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04:38:08 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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07:12:16 <peter1138> Hm, should rail/road/tram types gain a minimum bridge height...
07:12:37 <peter1138> Looking at you, suspended tram tracks...
07:13:12 <andythenorth> apparently it's fine that they clip catenary 🙂
07:13:46 <peter1138> Catenary is disabled for 1-high bridges.
07:15:20 <andythenorth> air draft for ships too?
07:16:41 * andythenorth tests if HEQS clips bridges
07:19:57 <rito12_51026> Also signals clip
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07:36:23 <andythenorth> it also clips catenary on flat crossings
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07:58:23 <andythenorth> pff laptop selling admin day
07:58:29 <andythenorth> photos, ebay listing blah blah
08:34:15 <truebrain> But less laptops 😛 Prevents that issue 😄
08:35:05 <andythenorth> or sell less laptops
10:09:01 <_zephyris> andythenorth: It is indeed my fault, and is a bunch of graphical hacks.
10:09:50 <andythenorth> 'fault' is a strong word 🙂
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10:13:46 <_zephyris> It was a fun graphical wrangle, but the list of known bugs is quite extensive...
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10:55:39 <reldred> peter1138: I think it would be useful for susmon, give it a more ‘complete’ feel
11:51:54 <peter1138> Oh dear, someone in my ride came off on mud round a bend.
11:57:37 <peter1138> But at least the game crash I introduced is fixed :D
14:16:30 <michi_cc> Self-approve you mean? /s (Not a GitHub admin, though)
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14:50:27 <andythenorth> 14357 is probably done? "for now" 🙂
15:02:20 <michi_cc> Would need some NML love
15:05:32 <peter1138> multi-roadtype road vehicles next? :D
15:07:55 <michi_cc> peter1138: Though about it, and a PR would probably look very similar.
15:19:34 <michi_cc> Okay, spec wiki changes done.
15:20:57 <_glx_> I'll look at nml (if nobody else is on it)
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15:50:51 <peter1138> Ah bums, my code breaks with the RailVehInfo union now :o
16:34:51 <LordAro> i think black might have an option for reflowing strings
16:34:55 <_glx_> oh of course it's in `fmt: off`
16:41:03 <peter1138> Variants are kind of a pain.
16:41:14 <peter1138> std::variant that is.
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16:44:11 <_glx_> when you want to use them with different non strong types ?
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16:44:47 <peter1138> Oh, the GetAllRailTypes is a problem :(
16:45:20 <peter1138> I should've looked at the API changes.
16:45:41 <peter1138> RailTypes is a problem for me.
16:45:53 <peter1138> ScriptList would be nicer.
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16:47:43 <chucky76> I want to compile beta 3 at little vserver and I was suprised that game beta2 is still running with 15 companies. good work! sorry for break.
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16:48:30 <peter1138> ScriptRailTypeList, but...
16:48:55 <peter1138> _glx_, can a script API method return a ScriptList?
16:49:47 <_glx_> I think some method already do
16:50:51 <peter1138> ScriptIndustryType does it. Nice.
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17:00:08 <peter1138> It builds and runs and passes unit tests, but of course the unit tests don't test this feature :)
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17:22:23 <peter1138> I only caught this because I was rebasing my more-railtypes branch, otherwise we might've been stuck with an awkward API.
17:26:34 <andythenorth> May is a long time ago
17:26:39 <andythenorth> not sure what that branch does 😛
17:33:03 <andythenorth> oof I can't trivially test prop 34 with Horse, as my main branch depends on the nml badges PR 🙂
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17:35:41 <andythenorth> confirmed working locally
17:36:00 <andythenorth> used an older branch, old Horse was slooooow to compile 😛
17:36:13 <andythenorth> this radically simplifies railtypes eh
17:45:59 <peter1138> Ah, always 0 because it's only available engines.
17:47:47 <_glx_> at least it matches GetRailType() return
17:51:37 <_glx_> updated GetAllRailTypes test for a better output
17:56:52 <peter1138> _glx_, not helpful, as the pointers change between runs.
17:57:07 <_glx_> yeah I was typing that 🙂
17:58:45 <peter1138> == null ? "null" : "instance"
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18:17:11 <jottyfan> does anyone know how I can get access to my old account with my new github login?
18:17:33 <jottyfan> I want to upload a new grf in bananas, but I am not allowed to
18:17:51 <jottyfan> well - it is just a new version of an existing one...
18:20:02 <peter1138> Must resist urge to have a beer with dinner.
18:21:50 <jottyfan> thanks - but this is what I already know. This page is about migration from old accounts that have not been github before, but I have had a github account, cancelled that and created a new one now.
18:22:28 <peter1138> I would start from there, it might just be a case that someone needs to change from the old to the new github account id.
18:22:58 <jottyfan> so I simply write an email to info@openttd.org ? Is it that easy?
18:23:18 <LordAro> assuming you include proof of ownership of both accounts
18:23:39 <jottyfan> great, then I will give it a try. Thank you so much!
18:23:53 <LordAro> or at least something that proves you own that account
18:24:08 <LordAro> or artifacts attached to it
18:24:29 <LordAro> don't be alarmed if it takes a few days
18:24:49 <peter1138> Yeah it is entirely manual :)
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18:52:34 <andythenorth> who merges for nml?
18:52:55 <andythenorth> I used to have rights, but I relinquished them due to self-doubt 😛
20:17:01 <peter1138> I missed something.
20:17:14 <peter1138> `SLE_VAR(Train, railtypes, SLE_UINT64),`
20:17:26 <peter1138> Shouldn't that be a SLE_CONDVAR?
20:17:34 <peter1138> (It apparently works, though.)
20:19:40 <andythenorth> hmm Horse depends on OpenTTD 15 anyway
20:19:45 <andythenorth> so might as well use prop 34
20:21:56 <michi_cc> peter1138: Stuff that gets a new name doesn't need the COND bit anymore (at least is what TB told me repeatedly :), because we look it up by name now).
20:23:01 <peter1138> Also this is now painful for my branch so I might do the removal thing anyway :o
20:23:38 <peter1138> michi_cc, makes it kinda hard to track when variables were added though.
20:24:03 <peter1138> I wonder how much stuff I've added with CONDVAR that I apparently didn't need to.
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20:27:27 <peter1138> Train::ConsistChanged resets it anyway.
20:28:45 <michi_cc> If I understood the "new" savegame table format correctly (a true brain can correct me if wrong), CONDVAR is only strictly needed if the type changes or you need to do some conversion. Added doesn't need it, dropping something doesn't necessarily need it (but will produce a debug level something message).
20:32:12 <peter1138> Damn, I yolo'd too hard :(
20:32:30 <peter1138> I cannot see how to simply remove vars now.
20:40:00 <peter1138> michi_cc, funny, loads of us have been adding new vars with min & max specified, and nobody said it's not needed :o
20:40:25 <michi_cc> I think you need an appropriate `SLC_NULL` in the compat table if it is something from before the new table format.
20:55:16 <peter1138> Something something.
21:03:44 <andythenorth> sun is over the yardarm though
21:04:36 <peter1138> It's now winter. Permanently dark until spring.
21:04:56 <peter1138> The 3 seasons. Spring, Summer, Winter.
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21:14:53 <peter1138> Maybe I can build my branch again now :)
21:15:17 <peter1138> (I really don't fancy having to introduce another saveload conversion for railtypes so soon...)
21:15:55 <peter1138> Feedback on 15.0-beta3 is seems okay so far.
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