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05:49:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/a894ddf66583052feaf11d162ccfc23972aa0f01



05:49:03  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)



06:47:22  <peter1138> \o/



07:12:09  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15675: Codefix: make scoped-named enum actually scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15675



07:12:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #15675: Codefix: make scoped-named enum actually scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15675#pullrequestreview-4442062966



08:07:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15675: Codefix: make scoped-named enum actually scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15675



08:11:09  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nsfluca commented on issue #9319: Bridges built over diagonal waterways can block them https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9319



08:30:49  <peter1138> Somewhat off-topic.



09:04:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 opened pull request #15676: Codechange: Make Foundation a scoped enum. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15676



09:10:07  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15677: Codechange: use IsValidTrack to test for valid track in more places https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15677



09:15:56  <peter1138> So for road pieces we have `RoadBit` and `RoadBits`, because `RoadBit` was only added recently. However for rail pieces (and ships) we have `Track` and `TrackBits`.



09:16:33  <peter1138> So 1) `Track` and `Tracks`, 2) `TrackBit` and `TrackBits` 3) leave it as is...?



10:20:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15677: Codechange: use IsValidTrack to test for valid track in more places https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15677#pullrequestreview-4442391731



10:32:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15678: Codefix: clean up confusion between Track and Trackdir https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15678



10:33:05  <peter1138> Hmm, I wonder which records need cleaning the most. I suspect probably "all of them" but...



10:33:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15677: Codechange: use IsValidTrack to test for valid track in more places https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15677



10:38:41  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1512767682183827657/image.png?ex=6a254a31&is=6a23f8b1&hm=a09008cc882a8a9dee250d5eab854fbec6fd72df2dd912e49c252a24a4a77885&



10:38:41  <_zephyris> Hmmm



10:41:36  <peter1138> Interesting.



10:41:43  <peter1138> Different set for tram-building?



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10:42:10  <mmtunligit> _zephyris: Oooooh



10:42:29  <_zephyris> Still trying to make it work properly 😉



10:42:40  <peter1138> Pfft, looks good, ship already ;)



10:43:12  <_zephyris> Half road tiles existing is annoying, there's a bunch of sub tile hover and drag corner cases to catch



10:44:21  <peter1138> Yes. I wanted half-tile road overlays for my drive-through depot stuff, but alas.



11:21:12  <_zephyris> Hmm, 'normal' road overlay you mean?



11:21:41  <_zephyris> Kinda assumed they exist for tunnels, but I must be getting mixed up with rail newgrf



12:28:41  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15678: Codefix: clean up confusion between Track and Trackdir https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15678#pullrequestreview-4442608701



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13:23:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #15585: Feature: Add default road/tram type setting https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15585



13:28:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15678: Codefix: clean up confusion between Track and Trackdir https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15678



13:39:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened issue #15679: [Crash]: Disconnecting train https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15679



13:48:48  <peter1138> Hm.



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14:24:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #15679: [Crash]: Disconnecting train https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15679



14:54:03  <_glx_> hmm the train is inside the depot



14:55:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison commented on issue #15679: [Crash]: Disconnecting train https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15679



15:03:24  <peter1138> Yeah, did not crash before #15662.



15:53:29  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #15680: Fix #15679: Train reversing when partially in a depot https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15680



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15:53:35  <_jgr_> Attempt 2...



16:05:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15681: Codechange: make signal-related enums scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15681



16:11:06  <_zephyris> Ugh, trying to use LLM to fix click+drag oddities. Absolute mess, totally incompetent.



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16:32:33  <peter1138> I mean, you do know what CONTRIBUTING.md says, right?



16:40:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15682: Codechange: make IConsoleMode a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15682



16:40:38  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15676: Codechange: Make Foundation a scoped enum. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15676#pullrequestreview-4443357402



16:56:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15681: Codechange: make signal-related enums scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15681#pullrequestreview-4443395772



17:01:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15682: Codechange: make IConsoleMode a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15682#pullrequestreview-4443410265



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17:09:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15680: Fix #15679: Train reversing when partially in a depot https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15680#pullrequestreview-4443432646



17:30:17  <_zephyris> I do indeed, but you'd hope for a bugfix it'd be a useful tool



17:34:23  <_zephyris> I think the actual 'hotspots' that the build road tool uses are wonky



17:37:41  <_zephyris> Hmm, why would a 16x16 matrix of NW, NE, SE, SW get automod blocked...



17:38:34  <_zephyris> Anyways, looks like it's not symmetrical, with a smaller SW.



17:42:47  <peter1138> No, I wouldn't think LLM is a useful tool for anything.



17:44:36  <_zephyris> Well, this debug effort is proving you right



17:45:45  <peter1138> I also wouldn't want to consider contaminating code with slop-generated code of unknown training origins.



17:51:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15676: Codechange: Make Foundation a scoped enum. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15676



17:52:14  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15681: Codechange: make signal-related enums scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15681



17:52:35  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15682: Codechange: make IConsoleMode a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15682



17:53:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15680: Fix #15679: Train reversing when partially in a depot https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15680



17:53:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN closed issue #15679: [Crash]: Disconnecting train https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15679



17:55:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15683: Codechange: make LinkType a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15683



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18:35:10  <spacemaniac[d]> _zephyris: if it works well, very cool! the cursor not showing which subtile you're clicking even though it matters has tripped up everyone I've introduced to the game



18:35:29  <_zephyris> 100%



18:35:40  <_zephyris> It confuses me enough, and new players definitely



18:36:25  <spacemaniac[d]> personally I'd love construction ghosts for stations or founding industries too, like the CityMania client has, but I get that it's harder



18:39:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15684: Codechange: make Track a scoped enum and TrackBits an EnumBitSet https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15684



18:41:26  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1512889170039800029/autoroadq.mp4?ex=6a25bb56&is=6a2469d6&hm=735994b18ca40fcc54c020d4fb70e32dbb0604df627b45f84984e5ad114b6a59&



18:54:59  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1512892578041692330/image.png?ex=6a25be82&is=6a246d02&hm=8ac05bcf194829c385b7b40184544a7db46640005fccfea10d02357588410b1d&



18:54:59  <_zephyris> This seems to be how the autoroad 'hotspot' works... which seems odd. Look at the SW patch.



18:57:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 opened pull request #15685: Codechange: Use CornerIndexArray instead of C-style arrays. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15685



19:18:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15684: Codechange: make Track a scoped enum and TrackBits an EnumBitSet https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15684



20:00:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] github-advanced-security[bot] commented on pull request #15684: Codechange: make Track a scoped enum and TrackBits an EnumBitSet https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15684#pullrequestreview-4443698607



20:22:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15684: Codechange: make Track a scoped enum and TrackBits an EnumBitSet https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15684#pullrequestreview-4443696868



20:24:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15683: Codechange: make LinkType a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15683#pullrequestreview-4443728630



20:25:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15685: Codechange: Use CornerIndexArray instead of C-style arrays. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15685#pullrequestreview-4443729693



20:54:41  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15683: Codechange: make LinkType a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15683



20:55:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15685: Codechange: Use CornerIndexArray instead of C-style arrays. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15685



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22:42:11  <_zephyris> Well, 6 hours later, there are still bugs...



22:42:18  <_zephyris> Well, only 2 bugs. The behaviour of within tile drag for road building tools is super confusing.



22:45:27  <_zephyris> Well, maybe 3 bugs, depends how strict you're feeling.



22:50:12  <_zephyris> Well, you could argue it's 5, but those 2 match existing autorail behaviour



22:51:03  <will_marshall_> at the current rate of self-criticism by the morning you'll be telling people that you haven't implemented the feature and there are 60,000 outstanding issues



22:52:12  <_zephyris> The 80-20 curve is so annoying.



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22:52:42  <will_marshall_> Extremely true 😞



22:53:54  <Izzybee> Heyas. I've built a copy of OpenTTD 15.3 on Adelie Linux (ppc, musl), and any button that would generate a dialog window doesn't work. I have a hunch it's because grfcodec and friends were out of date so I'm rebuilding now, but that'll take about six hours given the hardware. Anyone seen this issue before?



22:58:15  <Izzybee> (That is to say, the only buttons on the main menu that work are the high scores, scenario editor, and new game if I ctrl-click. Once I'm in a game, stuff like the game options window and framerate display refuse to appear)



23:02:51  <LordAro> that is not at all likely to be anything to do with grfcodec, which is only the build mechanism for the graphics sets



23:04:32  <LordAro> does sound potentially similar to https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15606 you could try the revert of the commit mentioned in there



23:07:38  <Izzybee> Okey, I'll patch that and see if it works.



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23:40:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SpaceManiac commented on issue #15606: [Bug]: Window controls missing https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15606