:53 <andythenorth> probably
20:09:55 <andythenorth> I can’t do it
20:11:16 <Alberth> I know
20:11:41 <Alberth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html seems the list, is there a table of cargo class stuff too?
20:12:00 <Alberth> or is that not relevant?
20:12:12 <andythenorth> deliberately omitted ;)
20:12:27 <andythenorth> causes inappropriate behaviour
20:12:40 <Alberth> looks relevant in the cargo table
20:12:50 <Alberth> it's in the source code, I guess
20:13:20 <Alberth> what's easiest, generated nml code?
20:13:55 * andythenorth looking
20:14:38 <andythenorth> possibly generated nml
20:14:55 <andythenorth> or http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/show/src/cargos
20:15:11 <andythenorth> ^ more clicks in the src view
20:15:14 <andythenorth> :p
20:15:36 <Alberth> one editor with lots of opened files :)
20:15:59 <Alberth> ok, will fix that
20:16:31 <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1179816#p1179816
20:16:39 <andythenorth> and https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1185575#p1185575
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20:28:53 <Alberth> I have seen BOOM https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes#Cargo_Labels so that seems added already
20:29:08 <Alberth> I'll just compare lists, and see what's different
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20:49:38 <andythenorth> thanks :)
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21:06:24 <Alberth> ha, "mail" is a class of its own :)
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21:45:24 <Alberth> andy https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/index.php?title=CargoTypes&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=3757&oldid=3744 if you want all the details :)
21:52:39 <frosch123> luckily there is no table for 4 letter greetings
21:53:04 <frosch123> though numberphile has a video about numbers written with 4 letters
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21:55:55 <Alberth> :)
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22:07:19 <andythenorth> frosch123: Alberth you were right about the ground tiles :P http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8423/coke_oven_5.png
22:09:30 <frosch123> wasn't it longer yesterday?
22:09:33 <frosch123> 5x3?
22:09:58 <andythenorth> yes, I added an alternative layout to be sure I wasn’t drawing something inflexible
22:10:50 <Alberth> oh, that picture. I saw that this afternoon, and wondered whether the coal stack shouldn't be behind the buildings
22:11:08 <andythenorth> it could be yes
22:11:16 <andythenorth> probably will be in some layouts
22:11:45 <Alberth> also, one writes QLME with a q :p
22:11:49 <andythenorth> :)
22:11:52 <andythenorth> thanks for the wiki edit
22:12:00 <andythenorth> I have tried registering a new user, but eh
22:12:05 <andythenorth> still won’t log me in
22:12:12 <andythenorth> maybe I’m banned by IP or something
22:13:08 <Alberth> np
22:13:35 <Alberth> most annoying part is that you can't automate it :p
22:13:49 <andythenorth> :P
22:14:45 <andythenorth> I guess I should reply to Jacob about station names
22:14:56 <Alberth> but it happens not that often
22:15:24 <frosch123> andythenorth: ask about new station names :)
22:15:27 <Alberth> link to a previous reply ? :p not so nice, though
22:17:39 <andythenorth> maybe it should be a parameter
22:17:43 <Alberth> nn
22:17:48 <andythenorth> bye Alberth :)
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22:17:56 <andythenorth> maybe most of FIRS should be parameterised? o_O
22:18:09 <frosch123> i meant to suggest a parameter, but considered it would scare you :p
22:18:39 <andythenorth> there are a lot of parameter candidates currently
22:18:51 <andythenorth> when they’re strictly orthogonal it’s….ok I guess
22:19:39 * andythenorth counts
22:19:44 <andythenorth> 3 is not ‘a lot’ :P
22:21:38 <frosch123> it's not possible to make parameters change other parameters
22:21:54 <frosch123> so you cannot add a parameter to alter the name of the "extreme" economy
22:24:19 <andythenorth> :P
22:24:26 <andythenorth> I guess we should be grateful for that :)
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22:50:33 <andythenorth> station names: literal | associate | openttd defaults
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23:34:22 <supermop> literal?
23:36:55 <Eddi|zuHause> as in "<x> factory", "<x> hotel", ...
23:37:25 <Eddi|zuHause> as opposed to the silly "<x> whatever street"
23:37:53 <Eddi|zuHause> which might make more sense if there was more variation
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23:46:56 <supermop> can we have neither that nor defaults? like town name new grfs?