IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2026-08-05
            
00:19:02 <peter1138> Heh, title game follow vehicle mode is a bit silly, as the menu covers it.
00:19:30 <peter1138> Hm, unless that's manual coordinates.
00:21:05 <belajalilija> cool that this game has evolved more i think in the past 2 years than the 10 that came before
00:23:00 <belajalilija> i hope that whatever is going right in all of yous lives that is giving you the energy to do this continues to go right
00:28:21 <belajalilija> i say 2 years, it could be 3, i mean whenever variants were added as thats when things seemed to really pick up
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01:20:08 <talltyler> The intro game can also anchor the corners (and edges IIRC) to a vehicle. Not that it’s much better.
01:20:28 <talltyler> I don’t think a title game with any sort of motion has won in a few years
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01:20:54 <talltyler> I am considering an extremely slow pan for next year’s entry (and am considering forgetting this idea well before then)
01:20:54 <reldred> time to alter the title menu further
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01:21:28 <reldred> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1534370724771532941/images.png?ex=6a73e198&is=6a729018&hm=fb4a91e0a6b963007b1b994d56a00069b16e948aa4bc11db9857ddfcfef58e29&
01:21:55 <belajalilija> i wanna try make an entry for next year
01:22:06 <reldred> why do I now wanna play openrct2, I always sucked at RCT
01:22:16 <talltyler> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1534370924625924186/image0.jpg?ex=6a73e1c7&is=6a729047&hm=56d13b4abac93d3addaa5f56733fcaa3baf38cc02e6790bfc3d1b1433da5a620&
01:22:16 <talltyler> <https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10671> 😛
01:22:18 <belajalilija> i'd slide in some subtle lgbt imagery because funny
01:22:18 <reldred> I dont have the patience for detailing
01:22:29 <belajalilija> reldred: its just a vibe
01:22:58 <belajalilija> just play six flags magic mountain and mess around
01:23:05 <belajalilija> its what i always did
01:23:09 <reldred> talltyler: Move play scenario and play heightmap to the middle so the left and right can be the same height/no. of options and merge it, yolo.
01:25:12 <talltyler> By mess around do you mean “drop the guests in water features and watch them drown”? 😛
01:25:25 <belajalilija> i mean
01:25:27 <belajalilija> i did that too
01:25:40 <belajalilija> but i mostly just added to the park that was there
01:26:58 <belajalilija> i tended to try and make some synchronised wooden rollercoasters in that sandy empty part of the park near the end of those 2 synced launch thingies
01:27:16 <belajalilija> and also make a gokarts in that general area too
01:28:34 <belajalilija> i'd usually demolish that big elevator where everyone got stuck too and make it into flowerbeds
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02:54:42 <mmtunligit> belajalilija: hmmm, can title games have multiple companies?
02:55:03 <mmtunligit> get a pink company a blue one and a white one and have the trains run in paralell
02:55:30 <mmtunligit> surely this will not result in *any* pitchforks
02:55:30 <belajalilija> mmtunligit: i mean you can just group recolour
02:55:37 <mmtunligit> belajalilija: oh yeahhhhhh
02:55:51 <belajalilija> mmtunligit: this is exactly what i was thinking
03:02:11 <emperorjake> Or have buses that are timetabled to queue in pride flag colours
03:03:29 <belajalilija> that'd work too
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04:49:18 <mnhebi> reldred: Play it in mp, it is fun
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06:18:17 <peter1138> Well.
06:18:35 <peter1138> Should be unsubtle.
06:29:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 opened pull request #15942: Codechange: Check costs instead of bank balance in marine and airport regression https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15942
06:57:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #15942: Codechange: Check costs instead of bank balance in marine and airport regression https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15942#pullrequestreview-4861794517
06:59:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #15919: Codechange: use ContiguousContainer for SlCopy and extract VarMemType https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15919#pullrequestreview-4861807487
07:11:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/4c17039be7ec95b8e9db9e0bb982b8b1d39060cb
07:11:57 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
07:31:33 <andythenorth_> well
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07:45:01 <LordAro> ooh, slop
07:47:13 <peter1138> What now
07:47:53 <andythenorth_> https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/04/aple-bug-bounty-limits-ai/
07:48:48 <andythenorth_> no-one is immune
07:48:49 <peter1138> aple
07:49:18 <andythenorth_> apfel
07:49:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15924: Add: Use LibSoxr for high quality sample-rate conversion https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15924
07:58:16 <peter1138> Hmm, NewGRF sounds are weird. You can only have one Action 11. What is an Action 0 for sounds meant to do with original sounds.
07:59:04 <peter1138> SoundEntry *sound = GetSound(first + _cur_gps.grffile->sound_offset - ORIGINAL_SAMPLE_COUNT);
08:00:00 <peter1138> If multiple NewGRFs have sound, this will allow you do fiddle about with sounds of the previous file?
08:00:33 <peter1138> To the specs?
08:01:12 <peter1138> > You cannot directly set the properties of IDs 0..48 that refer to TTD's original sounds, except by overriding these sounds using property 0A
08:01:16 <peter1138> So it should be prevented.
08:01:18 <andythenorth_> "so the specs" needs a gif
08:01:21 <andythenorth_> to *
08:01:30 <andythenorth_> when will irc be editable? :P
08:01:34 <andythenorth_> we need a new chat format
08:02:57 <peter1138> Just re-read what you have written before pressing enter.
08:04:16 <andythenorth_> sometimes I do, but the letters move around :P
08:10:26 <peter1138> Lysdexia.
08:55:45 <andythenorth_> More like overconfidence I think 😛
09:20:57 <peter1138> Okay, so more probability values?
09:21:45 <peter1138> Or just let act7/9 handle it...
09:23:12 <peter1138> Probably: we want a placement callback, so keep the single base probability, and then let the NewGRF further decide.
09:55:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15942: Codechange: Check costs instead of bank balance in marine and airport regression https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15942
09:55:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15919: Codechange: use ContiguousContainer for SlCopy and extract VarMemType https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15919
10:17:52 <peter1138> Bloat the game with arbitrary tile-metadata?
10:21:22 <peter1138> Oh, slop.
10:21:30 <LordAro> pretty printed json tile metadata
10:33:24 <peter1138> Unused memory is wasted memory...
10:36:35 <peter1138> Hmm, Jira comments are hidden way outside everyone's field of view.
10:54:38 <peter1138> > This value is only meaningful in the DOS version, where there are limited mixing channels.
10:54:53 <peter1138> I wonder how many mixing channels the Windows version has?
10:55:12 <peter1138> Because we have 8, which is still "limited".
11:42:03 <andythenorth_> well
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13:53:03 <andythenorth_> something something newgrfs
13:53:08 <andythenorth_> I should finish some
13:53:24 <peter1138> Trees?
13:58:08 <andythenorth_> is it a reverse acryonym? 👀
13:58:24 <andythenorth_> never finished a roadtypes grf
13:58:30 <andythenorth_> never finished nml stations grf
14:31:46 <_zephyris> Trees indeed
14:32:08 <_zephyris> What's next
14:32:11 <_zephyris> ?
14:33:20 <peter1138> > Trees Rather Earned Eye-candy Stuff
14:36:40 <LordAro> oh very good
15:28:51 <_zephyris> Do you need optimised vanilla tree tables?
15:29:26 <peter1138> I'll update my PR so that you can see how it's handled :)
15:29:32 <peter1138> (Later of course)
15:35:11 <_zephyris> Cool
16:11:29 <peter1138> > I honestly dislike most of them and prefer the Toyland one
16:11:30 <peter1138> Hah
17:00:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15897: Codechange: prefer functions over SaveLoad macros https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15897
17:37:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15943: Codechange: always quote strings in settings, removing the need for StrQ https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15943
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20:39:12 <andythenorth_> what's randomised starting company colour seeded from? 👀
20:39:22 <andythenorth_> I'm only getting grey, white, brown
20:39:28 <andythenorth_> but it might not be a large enough sample
20:41:53 <belajalilija> Getting even the same colour 3 times in a row isn’t statically unlikely
20:42:35 <belajalilija> So getting those 3 colours 10-20 times is quite possible
20:43:05 <belajalilija> It would be interesting to know though
20:48:11 <peter1138> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/ba209c8745f869e1d6f8ae9b1e93f4e94b4fbec9#diff-53305a8fc8880bbbfea433039871db3dd91f5ee9d97b582b15258f8d950b8938R511
20:48:32 <peter1138> Possibly that, I'm not sure the stable_sort is equivalent to the original code.
20:49:01 <peter1138> But what's an algorithm anyway.
20:50:02 <peter1138> Never mind, Colours vs index.
20:50:22 <peter1138> The the last three values off the _similar_colour array?
20:50:27 <peter1138> -The+But.
20:51:26 <peter1138> -f
20:51:42 <peter1138> > 09:02 <@peter1138> Just re-read what you have written before pressing enter.
20:54:37 <andythenorth_> oof I can only nearly read C++ :P
21:14:31 <peter1138> Same.
22:06:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] Rito13 opened pull request #437: Codefix: In error message `of` was used instead of `or` https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/437
22:15:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 approved pull request #437: Codefix: In error message `of` was used instead of `or` https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/437#pullrequestreview-4869263190
22:15:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 merged pull request #437: Codefix: In error message `of` was used instead of `or` https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/437
22:16:42 <_zephyris> Lol. I got grey, brown, grey, brown, grey, brown.
22:16:58 <_zephyris> True random is confusing, but defo seems broken.
22:28:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] ebla71 commented on issue #433: Bad gateway [Error code 502] https://github.com/OpenTTD/bananas-server/issues/433
23:48:23 <_zephyris> Is the sort order reversed now?