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05:53:18 <LordAro> those functions are intentionally unsupported iirc?
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07:07:47 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
07:41:32 <peter1138> Huh, forgot I already commented :D
07:45:40 <peter1138> LordAro, yeah, issuing a command requires suspending the script, and I suppose it can't be suspended from there.
07:51:14 <peter1138> _glx_ is our "make it suspendable" expert, I'm not sure if this can be.
09:54:00 <peter1138> Yeah, find the message then improve it then ;-)
09:56:43 <peter1138> Someone in my group took a segment from me, but Strava still lists me as KOM :o
11:00:38 <peter1138> Nope, 8 seconds (it's a 10+ minute segment)
11:00:55 <LordAro> strava can be slow to update with somethings
11:51:52 <_glx_> Hmm yeah, it's not possible to suspend inside a native function, and `acall` and friends are very low level native functions (that's what is used to run suspendable `valuate`)
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13:28:37 <peter1138> I don't use them so doesn't affect me.
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14:32:22 <_glx_> hmm actually async and estimate_only commands don't suspend, so in theory we can allow them
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14:53:16 <fairyflossy> I don't believe my ideas are particularly realistic, but rather to share than forget about it, on the off chance that someone can work with it
15:34:45 <andythenorth> is it not just cargos? 🙂
15:54:52 <fairyflossy> Variants but Cargo
15:55:15 <fairyflossy> Cargo with Badges
16:02:02 <dollarcoinguy> fairyflossy: Can't wait to add 3 different categories of valuables only one of which is deliverable
16:02:28 <dollarcoinguy> fairyflossy: jk, super excited for new feature
16:03:01 <fairyflossy> dollarcoinguy: Don't get too excited. It's just a concept/idea, and I'm not familiar enough with the OpenTTD codebase to make an attempt at it
16:03:19 <dollarcoinguy> fairyflossy: the village will pick apart your code and help make it work
16:03:28 <dollarcoinguy> or let the branch wilt
16:03:55 <dollarcoinguy> if i knew what i was doing i would rebase that bridge patch on latest trunk so we could finally get it merged
16:06:16 <fairyflossy> what bridge patch?
16:06:30 <fairyflossy> that AI-made one that got showed recently that wouldn't get accepted?
16:06:49 <dollarcoinguy> no it was some other one that's been being worked on for years, but i can't find it for some reason
16:07:03 <dollarcoinguy> also why am I just discovering this now???
16:07:51 <dollarcoinguy> I must've had my head buried in the sand for the past 5 years
16:22:04 <andythenorth> fairyflossy: also you can just create town industries to accept town cargos
16:32:11 <fairyflossy> andythenorth: Do those affect town growth? Leaving aside the issue of being unable to guarantee generation
16:33:43 <andythenorth> depends how much GS you write 😐
16:34:09 <andythenorth> no you can't guarantee placement in each town, and they consume the overall industry count (fixed per map size)
16:34:43 <andythenorth> maybe cargo grfs should be able to remap house acceptance using predicates
16:34:58 <andythenorth> e.g. 'accepts goods' -> 'accepts shoes, furniture, cheese'
16:36:25 <dollarcoinguy> How does NAIS implement its town growth effects?
16:36:52 <dollarcoinguy> those are vanilla, no?
16:37:38 <dollarcoinguy> They map fuel to goods to grow towns
16:38:45 <dollarcoinguy> Or are they bound with lots of GS
16:40:25 <dollarcoinguy> Oh, you are saying the root town acceptance should be able to be changed
16:45:47 <andythenorth> can't remember if there was a PR or discussion about it
16:46:08 <andythenorth> but it's a bit weird, with hindsight, that houses have to know about the cargo (industry) sets
17:21:11 <talltyler> You can add a house to the industry set, with maximum spawn probability and a limit of 1 per town. This is how I do it in Improved Town Industries.
17:28:01 * peter1138 mutters about town production effect properties.
17:36:11 <andythenorth> there was a spec once for town control in grf 😛
17:36:34 <andythenorth> hmm, I should make lunch
18:42:00 <rito12_13> Maybe it could be all cargos instead of first?
18:42:54 <rito12_13> or maybe better not
18:42:57 <dollarcoinguy> It's not choosing the first, it's just making sure that there is an appropriate cargo serving that town growth category
18:53:11 <andythenorth> I disavow the town growth effect cargo flags
19:05:14 <andythenorth> wonder what their steam forums made of that
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22:32:25 <peter1138> Hmm, is the version of OpenGFX 2 that is downloaded through Steam the current version?
22:33:41 <peter1138> (Or does it download an older version if you pick an older version of OpenTTD... hmm.)
22:47:21 <peter1138> Answer: it is not, and it does not. (Kinda, it removes OpenGFX2 and switches to OpenGFX1 when going before 15.0)
23:17:33 <_glx_> steam uses version uploaded to steam
23:20:55 <_glx_> and steam has some kind of package dependencies
23:23:28 <will_marshall_> Supremely confusing system but very powerful.
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