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06:01:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/31f8d76754f6606feaa53a35e34e2072fab13949
06:01:34 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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07:46:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #15692: Codechange: directly use _current_language->newgrflangid instead of maintaining a separate variable for two functions https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15692#pullrequestreview-4465642655
07:47:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #15691: Fix: town name language incorrectly decoded https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15691#issuecomment-4667832512
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11:21:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #15693: Fix: No reliability loss while vehicle is stopped in a depot https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15693
11:22:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15691: Fix: town name language incorrectly decoded https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15691#issuecomment-4669607403
11:46:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #15691: Fix: town name language incorrectly decoded https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15691#pullrequestreview-4467426129
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13:14:16 <peter1138> I wonder if that blip that killed irccloud also affect us...
13:15:31 <Izzybee> I guess it's technically a little offtopic but I couldn't find a JGRPP channel so behold, JGRPP patched to run on big-endian machines https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/7282.png
13:15:52 <Izzybee> (a friend did the work I don't know C++ to save my life)
13:21:05 <peter1138> There's a discord channel for it, or there's the github to submit pull requests to.
13:21:56 <Izzybee> The latter will hopefully be in our future, the former is not really an option I'm afraid. Ah well.
13:22:47 <peter1138> There's also tt-forums.net
13:23:00 <peter1138> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=73469
13:23:24 <peter1138> But if the problem also affects vanilla, it's worth getting it fixed in vanilla first.
13:25:36 <Izzybee> Amusingly, the issue I had making vanilla work the other day (https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15606) was also present in JGRPP but instead of the buttons not working it just hard crashed. Fun!
13:26:30 <peter1138> That would've been preferable to be honest, especially if it crashed for all builds.
13:27:03 <peter1138> (If it doesn't pass CI it can't get merged.)
13:27:44 <Izzybee> I mean, it only crashed once you clicked a button, but that would probably have been noticed earlier x3
13:28:09 <peter1138> Fair.
13:28:24 <Izzybee> It also seemed to manifest differently on here vs in the thread but the fix worked so :shrug:
13:30:15 <peter1138> Yeah, probably conversion of NaN to integer ends up with a different result on different platforms/compilers/dayoftheweek
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13:41:45 <peter1138> Mmm, lunch salad.
14:33:49 <peter1138> https://jonready.com/blog/posts/claude-fable5-is-allowed-to-sabotage-your-app-if-youre-a-competitor.html
14:39:42 <peter1138> Izzybee, I'm also just curious about what the big-endian issue is.
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16:22:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15692: Codechange: directly use _current_language->newgrflangid instead of maintaining a separate variable for two functions https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15692
16:22:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15691: Fix: town name language incorrectly decoded https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15691
16:25:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15655: Fix: incorrect language IDs passed to TranslateTTDPatchCodes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15655
16:27:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15656: Codechange: make a scoped GRFLanguages https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15656
16:32:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #15655: Fix: incorrect language IDs passed to TranslateTTDPatchCodes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15655#pullrequestreview-4469710122
16:34:16 <LordAro> well that's an odd CI error
16:36:33 <_glx_> log is all unordered
16:38:45 <_glx_> but looks like an actual issue with github nuget
16:43:53 <_glx_> hmm that's weird, let's try locally
16:44:23 <_glx_> oh could be we got the new windows-latest
16:45:16 <_glx_> and that would explain why it needs to rebuild some packages
16:47:35 <_glx_> `Image: windows-2025` works, `Image: windows-2025-vs2026` fails
16:51:16 <_glx_> hmm indeed compiler upgrade from 14.44 to 14.51
16:51:40 <_glx_> and I have the VS upgrade pending locally
16:51:45 <_glx_> let see
17:00:23 <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1514313292645138462/image.png?ex=6a2ae9a7&is=6a299827&hm=55645b70327f59b4da4babd36d9f59ed8a1bf83be130d972f35f89f12ecffc6f&
17:00:23 <_glx_> MS and AI translated documentation
17:00:34 <_glx_> (yes it translated "windows")
17:04:21 <_glx_> and indeed building breakpad fails locally
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17:10:58 <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1514315954010591422/image.png?ex=6a2aec22&is=6a299aa2&hm=66ba29a925a0d1660518e6096398a390fba8a5045b8b2ecd8d6bfe993539a8c1&
17:10:58 <_glx_> ok compiler changelog says it
17:11:20 <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1514316048080568430/image.png?ex=6a2aec38&is=6a299ab8&hm=9aa5133f8b42a2ec93083c57bf0e42f4347549d7c935e650fddcf80d724bdfc0&
17:11:20 <_glx_> failing line is
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17:15:29 <_glx_> our vcpkg baseline is still using v2023.06.01, but more recent vcpkg uses 2024-02-16 and and additionnal patch https://github.com/microsoft/vcpkg/pull/51774
17:54:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #15694: Update: vcpkg baseline https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15694
18:15:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15694: Update: vcpkg baseline https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15694#pullrequestreview-4470453557
18:19:26 <peter1138> Hrm
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19:09:50 <_glx_> thanks to updated compiler we have 6 new x86 warnings
19:11:17 <peter1138> Fix first?
19:12:10 <_glx_> unmergeable without indeed, but can't do a PR without the vcpkg fix 🙂
19:13:22 <peter1138> Yeah, so commit 1 to fix warnings, commit 2 to fix vcpkg?
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19:17:35 <peter1138> Hmm, my ball got stuck.
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19:20:41 <andythenorth> new Horse with fixed dual-head offsets?
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19:20:53 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1514348649822294260/image.png?ex=6a2b0a95&is=6a29b915&hm=484348eae9694335571a00167831da38281ae49b29e01aad5b90481c6ed20d8b&
19:24:12 <peter1138> Sure.
19:29:06 <andythenorth> and cab flags for trailer things
19:30:04 <andythenorth> `VEHICLE_FLAG_TRAIN_HAS_CAB`
19:30:08 <andythenorth> well
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19:40:28 <andythenorth> https://github.com/andythenorth/iron-horse/commit/1e51ee393c60eec50bc01c54cdc95335b15b1ecc
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19:52:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 dismissed a review for pull request #15694: Update: vcpkg baseline https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15694#pullrequestreview-4470453557
19:52:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #15694: Update: vcpkg baseline https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15694
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20:00:50 <andythenorth> might be the wrong channel but
20:01:05 <andythenorth> should we try to standardise a badge to indicate cabbed vehicles?
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20:12:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15694: Update: vcpkg baseline https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15694#pullrequestreview-4471254716
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20:16:55 <peter1138> Stilton.
20:28:48 <will_marshall_> andythenorth: Could I be radical and propose an implicit badge in the game rather than a thing newgrf authors should remember to put in?
20:29:18 <will_marshall_> I don't care what the badge is but if HAS_CAB automatically produced a badge that'd seem reasonable to me.
20:30:16 <will_marshall_> (nevermind the fact that I have personal beef with the cab flag and the consequences thereof)
20:30:25 <peter1138> No need for a badge, there's already a property.
20:30:51 <will_marshall_> The property doesn't produce something filterable in the UI.
20:31:47 <will_marshall_> (also has_cab vehicles should be allowed to lead a train, but that's a future argument)
20:43:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15694: Update: vcpkg baseline https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15694
20:43:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15656: Codechange: make a scoped GRFLanguages https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15656
20:44:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15655: Fix: incorrect language IDs passed to TranslateTTDPatchCodes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15655
20:54:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15695: Codechange: make GoalQuestionType and GoalType scoped enums. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15695
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21:07:42 <andythenorth> naptime though
21:16:18 <peter1138> Oh yeah.
21:21:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15695: Codechange: make GoalQuestionType and GoalType scoped enums. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15695
21:27:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15695: Codechange: make GoalQuestionType and GoalType scoped enums. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15695#pullrequestreview-4471701349
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21:36:25 <Izzybee> peter1138: I'm not familiar enough to answer in detail but the tl;dr is that the svector library JGRPP uses is Clever and because of that it would require some more work to support big-endian systems, which has not been done
21:38:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15655: Fix: incorrect language IDs passed to TranslateTTDPatchCodes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15655
21:44:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15656: Codechange: make a scoped GRFLanguages https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15656
21:50:52 <peter1138> Ah, so not a problem in vanilla.
22:45:49 <_jgr_> Izzybee: Hmm, I wasn't aware that that library had this issue, I should be able to sort that out later on
22:51:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15695: Codechange: make GoalQuestionType and GoalType scoped enums. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15695
22:59:11 <Izzybee> _jgr_: I have a patch file here if you want it but it's 90% just swapping it out for the stdlib vector. Plan was after some testing, add some preproc stuff to select svector on LE, stdlib vector on BE
23:00:11 <Izzybee> https://github.com/martinus/svector/issues/18 is the issue in svector, closed as completed but it doesn't seem to work x3
23:01:17 <Izzybee> No relevant commits that I can see \o/
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23:16:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] ebla71 commented on issue #433: Bad gateway [Error code 502] https://github.com/OpenTTD/bananas-server/issues/433
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23:50:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/BaNaNaS] PeterN opened pull request #161: Change: migrate OpenTTD user peter1138 to GitHub user PeterN https://github.com/OpenTTD/BaNaNaS/pull/161
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