IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2025-06-29
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04:45:49 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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11:53:12 * pickpacket is looking at string code
11:53:59 <pickpacket> I wanna fix that string whitespace issue I've seen where "T" and "T " are considered different strings for company naming purposes
11:54:09 <pickpacket> despite looking identical in the UI
11:57:05 <pickpacket> oh no... the goto code...
11:58:58 <pickpacket> can several companies have the same president name?
12:01:46 <pickpacket> nvm. I'll get to that when I get to it
12:05:58 <peter1138[d]> pickpacket: Simplest way is to just trim the string in the command
12:30:04 <pickpacket> I don't think the whole goto shenanigans should be too hard to fix either, actually. Will see what I can do
12:33:10 <peter1138[d]> Not using gotos makes that a bit more complex.
12:34:41 <pickpacket> not sure it does. I'll tinker with it, anyway.
12:35:26 <pickpacket> but string stripping first
13:16:13 <_glx_> most "goto" are to simplify reentrant loops
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13:51:53 <peter1138[d]> Hm. I wonder how / if I should / could make a font-change not be a separate font run.
14:21:23 <michi_cc> A font change has to be a separate run, otherwise the layouter could make invalid ligatures at the transition point.
14:22:10 <michi_cc> A some languages like e.g. arabic rely heavily on ligatures and context dependent glyphs.
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15:02:03 <peter1138[d]> Ugh, the different-fonts-have-different sizes issue though 😦
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15:28:35 <peter1138[d]> 30 is ... somewhat more than 20. :/
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15:36:17 <pickpacket> peter1138[d]: just a smidge more
15:36:39 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, I wonder if that's partly the size-adjustment thing.
15:40:54 <peter1138[d]> Apart from the slightly iffy alignment (due to the size difference) the actual glyph isn't actually any bigger.
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15:46:57 <andythenorth> wonder why autoreplace fails reasonably often for RVs
15:47:07 <andythenorth> seems they don't pathfind to a depot, afaict
15:47:40 <andythenorth> do RVs need a depot in their orders still?
15:48:44 <andythenorth> hmm no it's a bug in HEQS
15:48:57 <peter1138[d]> Alright, I guess I need to align by the red baseline.
15:49:50 <peter1138[d]> So font size is max(ascender) + max(descender)
15:49:57 <peter1138[d]> Rather than max(ascender + descender)
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16:41:07 <peter1138[d]> So that aligns different fonts better, at the expense of aligning things oddly in the cell.
16:50:10 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, I wonder if vertical alignment can be set according to the sprite font.
17:35:59 <jfkuayue> I can’t use ChillRoundF, it says “missing glyphs”
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17:37:06 <su1phur> Can anyone give me a shout on why the running cost is half of what it is measured (manually), whereas the purchase cost is correct?
17:37:06 <su1phur> Or ideally the formula the game uses to calculate purchase/running costs, if possible
17:39:38 <jfkuayue> IIRC the running cost is 14000 (British pounds) * factor / 256, if running cost setting is set to normal
17:43:36 <jfkuayue> Oh you may consider “shifting” the running cost basis by the factor of 2 at the starting (header) of the nml file
17:49:40 <jfkuayue> If a NewGRF defines an engine (a steam one, for example), and the base PR_RUNNING_TRAIN_STEAM is explicitly set, then the running costs of all steam engines in this NewGRF will be multiplied by 2^{the number you have set}
17:54:23 <peter1138[d]> Ah, hmm, the suitable baseline for the srite font differs from the scalable font.
17:57:06 <peter1138[d]> Although... it's still annoying that the font height / line height changes when the CJK pops in.
18:27:27 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, probably "illegal"
18:29:54 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, interesting.
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18:30:55 <peter1138[d]> This is 1) using the new alignment code, 2) ignoring the font height and using the default.
18:32:18 <peter1138[d]> Because everything is aligned to the base line, this "fixes" that ancient "bug" that most truetype fonts have different alignment to what OpenTTD expects.
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18:34:13 <peter1138[d]> That is probably too cramped.
18:35:41 <michi_cc> For most fonts I personally like something like a 1.1 - 1.2 factor for line height (like e.g. when doing a good looking Word or something).
18:48:59 <peter1138[d]> Yeah, but the traditional OpenTTD interface does not do that.
19:30:31 <locosage> unless I missed something that kinda involves learning how to set up actions
20:38:50 <pickpacket> andythenorth: NOW????
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20:49:17 <truebrain> If he wants lunch now, why not?!
20:49:32 <truebrain> We don't judge .. well, maybe a little 😛
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20:51:24 <michi_cc> There's always lunch time somewhere 😛
20:54:13 <pickpacket> ugh... it's Monbday tomorrow
21:00:40 <andythenorth> I had ginger biscuits
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21:45:35 <pickpacket> Oh! I have VSCode on my work computer. Can I cross compile with that?
21:46:41 <peter1138[d]> VS Code is not a compiler.
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21:51:17 <pickpacket> meh. I'll see about getting a VM somewhere for a few hours
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22:56:37 <_glx_> locosage: all openttd forks should have the "Release" workflow in "Actions" tab, it can be triggered manually with "Run workflow" button and you'll get many artifacts
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