IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2025-10-10
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04:16:42 <emperorjake> melonbear: This should rather be in Discord channel #add-on-development
04:19:06 <melonbear> emperorjake: removed and moved this message to the another channel
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06:32:12 <andythenorth[d]> because Apple
06:32:24 <andythenorth[d]> why not powers of 2? I know not
06:32:38 <andythenorth[d]> don't tell Peter how much my laptop cost 😐
06:43:50 <dh1> i wonder if i should upgrade from my m2 mcbook
06:44:11 <dh1> m4 mcbook would literally cost more than my car
07:22:45 <andythenorth[d]> My van costs more to insure tax and service per year than my laptop costs to own per year
07:23:25 <dh1> lol ok i just meant capex ok
07:23:50 <dh1> my best car is worth maaaaybe nzd $8k as long as the buyer doesn't notice the timing belt noise
07:24:06 <dh1> my other car would be significantly less
07:26:41 <jfkuayue> iPhone shortcomings are generally seen as “user problems” by many people while android shortcomings are seen as design problems
07:28:46 <jfkuayue> Before dual-sim appeared on iPhone, many apple fans would say “you don’t need dual-sim”
07:39:19 <mnhebi> I understand dual sims for business, but what do you need dual sim for in a private phone?
07:48:53 <reldred> though e-sim is making that less important
07:52:30 <locosage> I'm juggling like 4 sims
07:53:03 <locosage> from different countries
08:21:38 <tabytac> reldred: traveing over the summer and still used normal sims from a store as they were soooooo much cheaper than my friends who bought an esim online
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08:45:44 <ryandtw> my iphones (14 and 16 pro max) are esim only
09:30:45 <reldred> iphones vary depending where you live, mine has regular sim+esim
09:40:25 <dh1> sim sim+esim sim sim+esim sim sim sirree
09:55:44 <peter1138> Have we disconnected from Discord yet?
10:24:13 <xarick> there's an issue with trees on snow
10:24:45 <xarick> this tree has just been placed
10:25:05 <xarick> it spawns with ice on the ground
10:44:47 <kuhnovic> Does it only happen with OpenGfx2?
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11:18:41 <dh1> used to talking to chatgpt?
11:20:31 <dh1> but also this is how my 11 year old communicates in messages
11:20:39 <dh1> smart kid, but online communication is... different
11:26:53 <xarick> case 2: { // add a neighbouring tree
11:33:03 <xarick> maybe line 120 in tree_cmd.cpp
11:33:26 <xarick> something about rought snow ground
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11:40:47 <squirejames> andythenorth[d]: This is why I don't talk to young people 😛
11:43:50 <peter1138> xarick, yeah, potentially incorrect now that snow is a separate flag.
11:58:31 <LordAro> andythenorth[d]: their profile is a real trip
11:58:49 <LordAro> the ban hammer approach
11:58:50 <dh1> what i wanna see is openttd engine used to simulate the olympics
11:58:55 <dh1> might need jgrpp for that
11:59:37 <dh1> each athlete is an enginetype
12:03:10 <LordAro> also, is chillcore... ok?f
12:03:39 <peter1138> I think that's the wording I used.
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12:31:11 <peter1138> > something Alberth tought me years ago ... "write and delete ... forget about it"
12:43:45 <xarick> this seems to fix, but im unsure
12:44:44 <xarick> not familiar how trees are processed
13:13:49 <peter1138> Check what "Clear Density" refers to. It might not make sense for anything other than GroundType::Clear -- or it might be valid for all MP_CLEAR.
13:14:29 <peter1138> Basically it still looks wrong.
13:16:55 <peter1138> What would make sense would be to properly separate snow state from density state.
13:17:31 <peter1138> IMHO that condition should actually be `if (clearground == CLEAR_GRASS) density = GetClearDensity(tile);`
13:17:44 <peter1138> And then the actual problem is `uint density = 3;` at the top.
13:18:41 <peter1138> For tiles without snow density (i.e. only MP_CLEAR, with IsSnowTile true and ClearGround::Clear) the density should be calculated.
13:18:52 <peter1138> (Based on altitude).
13:19:13 <peter1138> I think I jumbled that all :)
13:19:33 <peter1138> without snow density is anything except that condition.
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17:04:25 <andythenorth[d]> oh wait, time for tea
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18:24:04 <peter1138> Oh, should I have got something for dinner.
18:50:09 <jfkuayue> seems another north-south division
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18:56:45 <notluke2578> sample size too small lmao
19:00:39 <LordAro> that's Rutland for you
19:05:06 <notluke2578> nah thats too posh
19:06:27 <andythenorth[d]> I am very posh
19:10:38 <_zephyris> Weird, I thought it was called 'it's getting cold'.
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21:26:49 <peter1138> Anyone for some refactoring?
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