IRC Logs | #openttd | 2026-01-13

00:39:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] ingstem closed issue #66: Weekly summary creation is failing https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/issues/66

00:39:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] ingstem commented on issue #66: Weekly summary creation is failing https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/issues/66

00:48:05 <peter1138> 22:17 < yozora3> Wasn't what I was looking though, can't hide the badge name from vehicle description

00:48:10 <peter1138> I mean... isn't that what it does?

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01:37:04 <yozora3> peter1138: Sorry forgot to update, it's a jgrpp specific bug, all works on vanilla

01:37:43 <peter1138> Might just not exist in jgrpp yet.

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04:49:04 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

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06:24:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jnmbk opened pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101

06:40:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #12249: Add: [Script] Unbunch order flag https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12249#pullrequestreview-3654099045

07:53:24 <reldred> Last night was that good, huh?

08:00:36 <LordAro> gesturing broadly at the world?

08:49:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nemmerich opened issue #15102: [Bug]: AI Script Breakout https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15102

09:13:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] hantu85 commented on issue #15085: [Crash]: Crash on macOS starting OpenTTD with large interface scale https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15085

09:18:10 <peter1138> The link is 404 for me, so that's my excuse.

09:19:05 <LordAro> other two issues could be fixed though :)

09:19:53 <peter1138> I don't know what you looking at.

09:20:16 <LordAro> oh, you're saying the advisory is a 404 link

09:20:30 <LordAro> i'm saying the file attachment inside the advisory is a 404 :)

09:21:12 <peter1138> Probably want more than 1 person with access to advisories ;)

09:21:41 <LordAro> talltyler & _glx_ should be able to see it fine :p

09:21:42 <peter1138> I can see a draft from 2023, but nothing else.

09:22:27 <LordAro> let me have a look through the settings...

09:23:45 <LordAro> hmm, seems fixed unless i make you an admin

09:23:52 <LordAro> which i suppose i could... ;)

09:37:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jnmbk updated pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101

09:42:39 <peter1138> You can add collaborators to advisories individually.

09:43:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jnmbk updated pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101

09:49:56 <LordAro> it's quite amusing to see such functions written out in squirrel

09:52:32 <xarick> but it's safeguarded in order_gui.cpp, at least last time I investigated this

09:54:28 <peter1138> If you're trying to reply to a PR comment, try doing it on the PR comment itself.

09:55:00 <orudge> Logged into GOG and trying to see what's up with it, but looks like I can't just re-run the failed job for that now. They e-mailed us to ask why we hadn't published 15.0 basically.

09:56:10 <LordAro> orudge: the tl;dr is that the CI workflow we have no longer works, probably due to the "galaxy pipeline builder" we have available being too old

09:56:16 <LordAro> and being unable to find a newer version

09:56:24 <LordAro> if you've logged in, perhaps you can find a newer download link

09:57:00 <orudge> Yes, there's a version released in September

09:57:19 <LordAro> February 2022 might be too old :p

09:58:56 <orudge> OK, hmm, the build creator doesn't seem to have changed since 2019.

09:59:00 <orudge> The Pipeline Builder is recommended tool now.

10:01:04 <orudge> OK, looks like it shouldn't be too difficult to fix I hope

10:02:21 <LordAro> 15.0 will need publishing manually though

10:03:12 <orudge> I don't know who else sees the info@openttd.org e-mails apart from me, I know TrueBrain does but not sure who else has access these days

10:19:54 <talltyler> I do not receive those emails.

10:24:33 <orudge> OK, I've uploaded 15.0 to GOG and published it.

10:24:43 <orudge> I don't have GOG myself so can't really test it but can only hope and assume it's correct :D

10:24:55 <orudge> I'll submit a PR with the workflow changes

10:32:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge opened pull request #15103: Fix: [CI] Use the latest version of GOGGalaxyPipelineBuilder to upload releases to GOG https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15103

10:34:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #15103: Fix: [CI] Use the latest version of GOGGalaxyPipelineBuilder to upload releases to GOG https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15103#pullrequestreview-3655086378

10:40:37 <xarick> This error never happens, I hacked the code to force an error to show just to make a point: I ctrl-click on a depot which makes an unbunch at depot order, but this is the error I would get with the 2 tier error message system

10:40:59 <xarick> it's not a station, it's a depot

10:56:57 <kuhnovic> Great, now you can fix a bug that doesn't exist

11:11:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge merged pull request #15103: Fix: [CI] Use the latest version of GOGGalaxyPipelineBuilder to upload releases to GOG https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15103

11:12:54 <peter1138> orudge to the rescue... in basically 20 minutes :-)

11:13:21 <LordAro> how many months has that been failing for now? :p

11:15:43 <orudge> Now I just need to get around to trying to automate the Windows Store uploads, though last time I looked into that it involved setting up Active Directory gubbins and so on

11:15:53 <orudge> though given we now have that set up for Azure signing, I guess perhaps it wouldn't be so hard

11:16:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #12249: Add: [Script] Unbunch order flag https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12249#pullrequestreview-3655253041

11:18:45 <xarick> basically talltyler made a booboo which I'm trying to revert

11:22:51 <xarick> this derailed slightly into "make AIs aware of 2 tier error messages"

11:23:18 <LordAro> perhaps it would be more productive to close this one and start again

11:30:14 <peter1138> > [Bus Route Builder] Unhandled error building bus stop: ERR_UNKNOWN Trying again.

11:31:45 <LordAro> yeah, but i've not looked at it since 2012 :p

11:32:34 <peter1138> Then there's the AI that just spams bus stops everywhere.

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11:54:19 <LordAro> _glx_: feel like rebasing that other advisory PR?

12:06:36 <orudge> OK, I can programmatically retrieve info on the MS Store submissions, though of course this tool uses JSON rather than the CSV that the web interface uses.

12:07:08 <orudge> I suspect for automation purposes we ideally just need to use default generic notes rather than specific notes for each version (which I don't think we can easily do via GitHub submissions)

12:07:23 <orudge> but hopefully it won't be too difficult to get this automated. I'll probably have to wait for 15.1 to test it out though. :P

12:13:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] LordAro opened pull request #371: Fix: Filter out security patches from security page https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/371

12:15:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] PeterN approved pull request #371: Fix: Filter out security patches from security page https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/371#pullrequestreview-3655483418

12:16:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] LordAro merged pull request #371: Fix: Filter out security patches from security page https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/371

12:16:13 <LordAro> well that's one part of several

12:37:41 <_glx_> Will rebase the PR in next hours

13:09:46 <ahyangyi> I love that files have names.

13:12:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] abi9ail opened pull request #15104: Fix #15098: Map generation town road check in #12503, and associated Changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15104

13:18:32 <__abigail> abi9ailviaGitHub: I completely fucking forgot about my last PR, oops...

13:18:43 <LordAro> i love it when we get new developers

13:19:07 <LordAro> ...that's not intended to be read as sarcastic, in light of your comment

13:19:46 <__abigail> I am just (hopefully temporarily) unemployed with too much time on my hands and not enough to do in this shithole with nothing around

13:20:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #12249: Add: [Script] Unbunch order flag https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12249#pullrequestreview-3655767617

13:21:15 <__abigail> belajalilija: Depends... will you give me money? 🥺

13:25:26 <belajalilija> I wish i had money to give

13:27:42 <rito12_51026> kuhnovic: It exist in multiplayer

13:29:25 <isosys> Is there anywhere that explains WWT_MATRIX, and NWID_MATRIX? The differences between the two, the use case for each?

13:36:56 <peter1138> Not really. They are basically entirely different beasts.

13:37:46 <peter1138> NWID_MATRIX is basically only used by the common picker window now.

13:38:32 <peter1138> So if in doubt, you probably want WWT_MATRIX in most cases.

13:51:50 <_glx_> Hmm actually <https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10883> is already applied so rebasing the advisory ends up with "warning: skipped previously applied commit 48716357ee"

14:00:27 <LordAro> or a proper CVE post should be put together ;)

14:00:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101#issuecomment-3744494495

14:01:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101#issuecomment-3744499890

14:07:58 <peter1138> It was policy to not touch currencies, yes.

14:23:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #12249: Add: [Script] Unbunch order flag https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12249#pullrequestreview-3656083600

14:32:44 <isosys> peter1138: Thanks. I guess I'll have to investigate and write it myself 😅

14:32:44 <isosys> I really thought they were similar, just one was easier to work with for certain scenarios/use cases.

14:33:24 <peter1138> I... don't know what you are talking about :)

14:34:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] krizb8 opened issue #15105: [Crash]: When generating new map with czech names https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15105

14:44:21 <peter1138> Array out of bounds or string formatter? I couldn't reproduce.

14:45:02 <_glx_> it asserts in basic_string::operator[] for me

14:45:57 <LordAro> i can't reproduce either (tried with a 4k map)

14:46:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #15105: [Crash]: When generating new map with czech names https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15105

14:46:54 <LordAro> stricter libstdc++ on fedora, perhaps?

14:51:48 <peter1138> The curse of switching from char[] to std::string_view, I suppose.

14:56:17 <peter1138> Step 1) work out what the intention of the code is...

14:57:32 <_glx_> building the commit before the switch to see what it's supposed to do

14:58:04 <LordAro> oop, managed to link RB's fork

14:59:29 <_glx_> pff as always with "old" commits I need to cherry-pick a Win32 fix

15:02:15 <peter1138> LordAro, back then it would hit the NUL byte, instead of being OOB.

15:03:48 <_glx_> yeah looks like an off by one in the check, should have been <=

15:05:27 <_glx_> I like when it crashes in unexpected places like TriggerAirportAnimation because grffile in nullptr but `var18_extra |= ats->grf_prop.grffile->cargo_map[cargo_type] << 8;`

15:05:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #15104: Fix #15098: Map generation town road check in #12503, and associated Changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15104#issuecomment-3744853423

15:06:36 <LordAro> ...i hope that's unrelated to czech town names

15:07:49 <peter1138> Well, we could use .at() in more places.

15:13:23 <_glx_> to be able to run the commit before the string_view switch

15:14:12 <_glx_> and yeah it was pure luck with char* due to extra `\0`

15:15:06 <_glx_> funny how all postfix strings are always 2 chars long

15:44:17 <_glx_> and the `/* k-i -> c-i, h-i -> z-i */` never happens

15:45:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #15078: Codechange: Add docs for undocumented economy enum members and make them enum classes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15078

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16:09:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #12249: Add: [Script] Unbunch order flag https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12249#pullrequestreview-3656631444

16:23:54 <xarick> someone agrees with me! impecable

16:24:13 <J_Darnley> Why can't I find a grf in the in-game downloader but I can see it on the bananas webpage?

16:29:17 <_glx_> and previous versions are only for savegames

16:30:55 <J_Darnley> I see that now I click through to a specific "file"

16:50:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15078: Codechange: Add docs for undocumented economy enum members and make them enum classes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15078#pullrequestreview-3656833647

16:50:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101#issuecomment-3745374333

16:53:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX2] outofcreativity commented on issue #235: new naming of OpenGFX2 files inside the archive breaks extract script https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX2/issues/235

16:55:13 <peter1138> CVS is a horrible version control system.

16:55:37 <LordAro> even freebsd has moved to git now

17:00:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jnmbk commented on pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101#issuecomment-3745419933

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17:02:36 <peter1138> > ${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/*.{grf,obg} ${PREFIX}/share/openttd/data/

17:08:08 <LordAro> mm, still not sure why it's relevant

17:08:19 <LordAro> other than wanting to list the file being extracted explicitly i suppose

17:08:34 <LordAro> i can understand not wanting to distribute container formats

17:15:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jnmbk updated pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101

17:52:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106

18:07:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #15078: Codechange: Add docs for undocumented economy enum members and make them enum classes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15078

18:14:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657177875

18:14:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #15078: Codechange: Add docs for undocumented economy enum members and make them enum classes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15078

18:17:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657194245

18:18:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657198580

18:24:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 opened pull request #15107: Cleanup: Remove client side checks for unbunch order. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15107

18:29:29 <_glx_> hmm actually except operator[] only validating via assert, other accesses seem to be protected

18:41:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15078: Codechange: Add docs for undocumented economy enum members and make them enum classes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15078#pullrequestreview-3657284837

18:44:43 <Rubidium> oh... I was just about to complain about some inconsistency...

18:45:56 <Rubidium> or maybe you don't have that inconsistency problem? In GH issues and PRs in the navigation bar have a count. Security does too when it's about CodeQL, but not the other stuff...

18:52:24 <keimfrei> Greetings, One Questions. Where can i find the file with the high score entries? 🙂

18:53:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #15101: Change: Currency: update turkish lira value and symbol https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15101#issuecomment-3745871406

19:10:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106

20:04:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15099: Codechange: some documentation for enumerations https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15099

20:06:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15107: Cleanup: Remove client side checks for unbunch order. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15107#pullrequestreview-3657752097

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20:23:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657807024

20:25:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #15107: Codefix: Remove unnecessary client side checks for setting an unbunch order https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15107

20:27:57 <LordAro> not sure if #15107 should be backported, but i've added the label

20:28:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657825930

20:29:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657829326

20:30:16 <LordAro> _glx_: feels like this one should have multiple reviews :)

20:34:28 <LordAro> and probably rebase-merged too

20:35:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #15099: Codechange: some documentation for enumerations https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15099#pullrequestreview-3657844837

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20:53:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657899896

20:54:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15099: Codechange: some documentation for enumerations https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15099

20:59:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657918836

21:11:44 <xarick> woah, just like that! Rito13 comes to the rescue

21:13:41 <rito12_51026> Thanks Rubidium and LordAro

21:17:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3657976761

21:18:30 <xarick> visual studio 18.2.0 is out, more AI stuff maybe?

21:22:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #15100: Codechange: Lower PNG compression level from 6 to 4 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15100#issuecomment-3746631599

21:24:56 <LordAro> rito12_51026: are those sizes the wrong way round?

21:25:30 <LordAro> i would not expect the sizes to go down...

21:26:29 <LordAro> though if it's increasing that much i'm not sure it's a desirable change

21:35:11 <rito12_51026> LordAro: Yes they are I have mismatched them with the times, I will fix that

21:49:59 <peter1138> Okay, but do we compress the image in a separate thread?

21:50:38 <andythenorth> did we want more or fewer pixels posted? 😛

22:03:51 <peter1138> AIAI does like to place billions of road stops.

22:03:57 <peter1138> I wonder what error we're misreporting.

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22:25:14 <peter1138> Hmm, there are no town-specific script errors.

22:25:32 <peter1138> We have STR_ERROR_TOO_CLOSE_TO_EDGE_OF_MAP_SUB and STR_ERROR_TOO_CLOSE_TO_ANOTHER_TOWN

22:42:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jonnyawsom3 commented on pull request #15100: Codechange: Lower PNG compression level from 6 to 4 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15100#issuecomment-3746898027

23:19:54 <xarick> microslop keeps ruining visual studio

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23:38:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #12249: Add: [Script] Unbunch order flag https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12249

23:46:15 <xarick> I untouched order_cmd.cpp entirely. There is the minor caveat that Halt + Unbunch flags combined isn't being properly denied at the DoCommand level though... but I made sure this combo is not passed by script_order

23:58:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #15106: Fix: [Script] Raise error if array index is not valid. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15106#pullrequestreview-3658352871