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00:06:58  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402805179803504650/image.png?ex=68953fa1&is=6893ee21&hm=aa6248c8f88e75506f291326f512a4f06ea33dc635cd42ddd129c77a5280bedb&



00:06:58  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402805180088455209/image.png?ex=68953fa1&is=6893ee21&hm=ae185ea99892d624ff2f7b2a2434f4d10fdb50eddbae1e1451c81d1185eaec61&



00:06:58  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402805180436709396/image.png?ex=68953fa1&is=6893ee21&hm=e1454ede0b86d81db2c2bcc733b0deca824426f69ac582a2a5f7c2ca9216e220&



00:06:58  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402805180860207135/image.png?ex=68953fa1&is=6893ee21&hm=f9db177842dd50f742d5b3670e234ebf1767c4db72f2313bda530755ec3b5145&



00:06:58  <yiffgirl> this is very strange



00:07:32  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402805325597376613/image.png?ex=68953fc4&is=6893ee44&hm=8ec6fd77b95361a87f5873f32bbddc2cd3240c6e5d0e6568ff6f21f736c23495&



00:07:32  <yiffgirl> here's a normal town for comparison.



00:09:22  <yiffgirl> i don't understand why it should be cut off like this. it's not dependent on length, and it's not consistent with how many characters get cut off



00:43:07  <yiffgirl> i feel like i'm losing my mind. the exact same string as what's in master also gets cut off, but only when it's specifically my new string??



00:50:32  <yiffgirl> oh, it's probably UpdateVirtCoord



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01:57:40  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402833042053005352/image.png?ex=68955994&is=68940814&hm=499f00696a24c548c0a2755807121172af5c6f5e8e65ce01a94c1346d5613ab5&



01:57:40  <yiffgirl> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402833042262855750/image.png?ex=68955994&is=68940814&hm=25077933853ab67aff6965034348f08e2f61aaa690f4050762ecc95048de2374&



01:57:40  <yiffgirl> yay ^w^



02:05:57  <yiffgirl> i'll pr this tomorrow probably



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04:48:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/2b6cb8a2d2102c7bc0fc8a893cf2812ea1b95a3a



04:48:56  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)



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06:48:35  <peter1138> Bleh.



06:54:15  <LordAro> ikr



06:57:43  <LordAro> yiffgirl: the trouble is when you end up with a town name that has a suffix of 'City'. It looks very bad



06:57:55  <LordAro> Or worse, confusing



07:02:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14501: Codefix: Move provider instances to static members. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14501



07:03:27  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #14501: Codefix: Move provider instances to static members. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14501#pullrequestreview-3095642650



07:04:27  <pickpacket> LordAro: worth it, imho. 



07:04:30  <peter1138> Shame I can't do `static inline` to keep it even more self-contained, but of course the type is incomplete at that point.



07:04:40  <pickpacket> yiffgirl: ty! I've wanted this for a long time!



07:08:06  <peter1138> I went out cycling while tired and with little energy. Managed the ride but this morning... ooof.



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08:21:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14501: Codefix: Move provider instances to static members. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14501



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09:00:31  <locosage> cmclient differentiates cities with color



09:00:52  <locosage> it's not particularly obvious but once you learn it it's better than having extra (City) everywhere



09:22:30  <pickpacket> peter1138: A goldfish is a memory master compared to me and I've probably asked this five times before. If that's so I'm sorry. Are you working on increasing the number of available livery colours?



10:48:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #14477: Feature: Allow stations under bridges and bridges over stations. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14477#issuecomment-3163559582



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11:04:23  <ahyangyi> I like the PR title, and the PR title is liked by me



11:17:20  <kuhnovic> Department of redundancy department



11:31:39  <wensimehrp> Buffalo buffalo



11:32:49  <ahyangyi> Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo sleep furiously is bald.



11:51:39  <talltyler> pickpacket: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11634



12:13:00  <pickpacket> talltyler, peter1138: <3



12:18:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14477: Feature: Allow stations under bridges and bridges over stations. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14477#issuecomment-3163950592



12:23:44  <peter1138> kuhnovic, it's redundancy until you consider build order. Which of course shouldn't matter, although actually with the bridge pillar restrictions it did). However, I think most people consider it "bridges over stations", but the original patch porter called it "stations under bridges".



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12:27:14  <bigyihsuan> talltyler: This would be nice



12:43:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #14476: Fix: Disallow unsafe access to baseset version and parameters. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14476#issuecomment-3164027057



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12:55:11  <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402998505596780646/image.png?ex=6895f3ae&is=6894a22e&hm=7536e535c7623a3700412120edf89a4050ab3258a7b211abddd68464d76d6667&



12:55:11  <peter1138[d]> Reduced by 4 pixels still looks okay?



12:57:21  <kuhnovic> peter1138: I was commenting on Ahyangyi's message about the PR title. Your stuff has nothing to do with redundancy if you ask me 🙂



12:58:19  <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1402999298106589336/image.png?ex=6895f46b&is=6894a2eb&hm=e0f0b5497d887791358115c37fc93645696d571892b9189e01459c9dd48485b8&



12:58:19  <peter1138[d]> (Waypoints as they are now)



12:58:58  <belajalilija> they look fine



12:59:08  <belajalilija> make sure they dont mess with grfs with double decker trains tho i guess



13:00:44  <peter1138[d]> If they fit under bridges they'll fit under waypoints.



13:02:10  <talltyler> Looks good to me.



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13:03:36  <peter1138[d]> Hmm, maybe they could be narrowed a bit as well.



13:04:10  <peter1138[d]> Nah, unnecessary.



13:09:26  <_zephyris> Moar



13:09:38  <_zephyris> I suspect you can loose another pixel or two



13:09:45  <_zephyris> Copying tunnels is a good idea



13:29:06  <peter1138> Needs to lose more if you want 1-high bridges over waypoints, but I think 2-high should work with this.



13:31:29  <kuhnovic> 2 high is low enough right? 1 seems a bit too low to me



14:07:31  <peter1138> In terms of ease-of-use, 1-high is optimal. Anything more requires prepping slopes...



14:15:49  <peter1138> Urgh. Could we use the unused entry to separate north/south pillars?



14:41:33  <_zephyris> I'd do 2 height, a bit of a challenge for the players 😉



15:13:53  <peter1138> Hmm, or can we use the 'subsprite' system to handle front-rear stuff. Hmm...



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15:47:44  <peter1138> Nah, separate sprites would be easier to deal with.



16:19:28  <peter1138> Not a task for now.



16:21:04  <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1403050316219547820/image.png?ex=689623ee&is=6894d26e&hm=a2535d617c55bad006bc1c424ef5054a4a4a4149de4a9398de901e685c41eee7&



16:21:04  <peter1138[d]> Hmm.



16:21:50  <peter1138> Pillar alignment is all kinds of messed up.



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16:58:30  <peter1138> Do we need a 'force 1x sprite font` option? :o



17:01:32  <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1403060505345785876/image.png?ex=68962d6c&is=6894dbec&hm=27b64e2efed1afa720c1fc542971b95fd2b31d7681ef1537f27bea9f7535c1a1&



17:01:32  <peter1138[d]> Without pillar exclusions on the waypoint. It's... not too bad.



17:03:30  <LordAro> first one doesn't look too bad to me



17:03:48  <LordAro> the second works fine for those specific graphics, but who knows what it looks like with other basesets



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17:31:39  <_zephyris> peter1138: Highest resolution sprites 1x?



17:33:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #13547: Fix #13307: Return non-zero value when there is a mistake in command-line arguments https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13547



17:37:09  <peter1138> Well, OpenGFX 2 waypoints are huge :o



17:37:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14450: Codechange: Add font cache factory providers. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14450



17:45:45  <Rubidium> sometimes I wish for a GitHub function that only shows the changes to the relevant bits when comparing after a forced push



17:51:52  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #14450: Codechange: Add font cache factory providers. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14450#pullrequestreview-3098224072



17:52:40  <truebrain> Rubidium: Yes. This. Please! 😄



17:55:23  <peter1138> Yeah, sorry.



18:02:55  <zanooda2000> peter1138[d]: Looks much better than original, now it seems like catenary support instead of "unnecesary tall gate-thing"



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18:38:04  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14450: Codechange: Add font cache factory providers. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14450



18:51:17  <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1403088126192390235/image.png?ex=68964725&is=6894f5a5&hm=62a7856f4f1ea77bdc5e5d9419cbc9872092990ead4d8bea4b484201940fa022&



18:51:17  <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1403088126670536887/image.png?ex=68964725&is=6894f5a5&hm=0a7f2c5cabadd3a05a3011a7f16de2872df090b46f7e7b11c39093b0a558b05e&



18:51:26  <peter1138[d]> This patch still works... which is nice.



18:51:54  <peter1138[d]> But I don't know the way everything resizes because it dynamically loaded a different font for a few characters.



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19:32:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] mwmoriarty commented on issue #14035: [Bug]: OpenTTD does not consider FluidSynth config https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14035



19:49:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] mwmoriarty opened issue #14502: [Bug]: vehicle replacement with wagon removal https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14502



20:02:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN closed issue #14502: [Bug]: vehicle replacement with wagon removal https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14502



20:02:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #14502: [Bug]: vehicle replacement with wagon removal https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14502



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20:08:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic commented on pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#issuecomment-3165564365



20:08:43  <kuhnovic> I don't sell it well, I know that



20:15:27  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#issuecomment-3165580837



20:20:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic commented on pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#issuecomment-3165591501



20:23:05  <kuhnovic> I played around with coast avoidance a bit, on top of that PR. The sillyness become most noticable when ships are travelling along the coast, coast avoidance makes it look more natural.



20:24:06  <peter1138> Exactly :)



20:24:51  <kuhnovic> Which is probably why you also messed around with it in your branch 🙂



20:30:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14503: Change: Reduce visual height of default rail waypoints. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14503



20:31:23  <peter1138> kuhnovic, probably :)



20:31:56  <peter1138> That was definitely a hack though, it feels like it would be quite expensive :)



20:33:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#issuecomment-3165622156



20:36:07  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#issuecomment-3165627897



20:36:16  <kuhnovic> Yes indeed. I used the tile loop to label all tiles in a 1 tile radius from the coast, that worked well. But of course going bigger that 1 could become quite a burden on the tile loop as well, especially on 4K maps.



20:51:04  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic commented on pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#issuecomment-3165669215



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20:53:41  <peter1138> Hmm, looking at the waypoint side-by-side (well, vertically...) it's really not much different. Hmm.



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21:05:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic updated pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493



21:07:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic commented on pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#pullrequestreview-3098718410



21:08:03  <kuhnovic> Naming things, possibly that hardest thing in software development



21:23:47  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14476: Fix: Disallow unsafe access to baseset version and parameters. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14476#issuecomment-3165757412



21:24:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #13547: Fix #13307: Return non-zero value when there is a mistake in command-line arguments https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13547#pullrequestreview-3098758713



21:29:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #13547: Fix #13307: Return non-zero value when there is a mistake in command-line arguments https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13547



21:29:04  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 closed issue #13307: [Bug]: OpenTTD returns exit status 0 upon failing to read a savefile with the -q option https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13307



21:29:19  <peter1138> Hmm, no idea if it's possible to test if it's safe to skip stuff.



21:39:55  <peter1138> SkipIfs that nest? :o



21:41:29  <peter1138> Ok, can't be during LabelScan as we need that to know where a SkipIf goto ends up.



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21:50:25  <peter1138> You can have a skip that skips a skip, right?



21:50:45  <peter1138> Hmm.



21:52:07  <peter1138> Probably best to just ignore this potential issue.



21:52:09  <Rubidium> yeah, at least orig_extra.nfo seems to be doing that



21:52:23  <peter1138> Let the players pick up any pieces.



21:58:47  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Moth-Tolias opened pull request #14504: Add: Identify cities on the main viewport by appending "(City)" to their names https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14504



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22:54:09  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #14493: Change: separate ships travelling in opposite direction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14493#pullrequestreview-3099004178



22:56:38  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #14503: Change: Reduce visual height of default rail waypoints. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14503#pullrequestreview-3099007116



22:59:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris approved pull request #14503: Change: Reduce visual height of default rail waypoints. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14503#pullrequestreview-3099010104



23:17:29  <peter1138> Hmm, my SSH connection froze. Silly computers.